ADHD & RELATIONSHIPS: Learning to love through sensitivity, forgetfulness, and miscommunication

Summary

In this episode of the Late Bloomers podcast, the hosts delve into the intricacies of managing relationships with ADHD. Through personal anecdotes about past chaotic relationship experiences, they highlight how ADHD affects communication, emotional responses, and daily interactions. Key challenges such as miscommunication and executive dysfunction are discussed, along with coping mechanisms for dealing with hypersensitivity and maintaining a harmonious relationship. The conversation rounds off with an emphasis on empathy, creativity, and humor as the redeeming aspects of ADHD in a partnership, underscored by the importance of curiosity over judgment in resolving conflicts.

Highlights

• Navigating a chaotic relationship past due to ADHD's influence on communication. 💬
• Struggles with memory and routine highlighted by amusing anecdotes. 😂
• Sensitivity and emotional intensity presented as a double-edged sword. ⚔️
• Finding humor and creativity as key strengths in ADHD partnerships. 🎭
• The importance of leading with curiosity to foster understanding in relationships. 🕵️‍♂️

Key Takeaways

• Leaning into curiosity rather than judgment can significantly aid communication in ADHD relationships. 🤔
• Empathy and sensitivity, when embraced, can deepen connections in relationships. ❤️
• Creativity is a superpower often found in those with ADHD, leading to innovative ideas and solutions. 🎨
• Open discussions about ADHD challenges can foster understanding and partnership strength. 🗣️
• Finding a balance between personal needs and ADHD traits requires patience and teamwork. 🤝

Overview

In this engaging episode of the Late Bloomers podcast, the dynamics of handling relationships with ADHD are unpacked with humor and honesty. The hosts recount their rollercoaster ride through relationships past, unearthing how untreated ADHD can complicate communication and intimacy. Through endearing stories and playful banter, they highlight the trials of dealing with forgetfulness and emotional ups and downs.

Communication emerges as a central theme—demonstrating how misinterpretations and assumptions can lead to relationship strife when ADHD is in the mix. The hosts explore how their journey toward better understanding involved learning to balance differences in needs and habits, all while injecting a healthy dose of humor and curiosity into daily life. They also share tips on how to maneuver through common pitfalls like executive dysfunction and hypersensitivity.

While the challenges are numerous, the silver linings are celebrated with equal enthusiasm. The podcast underscores how ADHD can enhance creativity, empathy, and humor in relationships, driving home the importance of being each other's support system. With playful exchanges and heartfelt insights, this episode showcases the transformative power of understanding, patience, and shared laughter in nurturing a loving partnership despite—or perhaps because of—ADHD.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 03:00: Introduction to ADHD & Personal Experiences The chapter introduces the topic of ADHD and its impact on personal relationships. It focuses on the host's chaotic relationship history and discusses challenges such as communication difficulties, forgetfulness, and Rejection Sensitive Dysphoria (RSD) associated with dating someone with ADHD. There is also a mention of possibly covering the strengths of ADHD in relationships if time permits.
• 03:00 - 06:00: Chaotic Relationships and Patterns The chapter titled 'Chaotic Relationships and Patterns' explores the author's tumultuous past relationships influenced by ADHD. The narrator describes how the lack of awareness about their ADHD led to intense feelings, hyperfocus on partners, and subsequent communication struggles. These challenges often resulted in frustration from partners and negative reactions from the narrator, frequently leading to breakups.
• 06:00 - 10:00: Communication Challenges in Relationships The chapter explores the topic of communication challenges within relationships, specifically focusing on personal experiences. The speaker discusses their own struggle with undiagnosed ADHD and how it impacted their relationships. Before understanding their condition, they often felt something was wrong with them, particularly when they fell in love. This lack of diagnosis and understanding made navigating relationships difficult, as they couldn't explain their behavior to partners, often leading to misunderstandings. The realization and labeling of ADHD brought clarity to the speaker, allowing them to better comprehend their actions and improve their interpersonal relationships.
• 10:00 - 16:00: Struggles of Forgetfulness and Messiness The chapter delves into the recurring struggles faced by the narrator due to forgetfulness and a lack of cleanliness. They describe a pattern in their relationships, where initially everything seems perfect, leading to quick decisions like moving in together. However, soon afterward, their personal issues, such as maintaining a clean living space and financial troubles, become apparent and cause significant strain. These problems are initially hidden out of shame, but inevitably surface, causing communication breakdowns and leading to friction in the relationship. The narrator reflects on how these unresolved issues perpetually turn promising relationships into unpleasant experiences.
• 16:00 - 23:00: Sensitivity and Emotional Intensity The chapter delves into the speaker's past experiences in relationships, emphasizing themes of sensitivity and emotional intensity. The speaker reflects on feelings of judgment and lack of love leading to breakdowns in relationships. They mention a history of infidelity and chaotic breakups, spanning from ages 16 to 33. There is an underlying hint of intimacy and understanding developing with the current counterpart, suggesting growth and change from past patterns.
• 23:00 - 31:00: Managing Anger and Personal Growth The chapter discusses themes of infidelity and its impact on relationships. The speaker reflects on the cycle of falling in love with new people frequently, acknowledging the emotional turmoil it may cause, especially for the other person involved. Despite knowing the speaker's intentions were not malicious, there's an exploration of how these patterns may relate to personal growth and managing one's emotions, particularly anger.
• 31:00 - 42:00: Positive Aspects of ADHD in Relationships This chapter discusses how ADHD can affect relationships, particularly focusing on the challenges of emotional awareness and judgment. It explores the tendency for individuals with ADHD to seek new dopamine sources by fantasizing about new people when feeling judged and unloved in a current relationship. The lack of maturity and emotional awareness can lead to leaving relationships prematurely.
• 42:00 - 46:00: Conclusion and Relationship Insights The chapter discusses the author's repeated experiences in relationships, highlighting a recurring pattern where initial optimism about a new partner eventually leads to disappointment. The author observes friends progressing in their personal lives with long-term commitments, marriages, and children, contrasting this with their own seemingly stagnant personal relationship experiences. This reflection leads to insights about recognizing and breaking unhealthy relationship cycles.

