Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries

Summary

In this episode of the Joe Rogan Experience, Joe sits down with Dr. Suzanne Humphries, a nephrologist, to discuss her critical views on vaccinations and the pharmaceutical industry. They dive into historical and modern narratives surrounding vaccines, highlighting concerns about their safety, efficacy, and the influence of big pharma. Dr. Humphries discusses her book "Dissolving Illusions" and how it challenges the mainstream vaccine narratives, focusing on historical data and medical literature to question the long-held beliefs about vaccines. The episode also touches on natural remedies and the importance of holistic health approaches.

Highlights

• Dr. Humphries discusses her book "Dissolving Illusions", which critiques mainstream vaccine narratives. 📚
• The conversation explores historical data questioning the effectiveness of some vaccines. 📊
• Joe and Dr. Humphries talk about the financial motivators in the pharmaceutical industry. 💸
• There's an emphasis on natural health remedies and their underrated efficacy. 🌿
• Challenges faced by those who question the vaccine status quo are highlighted. 🚧

Key Takeaways

• Keep a 360-degree view and avoid dogma when discussing complex topics like vaccines. 🌐
• Natural remedies like garlic and cinnamon hold more promise than often acknowledged. 🍃
• Historical vaccine narratives may be more complex than commonly believed. 📖
• The influence of big pharma on medical practices raises important ethical questions. 💊
• Encouraging open dialogue about health can lead to greater understanding. 🗣️

Overview

Joe Rogan and Dr. Suzanne Humphries have a deep dive into the world of vaccines, scrutinizing the narratives that have shaped public perception for decades. Dr. Humphries brings her expertise and critique to the table, questioning the blanket acceptance of vaccines and highlighting natural remedies that have been left in the shadows.

The episode sheds light on the complexities surrounding vaccine history, exploring instances where pharmaceutical motivations may have guided public health policies. Dr. Humphries's book, "Dissolving Illusions", serves as a pivotal discussion point, where she dismantles many traditional beliefs about vaccine success stories.

Amidst the critique, there's a strong call for holistic health practices and a return to nature's simpler solutions. The dialogue engaged listeners in thinking critically about the interplay between pharmaceuticals and health, advocating for a broader perspective that encompasses both science and nature.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 50:00: Podcast Introduction and Vaccine Discussion The chapter introduces the Joe Rogan podcast and sets the stage for a discussion on vaccines.
• 50:00 - 110:00: Vaccine Legal Immunity and Historical Vaccine Context In the chapter titled 'Vaccine Legal Immunity and Historical Vaccine Context,' the discussion starts with a note on how indoctrination can be purposeful and financially beneficial for certain entities. The book being referred to, titled 'Dissolving Illusions,' is highlighted as a source that sheds light on the beneficial practices and knowledge often dismissed or misrepresented as nonsense. An example of this is the undervaluation of something as simple as cinnamon, which serves as a metaphor for other overlooked truths.
• 110:00 - 198:00: Polio and Smallpox Historical Context The chapter discusses the historical context of polio and smallpox, with specific focus on old remedies like cinnamon. Cinnamon, known for its potential benefits for glucose handling, especially in diabetics, is highlighted. The text reflects on past medicinal practices, noting that many remedies were effective likely due to their vitamin C content, which was often dismissed as nonsense in the past.
• 198:00 - 290:00: Breastfeeding and Nutrition Discussion In this chapter titled 'Breastfeeding and Nutrition Discussion,' the conversation revolves around the skepticism often associated with natural remedies, such as garlic and echinacea. Initially dismissed as 'hippie nonsense,' the discussion reveals that natural substances like garlic have proven effective in treating conditions like staph infections, without developing drug resistance. The chapter underscores a growing appreciation for natural remedies, suggesting that 'the hippies seem to have got it right' in terms of health and nutrition.
• 290:00 - 385:00: Censorship and Vaccine Skepticism The chapter "Censorship and Vaccine Skepticism" discusses the importance of natural remedies alongside conventional medical treatments. It critiques the common appeal to authority in healthcare where people rely solely on doctors' recommendations, pointing out that doctors should also consider and recommend beneficial natural supplements like vitamin D and vitamin A. The conversation touches upon vaccine skepticism, specifically referencing the measles vaccine, and emphasizes the necessity of a balanced approach to health that includes both conventional and natural remedies.
• 385:00 - 475:00: Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturing Processes The chapter "Vaccine Ingredients and Manufacturing Processes" discusses the impact of measles infection and vaccination on vitamin A levels in the body. It highlights that both natural infection and the measles vaccine can deplete vitamin A. The author advises taking vitamin A supplements when vaccinated and notes that this information is often not communicated to the public. Additionally, it mentions that taking Tylenol after vaccination can interfere with the vaccine's effectiveness and cause immunological disturbances when the body should be boosting its immune response.
• 475:00 - 585:00: Personal Experiences and Medical Practice The chapter titled 'Personal Experiences and Medical Practice' explores the public perception of standardized drugs and remedies within the conventional medical system. It highlights the belief that these medical solutions, including vaccines, are uniformly regulated. However, when individuals examine these medical practices, they often find discrepancies between perceived standardization and actual regulatory guidelines. The discussion raises questions about the trust placed in authorities like 'the white coats' and how this impacts the public's perception of medical practices and treatments.
• 585:00 - 599:00: Conclusion and Book Promotion The chapter discusses the variability in results received by people due to a lack of standardization. The conversation touches on the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act of 1986, suggesting that the immunity from legal consequences granted by the act may have spurred an increase in creative practices by the entities involved.
• 599:00 - 605:00: Podcast Outro and Sponsors The chapter titled 'Podcast Outro and Sponsors' discusses a historical overview of the swine flu vaccine issues of 1976, where numerous injuries led vaccine producers to struggle with obtaining insurance. This prompted producers to seek indemnification from the government, which ultimately agreed, setting a precedent for further developments in 1986.

Joe Rogan Experience #2294 - Dr. Suzanne Humphries Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 joe Rogan podcast check it out the Joe Rogan Experience train by day joe Rogan podcast by night all day all right we're roll you just said something that's like very important you can't be dogmatic when you're talking about vaccines or about anything yes it is good to keep an open mind isn't it be flexible and look at a 360 degree view of things rather than your tunnel vision and what you're indoctrinated into isn't
• 00:30 - 01:00 it yeah and especially if you know that that indoctrination has been on purpose and profitable and you know one of the great things about your book is um first of all your book's called Dissolving Illusions i know I've talked about on the podcast a bunch of times but you um you also highlight a lot of things that we know are beneficial that somehow or another get lumped into nonsense like even cinnamon
• 01:00 - 01:30 yeah cinnamon is a is a powerful herb actually and it's known to be helpful in glucose handling for a lot of diabetics taking it in capsule form now I noticed um at the end of my nephrology career uh that a lot of my own patients were taking cinnamon capsules but it's also has a lot of vitamin C in it and I think that was probably one of the keys a lot of those old remedies that we wrote about the magic in them probably was the vitamin C in them i dismissed all that stuff as total nonsense i was like "Oh
• 01:30 - 02:00 that's hippie nonsense." Like echynatia like get out of here it's hippie nonsense garlic come on get out of here but then the more I've read things especially like garlic is incredible for staff infections for some reason it is and it doesn't be develop drug resistance like a lot of the drugs that are engineered for it um yeah the hippies seem to have got it right I think well it just that that whole idea of natural remedies is so just
• 02:00 - 02:30 universally dismissed by non-silly people you know when you say natural remedies that's great if you have a heart attack go to a doctor stupid you know that's generally people's appeal to authority right but it's the doctor should be recommending those things too like they're they're good too like vitamin D super important you know vitamin A super important and one of the things that you talked about in the book is that um I think this was really important when you were talking about the measles vaccine you were saying that
• 02:30 - 03:00 um either if you get an infection with measles just a natural infection or if you get the vaccine you're still going to get depleted of vitamin A like if you get vaccinated for the measles you should be taking vitamin A as well your body's going to get depleted just by getting that shot they don't tell you that no they don't tell you anything just Tylenol which actually makes the vaccine not work as well in addition to causing all kinds of immunological disturbances at the time that you're supposed to be upregulating your immune
• 03:00 - 03:30 system against this dreaded disease um yeah but one of the things about the the recommended by the you know the white coats and the authorities is is that they the public believes that so many drugs and remedies are standardized that the conventional medical system gives out and when you go to actually look at them and this includes vaccines even though they're standardized meaning that the manufacturers are told what the regulations should be in terms of production when people go and look at
• 03:30 - 04:00 them they find it's anything but standardized it's very variable which is why we see such variability in the um in the results when people re receive them that's only one reason why there's so much variability and do you think it's the immunity to any legal consequences that has allowed them to sort of operate like this well we certainly saw an explosion of their creativity since 1986 so 19 actually in 1986 you're you're referring to the National Child Vaccine Injury Act that
• 04:00 - 04:30 was passed in 1986 but before 1986 we had 1976 which was the swine flu vaccine fiasco and that was that was a situation where there was so much injury that the vaccine producing companies were no longer able to get insurance and so they went to the government and they said "We need you to indemnify us." And they did and so the government absorbed all the lawsuit cases that happened as a result of the gamb that happened from then and so that kind of set a precedent for 1986
• 04:30 - 05:00 so back then vaccines were just kind of you know pieces of microbe or maybe a live attenuated virus uh and then they would put a background of all kinds of horrid things inside of it and tell you it was just a clear beautiful pure solution but that's beside the point so uh then 1986 comes along and because there's so many lawsuits happening because of the diptheria ptasus tetanus vaccine that again the vaccine companies couldn't continue to go on the way they were because they were being sued so much so then this this horrible act was passed which to some people seemed like
• 05:00 - 05:30 a good idea and this is always how it goes is we're going to make you this promise yes yes yes we're going to we're going to cover all the lawsuits now out of taxes but it's going to be okay because we're going to we're going to pay out these lawsuits and you're going to be fine if you if your kid takes one for the team you're going to be okay and what happens is after time after they get their foot in the door they narrow down the um they they basically have a kangaroo court that decides if you're eligible and so the qualification tables got narrowed down because in the beginning they were paying out so much of this so not only did it make the
• 05:30 - 06:00 vaccine companies very very wealthy and indemnified but as you alluded to just a minute ago um the creativity of the vaccine companies expanded so after that they could add different what we call adgivants things that stimulate the immune system so the vaccine works better uh then they start that's why we're able to be in a messenger RNA vaccine situation today which which that wouldn't have happened if it weren't for the indemnification that you know the vaccine trials have always been a bit of a joke but they're even more of a joke
• 06:00 - 06:30 today than they were in the beginning you've never seen a vaccinated unvaccinated um study that's that is accepted by the powers that be as um you know good enough the the v the vaccinated unvaccin studies that they have they use another vaccine for you probably know that so if you're testing a measles vaccine you know you could test it against a dtheria vaccine or a flu shot vaccine is tested against a hepatitis A vaccine there's no saline placebo because the few studies that exist with saline placeos show how bad
• 06:30 - 07:00 the vaccine actually is and how it makes you not only not respond to the dis disease when it comes around but more susceptible to it in many cases have there been any instances where vaccines have been helpful the question of the century isn't it okay now we have to back up a minute because I had that same question and I had to go dig deep to all the questions you have in your head right now i had them too at one point so here I am a medical doctor working in the field
• 07:00 - 07:30 believing pretty much everything I was told giving hundreds if not thousands of vaccines out to my patients hepatitis B vaccines in particular flu shots for sure i was a nephrologist kidney specialist and dialysis etc and initially you know we all kind of have an aversion to needles i think it's a natural human aversion so when we're kids we don't no one's going "Oh I want to go get my vaccines." We're like you know okay fine sore arm you get over it most of us were lucky enough to get over it um so by the time the first
• 07:30 - 08:00 instance of a problem occurred in front of my eyes I was already a fully seasoned professor of medicine you know working in a in a tertiary care medical center okay and so it it's been a bit of a process because for me it was the influenza vaccines in 2008 2009 that showed me without a doubt that vaccines can and do cause kidney failure and put people on dialysis that that does happen it can cause hypertension so we're not
• 08:00 - 08:30 told to take a vaccine history in medical school we're not told to even look there it's not even part of especially in adults but when I did start looking there I I started to see more and more associations let's just put it that way and so first I had to go down the flu the flu vaccine bunny trail and every time I went down that flu vaccine bunny trail guess what I was asked what about polio right so I thought all right even though this has absolutely zero to do with polio because I'm watching people crap out in front of me after influenza vaccines let's see
• 08:30 - 09:00 about polio because I knew very little about polio just like most people walking around out there do that you know it was invented by this guy named Jonas Sulk and it saved humanity we don't see these little crippled kids anymore we don't have iron lungs anymore yay um well I would have to say that the polio bunny trail was the darkest one of all and uh so after polio then became smallox and I thought you know we still have people walking the earth that have experienced the polio years so I I kind
• 09:00 - 09:30 of like to stick to polio because most of the small pox you know people that would have been would have been familiar with it are off the planet but there's still some doctors around that'll talk about smallox a guy named Thomas Mack who's probably close to 90 who was kind of ground zero in the 1940s and knows a lot about it and still says we shouldn't be vaccinating for smallox today um so then there was that and then everyone in their dog was talking about autism and I didn't really want to have anything to do with autism because I was an adult doctor i think we should break down step by step like what about polio
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• 10:30 - 11:00 drinkagg1.com/joan that's drinkagg1.com/joan check it out because you said polio once once we've breached that because that's the big one yeah right this is the one that everybody points to we don't have [ __ ] kids what when you look at the historical timeline of of polio what do you think caused it to go to essentially not be a problem anymore okay you you don't think vaccinations had anything to do with
• 11:00 - 11:30 that well I also it's not what I think because that's the thing like look when I got into this I didn't say oh you know I want to argue that vaccines are great i said look I don't care i didn't have skin in the game i didn't have vaccine injured kids i couldn't have cared less about it essentially except that it was something in front of me and didn't make sense so I thought wherever the truth falls that's what I'm going to talk about so what I say is that I I what what what the facts line up to show you is that polio is still here polio is still alive and well polio is called
• 11:30 - 12:00 different things today whereas back in the 1940s 1950s the criteria for diagnosing polio were completely different to the year that the vaccine was introduced the the the playing field the goalpost everything was changed so that despite the fact that there was more paralytic polio in the years after that vaccine was introduced they were able to show a complete cascading drop of paralytic polio simply because of the way they they changed the definitions of what polio is and what could cause it and they started testing for the virus where
• 12:00 - 12:30 before they would never test for the virus and when they started testing for the virus later what they would find that people had greet syndrome they didn't have virus or they had cooxsaki virus or echo virus or they were lead poisoned or mercury poisoned which was the mercury and lead were the leading treatments of the day including blood letting telling people to put take your cigarette and put a little bit of arsenic in there it's good for your lungs yeah they were literally blowing smoke up people's butts like that that's where the term comes from because there
• 12:30 - 13:00 if you want to Google that now you'll see that there's an instrument that does so um yeah the polio story where to even begin and so there's about 70 pages and so that became my obsession so when people said what about polio and I started digging this up I went deep into it did you dive into pesticides yes yes you have to dive into pesticides because the tonnage of production of DDT absolutely mirrored the the diagn nosis for polio in the days and the countries
• 13:00 - 13:30 that still make DDT today is where we're still seeing this paralytic polio situation happen and also weren't the first cases didn't they break out in a rural community the first cases of polio yes in the United States paralytic polio yes it was out in the countryside well that was probably more because of the sheep and cow dipping so arsenic you'd have to look at arsenic you have to look at the mercurials you have to look at the calcium arsenate lead arsonate sprays that were put on trees but what you're talking about in particular they would call the cow disease They go out and and the family when you would go to
• 13:30 - 14:00 the house they'd say "All the kids have the cow disease what the cows had before." Well what were they doing they would have this trenches you talk to farmers even today oh yeah we had trenches we would just walk them straight through and I'd be soaked with the stuff by the end of the day oh my god yeah so they're basically soaking and bathing in arsenic which is great for killing fleas and ticks but it's not really great for keeping your nervous system happy because the fact of the matter is and this again I've got medical references everything i can't get away with making stuff up okay i have to put a reference for everything
• 14:00 - 14:30 but arsenic causes the exact same spinal pathology that and fevers and everything it literally mimics what they were calling polio and a polio virus back in the day i read this crazy statistic and I still can't believe it's real that 95 to 99% of all polio is asymptomatic that's exactly right so polio virus is what we call a commensal just like you have staff on your skin and strep on your skin and it actually serves a purpose it
