Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong: You’re Being Lied to About Cancer, How It’s Caused, and How to Stop It

Summary

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong, a renowned surgeon and cancer researcher, reveals some alarming insights on the rising cancer rates, especially among younger populations. Despite significant reductions in smoking, cancer rates are mysteriously climbing. Dr. Soon-Shiong suspects immune system suppression and inflammation, potentially aggravated by recent viral infections and vaccines, to be behind this trend. He has dedicated his career to understanding immune responses to cancer, advocating for approaches focusing on enhancing the body's natural defense mechanisms rather than conventional treatments that might inadvertently suppress them.

Highlights

• Dr. Soon-Shiong is deeply concerned about cancer rates in younger people. 🎓😟
• He's observed cancers like pancreatic cancer in unusually young patients. 👶🩺
• The body's immune response plays a significant role in combating cancer expansion. 🛑🦠
• Chronic inflammation might suppress immune defenses, facilitating cancer progression. 🔄🔥
• There's an alarming potential link between recent viral events and rising cancer cases. 🔍🧪
• Innovative treatments focusing on immune system activation and balance offer hope. 🌟✨

Key Takeaways

• Cancer is rising among younger populations despite a decrease in smoking. 🚬❌
• The immune system plays a crucial role in cancer prevention and progression. 🦠🛡️
• Inflammation could destabilize the body's immune defenses. 🔥👐
• Recent viral infections and vaccines might be influencing cancer rates. 💉🌡️
• Natural killer cells are pivotal in the body's fight against cancer. ⚔️🧬
• There's potential in novel treatments focusing on immune system support rather than traditional therapies. 🌱💡

Overview

In a riveting conversation with Tucker Carlson, Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong unravels the complex puzzle of cancer progression and why, despite advances and public health victories, cancer is not retreating. Dr. Soon-Shiong emphasizes the concerning increase in cancer rates among younger demographics, pointing towards factors beyond lifestyle changes like smoking cessation.

Dr. Soon-Shiong elaborates on the intricate relationship between the immune system, inflammation, and cancer development. He articulates concerns over how modern-day factors, including persistent viral infections and certain vaccines, could be influencing immune responses, potentially leading to increased cancer susceptibility.

His life's work revolves around enhancing the body's immune system to naturally combat cancer, deviating from traditional methods such as chemotherapy and radiation, which might inadvertently weaken the body’s natural defenses. His approach sheds light on immune activation strategies as a hopeful frontier in cancer treatment.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction The chapter features a discussion with a doctor who has spent 50 years working on cancer treatments. It's noted that over the years, there was significant emphasis on reducing smoking to lower cancer rates. Despite successfully discouraging smoking, overall cancer rates have not decreased as expected.
• 00:30 - 01:30: Cancer Rates and Concerns The chapter opens with a discussion about cancer rates and concerns. A significant point is raised about the lack of attention given to the mysteries surrounding cancer rates, which bothers the speaker. The speaker, an individual who has made billions from selling companies and remains involved in medical research, is admired for their ongoing commitment to the field. They discuss the current state of cancer, pondering on the trends and observations in cancer rates.
• 01:30 - 03:30: Rise of Cancer in Younger People The chapter discusses the alarming rise of certain types of cancer, such as pancreatic, ovarian, and colon cancers, particularly in younger populations. This shift in demographic is a major concern, emphasizing the need to understand and address why these increases are occurring in younger age groups.
• 03:30 - 05:00: Personal Experience with Pancreatic Cancer The chapter titled 'Personal Experience with Pancreatic Cancer' discusses the grim statistics and experiences related to pancreatic cancer. The 10-year survival rate is notably extremely low, almost non-existent, especially in advanced stages of the disease. The common understanding is that survival is often measured in months rather than years. This information is partly based on personal observations and experiences with the disease.
• 05:00 - 06:30: Increasing Cancer Rates in Young People The chapter discusses the increasing incidence of cancer among young people, highlighting it as a concerning trend. The speaker, who has a background in performing complex surgeries and transplants at UCLA, expresses alarm about the rising number of younger patients requiring such medical interventions. This trend appears to be a new phenomenon within their professional experience.
• 06:30 - 09:30: Immune System and Cancer The chapter discusses the surprising and concerning trend of pancreatic cancer appearing in younger individuals, including a case of a 13-year-old with metastatic pancreatic cancer. It highlights the increasing incidence of pancreatic cancer in younger populations.
• 09:30 - 11:30: Virally Induced Cancers and COVID-19 This chapter discusses a case from a medical clinic involving a young boy suffering from cancer. Unfortunately, the boy had already exhausted all standard care options and treatments available at major medical centers by the time he arrived at the clinic in Butler, Pennsylvania. The narrative highlights the challenges and sadness surrounding virally induced cancers, especially under the circumstances brought on by the COVID-19 pandemic, where resources and treatments could be scarce or overstrained.
• 11:30 - 12:30: Inflammation and Cancer The chapter discusses the increasing incidence of cancers, particularly among younger people, and compares it to a non-infectious pandemic. It highlights the worrisome trend globally, but particularly in the United States, emphasizing concerns about deadly cancers such as pancreatic cancer.
• 12:30 - 14:00: Quantum Theory of Cancer The chapter titled 'Quantum Theory of Cancer' begins with a discussion on the rarity of young pancreatic cancer patients based on the speaker's 50-year career experience. The speaker reflects on the absence of 13-year-old pancreatic cancer patients they've encountered. This observation deeply concerns them, leading to inquiries amongst peers. In search of insights, they reach out to Dr. Steven Day, a colleague trained at UCLA and currently with The Angeles Clinic, who offers additional perspectives on this alarming development.
• 14:00 - 16:00: Understanding the Immune System The chapter discusses the increasing incidence of cancer at younger ages. It highlights cases of young children, such as 8 to 11-year-olds, being diagnosed with colon cancer, and young adults, like 30 to 40-year-old women, developing ovarian cancer. The chapter stresses the need to understand and investigate the reasons behind this rise in cancer cases among the younger population.
• 16:00 - 18:00: Environmental Factors and Immune System The chapter discusses the aggressiveness of cancer, specifically how rapidly it progresses and impacts patients, including those in remission. It addresses the underlying causes of cancer, referring to a segment with San Gupta on 60 Minutes that the speaker participated in years ago.
• 18:00 - 23:30: COVID-19 Vaccine and Immune Response The chapter discusses the nature of cancer, emphasizing its primary issue not as rapid growth, but its resistance to natural cell death. It highlights the ways cancer evades the body's immune system, particularly by hiding from or suppressing natural killer cells and T-cells. This suppression of immune response is a significant concern.
• 23:30 - 29:30: Vaccine Development and Challenges This chapter discusses the process of vaccine development and the associated challenges. It starts with the activation of suppressor cells, which leads to immunosuppression. The rapid progression of this state is discussed, highlighting the lack of barriers stopping possible causes. The chapter includes a personal anecdote about work on a transplant issue at UCA, reflecting on the challenges faced during that period.
• 29:30 - 38:30: Cancer Treatment Innovations This chapter discusses the intricacies of cancer treatment innovations, specifically focusing on the body's immune mechanisms. The speaker emphasizes the importance of immunosuppression in some treatments, while highlighting their work on cancer treatment that does not require immunosuppression. The body's natural 'yin and yang' balance is crucial, and the roles of natural killer cells and T-cells, which have specific functions in targeting and eliminating cancer cells, are explored.
• 38:30 - 47:30: FDA and Pharmaceutical Industry This chapter discusses the role of the immune system in protecting the body from various infections and diseases. It explains how cells in the body are programmed to recognize and destroy infected cells such as those affected by TB, HIV, hepatitis, or COVID-19. Furthermore, the chapter highlights the importance of stem cells in regenerating and replenishing vital organs and tissues in the body, emphasizing their continual growth to maintain essential functions.
• 47:30 - 53:30: Conclusion and Future Outlook The chapter 'Conclusion and Future Outlook' discusses the body's natural defense mechanism against transformed cells using natural killer cells, which are likened to nature's first responders. It explains how these cells maintain equilibrium in the body by identifying and destroying potentially harmful transformed cells. The chapter also touches on the challenges faced when tumors manage to evade detection by these cells, suggesting implications for future medical research and treatments.