ADHD & RELATIONSHIPS: Learning to love through sensitivity, forgetfulness, and miscommunication Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 today we are talking about ADHD and relationships I'm going to go over my very chaotic relationship history and I'm going to talk about the struggles of dating an ADHD like communication they forget everything and RSD we might also do some of the strengths and good bits depends whether we got time or not welcome to the late bloomers podcast where we are getting our lives together eventually so it's my relationship history yeah this could take a while that's why I thought we might run out of time um so let's start
• 00:30 - 01:00 I suppose you've talked about your chaotic past of relationships how has ADHD played out in that well the biggest thing is I didn't know I had ADHD yeah so ADHD was affecting me in so many ways from the intensity and hyperfocus of someone and falling in love then the struggles with communication for getting things having them be frustrated at me me reacting very badly to that um and then very often and breaking up and
• 01:00 - 01:30 moving on so I actually don't know how I even managed to get to a year with some people without knowing that I've got this massive huge chunk of ADHD coming with me what did you think it was then like cuz that must have been quite tough right so now you can label it and you can understand this is what happens chemically in my body and my brain but like did you I thought there was something wrong with me right because I would fall in love with someone
• 01:30 - 02:00 be convinced they were the one this was it move in move really quick then the problems would start I'd try and cover up the problems because I was so ashamed of my how dirty the place was where I lived my clothes my money problems I try and hide it but as a relationship goes on people become aware and it would bring up all kinds of friction communication problems um and then it would start to become not a very nice
• 02:00 - 02:30 place to be I'd feel very judged they probably wouldn't feel very loved and then the relationship would break down in a lot of my past relationships cheating was involved on both sides or just chaotic breakups like honestly from 16 to 33 it was kind of a horrible experience and like knowing you as I do now which is quite which is quite well I think quite intimately
• 02:30 - 03:00 you you you mentioned cheating um and there being an overlap with with relationships now I know you well enough to know that I don't think there would have been any malice there but like did you think that you were falling in love with someone new every year like that must have been that must have been a trip like that must have been horrible well probably more horrible the other person yeah um
• 03:00 - 03:30 yeah I think the relationship would stop feeling good and stop feeling happy I'd feel judged and unloved and then I would or my brain would find a a new focus a new person of interest and the way it hits with ADHD is that that's your dopamine Source fantasizing about somebody else and I didn't have the maturity and the emotional awareness to know that that isn't real so I would leave
• 03:30 - 04:00 with the view that this new person is the answer yeah and I'm going to be happy now this time it's going to work and then it never ever did the same pattern played out again and again and again and I watched friends of mine from uni go into long-term relationships get married start having kids while I was just Groundhog Day repeating the same year over and over and over again well like I don't want to sound judgmental
• 04:00 - 04:30 and and if it comes across that way I apologize but you'll know what I mean um so if it was me going through that after like maybe the fifth time of my body going I'm fall in love this person's the one I'd probably have the ability to go actually there's a bit of a pattern emerg in here like maybe this isn't the love of my life but but but but but you I know that you wouldn't be
• 04:30 - 05:00 able to do that and like even if you don't think about it like in the context of relationships a new hobby or whatever you'll think it's your life purpose every time and you won't learn from previous ADHD pattern recognition is amazing unless it's your own life yeah so I can go back to when I was a kid and we had glass back door or glass French doors going out into our garden and when I was really young I kept running into it
• 05:00 - 05:30 yeah yeah that doesn't surprise me see yeah and then my parents painted this little stained glass thing and and put it on so I'd see that still ran into it I never learned i' would run head first I would hurt myself I kept doing it because memory issues right you don't remember you can get hurt and you can forget so that same pattern just plays out you're right with the Hobbies the same thing happens with overspending the same thing happens I just don't learn