• 14:30 - 15:00 keeps other microbes in check as long as you don't get a cut um and have not a good immune system to deal from the inside out so polio the reason I can say that polio is a commensal is because again there are medical studies that showed that um people who dared to get on the edge of some of these wild native tribes down in South America um or elsewhere but in particular I'm talking about a South American tribe called the Javante Indians so the um Indian Health Service got to the edge of it and bargained that they would get some stool and some blood from the tribes so that
• 15:00 - 15:30 they could test it for polio and what they found was 98 to 99% of every person they tested and it was hundreds of people had all had evidence of immunity to all three strains of polio and they said to them "Well where are your crippled children where's your short legs where are the people that died of respiratory failure?" And they were like "We don't have we don't have any of that problem." So it was well could it possibly be that whatever you're calling polio evolved and became less powerful over time and more contagious does that
• 15:30 - 16:00 does happen with some some viruses right most viruses in nature don't become more problematic as they go through the human the human system they become less problematic remember remember the the whole COVID thing like in the beginning people were getting super super sick it was it was wasn't as contagious but it was more virulent and as it attenuated into the human bodies it sort of fil it kind of fizzled out a bit and then we got the omocron which was you know less it was more spreadable but it was much
• 16:00 - 16:30 less pathological and that's the natural process that happens so when you're going to have problems real problems with um microbes they're usually going to be reverse attenuated meaning made more lethal in a lab and then they're introduced into the population and look I'm not making this up either 1916 uh upper east side Manhattan uh there was a Rockefeller lab that their their specific stated goal was to try to create the most pathological neuropathological strain of polio possible and they did that by taking
• 16:30 - 17:00 monkey brains and human um spinal serum and injecting it into monkeys and um there was a big problem with that which was released into the public by accident and the world experienced the worst polio epidemic on record 25% mortality that's unheard of uh really freaked the public out but as it as it and you can see the epicenter as it fanned out and as it fanned out and as time went on never heard of it again it it attenuates as it moves through the body because
• 17:00 - 17:30 it's a normal human commensal that goes back to its normal state when it's in a human and that's generally what happens if you have a highly lethal virus and it kills a lot of people those people are dead they can't spread anything so that's kind of a different story if you want to talk about h virus or something like that but as far as polio goes no polio was only made more lethal by the stupid things that humans did around it so make it more invasive into the body just like you can go do stupid things and end up with herpes outbreaks and uh you know staff outbreaks polio virus is a normal
• 17:30 - 18:00 convent commensal it used to be until we obliterated it with oral vaccines and replaced it with vaccine strain but the wild strains are um normal human commensiles so there's vaccine strain polio that just comes from a vaccine and is transmissible absolutely um today it would be the oral polio vaccines because they're the live strains and they're still giving them pulse fashion all throughout India um they they did a campaign a few years back in uh Israel and they always say
• 18:00 - 18:30 that a nomad came and you know pooped in the sewage system and they find it in the sewage system and they don't want an outbreak to happen so they treat everybody so that's today the most common reason to see um polio polomiitis disease from a virus if you test for a virus they'll usually find the vaccine virus and that's why today we don't remember when we were kids because we're about the same age I think uh they would give us the sugar cube um maybe you didn't but I did i got the sugar cube and that was the live um vaccine well
• 18:30 - 19:00 they stopped doing that because after a while the only cases of polio and it became so obvious that the only cases of polio we were seeing related to a virus um when they tested for polio virus were vaccine strains then they started injecting us again but the early injections caused more paralytic polio than it prevented and that's the part that people don't understand when they say what about polio because they they like you just go well there's no more iron lungs there's no more crippling there's no more these little poor little kids walking around with their their casts well that's that's not true because the iron lung is now called a
• 19:00 - 19:30 ventilator so that's out the window transverse myitis which there are about 1,300 cases uh I think it's a month diagnosed in one particular um I I put a quote put a quote in here on that but transverse myitis is actually something that would have absolutely it follows the same path pathology as polio would have been called polio back in the day so we still have polio that we had in 1953 because in 1953 all you had to have to be diagnosed as polio anyone could diagnose you just one examination with u
• 19:30 - 20:00 one set of muscles being paralyzed there was no time frame on it there was no testing done on it and then it was considered a public service to do it because then you were eligible for funding so what do they call it again can you say that word again myelitis polommyoly polomiolitis is the definition of the actual pathology you know so it basically means inflammation of the gray matter of your spinal cord that's what polio in Greek polomiolitis it means gray matter inflammation
• 20:00 - 20:30 polomiolitis polomiolitis is is what happens in the body okay if you want to talk about what causes it then okay maybe in some cases a polio virus causes it um and all the other things we just mentioned arsenic lead arsonate calcium arssonate um injections tonslectomies were huge cause of some of the worst cases of polomiitis and in fact injections and tonslectomies and unnecessary surgeries were put on hold during the years where the epidemics were the worst so that's
• 20:30 - 21:00 just proof that even the surgeons knew that why why does it affect it okay so if you happen to have polioitis circulating in your body that's not just sitting in your intestines and say it made its way into your body because we can things can go from your intestines into your body uh and you happen to um have it close to a nerve that's up say around your throat and then you go and take a tonsils out then what you've done is you've given that access to the blood compartment the lymph the lymph
• 21:00 - 21:30 compartment and the brain stem which is right there local so those were the people that would get what was called bulbar polio which is the ones that put you on a ventilator and make and it's highly lethal it's one of it's the worst kind of polio to get balbar polio and it was very well known to have been coincident with tonslectomies not only that but tonslectomies changed um the structure and antibodies and the immunity that occurred in the throat and it changed it for the for the worse not for the better do you think they're unnecessary or is
• 21:30 - 22:00 there some times when people have to get their tonsils removed or is it just a nonsense practice okay so again it's not it's not just a cut and dry answer because let's just say that anyone who's ever brought their child to me because their tonsils were touching or they were snoring has not had to have a tonslectomy now does that mean that a tonslectomy won't solve that problem where you're snoring and you know your kids maybe not oxygenating no if you let it go that long probably you're going to need a tonslectomy but I I have seen so many cases reverse it's a
• 22:00 - 22:30 very easy thing to do but as doctors we're not taught about all the things that you were talking about earlier the the natural remedies but just simply gargling with a solution of um of sodium ascorbate vitamin C can make a huge difference because tonsils are like they're like porous golf balls if you want to think of them that way they got pits in them and and so food you eat and bacteria and pus can build up but if you just start rinsing the outsides of them and start nourishing the body from the inside and getting rid of things that the kid might be allergic to which
• 22:30 - 23:00 almost every kid's going to eat if the parent doesn't know better it can make a remarkable difference in these kids that have these huge tonsils so I think that a lot I think everything else should be done first before taking out the tonsils if there's time because I'd say 95 to 99% of the time you can prevent that child from needing their tonsils removed before we go to smallox I want to talk about this because he just brought it up when one of the things that Brett Weinstein has uh explained to me is that
• 23:00 - 23:30 uh aluminum is uh when that the concept is that giving someone an a shot with aluminum in it and triggering an immune immune response if they're eating certain foods during that time they can then develop an allergy to those foods like certain people with peanuts and and various things like that that are used to be very common for people to eat but then a bunch of people developed like pretty severe food allergies and he makes this
• 23:30 - 24:00 connection that he believes is reasonably it's a reasonable connection to say that there's something absolutely oh 100% and and it's it's not just something he's dreamed up again provable medical literature in the book dissolving illusions um the physiology the pathology is known it's very well known that um the vaccines that have aluminum in them skew the immune system so the immune system kind of just if you want to break it down really simply you have your TH1 arm and your TH2 arm your
• 24:00 - 24:30 TH1 arm is your really important one those are the those are your tea cells you know your lymphosytes the cells that you know chew up any garbage that's going around that's the part you want activated in any infection you have whether it's COVID or measles or smallpox or whatever then you have your TH2 arm which is there mostly to deal with parasites and things like that and it's mostly an antibbody arm of immunity that's the one the vaccinologists are obsessed with making sure there's enough antibbody so th the vaccines that have aluminum in them as opposed to the live
• 24:30 - 25:00 attenuated vaccines which don't have aluminum all the other ones do so your DTAP is going to have aluminum in them all your killed vaccines are going to have aluminum in them and that is very well known to trigger that TH2 response which is the allergic response which can set up your body for autoimmunity um and so part of the pro part of the purpose of of you know breastfeeding which is you know part of the the blueprint for humanity and every other mammal uh is that the mother is able to introduce antigens in the world to her baby
• 25:00 - 25:30 through her own breast and things that she's been eating and breathing in and then the baby's able to develop tolerance so you know while vaccine scientists are obsessed with getting antibodies and ramping up in infants inadequate immune system the fact of the matter is is that it's more important to learn what not to react to when your immune system's developing rather than to becoming defensive against every microbe that could get you so that's kind of the paradox there and one of the the battlegrounds for you know immunology within immunology and for those of us out here that are going what are you doing here you know um anyway
• 25:30 - 26:00 you do you also talking in your book about the importance of breast milk and the the amount of nutrition that's in breast milk for for a child and what it does for a child you know and the differences in their immune system the differences in a lot of different aspects of their development which is pretty fascinating and most people kind of just assume it's food it's just food but it's a lot more than that it's so much more than that and I was actually quite startled when I really went down
• 26:00 - 26:30 that rabbit hole uh to see not only I mean it is food it's it's it's excellent nutrition with short- chain fatty acids and sugars that the baby needs and actually trains your gut to be healthy in the long run as an adult which trains your immune system as well but what that mother is putting through her breast milk you know things like something called Hamlet Hle T which stands for human alpha lactalumin made lethal to tumors and this is a substance this is a protein it's like a transformer protein
• 26:30 - 27:00 that um can literally turn into a cancer busting molecule that is being um used by the oncology industry okay and when it's not in that form it's a powerful protein that fights off um ptasus uh all kinds of numaccoal bacteria and when it's not doing that it's food okay so it's like it's got so many different purposes stem cells are coming through that that mother's milk activated tea cells activated tea cells have another
• 27:00 - 27:30 substance in them that's that is kind of hijacked by the oncology industry and that is when when they're immunosuppressing kids for leukemia or whatever and they come in contact say with um chickenpox what they can do is get somebody like me who's immune to chickenpox naturally and take my memory tea cells that remember that and there's a substance in there um called dializable lucasite extract when you put that into another child even if whether
• 27:30 - 28:00 they eat it or inject it into them it transfers cellular that TH1 important arm of immunity I just told you it transfers it onto them and protects them for a long time so that's kind of in the old days when when mothers had measles in the old days and normally and they were able to pass this powerful immunity through that that DLE factor as well as all these other things including pre-formed immune globbulins um I mentioned something like 80,000 stem cells it's it's it's just incredible all and we still have only hit the tip of
• 28:00 - 28:30 the iceberg in in in terms of what we know about breast milk but breast milk also it's been proven again that if you're going to if you are going to vaccinate your baby if you're breastfeeding the vaccine will bring that baby more into a TH1 if you're not breastfeeding and you're giving formula that baby's going to move more into a TH2 in response to that vaccine so like if I think if if most women understood the powers of breast milk they they would do everything possible to be able to do it
• 28:30 - 29:00 i I think you make a very compelling point for that i just I think it's arrogant that we could assume that we could replace something with a b I mean have you ever read the ingredients of formula like how could that be good i know parasites we h we have parasites that have been parasites upon humanity for such a long time and that's what happens is that something is discovered and for some people maybe it can be a good idea but then the parasites take it and and want to so with when it came to breastfeeding it was you don't have to
• 29:00 - 29:30 do that you don't have to bother yourself like that you don't have to pull your boobs out in public you don't have to become a dairy cow just strap them down the milk will stop and then you can start putting this wonderful When I was a kid I was fed soy milk in a warm plastic bag that was the fad then growing up um so the the formula industry is a huge money maker and some women do prefer it fortunately 75% of women in the USA today do initiate breastfeeding so that's very much better
• 29:30 - 30:00 than the polio days when almost nobody was breastfeeding and they were using milk in the infant formula that had been contaminated by what the cows were eating oh my god and so that was another part of the polio story that's not been told so the cows were all eating these pesticides yes and herbicides yes and the cows were getting sick with it and then these people were drinking the milk from that cow and getting sick as well eating the meat the cows wouldn't have been getting necessarily getting sick from it but it would be concentrating in
• 30:00 - 30:30 their milk and so the milk the milk would have been expressed but you you just brought me back to another place cows were also used during the smallox era and what you're saying is true about that so they would basically take um what they thought sorry it's just so dark that I sometimes you have to laugh but they would take pus from other animals scratch it into the belly of a cow then take the pus the pus off of the the big pimples that would form on the belly of a cow um the cow could become very sick
• 30:30 - 31:00 and yet that cow could still be butchered up at the butcher shop the butcher would get sick with pimpus or some hand and mouth disease or you know the things that the cows normally catch and so those cows could still be used to produce meat in those cases i don't know that it was used to produce milk i don't think that would have I I don't know but I know it was used to produce meat because the butchers were getting sick and the people that were eating the the meat were getting sick um and certainly the people that took the vaccines that had certain who knows what in them
• 31:00 - 31:30 because it was shown like into the 1970s 80s and even recently I have a reference from after the year 2000 that there was more bacteria and fungus in the small pox vaccines than there was smallox virus so it was because they had this thing called pure lymph which was pus that came out of the horse of a horse's foot or um a donkey pus skin or or a cadaavver of a human or a cow's um ulcerating utters and scraped into
• 31:30 - 32:00 glycerin and called pure lymph and marketed all over the world as a this is Joe this was our success this is the one vaccine that eliminated eradicated a disease can you believe that fairy tale i'll tell you another one like that it doesn't get crazy this is our success this this vaccine that I have described in great detail with what was in it and what people saw under microscopes and then later tested genetically was what was called a quasi species meaning they don't even after a
• 32:00 - 32:30 while it became its own thing it wasn't from a horse anymore it wasn't from a human anymore they called it um humanized horse pox when they um when they genetically characterized the dryax and then ordered that every drive specimen on the planet be destroyed i think that was around 2009 why did they do that good question i don't know hiding the evidence possibly but they now have a new vaccine um which doesn't work uh but they wanted to bring
• 32:30 - 33:00 this one back when I when I was in my the peak of my career in 2003 they I got a letter on my desk um stating that they needed people to get vaccinated for smallox so that those other people that were getting vaccinated would have somebody that could treat them that would be immune to small pox because it's well known that if you get a smallox vaccine and you get these horrible scabs that you're going you're going to spread small pox and you're going to have a horrible itchy time of it secondary infections you will
• 33:00 - 33:30 need a doctor at some point well it turns out that the trials that they did on super healthy people soldiers that were in top shape were so bad in terms of cardiac disease and other diseases that the government put it on hold for a second and said "No no no we can't do this." Meanwhile guess what they were using the same vaccine in the 1700s and 1800s late Yeah 17 late se late late 1700s all through the 1800s into the 1900s they would sometimes you probably saw the picture of the the child's arm
• 33:30 - 34:00 considered a good take five huge ulcers on the arm be with sanitation being what it was no antibiotics can you imagine having your baby have five scars on its arm ulcerating from these things having fevers sometimes the arms became necrotic sometimes the disease spread all over the place and there was nothing but to give them except bloodletting mercurials and our centacles and heating them up in a dark room with no sunlight that was the treatment for small pox so you tell me why small pox was so lethal
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• 35:00 - 35:30 of food plus free shipping just go to the farmersdog.com/rogan tap the banner or visit this episode's page to learn more offer available for new customers only well what's fascinating also is that most people aren't aware of the just the general public health conditions during the time of the smallox outbreak that's right and uh the just the way the way people lived is almost unheard of you
• 35:30 - 36:00 you you wouldn't you wouldn't be able to imagine just the smell of human feces everywhere like streets were filled with outouses there was animal [ __ ] in the streets it was no sanitation there's no running water it's a disaster it's a disaster and there's no good food so you got malnutrition you You're exposed to numerous pathogens and just in waste you probably have feal matter on everything it's probably unavoidable it tracks in
