Sam's EXPLOSIVE Debate With PBD Crew

Summary

In a recent video by Sam Seder on The Majority Report, Sam delves into a heated debate he had with the Patrick Bet-David (PBD) crew regarding immigration, social security numbers, and political misinformation. Seder highlights the confusion and false narratives being presented by the PBD crew regarding noncitizens' social security numbers, challenging their stance and clarifying misconceptions. The video serves as a critique of the misinformation around immigration policies and the exploitation of such narratives for political gains, particularly in conservative circles.

Highlights

• Sam challenges the PBD crew's misinformation on legal vs illegal immigration. 🤷qua_red_hair
• Sam clarifies that noncitizens with social security cards are here legally. 🇺🇸
• There’s a heated debate over the number of noncitizens receiving social security numbers. 🔥
• Sam explains the irony of immigrants contributing financially without receiving benefits. 🏦
• Misunderstandings of social security cards' purposes and restrictions are highlighted. 📜

Key Takeaways

• Sam confronted the PBD crew about misinformation on noncitizen social security numbers. 🎤
• Sam highlighted the confusion around noncitizen social security cards and voting rights. 🗳️
• The discussion reveals the misconceptions and false narratives in conservative media. 📰
• Sam emphasized the financial contributions of noncitizens, who pay taxes without receiving benefits. 💸
• The video criticizes the exploitation of immigration narratives for political fear-mongering. 🤔

Overview

In his latest episode, Sam Seder took on the Patrick Bet-David (PBD) crew with fervor, tackling the myriad misconceptions they perpetuated about immigration. The Majority Report episode was an exercise in truth-seeking as Sam dissected the falsehoods and misleading narratives surrounding noncitizen social security numbers, which the PBD crew appeared to misunderstand completely.

Sam patiently unravelled the legal complexities concerning noncitizens who hold social security numbers, emphasizing that these individuals are legally present in the United States. These noncitizens contribute to the social security system without reaping any immediate benefits, thereby debunking claims of them exploiting the system. Sam's argument contrasted sharply with the PBD crew’s insinuations of illegal activity, stirring tension in the studio.

Ultimately, the video highlights the importance of factual accuracy in political discourse, especially concerning sensitive topics like immigration. Sam Seder's confrontation not only exposed the gaps in the PBD crew's understanding but also urged viewers to critically question the sources and motivations behind the information they consume about immigration issues.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 01:00: Introduction and Travel Story The chapter introduces a travel story where the narrator shares their brief experience in Fort Lauderdale, Florida. Despite staying at a generic hotel, the highlight was enjoying a pleasant pasta dinner while attempting, unsuccessfully, to watch a Celtics versus Heat game.
• 01:00 - 09:00: Video Analysis In the chapter titled "Video Analysis," the focus is on the experience of watching a video while traveling. The narrator recounts watching a discussion featuring Patrick Bet David and his team about Elon Musk's presentation in Wisconsin. This video was made prior to Musk's presentation, leading to reflections on the content discussed. The chapter opens with a mention of blackout restrictions in suburban areas, though it's noted that the setting isn't suburban.
• 09:00 - 16:00: Legal Immigration Argument The chapter titled 'Legal Immigration Argument' begins with a controversial situation involving Elon Musk. The video shown portrays Musk and a friend handling social security numbers, which has raised concerns and made Musk a contentious figure. The narrator discusses an attempt to address this topic on the 'Patrick Bet David Show,' noting the hosts' reluctance to engage with the issue. The chapter highlights the challenges of discussing sensitive topics in public forums, especially when they involve high-profile individuals like Musk.
• 16:00 - 23:00: Debate on Social Security and Immigrants The chapter titled 'Debate on Social Security and Immigrants' recounts a discussion or event where Elon Musk was involved in a controversial moment, likely damaging his brand, during an appearance in Wisconsin with someone named Garcia. The focus shifts to the topic of social security, highlighting an increase of 2.2 million new social security numbers issued to non-citizens within the last four years. There is mention of significant misinformation being spread by various individuals regarding these numbers.
• 23:00 - 41:00: Tariffs and Economic Policy Discussion The chapter titled 'Tariffs and Economic Policy Discussion' includes a conversation where participants express astonishment about perceived misinformation on a topic. The discussion appears to critique or analyze aspects of a socialist system meant to provide credibility. A key point of contention is the misunderstanding or misrepresentation concerning undocumented immigrants, suggesting that they were not as characterized in earlier discussions or assumptions.
