Eternal Security: Addressing the Debate

CRITICS SILENCED On "Once Saved Always Saved" | Dr. Gene Kim

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Summary

In "CRITICS SILENCED On 'Once Saved Always Saved,'" Dr. Gene Kim addresses criticisms regarding his teachings on the doctrine of eternal security. He dissects and refutes the arguments against this belief, focusing on how critics misinterpret scriptural texts. Kim emphasizes that salvation is not dependent on individual deeds, citing various biblical verses to support that true salvation comes from faith in Jesus Christ alone. He discusses the importance of understanding repentance and distinguishing between spiritual and fleshly nature while highlighting the concept of dispensationalism to rightly interpret biblical teachings.

Highlights

Gene Kim addresses allegations of heresy for his beliefs on eternal security 🔥.
He points out that salvation through faith in Jesus is independent of one's sins or moral actions 🙏.
Kim counters claims that heinous sins post-salvation lead to damnation, using biblical support 📜.
Romans and Ephesians are pivotal in showing that works, good or bad, don't affect salvation 🚀.
The controversy mostly arises from a lack of understanding of repentance and spiritual renewal 🎯.
Kim encourages a deeper biblical understanding through dispensationalism to resolve doctrinal conflicts 💡.

Key Takeaways

Dr. Gene Kim firmly stands by the doctrine of 'Once Saved, Always Saved' (OSAS) and rebuts critics with scriptural references 📖.
Kim stresses that salvation relies wholly on faith in Jesus Christ, not on personal works or deeds ✝️.
Repentance is crucial but is about acknowledging sin and turning to Christ, not an ongoing effort to earn salvation 🌟.
Kim uses dispensationalism to explain how different biblical teachings apply to various groups and time periods ⏳.
Critics' arguments often misuse or misinterpret scripture to support their views against eternal security 🚫.

Overview

In his video, 'CRITICS SILENCED On "Once Saved Always Saved,"' Dr. Gene Kim tackles the criticisms targeted at his teachings on eternal security. He discusses how opponents claim that his doctrine allows Christians to sin freely without risk of damnation, a point he fiercely disputes. Kim lays out a detailed defense based on scripture, underscoring how true faith and acceptance of Jesus do not waiver with one's actions.

Kim meticulously breaks down the misconceptions held by his critics, particularly their reliance on shock tactics suggesting that believers can sin egregiously and still attain salvation. He presents key biblical passages, such as Ephesians 2:8-9 and John 5:13, to affirm that salvation is not earned or maintained by human efforts. Instead, it’s a gift of grace received through faith, impermeable by subsequent sins or disbelief.

Moreover, Kim introduces the concept of dispensationalism to better contextualize and interpret these teachings, arguing that many opposing the OSAS doctrine fail to rightly divide scripture according to its intended audience and era. He emphasizes that biblical teachings must be correctly assigned to different time periods to avoid doctrinal inconsistencies, suggesting this methodology can clarify the misunderstood and protested doctrine of eternal security.