• 05:30 - 06:00 even even like you I remember in our last house right you walked into the kitchen and there was two light switches the one on the left on the kitchen the one on the on the right on the living room and we lived there for 4 years and you would still not know which one did What Would you like that's the perfect example you did that twice a day for four years yeah I did so yeah okay interesting so I really really struggled with relationships for so many years and
• 06:00 - 06:30 then I put myself on the bench and when I got sober in 2018 I also went celibate yeah and I did celibate for a year and a half yeah wow until I met you yeah sorry the celibacy Destroyer wow and then with you it's been really really different I was in therapy I was sober those things are game changers and in the early days of our relationship I found found out
• 06:30 - 07:00 that I had ADHD I think you are the perfect person to kind of speak to about what it's really like and what some of the struggles are so be brutal I want you to be honest what do you think the three biggest struggles are dating somebody with ADHD oh man this this is brutal right like so let me just start off by saying I love you I'm very happy in our relationship okay and actually this will
• 07:00 - 07:30 speak to the numerous comments we get on the internet about like me and going oh why does he up with that like blah blah blah blah blah just nonsense so we'll get into the real stuff which isn't that important but it is also real um communication is is tough sometimes um and that can be a multitude of different things so your mind goes
• 07:30 - 08:00 really quickly like you can actually when you're thinking about something you can see that you're having some sort of conversation in your head and you don't always verbalize it um and conversations can sort of go off on tangent so so having and the way my brain works and we know why that might be I I like quite like strategic not strategic like methodical broken down
• 08:00 - 08:30 chronological so I think we communicate I'm oppos yeah yeah communication I can definitely see that it's a struggle I think we've got way better at communicating yeah but in the beginning I think I would very often think you were angry at me or I'd take something really personally or if I messed up and forgot something I'd go into a shame spiral rather than being honest I honestly think masking is such
• 08:30 - 09:00 a big part of that as an ADHD you get so used to Faking It pretending you're okay kind of swimming above the surface but underneath everything's falling apart you don't want anyone to see that because you think it makes you an awful human and unlovable so you're essentially not being real and authentic so how can you have good communication when you're lying all the time yeah about these things you're trying to conceal so I fully
• 09:00 - 09:30 cosign a struggle of dating an ADHD is communication there's one bit as well about communication which I forgot to mention which I'm like I I smile at now it's not it's not a struggle now that's probably why I didn't mention it but it certainly was a struggle at first which was um the communication when we were apart so I just now need to sort of accept and smile that it doesn't exist if you if you're staying in a hotel doing what ever that recent one
• 09:30 - 10:00 was going and signing and doing the meet and greets sign When You released your album um you're away for a few days I heard from you maybe just before bed and that at the start of the relationship was quite difficult thing to be like wow am I like am I dead to her like now now she's she's gone for a day but now I I quite enjoy the piece actually there you go at the beginning it's tough I think it's very very much in the beginning of a relationship it's
• 10:00 - 10:30 a hyperfocus we're obsessed we're texting all the time then that wears off and the Fall From Grace is pretty high with an ADHD and unfortunately it kind of is out of sight out of mind I'm so busy trying to go the right way get my stuff together not get run over by a car be there on time I don't have the mental capacity to just I'm going to check in I'm going to check in however I hope you know I'll always ring you or drop a text at night I can't sleep when you're not
• 10:30 - 11:00 there the love is always there it doesn't bother me now that's probably why I didn't mention it it just it just I suppose it just takes some getting used to okay so and it's quite nice now yeah so what's number two struggle right um so you forget everything and I'm going to be kind and call it executive dysfunction because that's what it is but I think you know my my feelings are very real and very valid as well and what I like is a really clean and tidy an organized house and what I get with
• 11:00 - 11:30 you is not that even like even little things like when you when you come home from being a away or you get ready for a a photo shoot or video shoot or whatever like just a Carnage that's left and then it's left MH um and it's like sometimes I feel and this is my thing right so sometimes I feel a weight of like like well I've got to sort that out otherwise