• 41:00 - 49:00: Audience Interaction and Feedback This chapter discusses the process of non-citizens obtaining Social Security numbers and the legal pathway for immigrants to become part of a country. It uses the example of a person whose parents legally immigrated and went through the official process to get a green card. The chapter emphasizes that the individuals receiving Social Security numbers are legally residing in the country, similar to the speaker's experience when they first immigrated with their family.

Sam's EXPLOSIVE Debate With PBD Crew Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 yesterday I was in uh Fort Lauderdale Florida for less than 24 hours um stayed at a uh very corporaty hotel not particularly fancy but I did have a nice uh pasta dinner at the bar as I tried to watch the Celtics heat and apparently they were blocked from there
• 00:30 - 01:00 blackout restrictions suburb ridiculous not a suburb so um I went on there and on the plane ride down I had watched a video that uh Patrick Bet David and his uh crew of guys did on Elon Musk's presentation in Wisconsin now this was they did this video before Elon Musk
• 01:00 - 01:30 became you know it became clear that Elon Musk was literally like uh radioactive and the video uh was Elon Musk and his buddy going over all of these social security numbers and so the first thing I wanted to try and do on the Patrick Bet David show was to bring this up and talk about it but what was fascinating is how quickly they wanted to get away from this uh so here is this first clip of
• 01:30 - 02:00 that i watched the video of you guys on the plane down of when Elon Musk was in Wisconsin blowing up his whole brand essentially and he was on stage with a guy named Garcia do you guys remember this video of course yeah okay it was like two days ago yes the social security numbers spiking in the last four years the social security number 2.2 million new non-citizen social security numbers yes and the amount of misinformation from every single person
• 02:00 - 02:30 all of you was astonishing to me what was it what was the misinformation i mean I almost feel like we should go through the whole video this is coming from a socialist credibility socialist system that is listen i want to hear it i want to hear this go for it first off you seem to not understand that these were not undocumented immigrants who
• 02:30 - 03:00 were getting these social security numbers they are nonitizens now when you came to this country Yeah you were uh an an immigrant your parents came legally every single one of those people who got those social security numbers are here legally they're not citizens just like you weren't when you first came to this country you get a green card your parents get a green card they go through a process all of those people and understand they got their they got their
• 03:00 - 03:30 social security card i really want to see your point well the point is you referred to them as undocumented and illegal you did i said nonitizen excuse me don't say everyone here i said noncitizen correct i can't remember which one of you got it wrong i think you did that's what you're thinking but I We can play the video and go through it but I'm still trying to get to the point i just want to make Well the point is they're not un they're not illegal they're not undocumented they're all legal right okay they went on like this they kept
• 03:30 - 04:00 like you know bad what's the point so because they wouldn't let me go through it we're going to go through this video so they can see and and it it is true that Patrick Beth David never said that they were illegal but at least two other guys on the on the panel did and Patrick Bet David never corrected them it's all like this mysterious thing and in fact the guy on stage with Elon Musk who himself was also an immigrant said this
• 04:00 - 04:30 go ahead started from like 55 seconds in this this Yeah right there right there 40 40 yeah just before this guy says this and we found this by accident and this isn't political by the way my parents are immigrants uh yeah this country's been great to us my brother sister all born in Spain i'm pro- legal immigration this is not This is not political this is not political this is about America and the future of America pause it
• 04:30 - 05:00 he's going to show a chart of 2 million plus social security numbers given out under a program called the EBE that is enumeration providing a social security number beyond entry after they have entered they are all legal this is a program that was started under President Donald Trump in 2017 it is a coordination between the social security administration and uh uh
• 05:00 - 05:30 homeland security to give social security cards to people who are in this country legally maybe they have a green card maybe they have temporary uh protected status etc those numbers are definitely higher in 2024 because you had a lot of people on uh temporary protective status from Haiti because of all the uh unrest there from Ukraine from Afghanistan we had a big surge and
• 05:30 - 06:00 none of the I should say all of these people are legal some percentage of them may ultimately become uh citizens but the social security card they get literally says on the card you cannot use this to vote and what happens is these people pay in to social security and most of them will never get payouts because you need to be an American citizen to get
• 06:00 - 06:30 payouts now the ones that ultimately become citizens as opposed to going back home will get social security but the most of them don't so we have undocumented immigrants in this country pay about $22 billion into the social security fund these folks several billion dollars that they will never get payouts from so just listen to this from this and and with that in uh with that knowledge and there are a lot of good people in the system that pointed us in this direction and I want to I want to honor them right now to work in the government