Chapters

00:00 - 01:30: Introduction and Criticism of Eternal Security The chapter introduces the theme of the book, which revolves around the topic of eternal security, a theological doctrine that has been under criticism lately. The author addresses the recent surge of videos criticizing his stance on eternal security. He has previously provided extensive teachings on this subject and aims to address the mindset of his critics in this segment, protecting his audience from being misled by dissenters who challenge his views online.
01:30 - 04:00: Explaining Eternal Security with Scripture The chapter titled 'Explaining Eternal Security with Scripture' addresses common accusations against the author's beliefs. In particular, it discusses criticisms regarding the concept of eternal security, a doctrine that suggests a believer's salvation through Jesus Christ is permanent and cannot be lost, even through sin or a loss of faith. The narrator points out that some opponents use shock tactics to critique this view, such as claiming it allows for sin and disbelief without jeopardizing one's place in heaven. The author chooses to confront only criticisms they consider necessary, remaining undeterred by overblown accusations.
04:00 - 06:30: Salvation, Sin, and Judgment The chapter begins with a discussion on controversial religious beliefs, specifically focusing on the concept of 'once saved, always saved.' The speaker acknowledges the skepticism and accusations of heresy leveled at proponents of this doctrine, noting that critics often misuse scripture to argue against it. Despite facing opposition and expected backlash, the speaker remains committed to explaining and asserting the truth of this belief for those genuinely seeking understanding.
06:30 - 10:30: Repentance and Sinful Nature In the chapter titled 'Repentance and Sinful Nature,' the discourse focuses on the doctrine of 'once saved, always saved.' This principle is emphasized as a true doctrine from the Lord God, highlighting that salvation is not achieved through our deeds but through faith in Jesus Christ. The narrator questions the audience's belief in salvation by faith alone, urging introspection on whether they truly believe in being saved by faith in the Lord Jesus Christ with no reliance on personal efforts.
10:30 - 13:00: Spiritual versus Fleshly Nature In this chapter, the discussion revolves around the contrast between spiritual and fleshly nature with a focus on the concept of salvation. It questions the belief systems regarding actions and faith, citing Ephesians 2:8 which emphasizes that salvation is not achieved through works but through belief. This prompts a deeper reflection on whether losing belief affects one's salvation and challenges the notion that actions alone determine one's fate.
13:00 - 18:00: Eternal Security and the Role of God This chapter addresses the concept of eternal security in Christianity, specifically focusing on the belief in Jesus Christ and the consequences of losing that belief or committing significant sins after being saved. The discussion centers around whether continuous sinning or severe sins like murder affect one's salvation and ultimate fate, emphasizing that salvation is not dependent on one's actions but rather on faith. The chapter seeks to clarify misunderstandings about salvation and eternal security, underscoring that salvation is a matter of faith, not deeds.
18:00 - 19:30: Dispensationalism and Misinterpretation of Scriptures The chapter begins with a focus on first John 5:13, emphasizing its significance as a verse on eternal security, indicating that those who believe in the name of the Son of God may know they have eternal life. This verse is highlighted as one that should be memorized due to its importance. The discussion involves how this particular scripture is a common reference in debates or teachings about eternal security in Christian theology, specifically within the context of dispensationalism, which often deals with differing interpretations and the understanding of scriptures. The chapter likely critiques or examines how dispensationalism may lead to misunderstandings or misinterpretations of key Biblical texts.