• 36:00 - 36:30 your house it's everywhere you go it's your drinking water the drinking water was the you would skim the top off for your drinking water back then and we know that co- infections make make any primary infection worse you know if you have measles and you get a co- infection makes it worse covid with a co- in anything makes it worse you end up with you know pneumonas and pus pockets in your lungs so yeah thank you for that description i don't think I could have done it much better myself but that's that's the normal it's go watch Gangs of New York like that's that's obviously a
• 36:30 - 37:00 a drama and you know it's probably not completely accurate but I bet it's pretty close i bet it's pretty close to how people lived back then yeah the slums like you can you can actually like in here it's not all medical art articles quoted um some of the quotes that we use are historical quotes from you know anthropologists that would go through the slums in New York you know the Ellis Island was just bringing people in bringing people in and these they would sometimes have 20 people in one room with no privy um dark you know like you say some of and the sewage would run underneath the house so the
• 37:00 - 37:30 smell of it would be coming up through the whole time and then you'd have them working 16 hours a day at the age of anything up up upwards of four to five years old could be sent to either coal mines or caneries um to bring money in uh for the families to barely survive so people weren't being paid very well but you just said smallox being what it was but what people don't realize is that in the 1600s late 1680s doctors were describing small pox as one of the easiest diseases to treat if you simply just supported the human again quoted
• 37:30 - 38:00 uh that and then what happened is the industrial revolution and people were taken with the land enclosure acts out from the farms and brought into cities which didn't have the pigs basically were the garbage men back then so the pigs ran wild thank god because if they didn't it would have been even worse horses were your cars so horse were dumping everywhere you know some people just they said there was a foot of horse manure to get through to walk across the street so um it it was it was horrible in pretty much every way you can think of and and then the human oppression on
• 38:00 - 38:30 top of it in terms of the poverty that was there and the wealthy elite at the top kind of you know living the the good life but it was starting to filter up to them at some point which is why um it was actually individual people that sponsored the first um public drinking fountains and things like that was probably partly to save themselves because if you can if you can stop disease from rent running rampant through society look they still had to go into the cities to get things right um and even if you sent your servant into the city your servant could bring
• 38:30 - 39:00 you home something lovely from the city uhhuh yeah this is not the picture that was painted when we were children of what society was like you know no we were told that that this vaccine was so important and it was it was so effective that we don't need it anymore i actually ended up with one when I was very young i think what we're talking about when we're saying the conditions that these conditions aren't known to most people and that these conditions coincide with these diseases and that's probably it's
• 39:00 - 39:30 probably not just a correlation so the the conditions correlate with the the with the diseases and the conditions also correlate with the death rates okay and so there were many of the diseases that we're talking say just diarrhea do you know diarrhea killed more people in the Civil War than bullets and lots of other wars diarrhea um diarrhea can be caused by lots of things nothing that we vaccinate for essentially at that well I mean today there's roto virus but that wasn't a thing then it was more you know
• 39:30 - 40:00 typhus and things like that so um and are they getting it from water yeah that's what that would have been because they would be out you know in the in the in the bush or the trenches you know drinking what they could so um redirect me again we were just talking about the um Okay so the the diseases that there were never any vaccines for we see the death rate come down at the same exact avalanche as the diseases that we did vaccinate for and in some cases there's a little blip when the vaccine comes up and things get
• 40:00 - 40:30 worse for a bit and then come back down uh so again the point of the book was just interpreting the data that's existed for a really long time vital statistics throughout the world as to the decline in death rate in some cases disease rates went down too but the most important thing was the death rate because that's what people your baby could die you have to have a vaccine right it's not your baby could have a rash right um you know so different diseases have different severities and um and different solutions and different
• 40:30 - 41:00 ways to treat them so that they never have to present to a hospital but like you said you know back in those days you know there wasn't the the pharmacies basically had your mercurials if you were lucky some homeopathics um that was pretty much medicine back then until aspirin was invented which was probably one of the reasons why the 1918 flu looked as bad as it did because they were giving people up to 10 grams of aspirin a day which can cause pulmonary edema in a healthy person so so h what was the logic behind the arsenics and
• 41:00 - 41:30 the mercurials like how did that become an approach that they use for medicine oh well I don't know actually don't know the answer to why they started doing that those are two really bad things well I'll tell you I'll tell you how they prescribed it is they would say give one grain until emmesis occurs that means throwing up so give it until the person throws up because back then they believed that if they could get you to throw up they thought if bringing stuff out of your body was good bloodletting throwing up and diarrhea and so that's
• 41:30 - 42:00 how that was the threshold for giving a lot of these drugs so they thought instead you know how can you get someone to have diarrhea with as a doctor okay well we can give them mercurials in our centacles that will do the trick um and so they thought that they could purge the body by thinking medicine past present and future okay paradoxically as a therapeutic agent that has been used since ancient times for the treatment of multiple diseases so does it um actually cure some stuff in small doses well well how
• 42:00 - 42:30 what good does it cure if you have a dead patient or a patient with neuropathy you haven't really cured anyone have you right well isn't it dose dependent right it says arsenic triioxide the active ingredient in a traditional Chinese medicine was shown to produce dramatic remission of acute pol You could say that word ma'am promyioidic leukemia thank you similar to the fact they decided that vitamin A could do it okay right transretinoic acid so retinoic acid which is vitamin A
• 42:30 - 43:00 okay that's interesting I would say vitamin A less risky I'd say it's less risky for vitamin A than arsenic I meanlight kind of arsenic slightly different kind of arsenic or a lower dose of arsenic is that uh they would they measured things in grains back then so I I guess that's probably like maybe like a milligram something like that but the Chinese medicine is probably the root of it right why they thought it was medicine could be um but and maybe they use the wrong arsenic or that's possible i guess
• 43:00 - 43:30 you you start trying the things that you have right mercury's a crazy one though haven't they known that's poison forever like it wasn't that quicks though they used wasn't it in the same thing or no i don't know it's a fascinating metal because it's liquid it's a liquid metal and a lot of people played with it when they were kids i know some of the smartest people I know talk about how they played with the mercury ball when they were little yikes um and it's in thermometers and obviously it works quite well there's there's a use for mercury um but the reason that um that
• 43:30 - 44:00 that it's put into the it was actually in the MMR vaccines and some of the flu vaccines is because it's an antimicrobial it'll kill everything so maybe that was part of that it will kill everything it will kill the microbes in a petri dish so in order to because this is one of the realities of vaccine manufacturer which I want your audience to understand is that vaccines while it might look like just a clear liquid in order to make a vaccine you have to have either a cow that you put ulcers on and scrape the pus off um or you can evolve
• 44:00 - 44:30 it as it had evolved to um maybe getting um you know some tumorous cells that came out of a cocker spaniel's kidney or monkey balls or uh or monkey kidneys and you plate those cells cells out and then you inoculate it with what you want to grow to put in your vaccine later but in order to keep those cells alive you have to put animal blood on it you have to put different nutrients on top of it you have to put antibiotics canycin you know things like that related to the COVID
• 44:30 - 45:00 here mercury okay so in the end you can kill you can make sure when you have your final product that if you put a little bit of mercury in there that it's less likely for any of the fungus or the spores or the bacteria or the adventicious viruses that you didn't know about that were there before will be in your final product wonderful so you have a product now that you can be not completely sure has any of these um um deadly microbes but now has mercury which the only places it's actually okay to have on a on the planet mercury is in
• 45:00 - 45:30 vaccines your tooth or toxic landfill so if you were to drop a vaccine at a vaccine clinic onto the floor the hazmat guys will come and you you're not allowed to just pick it up if it's got a if it's a mercury containing vaccine the hazmat people have to come and take that away yet we're okay to take you know sec a portion of that vial and inject it into you know a child a three-month old child how does that work it doesn't sound logical sixmonth old actually
• 45:30 - 46:00 there was also the the issue with the different types of mercury right there was is it methyl and ethl the two different methyl yeah yeah apparently ethl is good and methyl is bad according to Paul Offett senior vaccine scientist uh but the fact of the matter is um once once mercury's methylated and like fish fish can methylate mercury and they can get rid of it um once we demethylate mercury it's it's in us until you do something like something called chelation where you can put a chemical into the body that can grab onto it and
• 46:00 - 46:30 pull it out through your urine otherwise you're stuck with it uh so in my opinion all mercury is bad um shouldn't be put into humans shouldn't be in our food sources shouldn't be in our environment except for in the na look you can even find uranium in nature right it's what people do to it to concentrated and how they use it that becomes a problem wasn't the the issue that one of them I don't know it's methyl or ethyl mercury um leaves the body quicker yes it's ethyl mercury that leaves the
• 46:30 - 47:00 body quicker because methyl is a it's a it's a chemical that gets put onto it um naturally and apparently um I'm not an expert on mercury poisoning but u apparently methyl mercury we don't have the ability to excrete but ethyl mercury we do um yeah but wasn't there also an issue that it crosses the blood brain barrier well anytime there's inflammation anything can cross the bloodb brain barrier um with the it's the aluminum that we
• 47:00 - 47:30 really know crosses the bloodb brain barrier um and that's still in vaccines today and um yeah anyway we'll get into bloodb brain barrier if you want to that's a whole it's a whole other story um but yeah so mercury obviously it can get into the brain it's it's it's found in the brain it can get into you know your adrenals and your other glands and important areas of your body and even the thing is that even at such low levels can cause problems known neuro toxin there's no has no place for
• 47:30 - 48:00 circulating or being deposited in the human body in any form but isn't it fascinating that they've done such a good job promoting this that people are going to get outraged at what you're saying they've done such a good job to my life and you've got a lot of courage and I want to commend you for that because writing that book and and being here talking about it takes a lot of courage and it's from regular people who want to believe the vaccine they're scarier than anybody the people that are just raid vaxers and they want they they stand for
• 48:00 - 48:30 science like they're the warriors for science and they get very aggressive about it and they don't even want to breach the subject they don't even want to look at it cuz the more you look at it if you're a logical rational person without like a deep-seated ideology attached to vaccines and you just looked at the reality of it you just go what what is this like how did you trick people into injecting How many a year now for kids what is it in the 70s we're in the se I believe
• 48:30 - 49:00 we're in the 70s that's insane that's And then you want to demonize anybody who says anything about vaccine side effects you are the craziest of cooks they come down you with the hardest publicity campaign it's so transparent you see it coming a mile away and you're still shocked by how blatant it is and no one wants to look at the actual issue itself and no one wants to say like well is she right if
• 49:00 - 49:30 you read your book is she right if you're right and I think you're right like we've been lied to and we've been tricked into thinking that this is all settled science and that's what's infuriating it's not that it's anti-science it's like this is not science what you guys are doing is not science you've subverted you've you've perverted that notion and you've you've done it in an amazing way i mean hats off to you what the what they've done in terms of like brainwashing people to
• 49:30 - 50:00 believe that all this is it's not just necessary but it saved millions of lives and anybody that is against it in any way shape or form is a quack and you should be deplatformed and never talked about again and polite public society and cocktail parties you'll be shunned yeah well the way they were able to get away with it is 226 years worth of propaganda um because the fact of the matter is that ever since the beginning of the smallox vaccines there have been vaccine deaths um the reason and look we we've added I brought
• 50:00 - 50:30 you a a special copy this is a limited edition um in the 10th anniversary edition we added 200 pages and we added a chapter called the white plague the white plague is also tuberculosis tuberculosis was a side effect of the um of the smallox vaccine uh tuberculosis rates were rampant and and in fact the the the inventor of the smallox vaccine um his child died of tuberculosis and so did his two test subjects that he used and it was well known to follow smallox
• 50:30 - 51:00 lots of doctors talked about it but um in in about two or three years after the vaccine was um accepted in in England uh you hear doctors speaking out about it cursing the day they ever agreed to do it to people to children to anybody and so But what happened is that the government came down harder and started making it mandatory and would take your furniture away and started intimidating the doctors and that's an age-old thing as well and I experienced it and any doctor that's ever stepped out of of of line and said something bad about
• 51:00 - 51:30 vaccines will either be intimidated or worse um so 220 years of prop 226 years of propaganda and and so I'm just going to give you one example and I and I'll give you a copy of this to have and you can put it up later if you want but in 1984 because there was so much so much going on in terms of the public learning about the problems with the diptheria tetanus ptus vaccine and the polio vaccines that a federal register was issued by the government and went to all health departments in the United States
• 51:30 - 52:00 which is supposed to been just kept there and never circulated and it said quote any doubts whether or not wellfounded about the safety of the vaccination program must not be allowed to exist that's literally what it said it's straight out of um you know Lennon um so you had that and then you have the changing of the goalpost and the app outright lies within scientism because it's not science it's the religion that that's calls itself science and we still are a victim of that today um most
• 52:00 - 52:30 science today is sponsored by the very people that are going to profit from it and and that I think even look even Jenner who invented the small pox vaccine never did a scientific study he never did a controlled study he never did nonvaccinated people vaccinated people and then exposed them to small pox and in a in a large enough group he would cowpox them and then expose them to small pox and it was well known that small pox followed cowpox uh so it it's just been a look again I never expected
• 52:30 - 53:00 to be here i just wanted to be a healer i just wanted to be a doctor i wanted to be a nefrologist and teach medical students and make the world a better place for people that's all I ever wanted this is a nightmare for me actually to while while I've met some incredible people and and I've had a really good life and I have no regrets and I would do it all again no doctor wants to be put in a position where their integrity is doubted um their sanity is doubted and if you want to pull up a page um called um it is
• 53:00 - 53:30 called rational wiki I think maybe um wikip uh anyway I'm considered as a Sith Lord a very um and in fact I didn't know what a Sith Lord was back then I had to actually look it up so I'm like Darth Vader so a bit it was a bit of a compliment but on the other hand most doctors can't tolerate being called quacks or having the reputation destroyed and and you know I went from treating the CEO of of actually the uh the head of the laboratory at my
• 53:30 - 54:00 hospital for hypertension to becoming you know somebody that was doubted on every levels after a while because of one thing that I said which was can we stop giving vaccines to my sick patients to people who are having um chemotherapy while they're having chemotherapy to my patient before I've even seen them on the ward can we just can we just hold this up and give it to them on the day of discharge that was my request in the beginning that's how this all landed here and had they not tried to intimidate me doubt me and pushed me to research and show that what I saw was
• 54:00 - 54:30 actually real I would still be locked step working as a regular doctor because there were some good things about it so the the look even if you look at what happened with COVID let's just look at that like how did how did they pass this off look at the media today do you know that they're giving COVID vaccines to six-month-old children now we know how bad it is we know that it ruins stem cells in pregnant women they don't give stem cells to their babies is the industry is upset because the placentas no longer have stem cells and they used to use those stem cells in research and
• 54:30 - 55:00 cosmetics etc they're not getting them anymore because what the COVID shots did to the placentas and those infants that's not being talked about in the media nothing bad about the shots being talked about when we have Kevin McCern and all these people looking at it going there's SV40 in it there was a stafaloccoal endotoxin gene there were two snake genes in there you know it's a definite gain of function nope we got to put it on the vaccine the baby vaccine schedule because any doubts whether or not wellunded about the vaccination must not be allowed to exist that's why that
• 55:00 - 55:30 sounds like a religion it sounds like a cult it sounds like a crazy cult that the whole world's been sucked into giving a COVID shot to a baby today is insane three of them they get three by the certain I you'd have to look up the schedule but I I believe it starts at six months and they get three of them kind of boom boom boom are doctors really recommending this it's it's on the it it look there's there's a group of people called ACIP the doctors usually with with um vaccine interests in their bank accounts that
• 55:30 - 56:00 make the recommendations for the vaccines and they've recommended that that six-month-old so if your doctor is following the ACIP program you have to be offered that vaccine and now that doctor this is another part of the story is that doctor's likely to lose $250,000 a year if they don't do that because there's incentive given to hospitals and doctors which is what naively I was on the other end of when I woke up in 2008 and said "Wait a minute why are we doing this stuff to my sick inflamed patients you're giving more inflammation." Um