• 06:30 - 07:00 today who took risk to show us these numbers and tell us what's going on pause it right there okay so can you zoom in so do you know what this is if you if you're watching this so this is new nonitizen social security numbers issued the furthest one to the left is 2021 that's Biden's first year okay is there a way to see what that number is i can read it i can't zoom in cuz it's a video but it's 270,425 that's first year pause it for a second i want to be clear they're not showing
• 07:00 - 07:30 you uh 2016 I mean 2017 2018 2019 because they don't want you to know that this program started under under Trump also to be clear uh you'll notice that in 2025 they're at um a little bit less than half of what's in uh 2024 donald Trump has been president for most of 2025 and they already got half in the first two or three months that's because the program is actually working the
• 07:30 - 08:00 program is taking in now there's no doubt there was more uh immigrants uh let in in 2024 again because of all these different but the program is getting them into the system having them pay taxes and not getting any of those social security benefits but go ahead i've been giving out social security second year looks like 590 if I'm not mistaken third year looks like 964 Y and fourth year is over 2 million but is it 2,95,000 yeah 2,95,247
• 08:00 - 08:30 and can you can you do me a favor and research and then this year in the first few months which means this is is that really 960 in the first few months 900 900,649 that is wild to be thinking about Rob what what is the year that we've given out the most uh so social security numbers out to non- US citizens can we just kind of see so two 2.1 million that means out of 340 million people living here 1% of social security
• 08:30 - 09:00 cards were given away just last year in 2024 to people that aren't supposed to be here oh wait a second what whoa whoa whoa whoa aren't supposed to be here i find it very interesting i didn't pick it up that's the first lie so now watch if Patrick Beth David corrects him they are supposed to be here they are here and they are put into the system and they're paying taxes and they're
• 09:00 - 09:30 getting no benefits out go ahead so people that aren't supposed to be here they're not these are not what is the most positive do you see how he said these are not these are not and he knows because he is one he came to this country from Iran his family I think were refugees he probably came in under if not the exact same program that these folks from Afghanistan these folks from Ukraine these folks from uh Haiti or there something that is similar in 19 he knows
• 09:30 - 10:00 this just think about like what has to be going on in your head that's why he knew when you brought it up on the show that he didn't himself say it exactly he remembered that because he was walking a line i'm going to let these guys say it that's the way I do it go ahead 1 million that means out of 340 million people living here 1% of social security cards were given away just last year in 2024 to people that aren't supposed to be here they're not these are not what is the most What's the most
• 10:00 - 10:30 What's the most What's the most All right now social security numbers in a year to non citizens what was that over 2 million so the record is in 2024 over 2 million wow that is absolutely insane so now very basic why did this happen what percentage of them do you think going to be voting Republican what percentage of them you think are going to be voting on the left
• 10:30 - 11:00 oh pause it i I listen I am not able to see into the future but I will tell you what percentage of those people will vote Republican and vote Democrat 0% because on their social security uh card that they received it literally says the words this card is not eligible for voting purposes they they did I mean obviously
• 11:00 - 11:30 you can see they don't they don't do any research they're just willing to to lie about this stuff go ahead did this what was the motive tom lots of questions your thoughts on this well my thoughts on this is obviously I mean first of all I really appreciate this guy saying hey I'm in favor of legal immigration and thanking the people that were working in the SSA social security administration who cooperated with them and said this is a funny this guy is supposed this guy is
• 11:30 - 12:00 supposedly like their policy expert they always defer to him and his big commentary on this which he has no idea what policy is he has no idea it's the EB and The thing that he really appreciates about it is that the guy Garcus was um nice to the people at Social Security Administration who obviously either told him either told him the wrong information or told him you know how to present it as if this is
• 12:00 - 12:30 nefarious that's the policy guy's response but let's see does he imply that these are undocumented people go ahead thank First of all I really appreciate this guy saying "Hey I'm in favor of legal immigration and thanking the people that were working in the SSA Social Security Administration who cooperated with them and said "Hey you're here looking for waste and fraud you need to see this." So that means that there are people in the Social Security Administration who were
• 12:30 - 13:00 realizing what was happening and what do I think about this i think the administration in power at the time was a Biden administration and the support of uh Schumer and Pelosi were very very liberal on this issue they were issuing social security numbers to non-citizens they were helping people who got here to stay here and work here legally okay right there boom right right there no no no no they were not helping people who got here to stay here and work illegally