• 11:30 - 12:00 it won't get done but actually what I've been doing better at is just verbalizing this is important to me I know you find it tough how can we find a way of getting this tidy together um but yeah that's that's probably number two thing is we haven't figured it out because I feel like I'll have moments when I get loads better like you'll verbalize all your stuff all over the kitchen is stressing me out I'll be like oh my God I'm so sorry I'll go and TI it
• 12:00 - 12:30 up but then it's Groundhog Day the next time the same thing happens so I imagine it's so frustrating having to constantly choose kindness and communication rather than me just remembering but if we go back to me running in to the glass doors as a kid it's the same thing I run into the same situation over and over and I could be hitting my own head or upsetting the person I love it doesn't go in as a
• 12:30 - 13:00 habit I don't learn yeah and I think we've had to realize that it isn't going to I'm not going to get it I'm not going to start remembering I'm not going to suddenly be really clean every day so we have to find this weird wonky Middle Ground where you probably have to ask more than a person should have to and is necessary and I have to remind myself and push myself through more than what a neurotypical person might yeah well there a couple of things um one
• 13:00 - 13:30 obviously I need to ask but two which I'm very grateful for cuz your natural reaction would be like to feel a little bit when I say it's a bit messy here I really need would like it to be tidy you can feel like quite judged and attacked and stuff like you can get quite like defensive naturally like so you do well to sort of curve that I would say the difference is in how you ask me in recent years versus what it was like at
• 13:30 - 14:00 the beginning and I think this is such a big tip for kind of ADHD non-adhd relationships is the tone that you ask will totally determine the results that you get so if you go in to someone's room and it's messy again it's really frustrating you're having a bad time and you're just like oh for God's sake can you please just tidy that I've just ask you to do it you are going to get
• 14:00 - 14:30 someone upset or angry or frustrated or defensive and it's not going to fix the problem if you go in and really stay calm and take personal ownership so it's not you're messing up your awful which we're really used to hearing as ADHD is it's ah this is upset I know you struggle with it this is upsetting me a bit what can we do I'm going to jump up and and get that and get that sorted so
• 14:30 - 15:00 I think you've really learned that kindness and calmness gets you way more of what you want um than frustration and that's just time and practice isn't it yeah and it is worth probably saying that the people that are listening or watching that's not that easy to do like if you know for for anyone whether the ADHD person or the or the non if your natural reaction your natural human human reaction is to
• 15:00 - 15:30 be pissed off about something because you've said it a million times it's sometimes difficult like it doesn't come naturally to be like babe this is upsetting me like it doesn't like it takes work so like for people struggling with it like keep at it keep practicing keep at it and like sometimes you're having a bad day I'm having a bad day and we'll piss each other off and that's okay you just get back on the old communication horse yeah oh well go into different rooms for a while watch a bit of Telly and then reconvene the other
• 15:30 - 16:00 thing we do for this though is um we do try and create systems so my latest attempt stroke theory is to give you one room in the house where everything can be dumped in chaos room yeah to to to protect the rest of the room we'll see what happens they're like I I feel all right about it at the moment what I invis happening though is
• 16:00 - 16:30 the chaos room and this might be unfair but the chaos room becoming so like unmanageable that it will just never get used what's funny though is you're like you have a chaos chaos room to protect the rest of the house and we're dumping stuff in there at the moment yeah and cardboard boxes and I don't mind I'm so used to living in an absolute Pig's D cuz I have my whole life yeah it's really different in this house cuz I got you but I'm so used to to it i' I'm not able to have a clean
• 16:30 - 17:00 space so I have to detach from it so the room gets Messier and Messier I'm okay but you're go in and go I'm so sorry that we're dumping stuff in here you end up feeling sorry for me because you're sweet um right on to number three worst thing about dating an ADHD um so I'm going to say the emotional intensity what do you mean oh my God you love me yeah and RSD so that's
• 17:00 - 17:30 probably the kind way to do it what you you and other people of ADHD would be used to hearing is that you're overly sensitive that would probably be the the shaming like criticism but that is very real like not that you're overly sensitive just that oh well I am I don't like overly yeah but I am really sensitive to life and I think I think um it's Dr Gabor mate in