Dr. Patrick Soon-Shiong: You’re Being Lied to About Cancer, How It’s Caused, and How to Stop It Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 doctor thanks a lot uh for coming on so you spent your life you know 50 years uh working on treatments for cancer and when you started it seemed like we were moving in the West toward the elimination of cancer smoking was a huge emphasis get rid of tobacco um and cancer rates will drop can obviously smoking does cause cancer um and we got rid of it basically but cancer rates went up
• 00:30 - 01:00 and that is an very rarely remarked upon mystery that really bothers me tell us since you you know you made billions of dollar selling your companies but you're still involved in medical research which I admire where are we now with cancer what are you seeing in cancer rates [Music] [Applause] [Music]
• 01:00 - 01:30 [Applause] [Music] well what's what really worrisome to me now is not just the rate but the population in which it's increasing I.E the younger people so we clearly seeing uh an increase in certain types of cancer like pancreatic cancer ovarian cancer and we seeing it colon cancer and we seeing it in younger [Music] people well just to set a baseline
• 01:30 - 02:00 what's the 10year survival rate for pancreatic cancer it's horrible I think you know if you have pancreatic cancer today I don't think there is a 10e survival rate so to speak yes what there is however if you have patients who are what do we call fail all standard care survival rate is in months you measure it in two months that's certainly my understanding having watched a lot of people die of it um so Advanced pancreatic cancer aescin where are you seeing it now
• 02:00 - 02:30 well I I got to tell you a a really concerning story it's not only I'm seeing it now I'm seeing it in younger people and for the first time in my career you know when I left UCLA I was doing all the Whipples which is a surgery to actually remove most of the pancreas a very big operation you're a surgeon as well I'm a surgeon yes and I was also doing pancreas transplants for type two diabetes and eyet cell transplants and stem cell transplant so I had this diverse activity as a UCLA
• 02:30 - 03:00 assistant professor but I never saw pancreatic cancer in children and the greatest surprise to me was a 13-year-old with metastatic pancreatic cancer that the family called us to help and to me that was not only devastating it emphasized the idea that we seeing people with higher incidents of pancreatic cancer and younger right
• 03:00 - 03:30 now in our Clinic we have 45y old 50y old um and what was sad about this young boy by the time he came to see us he had exhausted all stand of care and he came from Butler Pennsylvania and all the major medical centers really had exhausted all the therapy by the time he came to see us his body was ridden and he passed away so seeing
• 03:30 - 04:00 cancers now in younger people and almost a rise almost like a I want to call it a non-infectious pandemic but this is what I think is going to the worrisome in the world not just in United States but largely in the United States we begin to see this and it's really worrisome a noninfectious pandemic of cancer including deadly cancers correct like pancreas itic um in
• 04:00 - 04:30 in your career which I think is about 50 years of working on this how many 13-year-old pancreatic cancer patients have you seen never never I I I inquired around because it bothered me so much now um of why this is happening so uh Dr Steven day who a good friend who who was trained with me at UCLA when I was at UCLA he's now at The Angeles Clinic and I called him and he said Listen Patrick
• 04:30 - 05:00 I'm now seeing an 8-year-old a 10-year-old an 11-year-old with colon cancer we've never colon cancer we've never seen that we're seeing now 30y old 40y old ladies young ladies with ovarian cancer so this is a real phenomenon of a rise of cancer in early people in in young people and ear in and and reallying to get to the bottom of that do you notice a difference in
• 05:00 - 05:30 the virility of the cancer the speed with which it moves well I'm getting reports they've even called it tubber charged can yes I heard that phrase right I'm getting reports of that now that people that have been in remission before even are now getting back the Cancers and very rapidly progressing so if you really think about what the cause of cancer is you know and I did a piece with San Gupta many many years ago on 60 Minutes and I said you
• 05:30 - 06:00 know the cause of cancer is its inability it's not the rapidity of its growth but its inability to die and its inability to die is because it either hides from the cells that the matter I your natural killer cells your te- cells or and this is what I'm really worried about your body and the cancer has found a way to suppress your killer cells
• 06:00 - 06:30 and once they do that once they activate what you call the suppressor cells uh and you call yourself immunosuppressed and then I think you see this rapid progression because there nothing stopping what could possibly be causing this well I think if you look back of causes you know ironically when I was doing at UCA I was working on an transplant where I want to
• 06:30 - 07:00 immunosuppress the patients yes you have to yeah because you prevent and then I was working on cancer where I don't want to IM supress so I I needed to understand the body's mechanism and we have a crazy wonderful Exquisite balance in our body you have the ying and the Yang of the killer cells and these things called natural killer cells and te- cells whose job is to kill
• 07:00 - 07:30 anything that threatens the body it's his job is to kill quite right anything that threatens body whether you the body has infection if you have TB you have HIV if you have um hepatitis you have covid these cells are there to recognize these infected cells and kill it as you and I are sitting here today our stem cells are growing in order to replenish parts of your body your heart if you didn't have have that you wouldn't have heart at the
• 07:30 - 08:00 age of 14 you need those stem cells but mathematically there are some cells that transformed and your body recognizes that through these natural killer cells and kills it I call that nature's first responder and that's your mechanism that's how we are all protected and we are in the state of equilibrium or balance on the other hand the moment either the tumor find a way to hide from these cells or your body's or the tumor
• 08:00 - 08:30 causes these cells to be suppressed and that's why I call the suppressor cells and there are certain cells in your body called t- cells or myo derived suppressor cells they is all technical that when they get upregulated you've lost your protection and so the question then is how do we understand this balance how do we increase the killers and how do we decreas inrease the suppressors so
• 08:30 - 09:00 that's been 50 years of my challenge of and how do we expose the tumor so on the one hand you need to expose the tumor because it hides from the killers on the other hand you activate the killers and the other hand you have to suppresses suppresses so we're truly playing a good game of chess and I think like a astrophysic where you're looking for God's particle where all these molecules are are floating around talking to each other all the cells are floating around
• 09:00 - 09:30 talking to each other and this Dynamic interaction and how do you understand all of that you know one of the best most fun lectures I gave um I given a lot of lectures on this and try to be non-technical because it's basic What I Call basic immunology and the problem with cancer is it's been treated by oncologists and not immunologists and immunologists don't see patients
• 09:30 - 10:00 because they look at basic immunology and then when you have infection then you have virology so these cross disciplines of virology Immunology on oncology all these allies don't talk to each other yes so so you're saying just big picture for non-sp Specialists of which I'm of course one you're saying that cancer is to some extent a problem with your immune system it is everything about your immune system okay so you've got all kinds of defective cells that could become cancer or cancer in your body at
• 10:00 - 10:30 all times at all times but your body is zapping them correct right which is and that's the fundamental balance of the human body correct and when that body gets out of balance when the killer cells become suppressed or I effective that's a cancer correct okay so I'm sorry to interrupt I just no it's I I love it because that that's the perfect um interpretation that I couldn't do in a non-technical way because I
• 10:30 - 11:00 think that's I get too nerdy so I'm glad well you are a doctor so but that's that that's I think is what's happening in our body we have these perturbations but we're in equilibrium you know and that's a good thing the moment you knock yourself out of equilibrium now what could knock you out of equilibrium and that's why when you know Bobby Kennedy is talking about and standing up about the toxins in our food the toxins in pasas the
• 11:00 - 11:30 processed food um and viral infections and really what knocks you out of balance basically is inflammation um if you have inflammation in your body um there's this now I'm going to get nerdy again these cells called nutrifil that actually see an infection and tries to kill it which it does but if they persistent information these nutriful
• 11:30 - 12:00 actually flip into a suppressor cell so what people don't realize is that we have the Ying Yang in our body that every cell has a counter cell and that's where I I was about to go there I said the most fun conversation I had where I was asked by astrophysicist or physicist to give a lecture is I I named this concept of cancer a quantum theory um like a
• 12:00 - 12:30 physicist um and that in our body we have cells that can be in two states it can be a killer or or a suppressor and like the Sher scat um it could be alive or dead and it depends what you do with it and so I named the S Quantum oncotherapeutics just to be controversial so that doctors could understand what I'm talking about is that we need to understand the fact that
• 12:30 - 13:00 you have a killer t- cell and you have a killer suppressor cell we have an M1 macras that actually Chumps things up an M2 macras that blocks that you have an incase cell that kills and ink cells that inhibits and we need to have that balance otherwise you'll get into autoimmune disease but there's a thing called quantum entanglement that is a scat alive is a scat dead if somebody
