'Burqas OFFENSIVE To British Culture' | Reform UK's Sarah Pochin On Zia Yusuf Resignation

Summary

TalkTV hosts an enlightening discussion with Reform UK’s MP Sarah Poachin, who sparked controversy in the UK Parliament by calling for the banning of the burka, citing it as misogynistic and offensive to British culture. Poachin’s boldness in raising the topic reflects her commitment to addressing cultural integration and public safety concerns, a sentiment echoed by her constituents. Despite mixed reactions, including criticism from within her party, Poachin champions the cause, aiming to ignite a national debate on the matter.

Highlights

• Sarah Poachin ignites debate by questioning the burka's place in the UK. 💥
• The question left the House of Commons in stunned silence. 🤯
• Party chairman Zia Yusuf's resignation raises eyebrows but doesn't halt Poachin's mission. 👀
• Kevin passionately supports Poachin's focus on cultural and security issues. 🔒
• The discussion stirs feelings across media and among Reform supporters. 📢

Key Takeaways

• Sarah Poachin dares to ask if the burka should be banned, shaking the UK Parliament! 🔥
• Poachin argues burkas are misogynistic and offensive to British culture. 🤔
• Criticism within Reform UK doesn't faze Poachin, as she stands by her constituents' concerns. 💪
• A policeman thanked Poachin for raising national security concerns regarding burkas. 🚓
• Reform UK aims to spearhead a broader debate on cultural integration in the UK. 🗣️

Overview

In a recent TalkTV interview, Reform UK's Sarah Poachin made headlines by raising a provocative question in Parliament: Should the UK ban the burka? This bold inquiry sparked a fervent debate, highlighting simmering tensions over cultural integration and women's rights in the UK. Poachin, representing her constituents' concerns, emphasizes the perceived incompatibility of the burka with British values, and the security risks it poses.

Despite internal party pushback, notably from the now-resigned party chairman Zia Yusuf, Poachin remains undeterred. She points to the burka bans in 22 countries, including some in Europe and predominantly Muslim nations, arguing for a similar stance in the UK to promote cultural cohesion and public safety. Interestingly, Kevin, the host, praises her tenacity and aligns with her viewpoint, illustrating a broader sentiment among sections of the UK public and law enforcement.

The response to Poachin's call for a debate includes support and criticism, encapsulating the polarizing nature of the issue. While applauded by some constituents and even officers for raising security concerns, others view it as a divisive topic best avoided. Nevertheless, Poachin insists on pushing the envelope, seeking a formal debate in Westminster Hall to further scrutinize and resolve these cultural conflicts.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 03:00: Introduction and Initial Question about the Burka Ban The chapter begins with the introduction of Sarah Poachin, the newly elected MP for Runorn and Hellsby. The focus quickly shifts to a controversial topic - the burka ban - where the interviewer expresses a strong opinion in favor of implementing the ban. Sarah Poachin's initial interaction about this topic in her parliamentary role is highlighted as a noteworthy and bold move. The engaging dialogue sets the stage for a deeper exploration of the political and social implications surrounding the burka ban.
• 03:00 - 06:30: Sarah's Justification and Experience In this chapter, Sarah discusses her decision to ask a provocative question about the banning of the Burka to the Prime Minister. The question seems to have shocked the parliament, causing a hushed silence, as if a vastly inappropriate suggestion had been made. Sarah reflects on the reactions and explores why such topics might incite fear or tension among political figures.
• 06:30 - 11:30: Political Reactions and Zia Yusuf's Resignation The chapter discusses the controversy surrounding the wearing of the burka, mentioning that 22 countries worldwide, including several European and Muslim countries, have banned it. The discussion touches on the fear or reluctance of the House of Commons to address the issue. Additionally, it criticizes the Prime Minister for avoiding questions on the matter, suggesting that the leader's actions are considered outrageous. The chapter also alludes to Zia Yusuf's resignation, although the specific details of his resignation are not provided in the transcript.
• 11:30 - 15:00: Sarah's View on the Importance of Debate The chapter focuses on Sarah's belief in the importance of debate. Sarah emphasizes that her question was not spontaneous but well thought out and discussed with colleagues beforehand, highlighting her strategic approach to representation.
• 15:00 - 16:00: Closing Arguments on the Burka Ban This chapter discusses the closing arguments surrounding the debate on a burka ban in Westminster. The central themes of the arguments are public safety and women's welfare. The speaker expresses the view that the burka is a profoundly misogynistic garment and offensive to British culture. The recent comments by Karma about the country's stance are also mentioned in this context.