• 13:00 - 13:30 incorrect incorrect perfectly legal now of course he doesn't met like the 900,000 in this year in two months at this rate it could be a much bigger number but they are legal these people are doing exactly what these people supposedly prepare to want which is you need to be legal and they're paying their taxes and they're not going to get their social security benefits unless they end up
• 13:30 - 14:00 being citizens which is also supposedly what they want continue on it's just the whole segment it's a 16-minute video we're not going to go through the whole thing but we can't even get through the first 3 minutes without all of them lying about this were issuing social security numbers to non-citizens they were helping people who got here to stay here and work here legally and by the way Vinnie I'll give you something here let me ask you a question so
• 14:00 - 14:30 um every state in the nation you have to be a citizen and you have to have a social security number to get a real estate license or an insurance license and Pat would know something about that he founded that vision and built one of the largest insurance distribution companies in history and guess what we would go to the states and say "Well all the person has is an IT 10 which is a temporary number." Sorry can't be an agent if you had a social security number and then they lied to us about citizenship guess what state of California state of Texas
• 14:30 - 15:00 wouldn't know you now you're now you've got this so they're giving social security numbers out to people i believe knowing full well that they're helping them hide in plain sight as illegals because you lied to a job and they and they say "Do you have a social security card?" "Yes I do i'll show you my social security card my number right here." And you fill out a what's it called i9 with um is that I think that's the form that an employee has to fill out to say that they're a citizen on I9 and so this is
• 15:00 - 15:30 the admin previous administration giving social security numbers out so people can hide in plain sight who are actually not citizens and the main goal was for what Tom he to to change the voting block in America i9 you fill that out and you have to show something so here's my social security number here's my driver's license yet they found out that yes you have to fill out an I9 but everything else they're talking about is a complete fabrication and Vivie is going to say that they're doing this to change the electorate again they
• 15:30 - 16:00 cannot vote just like Patrick Beck David's parents when they first got here and they just had a green card or they had a visa or they were here under a um maybe there was a a specific law about Iranian refugees i think it was in the late 80s that he came could have been theoretically they could not vote until they became citizens and he knows it he knows it he
• 16:00 - 16:30 knows that every dollar that he has made aside from there being maybe lacks regulation about certain practices um is a function of him being able to come into this country have his parents get a visa and he is targeting all of those other people letting the people to the left and to the right of him literally lie about these people and demonize them it was just three months ago that Patrick
• 16:30 - 17:00 Bet David had the whole H1B kurfuffle where he took Elon and Trump's side on that and I would just encourage any of PBD's listeners to look up do H1 can H-1B visa holders get SSNs and you'll in fact they 100% get it through the EBE program yep good main goal was for what Tom he to change the voting block of America right there I fill that out and you have to show something and so here's my social security number here's my driver's license and guess what i just found it i
• 17:00 - 17:30 found the year with with the most given Rob so more than 37 million social security numbers had been issued by the end of 1937 that's a total had been given in the next dozen years the number varied with the number of new entrance into covered employment it reached at a peak of 7.6 6 million given in 1942 but dropped to 2.7 million postwar period 46 through 50 okay but was it the first year the starting point because there's
• 17:30 - 18:00 only like 90 million Americans but hear me out this continues then the highest number of social security numbers issued in a single year was 9.1 million in 1990 here's a more detailed breakdown click here for social numbers was uh Rob do me a favor t type this in in Google and you'll see exactly what I'm looking at most that is why I kept saying Google it because I found out that that's the way they do their research in real time great and I told them on the show over and over again Google
• 18:00 - 18:30 it go forward a little bit because the other dude who sits on his right I can't remember what that other guy's name is okay so here we go this this Tom guys is is awesome because he pretends like he's the um he's the uh wonk the wonk and he never has anything to say i believe look this up i believe the family support act was if you were claiming dependence on your tax return they had to have a social security
• 18:30 - 19:00 number and sometimes people wouldn't get social security numbers for their kids until they were 16 and going to get a job i think that 15 million in 2 years was so that people could It's unclear to me i guess the idea is that they thought the angle on this like Patrick BD David I think realized very quickly like wait a second these are not illegals they're nonitizens i'm going to let these guys run with the whole conspiracy theories associated with it but I've need to come
• 19:00 - 19:30 up with an angle and the angle I'll come up with and because of course he had no idea about any of this before he ran is Biden allowed much more immigrants in that year than in other years they're also a little bit hampered by the fact that under Trump that number is half after 3 months that it was in all of 2024 so they they're they're flying blind here he is going to he is going to like hang on to this like number of