• 13:00 - 13:30 interacts with that and the person that interacts with that is the doctor so you as a doctor could either be enlightened enough to activate just the activators and suppress the suppressors and change the dynamic towards the Cure but it's very complex because it's now Quantum because all those changes are happening in minutes in your body these
• 13:30 - 14:00 molecules like God's particle where they're colliding with each other and cells are colliding and interacting happens within minutes so you need to have a theory of how you interact at that level and in so doing the first thing you need to understand is how does cancer happen and then how does it grow um how do you stop it this idea of a vaccine a cancer vacc seene um do you radiate that cancer do
• 14:00 - 14:30 you remove that cancer do you remove the lymph nodes do you give chemotherapy and crazy enough over the last 50 years I figured out that everything we're doing is not the word wrong because that's a bad statement a pejorative statement it's not enlightened better way to say it because everything we're doing is tipping the scales towards the suppressor cells we're activating the suppressor cells we're not activating
• 14:30 - 15:00 the killing cells and we can go into this conversation where I can explain that so the key system which you just said is cancer is all about the immune system so if you activate the immunosuppressor system you get more cancer so then the fundamental root cause is what's activating that immune system on the other way yes and that's inflamation something is suppressing people's immune systems including the poor 13-year-old boy who died of pancreatic cancer and the question is
• 15:00 - 15:30 what is that and maybe there are a lot of causes but it is you know we're not the first people to notice there's been an increase in scary cancers in populations that didn't used to get them it's very obvious just from living here and a lot of people have pointed to both covid the virus and to the MRNA covid vaccines as potential causes do you think that they're related the best way for me to answer that is to look at history what we know about virally
• 15:30 - 16:00 induced cancers is well established we know that if you get Hepatitis you get liver cancer hepatitis is a virus infection we know if you get human papiloma virus HPV you get cervical cancer yes so certain kinds of throat cancer are caused by viruses as well right if you get HIV you get compos sooma yes so we call that oncogenic viruses in medical terms meaning viruses that are
• 16:00 - 16:30 induced carcinogenic and the fundamental basis for that are three-fold the whole marks of an oncogenic virus is one it must persist and why because it continues to create inflammation and why with inflammation you get suppression because your body's trying to suppress it it must inhibit the thing called p-53 that's in your body to try and protect your body from not having cancer and if it it persists and causes
• 16:30 - 17:00 inflammation and and here in HIIT p53 it begins to have the hall marks of an oncogenic virus so then the question is does Co where it come from the vaccine which is the spike protein vaccine or from the infection which is Spike driven that gets into every cell of our body because it goes through the cell of the body it goes wherever you have the thing called the A2 receptor which is in the blood vessels so where you have a blood vessel in your
• 17:00 - 17:30 body it's where it's going to go and if it has an A2 receptor on that blood vessel that's where it can go because that's the purpose of the spike protein to penetrate to hijack that A2 receptor and get into their cells so that's why it gets in panc that's why you have brain fog because it it disrupts the blood vessels of the brain and cause mitochondrial dysfunction that's why in the colon which has a high and the GI tract is a high H2 receptor that's why pancreas High H2 receptor where that's why you people have in the in the heart you have
• 17:30 - 18:00 dysfunction uh you you've seen young people have sudden heart attacks all the a sudden you see young people with pancreatic cancer all of a sudden you see young people with colon cancer all of a sudden so is it by coincidence that postco infection postco vaccine we seeing all these events where we know the spike protein goes there I don't think so I think it's not a coincidence
• 18:00 - 18:30 so the question is can we prove is this what I call Long covid f is persisting and the group at University of California San Francisco has now definitively proven that and published that in papers like nature can we also prove that once you have that Persistence of that virus does that Co virus suppress the natural killer cell does a natural killer cell actually not only go to sleep becomes what do we call energic that's now been
• 18:30 - 19:00 published the natural killer cell has gone to sleep so so by your definition we just solve the mystery right there I I think so I think this is the conversation I had with the but wait I mean billions of people literally billions of people had the co virus over a billion got the spike protein vaccine so that's like we're talking
• 19:00 - 19:30 like a huge percentage of the Earth's population unless I'm missing something now you understand what keeps me awake at night and it's kept me awake at night for two years two and a half years and that's why I sort of band and everything just to focus on how do we clear the virus cuz the answer is to clear the virus from the body from the body the answer is to stop the inflammation because it's chronic inflammation privacy should be right right for all citizens in this country it's a
• 19:30 - 20:00 prerequisite to Freedom no privacy no Freedom unfortunately in America privacy is a luxury so who gets the luxury of privacy you don't we don't privacy is given to government agencies they've got millions of classified documents actually over a billion in this country the average American citizen meanwhile is being watched every time he or she goes online data Brokers are tracking and recording everything you do and they're selling what they learn about you and your private life to advertisers even to the government to the NSA what
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• 21:00 - 21:30 in the human body if not so far we found three years four years is there any reason to believe it'll naturally go away not if your body is Im supressed so it's a circle you ask what causes cancer because your body's em supressed you have in your body Nature's compound and if the tumor or the infection or the inflammation suppresses it you have to find a way to reactivate
• 21:30 - 22:00 it and clear the virus it's literally as simple as that and that's the missing link that I think so it sounds like you're describing what could be like the worst Human Health crisis in history I I don't know how to say that um without saying it it scares the Pence off me because I think what we may be it's I don't think it's virus versus man now you right this
• 22:00 - 22:30 is existential um I I think when I talk about the the largest non-infectious pandemic that we afraid of this is it um because while there was an increase Rising cancer in our country because of the idea of um the toxins and everything else this IM suppression that has occurred now globally and more importantly the imun suppression tied to inflammation chronic
• 22:30 - 23:00 inflammation which is asymptomatic and sometimes and sometimes it's not there's 15 million Americans with long Co and they're not psychiatric when they have memory loss um they're not psychiatric when they have instantaneous heart attacks it's not psychiatric when you have an 8-year-old 10-year-old with colon cancer a 13-year-old pancreatic cancer so [Music] the idea was is there
• 23:00 - 23:30 solution and this is what thank god well I certainly hope so cuz You' spent your life around scary diseases like that's been your life and if you're scared then that's that's not a good sign I'm scared but hopeful I think it's important for me to have this conversation with you not just that's why okay I'll share with you a conversation I had I got invited by the CEO of the Henry Jackson Foundation to come
• 23:30 - 24:00 to DC I think October November last year during the election phase and just to have a conversation about about what I'm doing and there he brought the leader from Walter Reed um the the B the dod the NIH the ni all into that room it was just me and I said it is time it is time for me to to reveal to this learned group of
• 24:00 - 24:30 leaders about what I'm scared about and I spent I think it was 3 hours no slides just me speaking alone on the stage and all of them in the audience when I first started the conversation the first sentence was I think Co is oncogenic one of the members of the audience said that's nonsense I said okay let me explain to you what we've been doing in our research at the end of 3 hours 4 hours he said you've got to
• 24:30 - 25:00 publish this this is so important and I said yes we are processing the publication and what came out was this paper that they biopsied the colon of young people temporarily when no Co to co and showed the Persistence of replicating viruses in the colon tissue two years out replicating covid viruses replicating Co viruses replic
• 25:00 - 25:30 ating asymptomatic replicating in the tissue meaning there's inflammation and when you have this inflammation these neutrals now getting geeky again plasti size flip from a protective nutrifil to a suppressive nutrifil it's called an N2 it's called a Milo derive suppressor cell that's an official name so now you have suppression in your
• 25:30 - 26:00 body and there no wonder that then converts into colon cancer wait so is this true do you think for I mean have you had Co no lucky man not lucky man t- cell man I have a te- cell in my body that protects me from the nuclear capsid where do I get one that trial was held up by the FDA and by Collins and Fouch you never got
• 26:00 - 26:30 covid because your protector cells were so strong not only a protector s if I do get Co with the virus clears you want to clear the virus get the hell out of my body get it out wait I just want to pause here I know you're in the midst of a much larger story but this is something I think everyone can understand so I think I'm in good health I am in very robust did you have Co I did how many times one I never took the vir I never took the