• 56:00 - 56:30 it's because the hospital would lose something like $40,000 if they didn't give a vaccine within the first 24 hours of admission oh my god and they would get 40,000 if it was all a money game that's really the bottom line of it and I didn't know that until a nurse years ago uh who was a highlevel administration she said Suzanne this is why they do they did that to you oh wow okay well at least it makes sense now nobody wants to think of it as a business nobody wants to think you're making business decisions at the expense
• 56:30 - 57:00 of someone's health and and possibly whether or not they make it like what are you what are you doing well that that's been the case since you know basically the the medical profession was infiltrated in the early 1900s by you know high level interests that that didn't want us thinking for ourselves and carrying on with the natural cures that actually work carrying on with normal midwifery um there was just so many changes that happened as a result of best practice medicine not to mention you know the forming of the AMA by a
• 57:00 - 57:30 couple of real quacks um that's a really good story and the AMA would give their stamp of approval so say you created an infant formula well it would say AMA approved and your infant formula would sell even better or remember when doctors smoked camels cuz camels were best those were the days and this is also the time when this coincides with when Rockefeller was designing the school system right well first Rockefeller I think oil was
• 57:30 - 58:00 one of their primary so that's the pharmacy aspect of it that's right oh so so you want to talk about the school system no but he did both right he was a part of both so he was a part of he the the reason why natural cures are so easily dismissed and why it's so dismissed because Rockefeller put the entire medical establishment on oilbased that's right so all pharmaceutical drugs that are made by using oil and he did it because he sold oil you know that want to know the irony it kind of works yeah like I got I got rid of a really bad
• 58:00 - 58:30 case of mange in a dog by kerosene putting kerosene diluted in olive oil and and they had been through everything they could not get rid of this mange on this beautiful dog oh wow um Corso dog and uh yeah so uh mange is horrible for dogs oh really bad but one spray it was was done i had a dog that I picked up you have to keep careful around the like you know flames and stuff i had one a dog that I picked up off the street and uh took her in and she had horrible mange but it all went away with just food i just gave her healthy food no it
• 58:30 - 59:00 can't Joe come on you had to have an expert help you no kerosene no nothing just love food that was an argument I had in a hallway once with the senior um chief of medicine he was he was like he would always say "So how are you today?" Normally be like "Good." You know superficial conver i said "By the way I'm having real trouble with you know the H1N1 vaccine my patients getting um kidney failure after getting it." And he and he turned dark on me i never saw him dark before and he said "No they just didn't have time to take effect." And of
• 59:00 - 59:30 course then I heard every kind of sound bite in the book from him which I didn't know were sound bites at the time and then he said "Well what do you think has happened with menitis and these these college kids?" I'm like "Oh come on that's a total no-brainer." It's like their nutrition goes down the tubes when they leave home they're smoking they're staying up all night long they're hanging out with their pals they're doing everything they couldn't do when they were at home oh you got to be kidding me so you think it's their food that's that's that's causing problems and I was like "Well what medical school did you go to?" Like I was actually taught that nutrition matters and how it matters and why it matters but that's
• 59:30 - 60:00 been almost completely thrown like if you're if you want to sneak a vitamin C into somebody's hospital room you know the best way to do it don't bring in a jar of vitamin C because they will stop that at the door you get yourself a McDonald's milkshake or a burger and you just dump that milkshake out and you put something else in there as smoothies with some vitamin C and they will say off you go that's perfectly fine that's going to be great for this person this child that's how you can get it in because they think that McDonald's is wonderful in fact McDonald's are kind of situated proximal to a lot of hospitals
• 60:00 - 60:30 and the McDonald's Ronald McDonald houses are there and everything else uh but bring in a homeopathic or you know magnesium or vitamin C and you've got to get permission for it and go through so much red tape and a lot of time you'll be told no you can't give it because oh you'll cause bowel necrosis you'll cause diarrhea you'll cause kidney stones everything in the book that doesn't actually happen with vitamin C but it's what most look they've measured vitamin C levels on people that enter hospitals and pretty much everybody's deficient or
• 60:30 - 61:00 on the border of deficient when they enter and pretty much everybody when and they leave as got borderline scurvy if not full full scurvy fortunately they go home and start doing other things and can rebuild some of their vitamin C scores but there there is a there's a lot of subclinical scurvy walking around out there and those are the people that are going to have do the worst with the vaccine and the worst they're going to do the worst with subclinical scurvy in modern society just from poor diet well you know it's not just the poor diet so any kind of stress will consume uh
• 61:00 - 61:30 vitamin C uh a cigarette will consume 75 milligrams of vitamin C and they tell you that you only need 190 milligrams a day that's the FDA requirement wow uh so you just have a few cigarettes and you've depleted your your stores so we don't make our own vitamin C as uh humans humans and guinea pigs you know that's we don't we don't do that and so we have to consume it and we're reliant upon our fruits and vegetables or supplements to do or if you eat organ meat you can eat the adrenals are loaded with it but uh aside from that it's your
• 61:30 - 62:00 fruits and vegetables that that are going to give it to you um so if if you're under a lot of stress or you're taking medication or you have a lot of inflammation or arthritis whatever that's going to consume vitamin C because vitamin C is an antioxidant as well as an antiviral and you know good for your nerve nervous system uh so yeah most people are walking around skimming the the edge if you have you can see kind of a red line on some people's gums they're probably vitamin C deficient if your gums are bleeding a lot when you floss you probably need some vitamin C
• 62:00 - 62:30 um and you know you could have an infection too but it will deal to the infection as well as the integrity and the collagen inside of your bones and your soft tissues i mean it's it's like one of those things that's so important it should be given upon admission to every hospital and what's really crazy is if you're one of those people that thinks that all you need is a a balanced diet and you're eating like a piece of chicken and some lettuce yeah like that there's no vitamin C in any of that or not enough probably not enough yeah just won't do it yeah yeah if you're if you're not consuming like some sort of
• 62:30 - 63:00 liposomaal vitamin C supplement if you're not taking something on top of that you're probably not at an optimal level to survive anything which is it's also it's like part of why we have so many metabolic diseases we have bad metabolic health we have metabolic diseases like they should it should be super obvious like oh everyone's like really unhealthy and doesn't have any nutrients in their system and they're all getting really sick from all these different things huh yeah but everyone's like "No you need medicine you need a
• 63:00 - 63:30 shot you need a this you need a that you need to get on this you need to get off that and get back on this." And you're a hippie if you want to just eat kiwi fruits and get your vitamin C from that or have oranges or broccoli oh my gosh broccoli makes you a total hippie or kale forget about it um nuts no see we have a different kind of malnutrition today than than we describe in the book back then it was people were toxic from basically drinking poop water and being being worked to death and
• 63:30 - 64:00 having diseases all around them um and so they were protein calorie malnutrition as well as vitamin as well today we have kind of disnutrition you know like Dys disnutrition and that everyone's fat so you don't they don't really look malnourished pretty much you know you you go on a cruise or you go to the beach you even have big bellies now big belly is the thing what was that i said go to Burke Chryser's house who's that that's my friend okay he's going to hate that you don't know who he is
• 64:00 - 64:30 but you know so today we've got inflamed guts from you know glyphosate and you know the wheat that's been altered to to make us inflamed and and then just the chemicals that are added to our food and the the vitamins that actually don't help us and set us back that are fortifying our you know bread and milk lack of vitamin D so we have a different kind of a problem but essentially causing the same bodily dysfunction yeah the wheat thing I used to think was nonsense until I uh ate pasta and bread
• 64:30 - 65:00 in Italy and I was like "Okay why do I feel so much better?" Yeah why do I not feel like I just ate poison cuz I love like pizza oh I love it i love lasagna i love it i love it it's so good but after it's over I'm like I'm incapacitated for like an hour or two for like a twohour period you're just like a shadow of yourself just Yeah and you you think "Oh maybe it's just the high carbs." But you just proved that it wasn't because
• 65:00 - 65:30 in Italy you were okay with it i ate a whole pizza in Italy and I was waiting for it i was like "I'm going to eat this margarita pizza it's so good they made it in the brick oven." I was like "This is so good i'm eating the whole pizza i don't care i don't care what it's going to feel like afterwards." I ate that whole pizza and then I was like "Where's it is it coming?" It waiting for Never came never came i felt normal i felt like I just ate food i was like "This is nuts." Like no crash yeah the bread in Scandinavia same that's what people used to eat people don't know that that What's that i said "That's what people
• 65:30 - 66:00 used to eat." It is like real real food people need to understand like what they did was and this is according to um Maynard from Tulle do you know Maynard Keenan the lead singer of Tulle no uh he actually runs a farm he uh he has vineyards and he has like uh like he's Kaduciius is his wine label and he's like really good at growing things and because he has a restaurant he was explaining to me that what they did is they just engineered it to have higher yield so they put more it's got more complex glutens in it so it's not the
• 66:00 - 66:30 normal organic wheat that grows in Italy where they don't have genetically modified crops right so you can still get that flour and you can still get that pasta from Italy and it's much more consumable yeah definitely but the American stuff is just thick it's just your body's like "What is this?" It just comes in like sludge it is interesting it feels like I ate glue that's what it always feels like when it's over unless it's um really good sourdough bread that doesn't seem to have that yeah yeah i kind of agree like I'm not gluten
• 66:30 - 67:00 sensitive but I I definitely feel more awake when I don't have it yeah it's not good on holiday or when you want to go to sleep delicious i know i know it's so delicious but this is also a problem and this goes back to when R.J reynolds was going through all their stuff with uh the lawsuits that were coming from people realizing "Oh my god cigarettes give you cancer they're not good to like smoke if you have emphyma i thought they were good for add some arsenic and it' be great." There was a movie and I forget what movie it was and it Thank you for smoking well there's that but
• 67:00 - 67:30 there was a movie where uh Leonardo DiCaprio was young and he was sick and his doctor was prescribing cigarettes to him and like the mother was saying "Did you smoke your cigarettes that the doctor told you to you?" Like you're not smoking like you need to keep up your health like Well you know there's something to that because you know about the nicotinic receptors and you know the smokers got less COVID than the rest of us and I did a protective effect well also doesn't nicotine kill CO like people were saying that nicotine No so
• 67:30 - 68:00 that's what it is that's how it kills it but what happens so So the spike of COVID which is the evil part of COVID has all these horrible lab engineered proteins encoded into them and two of them are snake toxin proteins that bind onto your nicotinic receptors okay so if you can smoke nicotine or take nicotine gum then you're going to block those receptors up so so that so you can trade off some of the stuff that's from the SP what about like nicotine pouches like
• 68:00 - 68:30 these kind of like that would probably if you're having you know long COVID or you know any kind of postcoid syndrome um that's related to the nicotinic receptors you only know by trying it but listen I always say start small don't go out and be a hero and you know take a whole dose at once start with a quarter of whatever it says and wait and see what happens because nicotine is a powerful drug try a cigar pick up the cigar there you go it's a wonderful habit um yeah that was an uncomfortable thing in the beginning of CO they were saying that for some
• 68:30 - 69:00 reason smokers seem to be having a much easier go of it like what how do you have a respiratory disease where smokers are statistically speaking uh getting less COVID yeah yeah well I mean I've been around I did a tour one time and there were two heavy heavy smokers on the bus with me and they were the only two people that didn't come down with whatever flu all the rest of us got that not even that flu couldn't even live in their throats it's kind of makes sense if you think
• 69:00 - 69:30 about it well it changes the polarity of your mucous membranes the charge of the cells on your mucous membranes and that's probably part of why the even the viruses can't adhere properly we're not encouraging cigarettes no we're not at all but we are saying it's But if you are it should be noncured naturally cured oh like American Spirits like those kind of deals i get all my smoking friends to convert to that brand does that help totally come on are you kidding me you know how many horrible carcinogens there are do you know back in the native days when they were smoking and and people were smoking natural cigarettes it was almost unheard
• 69:30 - 70:00 of for them to develop lung cancer right with a natural tobacco uh American Spirit cigarettes are not I'm sorry they're they're absolutely wrong it is it's marketed as natural and additive free which may lead people to believe that they are a safer option however there's no scientific evidence to support this claim they may even have higher levels of nicotine than some other brands but the nicotine is not the problem so that's exactly right just by them saying that there that leads me to think that this might be propaganda because saying that nicotine is not the problem that that's or rather saying
• 70:00 - 70:30 that they have might have more nicotine okay oh I'm just But I understand but AI should understand that he smokes i know i know he does i'm I'm just saying AI doesn't make sense what doesn't make sense is that it's saying they might have more nicotine but that doesn't matter they're not addressing that to skip time to save time so we don't have to go through oh no no no i'm not saying to you i'm just saying to them like what what they're writing seems to kind of be silly marketing of American spirits as natural can create a
• 70:30 - 71:00 false sense of healthiness which may make it more difficult for people to quit smoking i think smoking companies wrote this i think the other companies fed this information well people spitting up blood on the packages and stuff do you see oh in England you get those no they have it now oh they have America here they used to have it in England you go to England and they had photos of people with like rotten face that's where I first saw it but it's moved to the rest of I know it's hilarious it's like can they still buy them and smoke them well the the interesting
• 71:00 - 71:30 thing is and I'm glad you brought this up um is just cancer in general like there's things that cause cancer that they're just everywhere in and there's a lot of things in the environment can cause cancer but sometimes things get into medications that can cause cancer and what is what is SV40 i just wrote down SP40 while you were talking um and I'm g I'm just going to give you an example of what you're
• 71:30 - 72:00 saying is correct and the fact of the matter is is that all cancers in humanity have gone up since the inception of vaccination and my opinion my educated opinion is that our lifespan should be 120 years and I think with the knowledge that we have and the and the wealth that we have on this planet the ingenuity we have on this planet we should be able to be touching the 120 year mark more commonly than we do um so when vaccines started um coming into humanity we were in we started introducing uh animal disease into humanity through the skin and then we
• 72:00 - 72:30 started doing interuscular injections uh after the hypodermic needle was created and then you started having deeper injections of h of of animal disease and of chemicals and and mercuries and things like that uh so along comes polio research and the polio vaccine uh even to this day is made on African green monkey kidney cells now the African green monkey kidneys early on were basically taken out of their wild habitat in India and millions of monkeys were brought uh to
• 72:30 - 73:00 the USA for use unbeknownst to them and discovered by a scientist named Dr bernice Eddie is that there was a a cancer-causing entity inside of the uh inside of the the substrate that they were using to make the vaccine on the petri dishes and that entity was Simeon virus 40 SV40 called SV40 because before there were 39 others discovered before it now we're up over 100 um so that information was suppressed heavily
• 73:00 - 73:30 bernice Eddie was offered a ticket to wherever she wanted to go and as much money as she wanted and she said no I'm staying long story short is they just kept taking her away from her work and distracting her and there was another doctor Jay Anthony Morris as well um anyway so SV40 was around and then Maurice Hillerman validated it later and said it came from the African green monkey kidneys now it's benign in the African green monkey SV40 it is not benign in human beings in human beings it was called the perfect war machine by Dr michelle Carboni who was one of the
• 73:30 - 74:00 primary researchers looking at the carcinogenic potential of Simeon virus 40 so Simeon virus 40 would have been in the um live polio vaccines because there was nothing to kill it uh but it was more most likely also in the killed and African green monkey cells are actually still a listed ingredient on vaccines so you can go ahead and look that up it's a fact so how this affects me is that um I'm a I'm a kidney specialist and I looked at the curve of kidney cancers that have
• 74:00 - 74:30 gone up since the inception of uh vac polio vaccines and SV40 introduction so what this virus does it is it enhances two cancer promoting genes and it inhibits two cancer suppressors okay that's why it's called the perfect war machine so that was in the vaccines that were injected and so the the bad news is that we don't need vaccines to give it to us anymore because we're going to give it to each other forever and it's never going anywhere that was introduced to humanity like a lot of other diseases
• 74:30 - 75:00 were through vaccination we can give it to our kids we can give it to each other it comes out in the urine and so it lives in the green monkey kidneys it lives in our kidneys as a kidney specialist there were a lot of mysterious diseases uh lo and behold there was some research into some of them and the research was just put this is the other thing the research that that's really important just gets killed the funding gets killed in terms of SV40 kidney cancers there's no doubt that the rate of kidney cancers has gone up alongside with the um with the infection rate of humanity for SV40 as well as
• 75:00 - 75:30 diseases like glomeular nephritis which they do find the pathogen um genetic material inside and they and even in the old days they found it in the tumors but not the surrounding areas so that just tells you that it was a stimulant for the tumor cells to just start uh propagating uh so that's that's just one of the things that that's just one of many many of the obvious ones and even though it's been well defined in the medical literature you will see still see that they only admit that it causes