• 17:30 - 18:00 his ADHD book that can be quite divisive but one of the things I love about his research and what he says is that ADHD essentially it's sensitivity it is really really really sensitive people yeah and actually some of the negative consequences are when those sensitivities aren't seen or supported so we are all a sensitive bunch and I
• 18:00 - 18:30 think that can be a beautiful thing I think feeling other people's emotions kindness crying art creativity that all draws from sensitivity however when your partner is breaking down in tears all the time needing cuddles I mean I cry loads don't I yeah but that's not I don't think that's what makes it a challenge what could potentially make it challenging is um you can maybe
• 18:30 - 19:00 react really strongly to something that the way that and not no one's wrong no one's right but the way that I will look at it is like I'm just being a little bit human here like I there will be a slight negative reaction or or I'll say something that is sort of semidirect and you'll react well I can often feel like I'm being attached yeah or you're really angry at me
• 19:00 - 19:30 there's obviously a lot of history that's being bought up in those moments um however it's definitely something that we've had to figure out together and one of the most beautiful things about our relationship is I allow my sensitivity into the mix so historically I was known as someone with friends and partners that didn't cry was unsensitive again you have to mask the most vulnerable parts of you the parts that have been really hurt I've never been
• 19:30 - 20:00 safe enough to be really sensitive but with you I will get really upset let's say when my album came out I really was struggling with missing my mom like yeah ah big time really struggling with the estrangement from my dad I was tired I was working really hard so I was crying a lot and historically years and years ago I would have either drunk that away or gone and cried on my own in the bathroom but with you I'll just come and
• 20:00 - 20:30 be like I'm sad I missed my mom I need to C that is exactly what happened as well like this it's not funny well it is when you look back at it but I was like putting wardrobes together and all of a sudden you just like toddled up to the door and I was like you all right babe and he just went no I'm sad and started crying like it was it was adorable but also like quite if there was a camera it's just quite funny yeah I mean it's like a a child but I I've had to learn
• 20:30 - 21:00 to be safe and to allow my sensitivity in with us and you always even though you've put it as one of the struggles you're so kind and considerate I think you understand that it's for me like very sacred thing that I've I've kept away so wait there's one more thing about sensitivity um and I'm just curious now so so that's all really true around how your ADHD plays out there's one thing though and my question is is
• 21:00 - 21:30 this to do with your ADHD or is this just to do with you there's one emotion that you just can't handle from me like you just can't it doesn't matter what if I'm upset sensitive whatever you can fine go on anger yeah you can't handle it and and that's not anger at you if I'm even if I'm angry broadly or at someone else or someone cuts me up that's it you're in you like switch Yeah you can't handle it what's going on there so I don't know
• 21:30 - 22:00 whether it's to do with ADHD or whether it's just me I'm going to talk about it in Broad terms and if people relate they relate so I grew up with a really angry dad there was shouting rage things were thrown um I was smacked he was a very angry dude I think a lot of older parents were so kind of deep in my bones anger is really really scary and someone
• 22:00 - 22:30 being angry around me or at me means that I'm no longer safe mhm I never saw someone be angry and still make it known that I was safe and loved yeah if that person is angry they are going to say the most devastating thing reject you cut you off hit you yeah and that's still deep down in my Bon so when you're angry I feel so
• 22:30 - 23:00 unsafe in my body that I have to try and stop you from being angry and that's not healthy because anger is such a vital part of Human Experience like I am in therapy trying my hardest to be more angry because not only am I afraid of your anger I'm afraid of my own and that has had me walked over abused taken advantage of but I'm getting there I'm speaking up a bit more I'm all ing anger into my personality because we need it
• 23:00 - 23:30 so I'm really sorry that I try and sanitize that no you don't need to be sorry it's just it's just interesting and actually something that's literally just popped into my mind is historically in our relationship you've been reluctant to share things with me out of fear that I would get angry and and some of these topics I wouldn't be angry at in a million years but that just fear of me being angry about it which by the way for everyone listening I've literally never been angry at you like not never