• 26:30 - 27:00 vaccine okay um but I got covid knocked me right on my butt it was a bad three days fine but I don't understand you're older than I am how did you never get let's just I just want to get very specific like how did I mean everyone on the planet got Co okay so let me let me give you some idea okay um one because we understand the implications uh my wife dutchwood also
• 27:00 - 27:30 never got Co because both of us so this is this is the story We by by the unfortunately I relate this it's a painful thing to me because I related to Kobe's death it was during Kobe's time when he passed away and at the funeral Kobe Bryan who you you were close to correct very close to and at the funeral uh at his funeral all the people in the room and there I think
• 27:30 - 28:00 November and I turned to Gavin yum and I said listen this is one virus I'm worried about because I was studying this virus you know I understand HPV very well and I understand hepatitis I said this is not a respiratory virus this is a dangerous virus so I went back and I shut down our organization so that we could actually do nothing else but Co my entire team of hundreds of scientists on zoom and
• 28:00 - 28:30 everything else around the world I said we must go after this V virus with a vaccine that clears the virus and the only way to clear the virus is to have what we call a t- cell an NK cell the cells that kills cancer cells and I wrote a paper with Carl scone who said CO's like cancer in cancers like Co meaning it's immun suppression that causes its spread and immune suppression by the co virus
• 28:30 - 29:00 allows it to persist so the only vaccine that is important is a te- cell vaccine but that's why I'm telling you virologists think about antibodies versus cellular therapy it's foreign to them to have a vaccine that stimulates tea cells so I said I understand that internally it's a little weird since in 20 minutes you explained it to me not particularly high IQ not a scientist I
• 29:00 - 29:30 understand exactly what you're saying why don't ver why isn't it obvious to virologists why isn't that like day one lesson in virology school that the te- cells that the the cells that protect you against all potential internal harm they're the key because every vaccine so far is antibody based Dogma Dogma blind spots okay now cooking with Gest now I understand what you're talking about
• 29:30 - 30:00 Dogma blind spots nicely put okay I'm sorry I keep stepping in story so you figure out you're not stepping because you're allowing you actually interpreting it's pleasure to me because I don't know what I'm saying sometimes whether it's going to be so geeky it gets lost it's important for the audience for you to interpret this is what Sanji did for me in the 60 minutes he was brilliant in he spent two years with me by the way doing a little 15-minute piece wow yeah would come to La we do the shoot shoot shoot shoot
• 30:00 - 30:30 damn we just had breakfast that's it but can I okay so you figure out early everyone's panicked about covid okay but your position is they're panicked for the wrong reasons corre and actually maybe they're not quite as panicked as they should be because this virus could pave the way for cancer because it will suppress the immune system of the human body so you in November you said when did you right so so by March 2020 we had the vaccine March 2020 because I had built a full
• 30:30 - 31:00 GMP facility for cancer using the same vaccine that NCI had already tested for HPV and for colon cancer with thinkal CA so I create this this vaccine in which we would educate your body prior to co for the treatment of cancer to educate the tea cells to recognize a cancer cell to kill it that's called a cancer vaccine but which by the way is for the only vaccine
• 31:00 - 31:30 in clinical trials today to prevent cancer that the NCI is running using our technology is there any way you can take the word vaccine out and call it something else I'm calling it bios Shield good vaccine just scares the crap out of people this point because it's not a vaccine in that General sense of an antibody based vaccine it's your body's bios Shield so um we'll announce it on the show we're going to call this project bioshield which by the way in 2004 there was a bioshield Act for National preparedness for against
• 31:30 - 32:00 radiation against a pandemic or infectious diseases so we have the worst thing that could happen to you is to have a one dose of radiation will wipe out your enk cells and your tea cells that's how you die yes that's how you get cancer it's abts your immune system except your immune system so we wanted to create a bios shield and the bios Shield is to educate your body to have these tea
• 32:00 - 32:30 cells called memory te- cells that go and hide in the bone marrow and come out when they need it and kill that cell so it can never do damage that's the concept and it's not a foreign concept we published it with the National Cancer Institute so by March 2020 I took all my our resources thank God we had the resources so that's the sort of GI was this your money all my money okay so I should just say I alluded to it earlier
• 32:30 - 33:00 but you had a couple of companies making Cancer drugs you owned all of them I mean you own I think 100% of the companies you sold them for10 billion or something so but rather than buy a Vineyard you continued in your work is that a fair very fair you know as I said to you over breakfast I had no idea about stocks so when the two companies were bought and they were bought for the right reasons so one company was American pharmaceutical partners and we were making literally close to a million vials a day in United States
• 33:00 - 33:30 manufacturing of 150 different skus for every part of the hospital and was safe for Hein so Fria said we want to buy you we said great and then I'm I developed this molecule that was feeding the tumor that could actually activate the immune system to to activate the macras it's called a braine and San said we want to buy you I said great and the purpose for my selling them was not for the money clearly it was for the money but the purpose of the use of the money to pursue this dream of this astrophysics
• 33:30 - 34:00 to find God's particle in your human body to activate your immune system that was the purpose of this money and that's what I've done with the money I spent about $3 billion of this money I've not gotten one penny from the government not even one dime you're the only one yeah and maybe that's the freedom and The Liberation allow me to say what I I can say now that's right so again I keep pulling
• 34:00 - 34:30 this away because there's a lot here that's interesting but how does she not get Co okay so I recognized that so Peter marks and I had these conversations so he was head of siba and I was in pinging him with the science because this is a biologic and I was saying to Peter this Peter I need to show you that we need to
• 34:30 - 35:00 create a te- cell vaccine and he said well we don't do te cell vaccines everybody's doing the other vaccines but great let's continue the antibody vaccines antibody vaccines then he called me and he said we're going to create warp speed and he's a star treking and I'm a star treking I love warp speed I said okay we got to do this in warp speed absolutely but the only way Peter you can do this in warp speed you need we need as a country to have NIH and B fund a trial
• 35:00 - 35:30 where we take maak monkeys we give them the vaccine and everybody should throw their vaccine in because I don't care it's not mine or theirs whoever's vaccine to clear the virus the only way to do this experiment you give the monkeys the vaccine it's under your control you have 100 monkeys everybody gets a a set of vaccines and then you in fect the the the the monkeys in the bsl3 facility with a high dose of
• 35:30 - 36:00 covid and then you see in their lungs and the tissue that there's no virus after 7 Days absolutely that was W speed so I was one of eight of warp speed then I get a call Patrick you dewarped you are they I said test my vaccine anyway they didn't a vaccine test of the NH and
• 36:00 - 36:30 B it cleared the virus as I predicted there was no virus in the lungs and after a big infection so I said okay um I'm dewarped and this was a Francis Collins scheme and Anthony fouchi scheme and mon sloy scheme and we one day we talk about the conversation I have with Mon slawi and what I've learned about Francis Collins in that in that event and they were
• 36:30 - 37:00 going to go after this antibody vaccine which is his mRNA vaccine with Spike and I said this is too important I told my people we're going to build our own vaccine with our own money I couldn't get enough material other than to do one batch and we're going to do a phase one trial and we're going to inject as many people that we can do in the phase one TR I'm one of them I injected myself uh um and your wife and then and we're
• 37:00 - 37:30 going to measure I talk about I don't want to talk about the family course and we going to measure my own blood I drew my own blood and tested and I have te- cells to to nuclear capsid and to spike which means if I were to get Co t word the te- cells now our memory te- cells would clear the virus so so we then uh tried begged
• 37:30 - 38:00 begged because not for funding even but for the plastic bags that were now restricted as you grow these things to FIS Mna all the materials that you need in the biological facility got zero I've only got one batch so I'm going to South Africa and inject these in patients with HIV CU that's a big biggest test you could have you couldn't generate te- cells in the patients with
• 38:00 - 38:30 HIV and do the phase two and phase three trial in South Africa so we did that and then I called Peter and I said Peter I'm sorry what were the results like te- cells the people that interestingly enough um it doesn't say just so you know um you have to
• 38:30 - 39:00 differentiate does it actually prevent the penetration of the virus versus the load of the virus versus the clearance of the virus these are three different things so we think it prevents the penetration but we don't know because as soon as it does penetrate it would clear so you wouldn't even know or the t- cell vaccine this is anecdotal but some of the people who got our t- cell vaccine their family members got Co they didn't