CRITICS SILENCED On "Once Saved Always Saved" | Dr. Gene Kim Transcription

00:00 - 00:30 now apparently uh there has been a slew of videos against yours truly on one particular topic which i find interesting and that's eternal security that's been very much attacked against so i've given thorough teachings on this but what i'm going to try to do in this video is go to their mindset so before people get deceived and then they type down my name and see my videos and then some heretic just tries to debunk me in
00:30 - 01:00 a lame way and me i you know i could care less you know so i don't really address them i only address things that i deem to be necessary but uh those videos where they say you know gene kim's a heretic because he thinks that a person can sin commit murder and a person can even lose their belief in jesus christ and they still go to heaven so that's like a shock tactic to people so they give a shocking statement to make it like to make it persuasive to a person make them think like oh yeah that is
01:00 - 01:30 shocking yeah that is believable yeah he is a heretic and it's not scripture they might use scripture but then they use it in the wrong manner so what i'm going to do is this is i'm going to go to their mindset explain to you that once saved always saved is true no matter what they say or what they teach and they're going to all post videos again after this but i could care less so the thing is is that this is to people who are seeking truth
01:30 - 02:00 not for people who get swayed by shock tactics so the thing is is that one say always saved is a true doctrine from the lord god why because salvation is by nothing of what we do now do you believe let's let me give a common sense question do you believe that you are safe by faith in the lord jesus christ and it is nothing of yourself do you honestly believe that do you
02:00 - 02:30 honestly do you really believe that then how can anything you do uh prevent you from getting saved anything you do put you to hell i mean it's not you okay the thing is this ephesians 2 8 and says what not of what not of works so no matter what you do so let's say that you lose your belief
02:30 - 03:00 in jesus christ later on let's say that you lose your belief in jesus christ or you committed the sin of murder or you committed something really bad or let's even say that after you got saved that you just been uh you just constantly kept sinning then are we to say that you're going to hell you're not truly saved by faith no it's nothing of what you do all right now let me explain it in this manner
03:00 - 03:30 first of all let's go to first john 5 13. the bible says these things have i written unto you that believe on the name of the son of god did you believe that ye may what okay you know that you have what kind of life eternal life and that ye may believe on the name of the son of god that verse is a very famous verse on eternal security that should be memorized first john 5 13 but it has been the most
03:30 - 04:00 attacked what are their tactics well they think that what you do will put you to hell so here's the idea if you truly believe not of works this might kind of help a little bit one is this do you know what works is it's truly by nothing what you do whether it be good or bad do you understand that whether it be good or bad works
04:00 - 04:30 has nothing to do with your salvation now go to ecclesiastes chapter 12. works is simply this anything you do it's that simple it's that simple now we're going to go to ecclesiastes 12. now i know your other hands are romans 2. we're going to go back there all right but go to ecclesiastes 12 and then ephesians 2. now let me make this plain they do not
04:30 - 05:00 understand ephesians 2 8 and 9. you know that verse let me just read it while you're turning there for by grace are you saved through faith and that not of yourselves it is a gift of god not of works unless any man should boast they do not understand what that means oh committing the sin of murder you go to hell if you keep living a sin you're not really saved and blah blah blah blah
05:00 - 05:30 blah well look let's start off with ecclesiastes 12. now the thing is this is that if it says not of works that means including the bad things you do in this life murder or sinning or whatever you do it has no effect now let me prove this episode chapter 12 and the last verses are actually the best verses probably solomon has ever written
05:30 - 06:00 right is that what it said every work into judgment with every secret thing whether it be what good or whether it be what evil do you believe what god says every single work every single bad work you do god's gonna give account at the judgment yes okay so this includes any bad work you do now look what happens at salvation though okay ephesians 2 8 and 9. so god will bring all these works into
06:00 - 06:30 judgment but what happens with the saved christian is that those works are on those works are unaccounted for when god judges them with hell fire for salvation that's out of the picture at the judgment the ephesians chapter 2 verse 8 and 9 for by grace are you saved through faith and that what not of yourselves see nothing you do nothing you do it is the gift of god not of what works see
06:30 - 07:00 do you get it now so look i really mean what you say well uh it excludes the excludes when a person first believed in jesus but later did not believe in jesus anymore well ecclesiastes 12 says what every every work and the ephesians 2 combined that says not of works so every single bad work or good work it's out of the picture do you understand do you
07:00 - 07:30 understand now go to romans 2. this is why they think it's shocking the shocking thing to them is this is that well then you're saying so then they'll use a very extreme example of a pedophile rapist or a mass murderer etc you're saying that this guy who says well i believe jesus is god who died buried and resurrected so then i can go to heaven i cannot i mean that's too hard to swallow so this is what you can do all right which might shock them and
07:30 - 08:00 they're not using their heads we agree what but you just you just contradicted yourself no here's the idea okay go to romans chapter 2. there's a thing that they do not understand we believe in a doctrine called repentance now whenever i use this doctrine of repentance it seems to solve the problem with muslims and catholics who have a very big issue with osas so whenever you use the doctrine of repentance it pretty much solves
08:00 - 08:30 everything here so look at romans chapter 2 we believe that concerning your sinful condition that you should be under conviction over that that there should be a mindset a change of mind where from your sinful nature it turns to jesus christ and jesus christ what does he do he gets rid of the old man by putting a new man inside you and this is all within a
08:30 - 09:00 spiritual context spiritually the uncleanness where the old nature affects you spiritually is gone it's eliminated he puts a new nature now the that's a totally different doctrine now the outward shell of the old man is a different story but i'm not going to get there i just got to make things simple go to romans 2. romans chapter 2 verse 4 or despises thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and long-suffering not knowing that the goodness of god
09:00 - 09:30 leadeth thee to what repentance what is this repentance the opposite of it is verse 5 but after thy what if they don't repent this is their nature that god hates that damns them but after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasuriest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of god so if that guy says i just want to commit pedophilia and just rape and commit a bunch of murder and i believe in jesus christ