• 23:30 - 24:00 shouted shouted you've never been aggressive but that's just the power of History isn't it okay so now we've done the three Dreadful things about being with an ADHD could you just give me a few good things so we can bring it to a lovely high note we haven't got time sorry now I'm joking so first one empathy so the ying and yang of the Sensitivity I would say um you know how people are like when you
• 24:00 - 24:30 walk into a room you can feel my emotions and you're very you're very sensitive to my emotions as well as your own so I will feel very like listen to and validate if I'm going through something challenging do you want me to just go straight on just list the three of them no I love that one and it's just so nice hearing it it's so nice hearing it as a strength when I felt so ashamed of sensitivity like
• 24:30 - 25:00 hearing that it helps you in moments when you need it um I also think it helps the kids I think I've been really like connected in a way to both kidy emotional experience and that's cool I think so many adhders are sensitive and that actually empathy within their family units can make them they might not be the best at the old laundry but being the emotional Lynch pin that keeps everyone together we're kind of rocking that are y number two creativity so you
• 25:00 - 25:30 know not only am I fortunate enough to have you as a life partner I'm also fortunate enough to have you as a business partner um and everything that we do would have stemmed from your chaotic brain like it wouldn't it wouldn't exist without you like it wouldn't exist without me as well so you don't need to say that I know that it would have been a couple of videos and then a dormant Instagram account so I know that I I'm the one that sort of executes the vision but you're the one
• 25:30 - 26:00 that creates all of the vision Bar None really what are you laughing at it's just so weird hearing so it's it's making me like emotional hearing good qualities about myself when historically I'm so used to seeing where I'm falling short and yeah thank you that means a lot and yeah it would have been not executed I would have got bored
• 26:00 - 26:30 I would have done two podcast episodes I would have done five videos and stopped so it's teamwork I need you but in this moment of looking at the positives this logo existed in my head before it existed in reality dubby was an idea on a random Sunday afternoon ADHD love first video was an idea at 11:30 p.m. in bed a few years ago so those random chaotic creative ideas that are
• 26:30 - 27:00 constantly in our brains can actually lead to awesome things so is what makes it work though right so this set behind us this this set of late bloomers you convinced me to build this you saw it visually it's all you but the fact that you got me to build it means we're doing it for a year so everyone listening there will be at least a year worth of podcast hopefully more hopefully more any other positives um
• 27:00 - 27:30 humor shared humor I don't know whether it's the V ADHD or it's just you as a person but I think it's probably a traumatic childhood leads to a sense of humor as an unhealthy coping mechanism and then it ends up being a pleasant bonus love that in life um I really appreciate that it's so lovely to end on the positives I think the key takeaway that I take from you and how we've
• 27:30 - 28:00 managed to actually have this like awesome really happy relationship despite me being forgetful and over sensitive and not always communicating very well is the kindness that you bring and you always say it and I just think it's the most awesome thing which is to lead with curiosity not judgment so it isn't like why you not texting back what's wrong why are the clothes there
• 28:00 - 28:30 this is so frustrating why are you upset all the time it's you're upset what's going on the clothes are there is is this tough is something happening to you you always ask questions you're curious and you open up this safe space for me to say I'm struggling so and I like couldn't lead this really happy life without you doing that so thank you well you have to be curious because a lot of what you do doesn't make sense in my mind so you you've got two choices you
• 28:30 - 29:00 can either judge that behavior and that's assuming that I know everything I know all the right answers and you don't or be curious and most of the time when I'm curious when you answer it we're able to think of solutions together because you're creative as well so curiosity did not kill the ADHD sure that um this has been the late bloomers podcast thank you so much for listening thank you if you've liked it go and
• 29:00 - 29:30 leave us a review if you didn't just don't bother move on I'll start crying because I'm over sensitive just kidding see you next week