• 39:00 - 39:30 get it obviously the vaccine and they didn't get Co from time while living with the family the issue of clearing the virus in transmission was the key so an antibody vaccine May reduce the viral load and therefore reduce death which is a good thing that prison Trump did but the next generation of clearing the virus was what was needed and both should have been developed
• 39:30 - 40:00 simultaneously it wasn't and I'll share with you to this day it's a mystery to me why but the the opportunity to clear the virus was actually known I think by by Collins and by fouchy that it did not clear the virus the spike vaccines the spike vaccine fiser the antibody vaccine does not end to this day does not clear the virus that seems like a big deal well I
• 40:00 - 40:30 just what we talked about if you don't clear the virus um and you have a pieces of the virus in there especially Spike whether from the infection or from the vaccine and now you get another infection now the virus brings along this nuclear capsid now it Recon joins and replicates again in these what they call privileged sites two years
• 40:30 - 41:00 later is what we seen now we're back to persistence that's now published just months ago and this is what I shared with NH secretly for months ago and persistence asym asymptomatic persistence but with inflammation and reduction of p-53 and imos supression are all the Hallmarks and recipes for
• 41:00 - 41:30 cancer and coming back to your first question is why are we seeing an increase in young people I think all of the above the toxins the history the red Dy the past the co all of the above does both covid and the covid vaccine lower over time the human immune system the vaccine
• 41:30 - 42:00 itself um upregulates temporarily the antibodies but if the vaccine the this the spike protein breaks off and the the RNA or DNA goes into the [Music] cells and withered from infection or the vaccine that's where the controversy is right it could be both and the vaccine doesn't clear the virus that's the
• 42:00 - 42:30 key it doesn't clear the virus and that's why we were told of course you take the virus and then you can't get covid or transmit it but neither one turned out to be true demonstrably untrue I mean well not only demonstrably untrue it was knowingly untrue that's what's bad about would seem like that's criminal actually I mean if I tell you that you know this car gets 40 miles the
• 42:30 - 43:00 gallon and instead it blows up what that's a crime you can't sell anything under false pretenses that's a crime I don't see how this is not a crime but well as as you said of a breakfast it's it's not a conspiracy if it's true I believe you're writing a book with that title you probably have no idea where your meat comes from you probably should know the likelihood is that the meat you're eating passed through a massive industrial processing plan probably owned by a foreign corporation
• 43:00 - 43:30 foreign meat did you sign up for that we don't think you did so you probably have no idea of knowing where the animal grew up what that animal ate or what chemicals big food pumped into that animal to increase profits that's all kept secret meaning you can never really know what you're putting in your mouth and in your body that's disgusting if you think about it and it's easy to fix Merryweather Farms a farm owned by friends of ours is a great option we use their meat we eat their meat for every
• 43:30 - 44:00 meal unlike corporate Farmers Merryweather Farms controls the entire thing from the pasture the cattle grze on to the facility where the beef is packaged in Wyoming and across the Mountain West the cattle raised without hormones without antibiotics or any other additive clean American beef you can trust every single time and they will ship it straight to your door go to Merryweather farms.com Tucker use the code Tucker 2025 for 10% off off your first order you can also save it a monthly subscription if you sign up
• 44:00 - 44:30 today that's Merryweather farms.com Tucker we eat it and vouch for it so and you know that they knew you've established for a fact that the developers of this and our Public Health authorities knew that the covid VA would neither prevent infection nor transmission yes and W I think you know it's not well known that during the first
• 44:30 - 45:00 um president Trump um election he offered me a position and I turned it down because I said to him I really could help him from outside in better than and I had too much to do I really was working on this thank God working on this um potential cure for cancer as well as clearing the virus with Co this this what I call the missing link which we can talk about this activator of the unnatural killer cells this bios
• 45:00 - 45:30 shield and we have this bios shield now so it was the right decision for me not to go into the government during that time and to stay stay out this was 1617 correct but worse I've since discovered not by my inquiry but it's been revealed to me emails about how Francis Collins and some politicians work hard to prevent me from even joining becoming her
• 45:30 - 46:00 of and I think that was the motivation all the way down stream that we asked okay so what happened to this vaccine so I called the FDA and said okay I can't do a randomized placebo control trial now because you got fisers Mna vaccines all over the place so let me be the booster and Peter Mar to his credit was the one who said absolutely Peter marks to his credit was
• 46:00 - 46:30 the one who says I'm worried about this covid vaccine and this long Co I want to study the effects of this vaccine Peter walk who then said to me Patrick fine go ahead I injected the first three patients as a booster I get the call from the FDA to say you have to stop I said why to this day they didn't never explained to me it wasn't Peter it was people around
• 46:30 - 47:00 Peter said you must stop so we stopped and there was nothing more we could do anyway because we didn't have any of the resources the money the supplies to complete a phase three so the government has a monopoly on some of the materials that you need to do this kind of testing in a biolab is that is that correct correct but now we into Biden era so now we in the Biden era that said I must stop this is 2020 now so now Beyond be you it was yeah it was
• 47:00 - 47:30 during the Biden era and I think there there was this sadly I'm I'm not a conspiracy theorist but now I've come to realize it truly was a deep State inside there that had a motivation Beyond it's sad to say it's most devastating to say Beyond public health and you know I just tweeted recently of how so few people could hurt so
• 47:30 - 48:00 many and that's why when I tweeted about finally we have the right person in HHS with Barby Kennedy will take this on and that we have doctors that will be like Marty mcer I don't know but I do know he's a surgeon who can understand and touch and feel what it means to be there on behalf of for the patient um and my support for that um I
• 48:00 - 48:30 think we have a chance now to completely turn this around in his next few years I think this last election was in part about that I think the national realization that covid was there was something very dark there it wasn't just a virus that happened upon us uh naturally that there was there was there was a lot of evil uh bound up in it but just to back up a second you said you have learned from watching Co that a few people can hurt so many who are those
• 48:30 - 49:00 people I think the main culprit really sitting there was Collins Francis Collins Francis Collins and he controlled I mean I had shared with President Trump that Francis Collins should not be the NH director he offered me a job uh Peter teal nominated me and I've since found emails of Francis
• 49:00 - 49:30 Collins sending an email to a politician that alarm Bells alarm Bells Peter teals nominated Patrick sunsong we have to find a way to stop it why to this day power greed um political need he did the same thing with Craig fento I remember during Clinton's time with the Human Genome Project where Craig vent invented the sequencing machine for tens of millions
• 49:30 - 50:00 of dollars and he spending billions of dollars doing nothing but wanted the credit I I I think what happens to you when you get into into Washington the ego greed and power changes your own mindset um so I can't give motivation to that all I can tell you is when I saw that email I was devastated that somebody would actually go to that extent and
• 50:00 - 50:30 then send that same email to the CEO of Bio which is all big farmer and that CEO of Bio said let's go to Google Search to find some dirt on himt on you on me to stop me from being nominated to be head of NIH or whatever let's Google him to stop him let's Google to find some dirt some bad stuff negative research whatever they want to find they probably
• 50:30 - 51:00 couldn't find any dirt on me but that was The Interchange between them on email but the funny thing is you made a product and but by the way a clarification of terms my understanding was a vaccine was administered to a healthy person to prevent him from getting the disease you're describing a product the one that you made that you can inject into an infected person and it cures the infection that sounds more like a conventional medicine than a vaccine it's a therapeutic a therapeutic
• 51:00 - 51:30 correct so you know I use the word vaccine because that's what they understood you know it's it's Dogman terminology right but you're but you're giving this to people who have covid who have HIV well I want to give it to people who don't have covid so they can actually they do get Co but then I want to give I am now giving to patient with HIV I'm giving to people with HPV I'm giving people um who are getting cancer and have cancer and more importantly I
• 51:30 - 52:00 there's one in 280 Americans one in 280 Americans have this thing called Lynch syndrome what Lynch syndrome is is a genetic predisposition of an 80% increase of colon cancer ovarian cancer breast cancer it's a genetic predisposition where your cells don't repair themselves I lost a friend to this yes we are in clinical trials for the bioshield for patients with with lynchin or we and I have 100 patients enrolled already giving them this bios Shield
• 52:00 - 52:30 that'll prevent cancer so it's one of the first Trials of prevention of cancer rigor and treatment of cancer then this drug this bios Shield keep not want to call it the vaccine has just gotten improved in 2024 for bladder cancer we now have people who failed everything who would have the bladder removed think about that your bladder REM removed a 9% mortality just from the surgery alone