'Burqas OFFENSIVE To British Culture' | Reform UK's Sarah Pochin On Zia Yusuf Resignation Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 Sarah Poachin, the MP uh the new MP for Runorn and Hellsby of course reform. Sarah, welcome. Thank you so much for coming on. I've been dying to talk to you. I think everybody has. Uh well, first of all, first of all, I mean, I put my cards on the table there. I believe we should burn ban the burka. Uh I want to ask you what you thought. I I burst out laughing the other day when you asked that. I thought it was a great question, a brilliant way to open your parliamentary account. uh you might as well make a mark. Uh now when you asked
• 00:30 - 01:00 that question, should we ban the Burka prime minister, you you terrified the living daylights out of him? Uh we'll play that in just a second. Also, uh the the House fell into a sort of hushed silence as if you sort of stated, "Would the prime minister consider murdering every baby in this country?" or something like that. Ridiculous. Ridiculous. Uh first of all, why did you decide to ask that question? And uh why do you think everybody's so scared of
• 01:00 - 01:30 debating it? There are 22 countries in the world who have banned the burka, including as you pointed out in your question, several European countries and quite a few Muslim countries. So why does the House of Commons seem so terrified of this? Uh and why did our pusaminous pathetic little prime minister run away from your question? And I'm not going to follow her down that line, which by the way is an outrage. You're a representative of the people. You're asking the prime minister
• 01:30 - 02:00 a question. He should damn well answer it. But why did you decide, Sarah, to start with that question? Well, good afternoon, Kevin. The first thing I should say was this question was not just a an off-the- cuff question. I think I think it was well framed. It was carefully thought through and of course my colleagues sat next to me on the benches knew what I was going to ask. But it won't have escaped your notice, I'm sure, that in the short time I have been representing my constituents in
• 02:00 - 02:30 Westminster, the briefs that I'm picking up are very much about public safety and about women's welfare. And those two issues are very much um uh at the center of this question. The burka is a profoundly misogynistic uh item in my view and very offensive to our British culture. Um Karma himself in the last week has talked about this country being
• 02:30 - 03:00 an island of strangers. Well, there's no better way to start to change that than to get rid of such items like a burger which burger which is so distinctive and so divisive and actually quite a threatening thing for uh you know British people to pass on the streets or for children to have to come across in school or whatever area of life it might be. I was a magistrate for 20 years
• 03:00 - 03:30 Kevin. If anybody had walked into my courts wearing such an item, proceedings would have been stopped until the item was removed. So, um it's very much about being standing up for what is right, standing up for our culture and reform is the only party that is prepared to put these tough questions in the one place that we should be able to debate these issues and that is the houses of parliament. Absolutely. Let's remind ourselves of that moment uh when you asked that question. So here you are
• 03:30 - 04:00 posing a question to two tier. Given the prime minister's desire to strengthen strategic alignment with our European neighbors, will he in the interests of public safety follow the lead of France, Denmark, Belgium and others and ban the burka? You're here. Prime Minister, [Applause] can I welcome her to our place? Um uh uh
• 04:00 - 04:30 but um I'm not going to follow her down that line. Um but now she is here and safely in her place. Perhaps she could tell her new party leader that his latest plan to bet 80 billion pounds of unfunded tax cuts the no Yeah. blah blah blah. Thank you very much, K. I think it's a disgrace, Sarah, that that was his response. He's the prime minister. You're a representative of the people. I don't think he should be allowed to just ignore your question. But why uh that
• 04:30 - 05:00 hushed silence? Oh my god, what has she said? This is ridiculous. This is a debate that I think this nation urgently needs to have. And it's not a situation that is helped if we have a bunch of MPs who think it's sort of taboo. It's ridiculous. Look, Kevin, that was the second time um I've been able to ask the prime minister a direct question in the House. It's the second time he's replied in a dismissive way and a patronizing way. So, I'm sure