• 75:30 - 76:00 methylomas and one other thing not that it causes all the other things that it does that it's been shown to cause in the other medical literature that got its funding revoked so SV40 is now contagious amongst people absolutely yeah we probably both have it most of us probably have had it one time or other you know whether it's lying dormant in our kidneys it depends on it everything depends on your background immunity which depends on what you're doing for fun and not fun and how you're eating and how much you're sleeping etc how
• 76:00 - 76:30 much sun you're getting sweating sweating gets rid of a lot of stuff it's really good to sweat it's just such a disturbing thought that this was introduced to people through vaccines and now it's spreading and what is the what's the like the worst health impact that it could have if it spreads to you and not through a vaccine if you didn't get it through this vaccine and you just get it from another person like oh it's the same thing it's not going to make much difference in terms it'll it'll gravitate to your kidneys um
• 76:30 - 77:00 obviously it probably goes to lung as well brain brain tumors were a big problem with it um back in the polio days dr michelle Carboni was looking at the brain tumors uh with that there's a really good book called The Virus and the Vaccine by Bookchin and Schumacher it's a incredible book that details everything about those years the scientists involved the suppression the oppression the lies the skull duggery then they would bring in the scientists who had no experience in actually detecting SV40 and lo and behold he couldn't find it and he was the one that
• 77:00 - 77:30 got to make the ultimate statement on whether SV40 causes human disease or not i just how could they keep injecting that into people if they know this oh and this the stocks that contained SV40 were still um basically being used by the vaccine manufacturers up into the 1990s and probably beyond because there's two different kinds of SV40 you're making me remember a whole bunch of things that I thought I forgot but there's the um there's the fast dividing and there's the slow dividing there's
• 77:30 - 78:00 two different kind of strains of it and the original test so when they made a vaccine they would test it for 14 days looking for SV40 if it didn't have it off you went your your vaccine was good to go but the problem is there was a slower dividing SV40 that remained in the vaccines that were injected and probably in the stocks that are the stock is basically like your your your mother tincture or whatever it's what you use to kind of inoculate all the new batches over time and so the stocks were found that's again quote Dr um attorney
• 78:00 - 78:30 Stanley Cop's quote in the book about the uh SV40 still being in the stock up and through the 1990s and you know God only knows if there's if it's still if they're still using those same stocks i don't know because I haven't gone into to the more modern times of SV40 but yeah we all have it and there's no doubt in my mind that it's just like another one of the things that the parasites have finally pretty much put into us to set us back demons it's like like real world demons
• 78:30 - 79:00 it's so crazy that someone would know this and still have this as an ingredient in a vaccine well they'll say that it was it was just an unfortunate set of events that happened because they took wild monkeys from India see I could work for them uh that's their excuse and they say "We we cleaned it up you know we started our own monkey colonies and we started breeding our own monkey colonies that were now found to be free of SV40." Um the only problem with that is that as I said they had already inoculated humanity and and it's it's
• 79:00 - 79:30 with a virus that can be spread u vertically and horizontally as the scientists would describe meaning we've all given it to each other um I think they're going to be very few people walking around today that haven't been introduced to it have there ever been a comparison of um precancer rates prev40 and post SV40 yeah that's what I'm talking about that's what I did is I I in one of my videos I did that and and looked at the cancer rates since they were you know so again what they'll say is oh well we just didn't look at the rates beforehand but the the rates were
• 79:30 - 80:00 quite low before like you can you can know what the surgical what the nefrectomies were so it's kind of an easy thing to look at because that's the treatment for kidney cancer you take the kidney out um because you got another kidney and it's a slow growing tumor even though it can metastasize but anyway um I did look and the the the the the rate has skyrocketed for kidney cancers pretty much everybody knows somebody who had a kidney cancer and that was not common no and also these protein losing
• 80:00 - 80:30 diseases which is again it's not controversial it was documented when they looked at the the areas that were affected in the kidney which with with these horrible disease that makes people lose the proteins that need to stay in their blood in their body out into their urine that the SV40 was related to that it's called focal segmental glomeularoscerosis and it's a real problematic disease in children and adults ultimately you have to go on horrible chemotherapy drugs that ruin your immune system and then transplantation if you can't stay on top
• 80:30 - 81:00 of it big money maker now do I think that that was the purpose i look I don't know what was in the hearts and minds i don't know what was accidental and what wasn't but I do know that there was intentional suppression of the truth any doubts whether or not wellunded must not be allowed to exist that is a fact and it's always been that way and there have been scientists and doctors talking about that since the beginning of vaccination it's just too horrible to believe for most people I think and then also yes you're correct it goes against religious
• 81:00 - 81:30 dogma you know especially with uh people that are like firmly on the left trusting the science and trusting the experts those are those are two things at the front yeah it's kind of a childlike situation that humanity most of humanity is in is that there you know I think most people are good and they want to believe everybody else is good and they want to believe that the government is looking out for them and it's a really it's a kind of horrifying imagine if it was true that your government actually wasn't looking out for you and that might be the one of the
• 81:30 - 82:00 causes of your decreasing lifespan imagine that if the government might not care so much if your baby ends up with no stem cells or your baby gets cancer or autism which will be outright deni I mean look at autism hello like do we how many there I don't even where to start with that but that was another thing where there was no doubt whether or not wellunded allowed to exist when it came to autism and every autistic parent parent of an autistic child will tell you this everyone that's tried to lobby
• 82:00 - 82:30 and get to the truth with autism will tell you that the brick walls and the plexiglass and the lead walls that went down were intense and still are intense and the the lying studies that they use to uphold vaccines don't cause autism are so easy to dismantle but you know Joe you know the lie gets around the earth three times before the truth has a chance to get out of bed and and that's is pretty much what happens when the media uh is owned and like you're you're like one of the cracks in the matrix
• 82:30 - 83:00 here quite frankly I think for a lot of people it's too horrible to believe especially if they have an autistic child that this was caused by a vaccine i know a guy who told me that he believes the vaccine had an impact on his child having autism and then later was shaming people for not taking the COVID vaccine that's how strong the impulse is and that's how good the propaganda was and
• 83:00 - 83:30 that's how cowardly a lot of people are when it comes to fighting against a narrative they get very scared of being socially ostracized and they they just they can't speak their mind they can't tell the truth and they'll whisper it to maybe this one guy that they're friends with like "Hey you know I don't I don't want to take it man but I have to for work." Like yeah I don't want I don't trust them either but you know sh don't tell anybody I said that you know you don't want anybody thinking you're on the bad side and we all saw the propaganda on television there's some amazing montages that people have put together lately of people saying
• 83:30 - 84:00 horrible things about the vaccinated people unvaccinated people horrible things saying that it's uh it may be ghoulish to laugh when unvaccinated people die but may it might be necessary like what well a few of us have to take one for the team it's it was just the weirdest propaganda campaign and people were doing the job of the man it wasn't the man forcing the people to do this thing it was people doing the job of the man and going after the people that
• 84:00 - 84:30 hadn't stepped in line and I think for a lot of people it's like they felt terrible that they had to do it but if they did it now I'm righteous now I'm I'm on the good side why don't you do it too man i [ __ ] did it you should do it too you're [ __ ] selfish and you get a lot of that you know you get a lot of people who they know they made a mistake and they want you to make that mistake too you know yeah yeah it would be good to know what really goes through their heads i I think CO was again it was unique um but when you talk to parents who have autistic children the
• 84:30 - 85:00 vast majority of them not only know absolutely without a doubt that their child became autistic usually within 24 to 48 hours after a certain vaccine uh but that every doctor told them it wasn't the case and then they go digging deep into the scientific literature and learn how to sometimes resuscitate that child's brain or detox them and then recover them and then they're they're they're they're actually beaten up even worse for doing that because to be because they're just neurodeiverse you know there's nothing wrong with your child they're just quirky no your child
• 85:00 - 85:30 banging its head against the wall walking around with a baby bottle and a diaper at the age of 18 your big hairy son doing that that is not neurodeiverse quirkiness that is a serious pathological disease that probably could have been dealt to at the time and should have been prevented should have never happened so most parents that have that situation are on fire it's the it's a minority that will say have the situation that you have right now most of them that's a wake-up call which is why they get beat up and suppressed even worse than I do uh but when it comes to COVID um there was the the psychological
• 85:30 - 86:00 campaign I think was was very effective in that people that I would have never imagined took the jab like friends of mine who I in a million years would have I would have bet my life that they would say no to it ended up getting it didn't want it were really upset about it later but nonetheless didn't have they read your book yes i I see I didn't lose any friends during COVID because I had already lost them back in like 2009 like my family and friends were solid my tribe is here but um yeah so did but I
• 86:00 - 86:30 still love this person and and and and she's like really upset about it but it's like it just shows you that the psychological campaign like to to to get into that person's brain was was really in like But I don't know about you but there was They didn't i never had a doubt i never I I was like "Well you're going to shut me down shut me down you going to stop me from traveling go ahead stop me from traveling." I hadn't read your book yet and I was all gung-ho to get the vaccine and uh the UFC had allocated 150 something vaccines for all their employees we were doing shows
• 86:30 - 87:00 during the pandemic so I showed up in Vegas uh asked for the shot they said I couldn't do it i had to do it on Monday uh at the clinic i couldn't do it at the UFC i was like "Okay fine." Uh and they said "Can you come back in two weeks and do it when during the next UFC fight?" I said "Fine I'll do it then." During that time it got pulled from the market for blood clots which one which was Johnson and Johnson okay and then two people I knew who got it had strokes okay in that two weeks yes well you've got a few angels don't you yeah and I was like
• 87:00 - 87:30 hold on and then my whole family got it there was like a bunch of things that happened my whole family got it and everybody was fine and I didn't get it and I was trying to get it like I had sex with my wife i I hugged my You didn't get co No I didn't get it but you didn't get the jab either no no I I didn't but I didn't get it first time around i was like "This is crazy." There was two days when I went to the C because I was trying to get it and which sounds horrible but I was not allowed to not get it i just wanted to get over it like my kids got over it so fast like my one daughter was one day she had kind of
• 87:30 - 88:00 a headache and she tested for CO and she thought it was hilarious she started laughing you know she's like "Oh my god I have CO." But we had already told them it's not dangerous for kids don't worry about it at all you know because there was a lot of kids that were talking about getting vaccinated i'm like you are not getting no for them i was like no way like it's not I'll do it if I have to work what made you say no way like what what did you think about it that you didn't even want your child to get it just in case totally unnecessary so no need to risk it totally unnecessary they got COVID they got over it like that before the vac before the
• 88:00 - 88:30 vaccine but this is before the vaccine so after that I was like there's no way cuz there was pressure from their friends to get vaccinated i was like you're not getting vaccinated you have seven times better immunity than someone who gets vaccinated which is proof and this is just antibodies right which is and you enlightened me in your book to the fact that there's cellular uh immunity that's different than just antibodies antibodies is one type of immunity to things right that's right so uh it's that TH2 slant that we were
• 88:30 - 89:00 talking about for me with my kids it's it's like they're vaccinated but we did it on a delayed schedule because that's what my doctor recommended and we had a really good pediatrician and it worked out great they're fine but I was a wor a little worried i was I thought it was quack-ike to be worried like this is science like vacried about what about what could vaccines could do to the regular ones absolutely and the schedule the way they wanted to just bang them up like real quick and with weird ones like the hepatitis B one that one was like when I hear that I'm like what are you
• 89:00 - 89:30 talking about you're going to give a kid for a sexually transmitted disease a vaccine when they're a baby a one day old baby that's crazy and also is their immune system even working right i mean will it even accept this and turn it into an antibbody like have you proved that like you're just jabbing kids they've proven that the child the infant will make antibbody and that's all they ever have to prove what they don't ever want to prove is that when when you give like say your child had gotten a COVID vaccine there's something called
• 89:30 - 90:00 original antigenic sin they change the term to linked epitope suppression it happens with flu shots it happens with lots of different vaccines is that if you program your body to attack you know the strain of vaccine that you're a virus rather that you are um injecting against and then a different strain comes along it actually has negative efficacy you're one that more likely to succumb to terrible problems from the infection than um because of your vaccine rather than it actually protecting you and that's been a well-known look Anthony Fouchy writes
• 90:00 - 90:30 about it morren and Fouchy wrote a paper basically admitting everything um I think it was in 2023 or 2024 about these shots and he said the co shots are exactly the same as the flu shots despite that despite Fouchy and Morren talking about how these shots would never have been licensed if they were held to the same standards of DPT etc that they don't provide lung immunity they only provide blood immunity negative efficacy their their conclusion at the end of it is that we must make better vaccines more effective vaccines to add to the already existing vaccine
• 90:30 - 91:00 program it's not that we shouldn't do this it's not that we should pull this off the market that's always the logic again you c they not they never will admit to any problem with vaccines to take it off the market it's always adding to it not removing a vaccine at Okay you think it was bad let's start six months now six-month old babies with parents that are just like you back in the day going okay if you really think it's necessary because oh granny doesn't want to catch COVID we're going to do it yeah that was the logic worry about granny but you know this is the great
• 91:00 - 91:30 Bington Declaration right where those guys were like "Why don't we take the people that are vulnerable and isolate them and treat them and and care for them and not worry so much about everybody else and not shut society down because it's going to have profound impacts and they were called cooks." And that's what's crazy it's like during the the the the censorship was so rampant that prominent scientists and physicians were
• 91:30 - 92:00 removed from the social conversation because they disagreed people who are the case though that's always been it's just but when it's happening on social media and it's so transparent these people getting removed from Twitter you're like this is wild m this is so then you find out that the government's involved and the government contacted them and asked them to take things down you're like what are you what are you saying like what this is nuts medical papers were retracted i mean there's this one guy named Pradhan P R A D Han
• 92:00 - 92:30 who um he showed that there is a GP120 uh protein on the uh spike and he said it was an uncanny similarity to the GP120 in HIV and that there was no way that that would have come out of nowhere and showed up in the 2019 COVID epidemic and he showed genetically how that just couldn't possibly happen a flurry of emails went through the CDC and to NIAD and to Fouchy and within six days of
• 92:30 - 93:00 that paper being in pre-print it was removed six days and what we've got we've got access from the Freedom of Information Act to some of those emails they're he bit heavily redacted uh but that was the that was the series of events that happened with that because any doubts whether or not well founded all the things you said about the COVID vaccine uh I'm sure are correct and true but isn't it also different than the vaccine that they used in the test yes the vaccine that was produced for the
• 93:00 - 93:30 general public uh I believe at least when it comes to Fizer um they used magnetic beads for purification um which was totally different to what they did for the one they gave to us and they produced it using um oh I can't remember exactly how they produced it but they didn't use plasmids and they didn't use you know all the all the different components that were given to us I I have a slide on that somewhere that I could show you about there were two aspects of the test vaccine that were very different to the was both the
• 93:30 - 94:00 production how they produced it and how they quote purified it and what's the significance of the differences like did they do it well there was no they just didn't have the plasma they wouldn't have had the lipopolysaccharide with the DNA from the from the E.coli that was in there that they told would never get past our deltoid muscle and would be disintegrated well lipopolysaccharide actually is a transit protein that can bring everything right through through your cells into your our cells are made of it's like a lipid on the outside so
• 94:00 - 94:30 that was the whole purpose was to shuttle this into your cells not only that but the the the vaccine produced that that the plasmid part of the vaccine that's injected into you the messenger RNA has a substitution for something called urodine they call it pseudouodine and pseudoine was put in there because they didn't want the immune system to destroy the vaccine too quickly they wanted it to really be able to take hold of your body so you could have a strong response well that's one of the reasons why vaccinated people had such you know horrible time with actual
• 94:30 - 95:00 corona virus when it did come um and one of the reasons why you didn't even maybe you were exposed and you you don't I don't know if you've had an antibbody level tested um but again that's another long history thing is people who don't get sick while everyone else is have been have been accused of witchcraft and sorcerers in the past um and sometimes hunted down and killed you know in the times of smallox the groups of people that were into cleanliness there was that was a real problem for them i did do nasal swabs to see if I had any uh