• 52:30 - 53:00 where we given them this bios Shield that's all they got it's a subcutanous injection um or sorry into the bladder and they are now free of disease still complete remission 9 years out alive today we can talk to them published we have patients with metastatic pancreatic cancer we just published was free of disease 5 years out Senator Reed who came to see me
• 53:00 - 53:30 after having failed all the treatment with his pancreatic cancer spread to his liver came to see me and he said to me Patrick I'm here but I checked with Francis Collins who said don't go I said well Senator read it's your choice you said I'm coming and we gave him the therapy and E ca19 went down to normal and he lived for two two two years free of disease he actually came was very
• 53:30 - 54:00 active we had a patient with meral cell carcinoma which is a terrible disease of failed everything um he came into a clinic complete response 9 years out and he died of other causes the reason I met Robert or Robert junr and I've not known him for about four months is I
• 54:00 - 54:30 called Barby shrier his cousin his cousin and the reason I knew Bobby shria because Bobby called me seven years prior to that saying Patrick I'm on the city council Santa Monica and the mayor of Santa Monica has this terrible tumor in his head and neck it's ulcerating under his chin ulcerating through his jaw and you see lay and see the SI he said he's got two weeks to live he's got to go to hospice can you see him I said absolutely Bobby I think he needs our natural killer cells he needs our bios
• 54:30 - 55:00 Shield so I brought him to our Clinic which we have in Los Angeles in Elsa gundo the nurses broke into cheers the nurses says Patrick what are you doing um y said he has to go to hospice you should give this man I should know you don't understand we can dynamically activate this and this is all has an outpatient we got him into complete remission complete remission to the still life so it healed and this melted the
• 55:00 - 55:30 tumor he went home because it was exposed a little bleed happened in the blood vessel his family took him to St John's and then they called me frantically and says the doctor says do not resuscitate I said what call let me speak to that doctor he said well it's bleeding and it's got this thing is he's I think it was in his late 70s early 80s I said please clip it it's a complete response and we're going to do a flap to cover
• 55:30 - 56:00 that he did we did the flap he lived for two years eat was able to eat so when I called Bobby and I said Bobby you remember what we did he said absolutely Patrick a lot of people have asked me to introduce to to Robert you know Robert and I don't speak very much we've had an argument but but but his ideas and I said I understand but I'm going to give you number to to to to to to robertt to Bobby Kennedy um and he'll
• 56:00 - 56:30 call you Bobby called me in 10 minutes and I said Bobby I'd like to introduce myself he said Patrick can I meet with you I said please and he came to meet with me at my home and we had this long conversation and I realized I've just I've watched your your show with him he is what he is an authentic man with a sense of purpose conviction
• 56:30 - 57:00 courage he says what he really believes sometimes it may be wrong sometimes it may be right but he says what he believes and I really believed oh my God here's somebody who would have the courage to Take On The World and ask the questions and I said I'm going to support you and that's what happened that's how I got to know him amazing he was dismissed by uh no not just dismissed attacked vilified by a lot of
• 57:00 - 57:30 people in the medical establishment I would say everybody wh why were you willing to listen to him because what he's saying is exactly what I'm was saying and I I'm sort of attacked by these same people because of the Dogma that's out there so let me give you this example I said Bobby and I shared with him the story about Hope Hicks I said that you you you probably just walked out to the office and I walked in
• 57:30 - 58:00 um in 2016 it's 2017 I said listen you people think of you saying you shouldn't have a polio vaccine you that you're an antiv vaccinator what you really are saying you're worried about the excipients inside the vaccine so about the what the okay so that's a technical the the materials that that go in with the vaccine yes the Mercury Etc with the Mercury Etc so I understand there's a
• 58:00 - 58:30 polio vaccine there 1 2 3 4 polio vaccines that now been manufactured and now that all of a sudden there's a new polio vaccine that's manufactured in which we have cows serum calf serum inside That vaccine and I know and you know everybody knows in the UK knows you can get pre-own disease from this Cur serum because you can measure that so that got approved in 4 days with just
• 58:30 - 59:00 because of safety the way Dogma is happening but there's other polio vaccines so you can take the other polio vaccines but don't take that one just like I was telling you about maybe I was telling about propop file story over breakfast um and you should explain it that way that you want it just to be examined and he said exactly I said okay not only did I get him he is asking the
• 59:00 - 59:30 right questions and people are scared to ask these questions because his perverse incentives and that was what bothered me but in science shouldn't any question be allowed exactly so when I tweeted I said he knows more science than most doctors he's much of a it's a good thing you're rich is you'd be out of a job tweeting stuff like that but it is right
• 59:30 - 60:00 and and that's what's a blessing I think you know I love the American dream and that's why you said okay I made this money the money is for the purpose of being able to do this and I was very concerned about being too loud about it because if this steep state would hold up the approval and they did by the way they put us into complete response L I got a thousand requests for information the most my submission was close to 700,000 pages in order to get this thing through
• 60:00 - 60:30 700,000 it's like the US tax code this drug has been in Trials now for 8 years 2015 how long was the fiser MRNA covid vaccine in Trials months not even so that's why I'm trying to say you know this the when when you I know which one I'm taking you know when you would talk about the the user fees so we thought that the user fees was going to accelerate the approval where the FDA gets user fees from farmer
• 60:30 - 61:00 it turns out that the big farmer user fees are so large it pays for the salary for all these reviewers so now the biotch companies the young biotech companies are [Music] throttled so the big farmer that does just incremental little dots that just follow the revenue this checkpoints multi billion doll MKS what 20 billion 30 billion Revenue Bristol mice follows it aseno follows it
• 61:00 - 61:30 Ro follows it there's no they're all the same but it's all about incremental sameness and follow the dollar but the Innovation is really at this young biotech companies that are throttled this is what needs to be changed by the FDA today they need a complete revamp where people with skill sets and the skill sets of the modern science not the old drugs has to be in place to understand
• 61:30 - 62:00 what's at stake here time for another true life Alp story I got a call from a friend of mine yesterday honestly true story who said his girlfriend had just broken up with him over Alp he wouldn't stop and I thought to myself that's kind of sad and he said no it's not sad imagine if I'd married her now I know I was saved then the next day this same friend is driving at twice a speed limit through a major American city pulled over by a cop in a speed trap cop takes his license registration
• 62:00 - 62:30 goes back to the patrol car runs him comes back looks in the window and sees a tin of alp on the dashboard pauses stunned says to my friend you use Alp yeah I do says my friend so do I says the cop we all do he looks at my friend thoughtfully and goes drive safely sir and hands back his license and registration no ticket so in two days he's saved from a tragic marriage to a girl who doesn't like Alp and a speeding ticket all true it's more than a [Applause] nicoe in an age to 350 million people
• 62:30 - 63:00 are guessing there about 350 million Alp stories email us yours we want to know and read it on the air email tellall at Alp pouch.com tell all at Al pouch.com give us your op story well you have to take the conflict out too I mean if a Reviewer is paid by the company whose drugs he's reviewing that's like such an obvious conflict in no other world would that be
• 63:00 - 63:30 acceptable not only wouldn't be acceptable if then that reviewer has also the role to block an innovator it gets worse right again this just seems like crime to me yeah I mean I don't know if this were going on in another country for outside the United States and I'm an American so I give the United States every benefit of every doubt it takes me forever to realize something's corrupt because it's America it's not corrupt but if this were happening I don't just name the country China South Africa you
• 63:30 - 64:00 know I'd be like well that's the most corrupt thing I've ever heard well that's exactly the fear I have now the Chinese don't have this restriction and their Innovations is now outstripping us think about that I've always said America's lead in health care and biomed Innovation is the best in the world and if we could use biomedical Innovation as foreign policy for Africa into Asia into India to bring
• 64:00 - 64:30 that to the rest of the world that's how we lead I now read the papers and the Chinese science is now out stripping us look what happened to astrazenica just last week they just spent $2 billion investing in China now that's a tragedy for us not for manufacturing for Innovation oh so that's not good no not good cuz the idea was we offshore all the manufacturing but we the ideas
• 64:30 - 65:00 generate here so Asen is English company so what's what I'm saying is the fundamental problem I think lies at the FDA and even the ni so the change that Bobby's bringing in with J now being ahead of NH and Marty being ahead of FTA and Bobby himself Having the courage to stand up to talk both against the food industrial complex and the farmer complex um take on the MS of the world and the fisers of the [Music]