• 19:30 - 20:00 immigrants like Biden just let in a bunch of immigrants so it's just anti-immigrant sentiment of which Patrick met David was not born in this country yeah when they say illegal they mean foreigner go ahead social security number on their tax return to identify a dependent okay so then the title here is what new noncitizen social security numbers issued new nonitizen what is the most we've done
• 20:00 - 20:30 for new non-citizens i'm really curious at this point most social security given to non US citizens [Music] edit this out of the clip too are you able to find it do you see any of it it keeps coming back to 2024 with You keep
• 20:30 - 21:00 seeing that me too i keep seeing the same thing as well guys in the back can you also look to see maybe you find something that we're not seeing adam what are your thoughts on this so get off your phone Adam the I'm I'm doing the math here that's what I'm sort of doing right now so we we talked about last week this gold card adam have some water i will but no I I was doing math in the middle of it but we talked about the gold card last week they do incidentally when they don't know what they're talking about they
• 21:00 - 21:30 immediately pivot to something that they do know about so you're talking about social security numbers um from uh immigrants and uh let's see I'm doing the math here oh Trump is doing also something that has to do with immigrants where you can buy citizenship okay that's what I'm going to go with go ahead adam math's on water i will no I I was doing math in the middle but we talked about the gold card last week yeah
• 21:30 - 22:00 people are paying $5 million to get access to America $5 million how many people did he said that he did this like a thousand people already they're trying to raise billions of dollars potentially trillion dollars why would you Why would you pay just come in illegally go through this whatever nonsensical waste fraud and abuse process okay just be clear just be clear they're not coming in illegally again these are for nonitizens the
• 22:00 - 22:30 reason why they say non-citizens is because they are here legally they're just not citizens and the process the waste and fraud process he's talking about is literally compel them to pay taxes and knowing that they will unlikely even receive the benefits from that i'm just be part of America so it just seems like the people who are doing things right are put you know are not
• 22:30 - 23:00 prioritized people who are skipping the line not going through the door are just skipping the line and and able to cheat the system so do you know what happens for a second these people are literally going through the system they are part of the system they are so systematized they have a number that's sort of the hallmark of being in the system they literally are you a number they're so in the system they
• 23:00 - 23:30 have like a you can't get like further into the system unless we were to physically shove each legal immigrant into a computer go ahead skipping the line and and able to cheat the system so do you know what happened this weekend in in the UK did you hear what they hosted so this past weekend in the UK they hosted the Summit to End illegal immigration uh it was called the
• 23:30 - 24:00 organized immigration crime summit put on by prime minister of the UK Kier summer 40 countries participated $33 million is what they're putting towards doing what prosecuting smugglers who are basically helping to smuggle people into the UK and into Europe and it's not the countries that you would suspect to be there obviously the US was there France was there but Vietnam was there why is Vietnam there iraq was there because
• 24:00 - 24:30 this illegal immigration or mass migration is not just an American thing um it's not just a UK thing it's happening all over the world essentially people from poor countries authoritarian countries are like "What the hell am I doing here?" And they're going to cross the border illegally the rich people are going to be okay like Oh sorry uh that I just think he was illegal again uh I don't know if we need
• 24:30 - 25:00 to go through this although it's pretty funny um there's another 8 minutes on this and it's basic six minutes and they're just basically uh telling us so when you see in the uh PBD uh thing when I start to bring this up why all four of them start to lose their minds and start to yell at me it's because they must have known they had no idea what they were talking about yeah they didn't know they were showing their ass and then they panicked it's a good point that he brings up at
• 25:00 - 25:30 the end there that it's actually not just a conspiracy against the West that they're displaced people that's right that they like the and also that they're living in places that are authoritarian and bad regimes like understanding that the dynamic of immigration is far more often about where they are being unlivable for instance let's say you kept couping their government over the course of a hundred years destroyed
• 25:30 - 26:00 their oil industry you destroyed their oil industry you wrecked their economy you um you shipped people down there and like created gangs uh essentially you you created a uh market for illicit drugs that could destabilize countries and then people uh want to leave i mean that's basically what we're looking
• 26:00 - 26:30 at fascinating i'm happy PBD is a citizen be nice if he could extend that uh grace to other people it's just I it is so hard for me to understand the mentality and I should say like you know one of the things that I I I came to understand when I was down there is that the show is a loss leader more or less i mean I don't know maybe it maybe