• 95:00 - 95:30 antibodies i did do that and I didn't well that won't tell you antibodies that just that's a PCR that would be your PCR test or your rapid which one did you do the one that goes rapid the rapid the rapid antigen test but that's only going to tell you if you've got active in your nose what you want to know is if your immune system again there's a good use for antibodies sometimes it's not to see it's not not the end all and be all in terms of your immunity but it will show that you have had an experience inside of your body with COVID and well what
• 95:30 - 96:00 was bizarre to me was that there was this there was this narrative that you were going to get it no matter what and that's why to stop it from you getting it yeah well was this is before the vaccine was even around there was this there's this talk that there's no way to not get it like if it's around you it's so contagious you're going to get it and that's why I was shocked that I didn't get it when my whole family got it like I said I didn't isolate at all i did it on purpose and I had two days in the gym where I was sluggish and so I was like I
• 96:00 - 96:30 feel kind of tired today but a weird tired so I'm just going to go through the motions i just like really light workout and the next day I felt the same thing like yeah another light workout let's just take it easy no need to push it just got to break a little sweat never stressed myself and then the next day I felt great i felt 100% like I started working out i was like "Oh I felt good." And then I was fine i was like "Okay I guess I didn't get it." And then everyone in my family recovered and then I went from there to um a couple
• 96:30 - 97:00 months later I was doing this uh gig in Florida and I was up with my friend John Showman who's a a pool he makes pool cues shout out to John good friend of mine and uh we were playing pool till like 5:00 in the morning and I had like five margaritas and we were having a good old time and laughing a lot and uh then that night I was like "Oh I don't feel so good." But it was alcohol and no sleep and playing pool and you know and big shows and giant arenas and flying on
• 97:00 - 97:30 jets and being tired all the time you know that's what it was and then I got sick but even then it was like a couple days how was that how close was that to the time you just said you felt a little tired in the gym that day few months okay a few months difference yeah it was a few months cuz by that time the vaccine had been out and this was uh I guess the delta which was everybody was like this is the bad one the delta is the bad one you're supposed to be fearful you know yeah it was uh it was a shocking time for me because before that I never would have guessed in a million
• 97:30 - 98:00 years that uh I would be even questioning other vaccines i would have never guessed that i would have told you that vaccines are one of the most important inventions in human history and it saved us from polio same with smallox i would have been that guy ranting off all all those statistics i would have told you that um but then I read then I read your book i read uh sorry sorry I read Robert F kennedy's book i read your book and I started reading uh Turtles All the Way Down which uh also which is really
• 98:00 - 98:30 interesting because they wrote another book called Turtles All the Way Down and someone else published it that has almost the identical cover and that book is a provaccine book nice like they literally hijack they're like "What do we do?" Well this is what we do we [ __ ] confuse the [ __ ] out of people make one with the exact same cover exact same cover exact same name wow and they made it a pro vaccine book it's kind of wild i mean it's really kind of ingenious like what a great way to like flood the market with [ __ ] and um the RFK Jr book was bananas i mean I
• 98:30 - 99:00 people had told me to read it and my initial Fouchy book yes my initial thought was that's that guy that's like that antivaccine cook that's what I thought and I've apologized to him for that when when I talked to him on the podcast i I said to him I said I I succumbed like everybody else did to that the casual narrative what's the casual narrative oh that RFK guy's a k talks weird got a weird voice he's ruining the world's immunity well I had
• 99:00 - 99:30 the same thing like you know when I was first waking up I had a friend who had unvaccinated kids they were part of a Steiner school and they were like mutant freaks to me because they had never been on an antibiotic they were like bright and happy and interactive and talented and um at one point one of them was playing with a hammer and nail and I said to her mother I was like "You got to be careful because she doesn't have a tetanus vaccine." And someone in the room said "Well Suzanne what do you know about tetanus?" And like in my head I'm I'm a full-fledged doctor at this point i thought "I don't know anything about
• 99:30 - 100:00 tetanus." And outside I said "I know you don't want to get it and I know it'll cause lock jaw." And then I started reading about tetanus and I had to go back and you know kind of apologize and then I did a big video i have a big video out on tetanus and the actual truth about the tetanus vaccines and actual tetanas which you know that's even harder for most people like most people who don't want to vaccinate their kids they'll vaccinate for tetanas if they can get a single shot and second only to polio everybody's got their two vaccines at their their two diseases they're afraid of for their kid that makes them feel like they're at least doing something well the polio one
• 100:00 - 100:30 always gets thrown in my face yeah they say it all all the time right about polio yeah and I just go I don't have the time to do this thank you read the book read the book i just I to to explain to someone the whole DDT connection and the fact that livestock was getting polio like this is the thing like polio dogs don't get polio they don't get human derived polio it doesn't cross species but they were getting paralytic polio symptoms because they were getting poisoned by
• 100:30 - 101:00 DDT right that was a big part of the whole thing that was very confusing well they started killing dogs you know in in New York um in that incident I told you about where the the vaccine the gain of function uh strain escaped people were throwing their cats out the window some 20,000 cats in New York City were killed during that time god because they there was a belief that cats spread the disease oh my god jesus Christ that's so crazy and it was all a mutant man-made virus the man-made virus
• 101:00 - 101:30 thing is was a wound up virus wound up wound up by it was a basically a natural virus that got kind of wound up by so man-made to the final form that that's just crazy that that's a thing that we do because if this gain of function research was so important wouldn't you have a cure like ready like if you've been studying this for so long but didn't they but it didn't didn't really cure it right oh you know I mean wouldn't you have something that like stops it dead in its tracks you're not allowed to cure it look um I was living in a country where um the government
• 101:30 - 102:00 said there's no cure for co COVID there is no treatment for it and there is no prevention for it except a vaccine and lo and behold we found out that there was a contract between the government and the pharmaceutical industry to have the emergency use of the vaccine trial on on the population um only under the condition that there is no other treatment available and that's why the treatments were shut down right because emergency use there has to be no other treatment available if you have ivormectin or if you have zinc and all
• 102:00 - 102:30 the other things that we used with success um you know there were so many people that I treated that should have been dead I gave COVID to a 95year-old woman who had chronic lung disease called bronchiacttois she should have been the lowhanging fruit I was starting to feel a little bit unhappy one really just sluggish like you mentioned and when I was done seeing her she goes I just want to give you a hug and she came over and I was going oh no and after about three days I was like I've definitely got it i tested and I I rang her daughter and I said I've got to tell
• 102:30 - 103:00 you I was exposed Margie was exposed to blah blah blah and she's like yeah mom's not feeling so good right now um and then two weeks later I thought I've got to call back again i've got to make sure this lady's okay she said "Oh no mom's out at the hairdresser getting her hair done." Two weeks later I still wasn't recovered two weeks later she was out getting her hair done was she a smoker she probably used to i don't know if she can't remember that detail but there was my senior partner had leukemia he should have been absolute absolutely dead well not on my watch he wasn't going to be dead so he'd survived the entire thing
• 103:00 - 103:30 and died like two years later of something else so yeah the most shocking aspect of uh getting attacked and like all the CNN stuff to me was that no one had any interest in why I recovered so quickly because if this is supposed to be this death sentence and there's no treatment and then I'm a guy in my 50s and I I got over it quick and then no one cared at all about that all they wanted to do is mock this idea that I was taking veterinary medicine right
• 103:30 - 104:00 which I wasn't but it was just the fact that they use that term horse dewormer on every TV show on like wow this is it's wild to watch the machine it's uniquely wild when it's coming after you and you're like but this is like such a dumb checker play I'm like this is so stupid I'm still doing my podcast you [ __ ] idiots and like everyone's going to know that you put a green filter over my face I'm going to show everybody that you think you're just going to get away with that no you're going to like lose
• 104:00 - 104:30 all of your credib ility you idiots it was just so fascinating to watch like this distorted understanding of like what America is willing to believe or the world is willing to believe like you're only preaching to the converted the super hardcore closed-minded converted people everyone else knows you guys are a joke now and that's the good part of getting through co the good part of this enormous gaslighting experience
• 104:30 - 105:00 that we all just went through where people are finally after four years apologizing to friends you know for calling them a plague rat you know like like literally they it got down to that where friends couldn't be friends with people anymore because they weren't vaccinated and people are kind of like realizing like oh my god not only did I get COVID more than anybody else because I got three shots like I had a friend tell me this he goes I got CO more than everyone I know and I had all three
• 105:00 - 105:30 shots mhm he's like I got CO eight [ __ ] times and we were like how many times did you get it and everybody that got it naturally was like I got it once maybe I got it i got it twice but the second time I got it it was literally a sniffy nose just literally a sn and I was joking because we used to test everyone including the um the guests everyone had came here we tested for CO and uh I was joking I'm like maybe this is it maybe I got it again and she's like you actually got it I was like no way this is COVID and it never got worse
• 105:30 - 106:00 it stopped right there it was that was it one day one day of a sniffly nose and then a couple days later I said all right let's try and get tested again see if we can still do another podcast and I was good but I had have to have a healthy immune system that but the fact that that's the thing it's like there's real science behind all the things you talk about in your book in terms of like the the um nutritional aspects of
• 106:00 - 106:30 healthy foods being an important factor in your immune system healthy we were talking about juices and vegetable juices and all the different times that it's helped people overcome certain diseases and vitamin A and cod liver oil which also has vitamin A which was always prescribed to people that were sick like all these things are this is real science like there's real science in nutritional supplementation and the effects that it has on the immune system and there's a real science in nutritional deficiencies and what a negative impact it has this is all real
• 106:30 - 107:00 and if they truly cared about you they would be telling you about that as a primary way of defending your body against disease and against all sorts of things that could go wrong all sorts of things like get fit eat healthy and you're above everything take supplements you're above everything like you're in the top 1% of people that are going to do great in life when it comes to getting sick just that and because most people don't do that so you have like what percentage of people like really eat healthy and really try to exercise
• 107:00 - 107:30 on a regular basis is it even 10 is it even 10% of us i don't it depends i get maybe what state you live in let's just let's just have a guess nationwide and see if there's a chart see if there's a statistic let's guess what percentage of people eat healthy take vitamins and exercise regularly i say 10% what do you think yeah it could be because you still got your teenagers and your young you college students that are in sports and
• 107:30 - 108:00 things like that a lot of older people they would qualify yeah but a lot of people like you know even though they have a hard job they still realize like I got to go to the gym before work and just just get it in because if I don't I won't have any energy i'm better off this way i know it sucks but just do it there's like people that have enough discipline to do that so I would give it I think it's one out of 10 that's what I think what do we got Jamie i mean as is impossible it's a little bit impossible what about AI run that [ __ ] through chat well I'm just you're How are you going to get the answers my my point not
• 108:00 - 108:30 like% of Americans people have to honestly answer the the question in a poll that they're you know well let's ask Chat GP just for Google i just I'm my point Chat GBT has to find the answer somewhere right but let's see what she says well okay well hold on let's just for funsies let's just say I know right out of the gate the answer is that 86% people take vitamins and supplements which is four in five American adults is that real that's good if that's true that's really good i wouldn't think that's true though i don't buy that that's what I'm trying to say yeah i
• 108:30 - 109:00 don't buy that that's that's written by a supplement company yeah and what supplements and how you know sometimes you can overdo you do a hair mineral analysis on people and sometimes you find things that are you know pretty shocking in terms of that came from supplements you know you you can overdo it with even selenium sure you can end up with big problems so there's also a problem with crosscontamination um we one of the things that we found out when we were selling AlphaBrain is that uh in the beginning when we would hire a lab to um make the formula for us like so
• 109:00 - 109:30 you you have like a list of ingredients and then they they put together this thing which is a neutropic they we'd find stuff in there that we didn't have in there and it was from their bins so they didn't clean their bins so it's like why is vitamin B12 in this like why is this and that why is that and it's just because it's the same factory manufacturing place where they make all kinds of stuff creatine and say how I got the answer but it says less than 10% okay likely less than 10% okay if you're
• 109:30 - 110:00 talking about people who consistently do all three it drops significantly less than 10% maybe even closer to 3 to 5% depending on how strict your definition of healthy is yeah that's so that's what I was that was a good guess we're talking about adults here presumably but you know one of the facts is that the foundation that your immune system is is created and developed in is probably if not as more important than that and that is being born the vaginal birth versus a
• 110:00 - 110:30 C-section not putting down people who have had C-section i'm just saying the science the science shows that there is a distinct difference in C-section babies immune systems versus nonse-section there's a distinct difference in breastfed babies versus non- breastfed and there's a distinct difference in babies whose mothers have a healthy diet and breastfeed versus mothers who don't have a healthy diet and breastfeed so that foundation actually makes your gut grow normally which is a large part of your immune system it colonizes your gut
• 110:30 - 111:00 because the bacteria from your mother's gut goes into your gut goes in from her gut through her lymph system into her breast and then into your gut and so all that foundational stuff is something not to be ignored because it's going to make you deal with diseases better and if you have to get vaccinated it's going to make you deal with vaccines better even as a child not that I'm in favor of that but I'm just saying if you want to set things up as you know solidly as possible to be able to take that insult the problem is we don't know 20 30 40 years later what the associations are between you know bone diseases skin
• 111:00 - 111:30 diseases cancers autoimmune diseases we have some clues i have some clues that nobody wants to look at but we've got this long-term problem that nobody looks at long-term effects of lifestyle of vaccination of even SV40 there was one study that started tracking a thousand SV40 people that they knew were infected with SV40 looking for diseases later in life and they stopped it after 19 years again axed when they still had over 700
• 111:30 - 112:00 people left in the study because they said too much time had gone by well the fact of the matter is that's when the study should have started 17 to 20 years later is when they sort of started looking at that point not one year two years but you know most vaccine trials and drug trials they don't they don't vaccine trials it's like two weeks is almost a miracle for someone to follow out that long forget about looking months or years later doesn't happen when you first decided to write this book how much apprehension did you have zero zero you were just fully convicted
• 112:00 - 112:30 to get this idea out well you know it was a bit of a process if you want to know it yeah sure yeah uh so what first happened is that I kept getting challenged while I was I stayed on for two years as a nephrologist in my hospital so I wasn't kicked out i left because like my soul just couldn't hang out there anymore and um so during that time even though I was kind of ostracized behind my back everybody still respected me as a nephrologist but I still had to go and in that in that time I started doing public appearances
• 112:30 - 113:00 like I went on the Gary Null show and started doing things like that just talking about smallox and polio because those were my focus because everyone's saying what about smallox what about polio and then when I started finding out I just I became obsessed with it it was so interesting so I was morbidly fascinated by the whole thing and about how everything I found was absolutely contrary to what the mainstream dogma is and what I had was a mountain that you know pile high to the ceiling and they had sound bites they had nothing to fight back with me on nothing um so um
• 113:00 - 113:30 this guy named Roman Bistranic heard me on the radio show and he he rung my office and after his third call I was like I guess I better call this guy back and um and he had this idea for a book and he had done all the charts and the graphics and um started writing the narrative around that of of what the historical document showed and then I came in as kind of the medical person that was obsessed with polio and smallox and happened to know quite a bit about pertasus so we started writing the book together and there's probably about
• 113:30 - 114:00 there's got to be if you were to take a full-time job 20 years at least 20 years but for me it was condensed because I became obsessed after I quit my job all I did I basically I had no money i lived in a tent with a pop-up camper that was my office and I was like crazy Ted Kazinski obsessed with polio in my tent and um Wow so no I didn't have apprehension i was like this information it has been so that the US polio surveillance unit charts were supposed to be available in libraries lo and
• 114:00 - 114:30 behold every library I went to to find them I was told they're not here there's only one library the AMA library and you have to have special high security clearance to look at them well I won't say how but I got a hold of them and what those documents show is that it wasn't just Cutter Laboratories that had a problem with live polio it wasn't just Wyth all the vaccine we didn't talk about this but all the vaccine companies had a problem with live virus in their injectable vaccines during SulkQ's year so 1954 1955 up to 1959 they all were
• 114:30 - 115:00 producing vaccine with live virus in it because Sulk wouldn't listen to the scientists abroad who were saying his inactivation curve was where the sun doesn't shine so um that beginning of that and just tracking all that down and track asking the questions that you asked well where did polio go or you know what was really causing the paralysis why don't we see it today like I had to answer all those questions and every question I answered was it was so satisfying that I just wanted to go on to the next question and so there was never any hesitation