• 65:00 - 65:30 world um I think we have maybe an opportunity what I call a Period of Enlightenment and really I'm all about Enlightenment um and if you look at the sanj pece we are there now so I want to actually send stop ask question though so your position is that cancer but not just Cancer all kinds of illnesses are caused by weaken immune system and inflammation it's all about the immune system your body functions you live or
• 65:30 - 66:00 you die by the immune system the ccent cells aging is the immune system the cells in your body that allow you to go to 100 years old 120 years old is based on the activity and the function of the immune system because the immune system what's regulating your healthy cells could we just go through I know this is not like patentable this is not your business but it's I'm what are
• 66:00 - 66:30 some of the obvious things a person can do to strengthen his immune system so you ask what activates the natural killer cell so it is your it's like you know when you look at the leaf and you talk about apotosis and the leaf actually sits and goes Brown and and and it changes but then goes back up so all of human nature all of nature is filled with this biology of this balance
• 66:30 - 67:00 so you have you're a product of nature I mean literally you're product of when you were tadpole and a fish as we came out so this cell is EV is evolved since the Cambrian age think about that this cell this natural killer cell in your body I published my first article in natural killer cell in 1990 that's this cell was only discovered in 19 70s think about that and we've ignored itself cell this
• 67:00 - 67:30 is what I call the missing link I'm going to announce that at the American Urology conference in Las Vegas in the end of end of this month we have discovered I've not discovered the missing link we've discovered the awareness of this Missing Link and how to activate this Missing Link so the idea is to activate the natural killer cell it has 30,000 receptors on the cell what this natural killer cell
• 67:30 - 68:00 does it replenishes itself with sleep so sleep is important it replenishes itself with light with sunlight and I believe there's a certain wavelength the red wavelength in the sunlight that it actually requires for it to be stimulated so this is why people get sicker in the winter exactly that's why Seattle has the highest suicide rate think about that right so these things and if you look at the places like the
• 68:00 - 68:30 Norway in Sweden where there's a very little Sun [Music] Finland so Nature's all about light sunlight so that's why I I I think this is I like obvious observ Nations nature is all about sunlight of course plants don't grow without sunlight right and at the end of the day we we we either about
• 68:30 - 69:00 neutrons photons and electrons that's what that's what we are we as a human being is nothing else but a battery and end gate when you think about that right so we have a bunch of electrons and neutrons and charges that floating through us that actually interact and that's how I think of of the human body that's why I said I think of it as an astrophysicist it's crazy but that's how my mind works so sleep getting sunlight and and and having food that doesn't imun supress your biome the bacteria in your
• 69:00 - 69:30 body sends out materials that actually will immunosuppress or activate what are the immunosuppressive [Music] foods unfortunately I think most natural foods are fine it's the toxins in the food exactly what I said the excipients so when you talk about red dye the processed foods all this unnatural prit stuff ultimately cause inflammation now
• 69:30 - 70:00 when it gets back to this plasticity of inflammation inflammation causes immun suppression because it causes all these cells to flip yes from the killer state to the suppressor State that's why we said we have this dichotomy of is the cat alive is the C dead you see it you see it too in the elderly you know it's why an infection or you know a diabetic foot infection lead to a systemic infection and kill the person correct
• 70:00 - 70:30 right that's why you know when this guy discovered that hpylori causes gastric alula they said you're nuts it's acid I remember that so well so well so now when you think about that so that's what I'm this do but that's a consensus now right acid does not cause ulcers well it's causing effect so H palori causes the the the inflammation and then the acid is naturally in your stomach activates it but it's not the core cause cor correct but it's all about Dogma that's why I call this a vaccine but
• 70:30 - 71:00 it's a bios Shield so so you have to fight Dogma part of the problem is you're fighting so I will ask you I wanted to ask us to do an experiment I'm all for it where we pick up the phone call any random oncologist not to shame them primary care physician pick up a phone and said you do a CBC cor yes can you define what a CPC is a complete blood count just a you take a blood and you
• 71:00 - 71:30 look for yeah the blood screen that everyone blood screen yeah for whether you anemic or not anemic people understand that right red blood cells you see these red blood cells and you give chemotherapy and radiation and you ask what do you look for well we look to see if anemic so we can give you this drug that amen makes called epogen we look to see whether your platelets have gone down so we can give you a plate transfusion we look to see whether neutrals have gone down so that you don't get any infection called
• 71:30 - 72:00 neutropenic fever so we give you the drug n nupen well the problem is does red blood cells cure cancer no does PL cure cancer no does neutrals kill cancer no what kills cancer the natural killer cells and te cells so in that CBC there's a thing called the lymphocytes correct do you look at that no the only cell that is important that kills cancer 99.9% of oncologists will
• 72:00 - 72:30 say we don't pay any attention to that that umis ter that does he MK backwards why why if you're on not to you know attack oncologist but if you're fighting cancer why do you ignore the one cell that fights cancer I that's experiment I want to that and and that's a little mysterious am I missing something that's
• 72:30 - 73:00 exactly that's the missing link the final frontier the eal mc² the God's equation that is the key element in your body that we've been missing for 50 years for 50 years but it's even worse than that [Music] those Missing Link we've actually destroyed with chemotherapy we've
• 73:00 - 73:30 destroyed with radiotherapy and we've destroyed with checkpoint Inhibitors we've destroyed with steroids guess what we give to patients chemotherapy radiotherapy steroids and checkpoints am I missing something I don't know anything about this you know I was a Russian Studies major uh but I have no just cuz I'm 55 I know a lot of cancer patients I have always been skeptical that the protocol is effective based on so what I have
• 73:30 - 74:00 noticed is those therapies seem to beat back the cancer short term but then so often you watch it come roaring back you know I'm in remission and then Wham you just get hit by a wave of cancer and eliminated so if you see my writings I've written so many times you win the battle and you lose the wall so this is not I'm not imagining this phenomen you're not imagining it you win the battle and you lose the war the reason you win the battle is because you see this little blip of a response
• 74:00 - 74:30 with chemotherapy and then the moment you stopped or not even again you've actually now killed the cells that there to protect you you've upregulated the suppressor cells and you get metastasis and you say so sorry you now have to go to hospice think about that that's what we've been doing for 50 years that's the Dogma that I'm fighting so what okay so let's just say I leave here and I'm diagnosed with you know a serious life-threatening form of cancer what
• 74:30 - 75:00 would you recommend I do next so this is where you play chess and don't play checkers this is where you play go where you say okay what is the cancer doing first well guess what the cancer is not stupid so it's figured out a way to hide from these killer cells so the first thing you have to do is you have to expose The receptors on the cancers of the killer cells could recognize
• 75:00 - 75:30 that so even in the presence of chemotherapy you don't use chemotherapy to kill the tumor you use a tiny dose of chemotherapy just to stress the patient the the cancer and the cancer is oh my God something's coming at me and it starts exposing itself so you go from hide to expose so use a chemotherapy at a low dose called Low metronomic dose to
• 75:30 - 76:00 use it as what I called an imuno modulator importantly wait wait I was ask you're describing cancer as almost like an autonomous entity that has a a goal a will to destroy the human body it does but that's I mean you're describing like a it's a machine but with with intent and kind of clever Behavior it hides like what you're desing like some for some like foreign entity in the body that's trying to kill the body it is it's like a
• 76:00 - 76:30 virus but how how can a tumor know to hide because it has genomic sequencing in there that actually blocks the expression so but sounds diabolical it is diabolical that's why I spent 50 years trying to understand it's not a human brain it's biology and how biology can mutate and actually it's your body is a beautiful thing it's Exquisite thing so it has to have this thing called epigenetics so the it has the
• 76:30 - 77:00 genomic sequencing that says I'm not going to express this so we can now stress that and block the the the block and it now expresses something on its surface that our tea cells can recognize so that's the first step smoke it out smoke it out but your body has mechanisms to smoke it out it gets even more complicated your body has a thing where you can induce what we call damps which is damage Associated molecular patterns but forget
• 77:00 - 77:30 that it's a way of actually smoking it out so now your tea cells can recognize it okay so now you've done step one that's just step one that's one molecule so this is why I think the FDA needs to understand we're fighting a war where you need Battlefield awareness all simultaneously where you have to orchestrate your Marines your army your Navy Air Force all in the right place so that you can use the tumor in your body to act as a weapon as the vaccine