09:30 - 10:00 god's going to reject that there has to be a repentant heart that this is wrong this is sinful i want jesus christ to get rid of it by what putting a new nature inside me now here's the thing over here okay but you just contradicted your health no i did not contradict myself here's the idea here how this works is when you have a repentance what can what can you do with your sinful nature
10:00 - 10:30 not of works nothing you can do about it you can't stop your pedophilia you can't stop your murder and all that kind of stuff you know why because all our righteousness are filthy ranks and guess what you might fall back to the same temptation so if your salvation bettered on that you're in trouble man so with this repentance go to second corinthians 7 9 7 10 7 corinthians 7 10 repentance it leads you to salvation
10:30 - 11:00 with this repentance there's nothing you can do about it with repentance all you can do is god there's nothing i can do about it but there's something you can do about it it leads to belief so you put your faith on calvary jesus christ died buried and resurrected praise god and through his death burial and resurrection there's nothing that you can do about it but just put your faith on him and through jesus
11:00 - 11:30 christ man man didn't he change your life and turn your life around that's the blessing so yeah we don't uh we believe in repentance strongly we're not all about that uh oh yeah i can commit murder soon and stuff like that and i just believe in jesus and i get a quick way card no we we don't we're not those kind of people the beauty of salvation belief and faith alone in jesus christ is where he puts a new man inside you all things pass away behold all things
11:30 - 12:00 are become new where you still struggle with the same sins or even commit worse sins yes that's possible all right you know why because the reason why is because jesus didn't change your flesh he only changed your spiritual nature inside you so it's a contradiction so what happens is you can either grow the spiritual nature more or you can grow your fleshly nature more but it doesn't change the fact the lord jesus christ put something inside you
12:00 - 12:30 and what happens after that too is that you're not relying on yourself it's jesus christ where you're depending upon for your salvation all right now here's the idea so second corinthians chapter 7 verse 10 the bible says uh let me read it right over here it's a verse that uh we all memorize for godly sorrow the bible says worketh repentance unto salvation see not to be repented of but the saw of the world work at death look at that this is not repented of did
12:30 - 13:00 you notice that when you believe in jesus christ for your salvation it's not something to be repented of again it's a one-time thing so it's a one-time thing where you realize you're wicked sinner and no we're not condoning all these sins you have to have a repentant mind but guess what let's be honest no matter how no matter how much work and effort you try to do to clean up your sin it's going to be nothing so all you can do is just believe on jesus christ to save you and save you he will and he shall
13:00 - 13:30 so that's the idea then what about all these sins that i do in my life murder adultery and all that won't that affect my salvation no the reason why is because look at the book of colossians chapter 2 colossians 2 no matter what sin you do in your body it has no effect on your soul because god cut off your body of sins from the
13:30 - 14:00 real you who's the real you that dies is it you in the grave or you in heaven or in hell the you that's in heaven or in hell right so who's that that's the soul what did god do with the real you separated the real you from your body of sins so your soul is cut off from your body of sins look at colossians 2 11 in whom also ye right are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands
14:00 - 14:30 in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of christ now unless you're more your flesh is more powerful than god the with the exception of murder with the exception of not believing in jesus anymore etc etc unless these sins in your body are more powerful than god's circumcision then congrats to you hats off i'm a heretic now see over here god is more powerful than you won't he seal you all the way to the day of redemption
14:30 - 15:00 now let me give some honorary mentions which is so powerful that we won't turn to for time's sake ephesians 1 13-14 as well as 4 30 shows you no matter how much you grieve the holy spirit nature inside you with your sin you're sealed all the way to the right it cannot be undone it's sealed it's shut amen another one
15:00 - 15:30 is let's look at the bokeh we have to turn over here let's look at second timothy so we'll have to turn here and then we'll close this lesson we're going to look at the book of 2nd timothy notice that if a person uh no longer believes god cannot deny himself why because when god is inside you this holy spirit's inside you with that new nature you your flesh might deny it not believe
15:30 - 16:00 it all it wants to but you cannot deny god inside you god cannot deny himself he has to take you to heaven amen look at this one verse 13 second timothy 2 13. if we believe not yet what he abideth faithful why he cannot deny himself a lot of people love verse 12 all right deny him and he'll deny us but then they forget verse 13. if you don't believe then so this does not make sense then
16:00 - 16:30 does it make sense that if you deny him he'll deny you but if you don't believe him that he'll uh he'll accept you there's a contradiction here so what is verse 12 talking about they don't read the first part of verse 12 if we suffer we shall also what reign with him if we deny a colon explaining if we deny him he also will deny us here's the idea you deny him during your suffering
16:30 - 17:00 because a lot of us don't suffer as much as we should for him and what he's going to deny you of your rain reigning with him you're going to go to heaven with jesus christ no matter what you do but guess what god has a reward system for his children so that's why we're living our best form because we want to be rewarded by god otherwise we'll be denied of our reign a lot of people don't read the bible so then they're going to pull up all
17:00 - 17:30 these other verses well kim might pull up all these verses but what are you going to do with matthew 25 he might pull up first john 5 13 but where are you going to do with first john chapter 2 in first john chapter 3. what are you going to do with the simple answer to that is this that's why they hate this doctrine they hate this doctrine so much we believe in a doctrine called dispensationalism in other words we believe in rightly dividing verses to the right group of people in the right time period because if you don't divide the verses and you combine them all together
17:30 - 18:00 you will have a heresy of a messed up wrong doctrine which includes those people that gene kim's a heretic for his osas teaching that's the kind of messed up doctrine you get look at our so please watch our video called amazing dispensational truth from genesis to revelation and it has changed too many people's lives i hope it will change yours those verses that they pull up are not applied to you
18:00 - 18:30 those verses are either applied to the old testament time period or to the tribulation time period or to the millennium it's not applied to you christians in the church age and if you think all god says everything and it applies to everybody then i would like for you to apply this verse to yourself how art thou fallen from heaven o lucifer son of the morning heart thou cut down to the ground which just weakened the nations does that apply to you