• 115:00 - 115:30 because I just actually I was so single-minded that I didn't think about you know the the threats that could happen as a result of that and it wasn't until the after the book was out that the threats happened and I'm still here and um look I figure if anybody wants to do me in now the timing is really bad because this pretty much out there now it's been out there for a while um the Jonas Sulk thing was also wild i thought Jonas Hulk was this genius that created this incredible virus that saved humanity yeah so did I
• 115:30 - 116:00 so many of our childhood fables turn out not to be true uh but that was a big one and um it's still hard for a lot of people to believe but I I just think it's like anything like if you're open to different information and and I always say look I am I may I can make mistakes i'm not infallible some someone has actually found a mistake in the book i actually went in and corrected it like that's the difference between me and these other people is that if I made a mistake I want to know about it and I will go and make it right and I will
• 116:00 - 116:30 publicly admit that I made a mistake but I will say that 99.9% of what in this book what's in this book is true factual and provable and because I've done the research but it's a hard thing to do what doctor is going to quit their job and I was lucky i didn't have kids i didn't have you know medical royalty ancestors who would have been disappointed in me i came from nothing i wasn't afraid to go back to nothing and so that's why I was willing to live in a tent until this thing was done and um published in 2013 uh so how long did it take you i
• 116:30 - 117:00 started working on it roman had been working on it for years he had been going to libraries cuz his kids got hit hard by an ex-wife who who jabbed them um he didn't know about it and they got really sick and then he started looking at old graphs and going "Oh that doesn't make sense." So he got obsessed in his own way with the numbers he's the numbers guy and um so he'd been working on it and then the two of us together worked on it probably from 2009 to 2013 um and then it was published in
• 117:00 - 117:30 2013 we couldn't find a publisher um even the alter alternative publishers didn't want anything to do with it so we self-published and then after it was successful guess who wanted to publish our book and I was like "Nope sorry we're gonna carry on the way we are." Oh but you're going to get such more credibility it's like unlikely that's funny we did okay if you give us money you'll get credibility take a part of your successful business that you've worked on for five years or four years we'll give you $1 a book that would be sweet what a great deal and
• 117:30 - 118:00 then I'll have uh prestige behind my name yeah i've been published by a real company when was the last time you looked at a book and said "Let me check who published this." Exactly fine you know maybe make sure somebody recommended this book published it's all lies i've never heard of this publisher this is outrageous what's that there forbidden Science oh Jacqu Valet okay jacqu Valet is uh probably the most interesting UFO researcher that I've ever talked to he's the guy that was you
• 118:00 - 118:30 remember the French scientist do you remember Close Encounters of the Third Kind did you see that movie long time ago but long time ago do you remember there's a French scientist on the ground that's coordinating with with the army and explaining to everybody what's going on okay that French scientist is modeled after this guy this guy's been following UFOs since like the 50s or the 60s did you say the 50s i mean like a long time he's an older gentleman but he's fascinating okay and he's very rational like when he talks about it it's like he
• 118:30 - 119:00 is very objective in what's nonsense and what's true and what we can't explain it's it's a fascinating subject i think similar threads would run through his experience definitely oh science yeah well it's for the longest time it was a ridiculed subject not it didn't have the same societal impact as being a vaccine skeptic or a v an antivaxer right like by with that projorative they've done an incredible job of scaring people into
• 119:00 - 119:30 just falling in line because if you question it and someone said "Oh did you know he's an antivaxer right that's enough that's it that's all you need to hear." And you're going to get it after this podcast and I've already gotten it you're going to get it big time i've gotten it already um they'll start picking apart my facts and they'll want to come on and dismantle this is what always happens i come in first i tell my story and then they bring in the experts who are able to take without me being in the room of course because I can't be able to defend myself and then let the public believe that everything I said was just one big sack of lies well
• 119:30 - 120:00 they'll definitely be the usual suspects that'll be doing that but has anyone ever tried to sit down with you and have a conversation publicly about this and refute it not that I can recall no one's offered yeah i I have to say I'm not that interested in in doing that because I just feel like you know debate is it's an actual skill to be a debater people study debate and people get really good at it and I'm I'm not a debater like I
• 120:00 - 120:30 put if somebody wanted to debate me in writing I would be happy to do that because then I could sit there and take my time you know go through the the references that I needed rather than having to you know Right that makes sense have the artillery ready you know at me without having a shield pretty much and there's an anxiety aspect to that and like you know there's a lot of adrenaline and emotions and yeah it's a skill but I would do it only if we had a topic that was you know basically agreed upon beforehand that we could both
• 120:30 - 121:00 upskill on and use what we know as as that debate point but it usually just becomes character assassination it does yeah it does it's super unfortunate and it it's really transparent when it's some about a serious subject like why do you have to attack someone's who they are make make it ridicule them instead of just refuting the facts or or laying out your case it just doesn't make sense that anybody who's right would do that that's not what you do when you're right that's what you do when you're trying to ridicule people and you're usually trying to ridicule people because you need an edge you know it's like a a
• 121:00 - 121:30 bully they're like if you see fighters like like a like a UFC fighter in his prime like Anderson Silva one of the greatest of all time if someone like got in his face and tried to intimidate him it would be kind of hilarious because he was the best fighter in the world right so he wouldn't even have to do it back he could just smile at you and that's sort of the same here when you're ridiculing someone spec like right off the bat a bunch of you know ad homonyms
• 121:30 - 122:00 about that person you're trying to diminish that person to set up your argument as being superior because you're the superior intellect and you're doing that because you don't feel like you're on level playing field and so you want to try to do something to push them off make fun of them in some sort of instead of just like laying out your version of what reality is lay out your version if you're so strong if you're so correct it should be super easy to do well just like in sports it's the same here it's like cheating is for losers you don't if you're a winner you're not you don't have to cheat and and that's the same with them like if their product
• 122:00 - 122:30 is so wonderful that everybody needs it so badly then why is there such is they what they say is that we're too stupid to understand how they're saving our lives and how they've pro this is one of the big arguments that we really ought to touch on is that they say that our lifespan has improved as a result of medical interventions when what we show in here what other scientists have shown is that um it's about 3.5% of um the contribution from medicine goes into our expend extended lifespan 3.5% based on
• 122:30 - 123:00 antibiotics vaccines etc the rest of it was all about the revolution the health revolution the clean water the shelter the electricity the child labor laws you know ending um so you know the magic of medicine is not what people think and it really traps it really traps a lot of people like I I think there's a value to to the medical field in terms of surgery and certain drugs and if you have an organ failure like absolutely but why not like my hypocratic oath said that I should consult you know any consultant
• 123:00 - 123:30 that will help my patient and keep the well-being of my patient stable well to me that includes you know using every therapy that is as as the most benign therapies possible first the ones that work along with the blueprint of a human body that go along with the the the theory of health rather than pounding down disease you're always going to get a better result that way assuming you've got time and you know you haven't waited till the last minute well you certainly will get a better result if you do get the disease that way like the idea that you could just ignore everything but a a
• 123:30 - 124:00 medication is so silly and it doesn't The only reason why you would do that is if that's the only way you made your money and that's really especially if you're in the vaccine business and you're you have an enormous ad budget and you're sponsoring all the television networks well that's the big thing and the other thing is people trust what they see on the television you know CNN I CNN was my go-to thing for the longest time yeah and now I look at it and I think "Oh my goodness." You know what cracked it for me is when when they when
• 124:00 - 124:30 they publicly um villainized Andy Wakefield and I actually knew the story behind Andy Wakefield at the time and I was like the story behind him is that um you know he was he was the doctor you'll hear he was publicly shamed his license was removed he he published an article about what what he called toxic nodular entroitis in children with autism he was a gastroenterenterologist a very high level very wellrespected decorated gastroenterenterologist and he published this paper which remained in a journal for 12 years and all it said at the end
• 124:30 - 125:00 was further research needs to be um done in order to see if there is any real connection between the MMR vaccine autism and toxic nodular entroitis these kids suffer with horrible bowel disease it's not just brain disease and so after he was about to publish another paper showing that in this certain type of monkeys that were vaccinated against hepatitis B lost a lot of their reflexes and had problems and it was on the eve of the publication of that paper that his original paper was revoked and ever since then he has been the poster child
• 125:00 - 125:30 for vaccine um nonsense for antivax crazy people and in fact every time I've done anything his name funny that I brought his name up i love him he's a great guy but uh his name would always come up well you you're a friend of Andy Wakefield no Andy Wakefield because autism and vaccines has been um debunked because Andy Wakefield lied he didn't lie all he said is I did biopsies i saw this and this is possibly a connection and since then other scientists have come in done the same thing biopsies
• 125:30 - 126:00 then they looked at whether the vaccine virus was in that biopsy and it was it wasn't a wild virus it was a vaccine virus in that area not the surrounding area so there is a relationship between gut disease MMR vaccine retained you know virus that hasn't been processed properly because it didn't come into your body properly and disease brain disease so that's a fact but CNN did a hit job on Andy Wakefield and I remember going "Huh well what's going on here?" Because I know I know what happened with that
• 126:00 - 126:30 whole situation now CNN is saying this and that was kind of when you know the windscreen cracked for me and I just had to start questioning anything and then you've got you know the doctors that go on there there are a couple doctors i think you interviewed one of them didn't you interview Sanjay Gupta yeah yeah there was a guy before him um and some of the stuff he said was pretty unbelievable that's what the public is going to hear you know your best chances of dealing with this is to just get the vac if you don't want to get shingles get that vaccine never mind the whole other truth around that because like you say it's the
• 126:30 - 127:00 advertisers but it's bigger than that does the shingles vaccine work what do you think about giving yourself a vaccine for something you already have like you think about it like chickenpox is a disease that we all got as kids you got it as a kid probably you're kind of super human though you didn't even get COVID um I got it you did yeah so I got you got it eventually um they broke you down but I got uh chickenpox really bad and then I got chickenpox when I was a kid there you go so back in the old days
• 127:00 - 127:30 we would all get chickenpox and then we'd be exposed to other kids that had chickenpox we we'd go over kids' houses if they had chickenpox yeah people do they still do that i didn't have to i got it somehow i don't know how I got it probably from my brother um and so you have this dormant this this virus lays dormant in your body until your immune system breaks down so but part of it is not just your immune system breakdown it's the fact that all these kids are now vaccinated and the circulation of the disease see some vaccines work in terms of they stop the circulation of
• 127:30 - 128:00 the disease but at a detriment to us so it's been a detriment for measles and it's been a detriment for chickenpox so chickenpox we used to get continuous you didn't have adults didn't get shingles it was very rare for adults to get shingles before the the chickenpox vaccine came out extremely rare but since then the rate of shingles in adults and children has skyrocketed because we're no longer getting our boosters being exposed to the circulating u microbes um so now the solution to that is to give adults like four times the the dose of the childhood
• 128:00 - 128:30 chickenpox in an injectable vaccine against something that they already have and so the theory is that you're going to ramp up your antibodies and then you're going to be able to do battle if you're if your uh viruses come out again the only problem with that is that the problem is is the immune system if you get AIDS or you're on chemotherapy your chances of that happening are really high and uh yeah does the vaccine work or not i don't know but I I I just don't think it's it's just to me just a completely strange concept to inject myself with something that I already have along with all the other exipients and compounds that go in a vaccine that
• 128:30 - 129:00 nobody wants to talk about either so can you explain how a vaccine is manufactured like how could they not know all the different stuff that's in it like like let's let's talk about like how the SV40 got in there so to to you need something alive you need some sort some sort of tissue from a living creature in order to grow these things well in terms of the COVID vaccine you just needed a pile of crap actually because it's made on
• 129:00 - 129:30 E.coli cells and that's where you find E.coli so um with a lot of the other vaccines you do need living like for for tetanus you need rotten meat okay that's how the tetanus vaccine is made with rotten meat you were talking about tetanus earlier and you kind of glossed over it but you didn't finish up you were saying that that that tetanus itself you started like googling and like reading about tetanus itself yeah yeah a big wakeup call with tetanas so you know what we see if if if anyone's worried about tetanas what we're shown
• 129:30 - 130:00 is a picture of a soldier from like the 1800s with his he's naked and his his back is arched if you just Google tetanas right now and you look for images you'll get this image and so that's what we're told will happen if we get tetanas it's a sure thing you're just going to get tetanus and you're going to die well the fact of the matter is that when I started doing my deep dive in World War I look it was fought in the trenches with horses that's where you get tetanus from ruminant animals lives in their gut then it goes in the soil and it's just a spore doesn't do anything until it gets into an area that
• 130:00 - 130:30 doesn't have oxygen so you get a cut you get a surgeon to close you up real nice without cleaning it out properly and you're set up for tetanus which will transform from a spore to a different kind of a micro and start releasing a toxin that can it first starts as numbness usually in that limb it's the extreme case is in that soldier who would have been malnourished stressed out probably vaccinated for smallpox before he hit the fields um and exposed to enormous amounts of uh of tetanus pro
• 130:30 - 131:00 possibly gunshot wound or a slice somewhere and then sewn up so yeah his nervous system could have had a real big dose of toxin and nobody did anything about it that's the worst case scenario you don't want that to happen but in today's today I've treated tetanus let's just put it that way i've treated several cases of tetanas some one of the cases was a neurologically diagnosed tetanus so tetanus is treatable you can get on it early rabbit rabbit studies have shown that if you give vitamin C if you have a good high vitamin C level before you put glass with tetanus spores
• 131:00 - 131:30 on it inside the skin of a rabbit that you can prevent the tetanas from happening even if you give the vitamin C at the time of the injury you can prevent it from happening if you give it after the event the death rate goes down to you know very very low if not zero so vitamin C is a main factor but the biggest factor is cleaning a wound and keeping the wound open if you think it's a dirty wound and not to close it straight up which is why nails you say stepping on a nail is the classic because rust can kind of hold the old spores inside of it you step on the nail
• 131:30 - 132:00 you get inoculated and then you wait for it to to heal over well that you have to open that wound if that's going to happen um but you know but tetanus has been there were there was a there's a whole series of reports on uh instances where the cotton that was made for u menstrual pads for women postpartum was impregnated with tetanus and they they got horrible cases of tetanus just from using those menstrual pads so the hospital systems have also been you know uh responsible the biggest thing is that being vaccinated for tetanas is not
• 132:00 - 132:30 necessarily security against not getting tetanas now am I telling people not to go get vaccinated or not no I'm not i'm just saying there's so much every vaccine there's so much more to the story that should be considered you can have different strains of tetanus and and if you're living on a field that has room in animals you will be whether you like it or not you're going to be eating whatever is down in that field and you're going to be inoculated and have antibbody and probably cell mediated immunity against it um so you'll already have some immunity to that so worst case
• 132:30 - 133:00 scenarios you have no immunity you go get a dirty wound and you don't get any real competent um medical care for it yeah you can end up getting having a problem with tetanus whether you're not going to have locked jaw and an arched back and die unlikely today for that to happen um but most tetanas that happens is delayed onset so the earlier your symptoms come on the worse the tetanus is going to be if it comes on later generally the better you're going to do um treated with high doses of magnesium high doses of vitamin C local wound care
• 133:00 - 133:30 that's the best thing that you can do up to you if you want to go get jabbed for tetanus after you learn everything about it um everything's on my Odyssey channel by the way that's where all that because I got cancelled out of YouTube for talking about vitamin C for of all things um so everything's now on Odyssey all my videos are on Odyssey and I do do one that's just on tetanus and again medical reference after medical reference i don't make this stuff up i just report what I read um yeah it's crazy that they just kick you off YouTube for reporting studies yep yet
• 133:30 - 134:00 you can have like pornography and murder and all kinds of other stuff on there it's pretty horrifying some of the things that flash across like I wish I can't unsee that now have you ever posted your stuff on X yes lots of stuff on X yeah so most of this stuff is available there well I got canceled out of Twitter when it was Twitter and I I could not make another account it's like they knew where I was they they were able even when I was using different phone numbers and different emails I could not restore an account or you got your IP yeah they maybe that's what I used i used VPN as well couldn't do it