• 05:00 - 05:30 next time I get on my feet and ask him a question. I hope he will be filled with dread. But the point is, I will come back to it. This is exactly what I was elected to do. I asked my constituents before my first um very important um you know milestone of having my first PMQ to the prime minister. I asked my constituents what type of issues they wanted me to raise and as I said all through the election campaign made very
• 05:30 - 06:00 clear the issue of cultural integration the issue of women's safety due to the high number of illegal immigrants we have here in Run where I am today is an absolutely it's fundamentally at the top of the issues that my constituents raise with me. So that's why the question was asked and I defend um exactly why I asked it in terms of the house falling silent. Well, PMQs is so boring these days, but not when a reform MP gets on
• 06:00 - 06:30 their feet. Uh yeah, you certainly put the cat among the pigeons. There's no doubt about that. Uh now you said that all your fellow uh reform MPs knew that you were going to ask that question. Uh, and I know I happen to know that as a fact as well. Uh, but uh, Zia Ysef, the party chairman, it looks to me, didn't know that you were going to ask that question and he dismissed your question as dumb
• 06:30 - 07:00 or he dismissed you as dumb for asking it, which I think is very unjustified. Uh, but why do you think he did that? Look, um it there is a difference between the role of the party chairman um and the role of the MPs. At the end of the day, my ultimate boss is of course Nigel. Um and that's who signed off the question as did the chief whip. Um but um I would just like to make it
• 07:00 - 07:30 very clear I'm sorry that Zia's gone. Zia has been a tremendous support to me and counsel to me through throughout the last three months. Um and I respect him enormously. You know what? We work in a very high pressured situation. Every minute of every day and their long days um is very pressurized particularly when every other political party wants to see the death of reform. They want to see us trip up. This is a a small issue that should with any other party would have
• 07:30 - 08:00 gone unnoticed. Um but the fact that it's reform um you know everybody wants to see us fail. Look at the Conservatives. What was it? Five prime ministers in seven years or seven prime ministers in five years. I don't know what the statistics was. It got so ridiculous. They wor they worked on they worked on the principle uh not the quality of your prime ministers. The quantity that was what mattered you know exactly. So um all I want to say on the whole issue is I've lost somebody who was a huge support and counsel to me. Um
• 08:00 - 08:30 and I and I'm very sorry about that. But um politics is a fastmoving game. It's a tough game, you know, we will uh move on. We have plenty of excellent people ready to step up to that role. Uh somebody will be appointed and we move on. And at the end of the day, it makes no difference to the population of this country. They are behind reform. They're all looking to reform to uh stand up for them and say the things that the tries
• 08:30 - 09:00 won't say and haven't said for the last 14 years and that this Labor government uh are backtracking and you turning on and all their promises to the people. Well, you know what reform the only party now that are the party of opposition and in four years time we are still marching towards Downing Street. Uh yeah certainly uh you've got the momentum behind you. Did it hurt your feelings that Zia Yousef quoted that you were dumb? No, I I know Zia quite well and I'm fully aware that he didn't mean
• 09:00 - 09:30 that I personally was dumb and I've spoken to him of course I have since um you know as I say we our relationships at this level of politics are intense but um you know we get to know each other very well. I have the highest respect for him and I know he respects me. uh in terms now it wasn't I I mean I know people so I know for a fact it's being bandied around by lefties that oh well as soon as Sarah Poin asked that
• 09:30 - 10:00 question about the burka Muslim Zia Ysef said that's enough I'm leaving uh well I know that wasn't the reason he left there were fair there are much deeper reasons than that uh why do you think he chose to leave I just think that um I mean I I I I don't know but I think uh that he was tired. It's very highressured game. He has done remarkable things for this
• 10:00 - 10:30 party. He has increase the membership. He's built the um associate well not association we call them branches in reform but he's built the the ground structure. um he achieved that incredible result um not just the bi-election which he was very much a part of the team here for me but also he achieved the 677 counselors uh I mean what he's done for this party is extraordinary um and he is a wealth of information in his specialized subject