• 26:30 - 27:00 it breaks even maybe they make money on the show although you look at the numbers the numbers are really good but you know they flew me down that cost money they put me up at a hotel that cost money i assume they do this with other guests they probably treat them even better and they got four people sitting in there they got uh a studio that's not the old studio that's not the bank they used to be in they moved the whole studio into like an airport hanger wait that's a different studio than the one you were in it looks the same they took
• 27:00 - 27:30 all of those things and dropped it in there weird and they bought another building and the other building is a big business building that houses Patrick Beck David's newest business he sold the PHP i can't remember what that stands for but that was a business where uh they would sell insurance but they would also really uh drive their revenue through membership uh like you become a member and a salesman at the same time there's
• 27:30 - 28:00 some great videos about it actually that break it down but he sold that and he started another business and I was told by somebody in the building that he's got 50 business consultants working for him as part of a business consultant uh business and that I'll tell you that building was a lot bigger than this one and so that dynamic is the show is like a way of getting his name out there and establishing his
• 28:00 - 28:30 bonafides um and it's on a private airport i imagine he maybe has a private plane there i don't know but um I just don't understand how you can be an immigrant yourself have you know I think he has like a $25 million house i'm not sure but a very you know I saw a picture of it from some article i don't know if it's the same place he drove a Porsche 911 Carrera with like uh I mean he's living the
• 28:30 - 29:00 life all because as an immigrant he and his family his parents were allowed to come into this country under some form of visa maybe it was a refugee thing i think he was in like a refugee camp I think at one point i'm not sure and he was allowed to come into this country and he wants to like not just shut the door behind him but demonize these people and these are all legal
• 29:00 - 29:30 immigrants every single person he was referencing in that uh segment are legal nonitizens in this country what do you think 1979 Vinnie and Adam would have said about refugees from Iran oh my gosh i mean they're uh younger than me uh significantly younger than me is my understanding uh but I remember 1979 in this country I was
• 29:30 - 30:00 14 and if you were Iranian or sik or frankly you know like uh like you were nervous you were nervous i mean really amazing um and just I just don't understand the mentality of somebody like that how can you sit there and it's really I think it's like for them it's
• 30:00 - 30:30 just capitalism we're just making money here and we'll make it any way we can and that's it um but it still just is hard for me to to like wrap my head around it uh all right should we play this one more clip just because the picture of of
• 30:30 - 31:00 Judge Janine um you've seen Howard Lutnik is that his name yeah howard Letic say his 97year-old mother-in-law who lives in his mansion probably literally has 24/7 care unrelated to Howard like I mean like I'm saying someone he hired would not complain if her social security check was a month late or if she did he
• 31:00 - 31:30 would uh think she was a criminal yes you've heard um uh Harris Faulner is that her name say "We're at war we're at war." The entire world a trade war that we started the entire world the entire world and therefore people are going to understand that if their 401ks crash and they can't retire you know
• 31:30 - 32:00 within a year or two or three or four or five from when they thought they could or they're going to retire with you know whatever 10% less than they thought they would people will understand it's called patriotism well here's Judge Ne with a very similar take it's amazing how these incredibly wealthy people are not so upset about uh their ability to retire enough and this is what Donald Trump ran on and he's delivering and you know what
• 32:00 - 32:30 i don't really care about my 401k today you know what not that I can afford it not that it isn't important not that I'm not at a point in my life when I should be worried about my 401k because I am but this is what I believe i believe in this man and I believe that what we're seeing now with his bring bringing in a trillion dollars in business and manufacturing and companies moving back to the United States and seeing what we saw during co when we couldn't uh we had
• 32:30 - 33:00 all those supply chain problems we couldn't get medicine in this country other countries were prioritizing themselves before they were sending stuff i should just say that um uh fortunately for us pharmaceuticals are exempt from these tariffs because about 40% of our pharmaceuticals are manufactured overseas China India and uh 80% of them have ingredients from those countries so uh this is not to build out
• 33:00 - 33:30 any industry whatsoever that she is talking about in terms of supply lines now to be fair Biden did do that with the chips act it was those chips it was those uh that slowed up like stuff for cars and we saw it with computers um but this is not an industrial policy as we talked about with David Dean if it was you would see a whole host of other supports from the government not willy-nilly uh same tariffs on bananas
• 33:30 - 34:00 as you would get on dishwashers we're not going to grow bananas in the US there's not going to be suddenly a huge ban like rise in the banana industry in New England for instance do it countries were prioritizing themselves before they were sending stuff to us it's about time we recognize we've got to have manufacturing in this country and we need to bring them to the table and