• 134:00 - 134:30 really then I would get an account set up and then they would say you went against standards and cancel it so anyway they must have put a cookie on your phone or something maybe did you try a new phone i tried a computer too wow but I did finally get get an account i was able to open an account and get a blue check mark but I've only got like don't have that many followers i mean I went from having over 95,000 to having nothing and now rebuild and that's they love that they love to let us build ourselves up and chop us down and make us rebuild what is your account we'll help you out uh it's Dr it's Dr suzanne
• 134:30 - 135:00 H7 dr ssu Z-N7 yeah and I only look I don't post my opinions about different things in the world or dog and cat pictures like I post stuff about vaccines you know i like I stay in lane as as best as I can so for you was the COVID pandemic was that like a big wakeup call for people to start reading your book um we we've had pretty good sales like
• 135:00 - 135:30 Roman keeps because he does all the accounting and he says we just have a good amount of steady sales and once in a while we'll see like every time you mention the book we had a little blip on it um during co every time Bill Gates comes out and says something stupid we have a big surge in our sales so they actually help us when they with their you know we're going to if we vaccinate enough people we can help depopulate it's like okay and for whatever reason our book sales go up um well when he starts talking about vaccine deniers and vaccine skeptics when whenever they
• 135:30 - 136:00 started doing that and the way the language that they would use was like when the president was saying "Our patience is wearing thin we've been patient with you but our patience is wearing thin." And the White House prints this thing that if you're vaccinated you did your job but for those unvaccinated you're looking looking forward to a what did they say a winter of Oh a dark winter yeah of death and disease like what you know dark winter was a tabletop exercise do you know about tabletop exercises i do but what is dark winter so dark winter was
• 136:00 - 136:30 one you can explain tabletop exercises that involves smallox well there are lots of them but John's Hopkins does I have a whole PowerPoint on this too but John's Hopkins conducts a lot of them um they they involved um fictional scenarios where you know there could be pandemics and terroristic depositions of of toxins and chemicals and microbes that were manipulated in a lab and then who in this in our society is going to respond and how they're going to respond
• 136:30 - 137:00 like the CDC and DARPA and the news outlets are always of utmost importance is the news outlets and the messaging that goes to the news outlets and these tabletop exercises but Dark Winter was one that was a tabletop exercise after the World Trade Center is thing when we were pointing our fingers at Iraq and weapons of mass destruction and a Russian scientist that you know had um weaponized small pox and brought it to Iraq which they never found by the way but because of that that's why I was asked to get vaccinated for smallox in 2003 was that dark winter whole that
• 137:00 - 137:30 dark winter thing that was going on thank god there were a few people in the CDC and consultants old guys the old guys with integrity that like knew the deal from the old days who were saying "Wait a minute smallox is not easily transmitted." So that's a that's a no no so even if there is a terroristic smallox drop it's not going to be easily um easily transmitted it's treatable it's not high and the vaccine doesn't necessarily pre prevent it um and so that was kind of one of the things that stalled it all out but then they did the study on the Marines because they the
• 137:30 - 138:00 part of the the exercises are we must do tests for the new vaccine they use the old vaccine the drybacks and there were lots of problems with those um military people and then um I was asked to sign a 63page uh um informed consent basically saying that I understood all the problems that could happen to me that I didn't have little kids in my life that I wasn't going to be able to spread it i would isolate after I got the vaccine so they were ultra ultra careful about this one because they knew they were dealing with something that could be get a very
• 138:00 - 138:30 bad reput reputation the reason they ultimately canceled it is because any doubts whether or not well funded must not be allowed to exist because if we were saying oh my gosh we have this terrible smallox vaccine how did they do it back then we have the same vaccine and people are getting really sick and dying and having cardiomyopathies that's a problem um and so that's why the truth gets locked down over COVID we know look you've seen the athletes dropping dead you know about the cardiammyopathies and the pulmonary emblei and and all that kind of thing um nobody's talking about the stem cells that the newborn babies
• 138:30 - 139:00 are born without nobody's talking about the fact that there are now death doulas to deliver dead babies like that wasn't even a thing before but I've got a friend that's a midwife who tells me that they are now creating a new field which are midwives that only deliver dead babies they do nothing else they didn't need that before covid was an absolute nightmare in terms of um obstetrics gynecology labor and delivery a lot of midwives that that got done and and because they didn't get vaccinated they don't even want to go back now that they can go back because they don't want to have their good reputations of 100%
• 139:00 - 139:30 of you know normal births being dealing with what's being dealt with today in terms of the birth problems that are happening because of the actual vaccine itself it cost look if it causes problems and blood clots in our circulation what do you think it's going to do to a placenta that is pretty much all blood vessel that's all it is it's like a big blood vessel sandwich is what it is and there was no studies that showed that it was safe to give to pregnant women but yet they were saying that well there's look every influenza vaccine
• 139:30 - 140:00 package insert says it's never been tested for carcinogenicity or mutagenicity in pregnant women yet it's recommended every year for every pregnant woman and every time they get pregnant or not it's recommended same with the ptasus vaccine give it to pregnant women never mind that it changes the immune the immune reactivity of the infant nobody talks about these things this is what I say when you know it's like the truth is so much more complicated than the soundbite lie the soundbite lie is what gets around the
• 140:00 - 140:30 world three times the science is settled science is settled there's no debate needed because the likes of me are so crazy and you know whacked out and you know what I'm trying to destroy the the good the good order of the the general public things blood is on your hands blood oh that's a good one i always love that one yeah it's a fun one i like that one yeah put see if you can pull up Rational Wiki and Humphre you'll enjoy this i want to see the image of the uh guy with tetanus did you find that there's a lot of them can I just see one i want to see
• 140:30 - 141:00 what it looks like when you're locked up it's an old painting well the one I saw was like a So can I ask you when you've treated people that have tetanas and didn't have the tetanus shot or did they get tetanas and they had the tetanis shot the one that had the worst tetanas had had lock jaw and had the tetanus shot does that comes up uh put in painting put in artwork or paint look at Look at that dead guy but go up to that dead guy yeah right there that's not real i mean it looks real it looks fake as [ __ ] does it does not to me bro it could be it could be
• 141:00 - 141:30 but look at he's he's clearly been in the hospital for a really long he probably got hospital acquired tetanas a bunch of kids i don't want to put this on the screen just Okay you know right but that image right there why what makes you think that that's fake the blur it's very blurry yeah that is weird that part there looks it definitely does look fake tattoos I guess oh yeah it's probably a bunch of Nazi tattoos but if you put in um painting painting soldier tetanas that then it will come up is that right there it is first one right there it's very famous that's what's on
• 141:30 - 142:00 the Wikipedia page as well so this is that you don't want that to happen you do get tetanas and there is no antibiotics this is surely what will happen to you now today how would you treat someone who got tetanas although there are antibiotics you know that you you but mostly it's supportive care until you know your therapy starts to work so some people end up if if it's not dealt to in time you can end up ventilated but again that's it's a theoretical problem but if you get on it in time that's not certainly not been my experience and so the ones that I've
• 142:00 - 142:30 treated that haven't been vaccinated have had the easiest mildest cases but so your point is I don't know i've not done a large randomized controlled study but but what's really important here is what you're saying is that even if you get the tetanus shot if you step on a nail like you could still get tetanus look the one of the tetan in order to make tetanus immune globbuline which is another option when say you have a cut and your magic tetanus shot doesn't work right away then you can get um an immune globulin injection that came from somebody who has had tetanas um usually
• 142:30 - 143:00 these are people who have actually had tetanas not who have been vac and one of the do one of the donors that's in the literature that I use is somebody who has had natural tetanas despite having several um several vaccines so no the tetanus vaccine is not a guarantee against say it's it's like a severe tetanus yes up that's right before you die they call it severe but they said it could also be caused by many so this is this is the kind of the dead baby equivalent um of you know that they use for tetanus so this was a
• 143:00 - 143:30 soldier I believe during a very long time ago and he was uh they don't even show you his wound he's probably stepped on something it can happen not saying it can't but again are parents given well-rounded information no they're not they're not told that there are actually things you can do to prevent tetanus shouldn't they at least be told how to clean out a wound right and not to let anybody sew it up and secondary healing is a thing like some people get open heart surgery and because they get infections I've seen this happen they they just leave everything open and let it fill in on its own you end up with a
• 143:30 - 144:00 big scar but they're still alive because the the infection was able to heal from the inside out or rather the wound was able to heal from the inside out what you don't want to happen is a wound to heal from the outside because then you're locking in dead tissue which is a perfect setup tetanus loves dead tissue which is why they use dead rotten meat to grow the vaccine toxoid what is it like to have your entire view of medical history do a 180 like what
• 144:00 - 144:30 what is it like to be a practicing doctor and someone who never would have imagined this until you faced these exciting actually because during my medical residency like towards the end of it I was like I just thought one day I'm not a healer i don't I don't know how to heal anything i'm just prolonging people's lives treating their diseases with drugs like I'm a glorified pharmaceutical technician i realized that one day and I was like I'm not a surgeon i can't do surgery so I write
• 144:30 - 145:00 prescriptions i do diagnoses and I write prescriptions uh so I decided to go into a field where people really needed prescriptions like if you don't have kidney function you're on diialysis like that's one of the glories of medicine like you can prolong people's lives i really enjoyed that um but then after I left completely and started studying real physiology beyond what I learned in medicine look I'm learning a lot of the stuff you're learning too you know the neutropics and all that stuff that you talk about well I'm learning about that that we're I love it actually it's exciting i've been liberated from from a prison essentially from a stupid prison
• 145:00 - 145:30 where where you where my brain was locked down and I was told what to do and how to do it and then watching the results it would be one thing if the results were good okay but the results aren't good like you we treat symptoms we treat hypertension hypertension is a symptom it's not a disease hypertension can come from lots of different things that's just one case and point so I really love being able to now have the freedom to look at the full human being and their physiology and look at them as an electromagnetic entity that has some
• 145:30 - 146:00 chemicals and and and vitamins and help them direct their body back towards the blueprint that it was designed upon and that's to me what real healing and real medicine is about it's not about being anti- antibiotic anti- this anti- that it's like how about pro-life how about we get your you know you're going out working every day that's great because you know why you're getting your blood and your lymph flowing and you're sweating you sweat you know that aluminum comes out in your sweat toxic metals come out in your sweat you create salt levels in your blood that stimulates your skin immune system which
• 146:00 - 146:30 is a separate entity like I didn't know any of this when I was a conventionally practicing doctor to even say like I wanted to detoxify mercury out of my patients in order to lower their blood pressure and I was told that that was not allowed we're not it's like well then I don't want to do this anymore because I know from a hair mineral analysis and from a chelation test that that person is burdened with aluminum and mercury and I know that those both of those things can raise blood pressure so why wouldn't we want to remove that the same reason we're not allowed to say vaccines you
• 146:30 - 147:00 know what a multi-billion dollar industry blood pressure treatment is and cholesterol treatment is oh no forget about it um yeah I mean I saw malignant hypertension after happen after a tetanis shot an adult patient of mine and so that was another one you know thing that woke me up and I was like well gosh that's weird and then I you look up you see there's other case reports and then you're told well case reports don't mean anything you need randomized controlled studies yeah so it's it's like there's frustration at every corner but um I
• 147:00 - 147:30 love doing what I do now and and I love I love the fact look it was all it's all great like I I wouldn't change anything in my life let's put it that way and I'm really glad I have the background of conventional medicine but that's like background of conventional medicine is like year one and really learning about healing and life it's just it's the very basics and and and doctors still need to keep learning but in what most conventional doctors are mandated to keep learning but they can they're told where they can read to get their credits every year you can only get your credits
• 147:30 - 148:00 from reading this and answering the questions like a good little doggy every year which I still have to do um but but beyond that when I have my own spare time you know like I've learned ozone therapy i've I've learned how to use vitamin C i've learned how to look at the body electromagnetically and use bio-ressonants and there's just so much stuff you can do that really helps people and keeps them out of a whole bunch of trouble that they would have gotten into if they went and took allergy medicines and got their tonsils out or kept on their blood pressure medications and let the inflammation go
• 148:00 - 148:30 wild in their body and didn't know anything about how to dampen look most disease comes from inflammation you know cholesterol is trying to save you it's not trying to kill you the cholesterol is a response to inflammation it's like your fever is trying to save your life it's like everything in medicine is about dampening down the the symptoms that are trying to save your life you know so it's like I look at it and I think I can't believe I ever actually agreed upon that well it took a lot of courage to step out of line and speak your mind and I'm
• 148:30 - 149:00 really glad you did um because uh I I hope more will realize that this is what a doctor is supposed to do and you're not supposed to be a spokesperson for an industry that's pretty sociopathic you know which makes some you know great strides look there's a lot of amazing orthopedic surgeons and eye surgeons and neurosurgeons there's a lot of amazing work being done by medicine but then there's also the pharmaceutical drug company which when
• 149:00 - 149:30 attached to that and to the money people they want to make more money every time they can every quarter they want to have a bigger quarter they want a bigger house they want a bigger jet and they just keep going and the way to get money is to get you to take their stuff it's not to heal you the way they really make money is to convince you that you're sick and if that wasn't the case we would have more medical freedom than we have right right because we would have choices we would have options we wouldn't be told what we have to do to protect the public you shouldn't be
• 149:30 - 150:00 shamed for getting better from some other way that wouldn't be a thing i know that wouldn't be a thing pretty crazy isn't it yeah it's pretty weird well thank you very much for for doing what you do and for writing that book because it was it was a real eye opener for me you know it uh I had no idea I had no idea the history of these things i had no idea the correlations between like when the vaccine was induced and what when the death rates had already dropped down i didn't know all that stuff until I read your book they gave you the book i do not remember i don't I
• 150:00 - 150:30 don't remember somebody recommended it okay and uh and you read it cheers to you well it's a page turner you know it's uh I listen to it in my car too and I listen to it uh in the sauna um it's one of those books that you kind of have to go over it a couple of times just to sort of digest it and go "Wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait hold on." Apple cider vinegar they were using to stop people from getting smallox like what the [ __ ]
• 150:30 - 151:00 is that how is that real like the doctors were saying that they were treating people with small pox and they didn't worry about getting it because they were consuming apple cider vinegar multiple times a day and it actually worked that's what the reports showed even today apple cider vinegar you know it's had a big resurgence in terms of new you know keeping your gut pH nice and low so that you can digest your food better which has downstream effects to everything but it's also a fermented product you know it's it's got a lot of benefits not just that but even on the skin it's like really great to put on
• 151:00 - 151:30 chickenpox and probably smallox as well but um if I may just direct people to dissolving illusions.com because if you just go to Amazon you're not going to there's two different versions of the book there's the original one that you read and then there's the 10th anniversary version that has 200 extra pages and we delineate early on what the new what the new pages what the new chapters are so you don't have to go read the old stuff if you don't want to what are the new 200 pages cover it covers um tuberculosis it covers Oh one of this one of the chapters I really
• 151:30 - 152:00 love it's it's um toxic medicine of the past all the different crazy treatments that I was telling you about and then I added a whole bunch of the hooping cough because more information came out after 2013 so we added that in and then we published a second book which is all full of doctor quotes from 200 years ago because people say why are you the only one it's like well I'm actually not the only one it's like back then this was what was recorded from doctors and public health officials which is probably 1% of what actually was said and then we have hard to find vaccination tragedies um royal
• 152:00 - 152:30 commission on vaccination timeline and then we have rare documents at the back um that has like the encyclopedia bratannica where they hired a very highly decorated well-known highly respected doctor to write a chapter on smallox and at the end when he did what I did and basically looked at all the facts he decimated the the vaccine completely um so that you can't really find that very easily anymore so this one is called the companion book to dissolving illusions and then but if you you can see all the versions and all we've been translated into eight
• 152:30 - 153:00 languages we're about to be translated into Chinese but the best um resource is dissolving illusions.com and it will show you what your options for purchase and where you can purchase the different books if you want to you know an alternative press we have an alternative press for those people that don't want to do Amazon um so yeah and all the different languages and the different versions are on there all right thank you again thank you very much really appreciate you my pleasure all right bye everybody
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