• 10:30 - 11:00 um but I just think you know what um it's a it's like I say it's a high pressurized game um and and maybe Zia just thought it was time to to turn his attention elsewhere but everything he's done for this party has been absolutely fantastic and we thank him for it. Uh great. Now uh subsequent to your uh question in the House of Commons uh Richard Ty the deputy uh leader of Reform UK uh he has proposed that it is time that the nation
• 11:00 - 11:30 as I'm saying and I'm sure you agree uh that it is time as a matter of urgency that this nation had a debate about whether or not to ban the burka. Uh I think you've made your feelings plain. Uh is there a reform UK policy on this? What reform are trying to do? What I wanted to do and I think I've absolutely achieved that is to open up the debate. Um and that's exactly what we've done.
• 11:30 - 12:00 That's you know isn't it great that you and I are talking about it now. uh you know all the media uh covering this and that's what we need to do and only reform would have had the um you know the courage if you like in parliament to stand up and start this debate. So what I've done now is I've uh put in a request to have a debate on this very issue in Westminster Hall. Um I have to wait and see if I get that uh that debate through. I will not stop pushing for this to be debated at the highest
• 12:00 - 12:30 level on behalf of every citizen in this country. People have mixed views on it. Of course they do. But that is the whole point of our democracy. And isn't it wonderful that we still live in a country where we can debate these really difficult issues and everybody can have their say without fear or favor. That's what this country is about. That's what reform is about. And all I'm doing is driving through and there'll be lots more that I'll be bringing to parliament but driving through a difficult issue
• 12:30 - 13:00 which needs debating. I absolutely agree. Uh so for the record this is what I think about the burka. Uh you know with respect to Islam to all of our Muslims the four million Muslims who live here. Uh as I say there are 22 countries around the world that have banned it for a variety of reasons. Uh, I would like it banned for the obvious security reasons. Uh, recently, uh, a, uh, a woman in a burka driving a car was pulled up and it turned out to be a
• 13:00 - 13:30 12-year-old boy. Uh, so that's just one example of why the B when you can't see people's faces, uh, that opens up a Pandora's box of problems in terms of security. And can I just say one thing? Yeah, Kevin, I'll just say one thing. Well, I'll give you two little very quick stories. Yes. Uh yesterday in parliament uh I was walking um towards work and a policeman stopped me and said thank you. Thank you for raising this issue on the behalf of the police.
• 13:30 - 14:00 You've been brave. You've raised it because this is about national security. As you've just said, anyone can put a burka on and and be in disguise. It could be a terrorist that's got a bomb underneath it. You know, how does that help the police? It doesn't help the police. But the fact that a policeman actually bothered to stop me and say thank you. And the other little story was a constituent said to me that at one point him and his wife lived in Saudi Arabia for a short amount of time. If his wife ever had any of her arms or legs, even the lower limbs on show, the
• 14:00 - 14:30 police would come up with sticks and bash this this poor woman, this western woman on the body with their sticks. So they won't put up with it in their country. Why do we put up with it in our country? Yeah, that's that's my other objection. That's the my other reason. Tell me what you think that I think we should ban the burka. I think it's demeaning to women. I think it turns women into secondclass citizens. Uh and I think the reasons for the burka uh are medieval uh ludicrous that if a man
• 14:30 - 15:00 views can view a woman's face uh he will be consumed by an impossible lust and attack her. I mean it's all mumbo jumbo. It's nonsense in a modern country. Now I know pragmatic modern Muslims uh they feel the same as me. Uh is do you agree with those reasons for banning it as well? I absolutely do. Uh I think it's um like I started off this interview by saying it's um it's a profoundly misogynistic item of clothing. It's
• 15:00 - 15:30 against our everything we believe in in this country and it literally is intimidating. I find it intimidating when I walk past these people. But not only that, Kevin, what about our children in schools that are either faced with fellow pupils or teachers even that have got these items on? That's no way one to teach our children about culture, but also to uh what an environment to put children in. And and these are all the issues that spring off from this one topic. Um, and we have to
• 15:30 - 16:00 deal with it and in my opinion, bring on the debate and I will be championing the cause to ban this item of clothing on the streets in public places in this Okay.