• 34:00 - 34:30 Donald Trump is the only one who could do it because he's got the biggest consumer base in the world he's not afraid of anybody he's b he's to the wall um in terms of you know what I mean say that again yeah you know what I mean and at the end it's going to help the working class and who's complaining my last point who's complaining wall Street too bad he's helping the middle class and finally I think it's going to be over this summer all right Dana we have Okay wait a second la
• 34:30 - 35:00 okay uh again tariffs are a regressive tax that means they hurt the working class more than anybody else it's just that Wall Street is sensitive to it because uh they know that we have a consumerbased economy and if you're going to um uh create that type of inflation it's going to hurt the stock market [Music] kowalsski from Nebraska says "Technically Sam we can grow bananas and
• 35:00 - 35:30 coffee in Hawaii it might be time for us to reach back to our colonies like the Philippines and start turning them into crop plantations." Fair fair the Milrind uh AI will fix the robots detective Dubois Sam got valueed so hard tim Pool's emotional support beanie uh as soon as Sam starts to make them
• 35:30 - 36:00 look dumb they resort to yelling over each other at you it would be comical if it wasn't so sad when they say they weren't supposed to be here what they mean is "I don't want them here." Exactly it's like chimpanzees like reacting to a new chimp being introduced into the cage and they just start yap jabbering spike us the great and powerful Dr oz john Miller the turning down of the volume of the shouting red face was hilarious especially after he says "I'm not yelling." It was pretty cool the setup
• 36:00 - 36:30 they had they had like little panels where you could actually control each mic two in terms of the way that you were getting the mix in there i don't know how that happened but the problem was I didn't know and they didn't know which number he was and so I kept like turning myself down in my own ears and so you'll see by the end of the like the like at one point I'm wearing the headphones here is this too loud cuz it he was too loud i mean aside from him yelling just his mic for whatever reason
• 36:30 - 37:00 was cranked up on mine and he was st sitting next to me like six inches away from me his face was so red but the funny part is is that like I sit down and he's I think like considerably shorter than me and I sit down and I'm like this and he goes "Do you want me to lower your chair?" And I'm like "No I'm fine." So I don't know if they ever put us in two or three shot or something
• 37:00 - 37:30 that's funny uh Daniel from Virginia it's called a mixer no it's not it was a dro it was like a a mixer but a distribution box as well because they were sitting on everybody's uh to have each of the mics independently adjustable is boggles my mind with complexity that means that they must have a mix minus that goes to the five of them the five seats or the somehow there's a mix minus in these boxes that are right
• 37:30 - 38:00 here there's a lot of money invested in that uh studio that's crazy and you know they may do a million views a day maybe more which is more than we do but not that much more and we don't fly in guests we're going to have Matt Dust in studio next week he's the only person we allow in studio for whatever reason dummy leg there are four dudes in
• 38:00 - 38:30 Florida with broken ankles and busted backs from all the pivoting and goalpost pushing they did yesterday well done Sam it's not easy trying to explain progressive policies for reactionary rockheads like that they really I think think I'm a communist and then they were very fixated on who do you like in the presidential election and I'm like I I really am that's when I tuned in and they were like say somebody i I I I don't I don't I mean I said you know I think like I can tell you who I think is going to be
• 38:30 - 39:00 running but I need to see what their policies are come on what's that about it's just about like how I decide who to vote for for president like what like I don't I kept waiting for what the gotcha was i'm like I don't have a name [Music] yeah i I think they wanted to say like you to say like AOC so they could just do their bash AOC package or something like that but you said McGovern and they had nothing yes who's your favorite
• 39:00 - 39:30 politician well I mean you know Jim McGovern from president he would actually be pretty good can we Google Jim McGovern oh he doesn't look pretty sexy google Jim McGovern woke Adam quick i wonder if that's the first and last time anybody's ever going to say the name Jim McGovern on Patrick Bake Davis show i have not heard from uh Congressman McGovern for the thanks for the shout out on the PDB show
• 39:30 - 40:00 dixie Savage watches on the weekend hey Sam any opinion on Sean Feain and Giannis Varafakus supporting these tariffs i was surprised to hear that i'm not terribly surprised i mean certainly from a car standpoint this is going to be helpful to uh the car companies and Trump has threatened the car companies and Ford came out with like they're going to do even a discount um and Fain's primary
• 40:00 - 40:30 agenda is going to be to strengthen the UAW and Verifakus i think broadly speaking I mean look I am in favor of tariffs as part of a bigger uh industrial plant we need much more of this from our government but doing tariffs without the supports mechanisms doesn't do anything
• 40:30 - 41:00 and doing tariffs in this way where it's just we're going to do it per country not based upon an industry again it you know like there's there's probably a list of a hundred or or 200 or 500 or thousand products that make as little sense to produce or to try and build an industry in this country you know allah bananas despite the fact that we could level Hawaii and just grow bananas
• 41:00 - 41:30 there and also to do it without any ramp up to say like you know uh under the chips act there's this country uh company uh TSMC they're from um Taiwan they came in to build uh semiconductor chips they don't have the workers in Arizona to fill all these positions they had to bring in like a thousand workers
• 41:30 - 42:00 and the idea is over time they're going to train but they can't do that because they just don't have the workers yet who know how to work in these factories because these are you know high-tech factories so the idea that you can just do this overnight without any planning without any government support if Donald Trump came out and said like we're just doing the you know tariffs on uh on vehicles or let's say like solar
• 42:00 - 42:30 panels and we're also simultaneously um passing legislation to retrain coal miners to assemble solar panels and the job's going to be just as well paying and uh we're going to send them to school and we're going to you know pro provide these support and we're we're um we're we're giving you know an enterprise zone you know I'm just we're going to give you subsidies to to build it in um West Virginia or into
• 42:30 - 43:00 Pennsylvania whatever it is that would make some sense broadly speaking from an ideological perspective I am all in favor of tearing down the fake free trade regime that we have because it's fake it's not this is not a free trade regime it's we don't allow uh labor to go across borders we allow capital to we
• 43:00 - 43:30 um we allow empowerment from corporations over the sovereignty of of various countries i am also not in favor so what Sean Feain says is really not that um surprising to me i'd also say like it's kind this whole thing with tariffs is kind of avoidance of the real issue with our competitiveness byd the car company that you're going to hear more and more about because they're out competing us it it was given $2.1
• 43:30 - 44:00 billion in subsidies from the Chinese state two years ago of course of course we have to be spending investing in things that matter for the next century and here's the problem is that the story these guys like to tell is that government has no role in this exactly and when they see um industries outpace us because they've been supported by government because the fact of the matter is and this is going
• 44:00 - 44:30 to come as a shock to a lot of these people the pursuit of profit is not sometimes it can be in the best interest of society but not always i don't know what the percentage breakdown is i would say it's much less than I think we give it credit for if you ever talk to somebody who's like uh who does uh like VC work in the
• 44:30 - 45:00 medical field they have all these stories of these amazing medical uh devices or uh drugs but they're just not profitable so they don't invest in them number 13 do you think there's no possibility the military gets too concerned about Trump's behavior don't they swear to the Constitution i mean we'll see i don't know i'm not in favor of a military coup i should just go on record saying that i'm against a
• 45:00 - 45:30 military coup i But I think uh the this reality show that we're going through uh is um I'd be more worried about corporations personally tim Pool fan Sam I think your PBD episode was even more painful to watch than your Jubilee episode you know the funny thing is is that like I'm going back to the airport i'm in the car and I'm going like there were four guys talking over me the whole time and it never really
• 45:30 - 46:00 occurred to me during the the that being in there like "Hey wait a second i should call this out." Like it just sort of like that's what's going on in my head most of the time anyways it just happened to be embodied but I was like I wonder what would happen if I invited Patrick Beck David on this show and had him sitting in this studio and we had to like walk him through stuff like there is a big advantage and and and frankly like when we have guests on I try to
• 46:00 - 46:30 uh I try and do my best to be fair about it there is a big advantage when you're asking all the questions there's a bigger advantage if you have four people who are talking over the person you've asked the questions of when they try to respond to it but even with that said I feel like they should be embarrassed by what happened in that studio not just by their own behavior but by how I uh um countered everything they had to say
• 46:30 - 47:00 that was even remotely substantive they got me on the I couldn't pick a uh presidential candidate uh company towny waiting for the crash was so boring so we just caused a crash it'sn't all right five more of these vermont Ben has trickle down economics ever worked for workingclass people i've been hearing it my entire uh 33 years on this planet but I keep getting caught in recessions and
• 47:00 - 47:30 bailouts for corporations no correct i walked them through that Kansas situation and they were they just had nothing to say davy Hill Davy Davy Hellbender did Patrick's dad work for the Shaw i don't know i wouldn't imagine that he's in there until 1989 i think he was Christian i think that was that was part of it phineas Herb the next time Trump orders the
• 47:30 - 48:00 military and protesters does someone say no i don't know i don't know the massive network audio most likely like rednet or something i don't know what that means look into it all right two more official penguin rep rickettts has the advantage rickettts is popular with independents in Nebraska advantage to Osborne is state Republicans are sliding further right while people within the
• 48:00 - 48:30 state are growing tired of the constant culture war and the final IM of the [Applause] weeks Darwin most important to impose tariffs with no preparation for them while slashing the social safety net amounts to shock doctrine tactics i suspect we're going to be talking more about that in the uh
• 48:30 - 49:00 weeks and months to come we'll see hey folks don't forget to hit the subscribe button and check out our daily show we do it every day at 12:00 p.m eastern for about 2 and a half hours we even take phone calls you should check that out