• 77:30 - 78:00 because a tumor has molecules that is forign to the rest of your body and if you educate your tea cells to recognize those molecules that is far to the rest of your body that t- cell can remember now you have a memory t- cell so for the first time in 2024 in our package insert we have a molecule called the BIOS shield now I'll call it the BIOS Shield that can activate the natural killer cell activate the killer tea cell and drive memory tea cells we now have
• 78:00 - 78:30 bladder cancer patients would have lost their bladder in complete remission for 9 years and still alive and so the protocol is you lowd dose you administer low dose chemo to identify where the tumor is you smoke it out you smoke it out but the same time you need to have the natural Kil cells and tea cells ready so you give them the BIOS Shield that upregulates and stimulates your natural killer cells and te cells what about radiation does that play a role
• 78:30 - 79:00 that will kill your natural Kil cells and T cells so now unless and this is comes unless today the radiation is what they call 70 gbits G huge doses unless you give a tiny little dose just to the tumor nowh else to smoke it out so you use radiation in a very different way called sprt a low to identify rather than destroy to expose rather than expose so the algorithm is expose from
• 79:00 - 79:30 hide to expose the next algorithm is activate and proliferate your enk cells and that's with the subcutaneous injection the next algorithm is to educate your te- cells with a vaccine that you anticipate that it's going to be exposed so you now have educated te- cells ready so you got educated te cells you got in Cas cells and the next thing is to activate your macrofagos so they become
• 79:30 - 80:00 Killer macrofagos and the next step is to suppress the suppressors you do that all simultaneously how much human suffering is involved in this there's a lot in a conventional course of cancer therapy all as an outpatient we've done hundreds of patients now so you're not so someone taking this course is not going to is he going to lose his hair throw up patient no what's even more exciting because
• 80:00 - 80:30 that matters for cancer patients I me it's hard to be a cancer patient it's horrible yeah but we've now seen patients now in complete remission more importantly I want to treat patients before they need surgery so I can use the tum itself in the body as the vaccine to educate the body and the tea cells all about that tumor what's even more exciting now we can take blood from you one pint and extract the natural killer cell
• 80:30 - 81:00 in the T cell and grow billions and store in cry preservation just like you do um from Cord Blood we now have the ability to grow these natural killer cells and give it to anybody so I always said for the first time we could become the American Red Cross of cancer our country and use these Innovations as
• 81:00 - 81:30 foreign policy so could um looking back do you think it was unwise to require the population to get the fizer and madna V it depends on the time I think it's unwise to keep on giving this nonsense I shouldn't say that I should be careful when I call it nonsense the idea to getting an antibody vaccine and then creting another antibody vaccine and
• 81:30 - 82:00 another antibody vaccine that chases your tail I don't know what that's doing those Spike proteins it's not ridding your body of Co though it's not is it is it creating even more variants in your body I don't know but is that possible I I see the the the the idea and I'm such a scientist I need to actually go and actually pull out these variants and sequencing them that's what we're doing now is it theoretically
• 82:00 - 82:30 possible it's theoretically possible could there be um any change to a person's DNA from taking well that's what this does it's what the Mna vaccines do correct it converts into DNA and it converts replicating and that's what it does and it it replicates an RNA virus it becomes it's the well as someone who's clearly you made reference to it a couple times interested in evolution um to change the DNA of a species is to change the species over time no I don't think it integrates I my concern is that
• 82:30 - 83:00 this virus is all about itself it very selfish virus selfish virus in fact the fact that it's now less deadly is in the virus's interest the virus doesn't want to kill you because you are the incubator think about that the virus wants you alive you're you're speaking in a way that suggests intent and forethought it's it's biology it's
• 83:00 - 83:30 Evolution everything is evolution was the intent to go from a tadpole to to human being I don't know but to consider the possibility you have something or the certainty that you have something within your body that is acting against your body's interest on purpose yeah because it needs you to be the incubator so you know the the the ver the the verocity uh um when it when it when it was so man-made so you know viral Evolution
• 83:30 - 84:00 when it what call M um Affinity maturation it matures itself so that it can be more infective that's one thing it tries to do is a virus I mean these viruses are living organisms and when I say living they don't have brains or anything that but they have Machinery that have very it's very sophisticated they what they call promoters and Etc why would you make something like that on purpose well well
• 84:00 - 84:30 there are viruses in nature of course which theoretically will go through what you call maturation that normally do not infect you they're not species they species specific exactly but why would you then change that and that's what this you know gain of function studies was so dangerous that's why it was prohibited it's so self-evident evil to even play with something like that with the potential consequences which we're now seeing 13-year-olds
• 84:30 - 85:00 getting pancreatic cancer like how could anyone do that and why aren't those people in prison well it was banned right it was banned in the United States yeah the Wuhan lab partnership well so we subverted it and now you talk about you know why I say so so few people could home home so many um how they got around that is for the investigators to find out but I mean you're someone who's created Cancer drugs who spent a lot of his life in a lab um that's why you're a
• 85:00 - 85:30 billionaire so you know a lot about this topic obviously and it's it's clear to you that that's that's just too dangerous to be doing that right yes to take animal viruses and make them you can't control it I mean because you've done Affinity maturation that would have taken tens of maybe millions of years in that fusion protein that creat created this fusion protein and created and then then they created this vaccine I think I think Barney graah was the the
• 85:30 - 86:00 part with Collins and everything else that was so proud to F will create this RBD and make it stable think about it the spearhead the trip of the spear that goes into your C we're going to make it stable that's how this vaccine was produced this was the amirani vaccine was produced so you've taken a virus that not gone from bats to man only because I think this G of function work you then created a vaccine by
• 86:00 - 86:30 taking the spearhead of this virus that is now being created to get into you and make the spearhead even more stable and put it on the vaccine and says here we go this seems super crazy so just from the perspective of a of a Layman again if I've never had covid and I get the MRA you know I get the fiser vaccine mRNA vaccine if I got it 3 years ago can you detect Co in my body now possibly see that's like that's just
• 86:30 - 87:00 crazy town look I know of a I won't name her but she was a very senior person at the FDA and she just got the vaccine that's it and within weeks she got brain fog loss of memory so this clear evidence that sometimes the vaccine effect is the cause and sometimes the the virus is the
• 87:00 - 87:30 cause so that's what I'm saying it's but it's not it's not mutually exclusive I understand and it's and it's but it's all about the spike but it's but the idea that you would be introducing the covid virus into a body that was not infected by the covid virus is like you went after the wrong protein basically I've been I've been begging them to go after the nuclear capsid protein because the nuclear capsure protein which is in the core of the V of the of the virus is not the tip of the spear and if you have
• 87:30 - 88:00 a t- cell it lasts for 17 years we know that from previous Co infections yes but they refuse to do it it seems like a human tragedy at like an unimaginable scale completely it devastates me uh well that's incredibly bracing and I think you're one of the very few people I've ever met who has absolute authority to speak on this and yet you you've you've not been encouraged to
• 88:00 - 88:30 speak about it it sounds like I've not been what encouraged to speak about it yeah because I'm not a political person and I have this bigger picture that we have to find a solution not just for covid but for cancer and the irony is that bi Shield works for both and the only chance they're connected it sounds like completely connected and the only chance we have now because I had no idea that
• 88:30 - 89:00 the political deep state was so powerful and so vicious and so egotistical that they would stop good science so now I'm out out there speaking because the drug got approved but that's not enough just for bladder cancer it has the same treatment effect for pancreatic cancer lung cancer triple NE breast cancer it is the only
• 89:00 - 89:30 molecule for 50 years that upregulates these killer cells period The Missing Link well you never got Co so that's you really never got Co never got Co how many people do you know who didn't get Co well the president United States got Co like four times so if you did get Co there's three antigens in the virus there's a spike there's a nuclear capsid and there's a thing called the the M protein M and and if you have when you do your
• 89:30 - 90:00 blood test you can see if you have the M protein if you have the M protein in your uh antibody or T cell or antibody to the m protein that means it came from the from the virus if you have no M protein it came from somewhere else could come from the vaccine I have no impr protein and I have t- cells to n and have t- cells to S so you could
• 90:00 - 90:30 basically lick a park bench and not get sick no it doesn't exactly so now you need to differentiate and not conflate the ability of the virus to infect it could still infect me but my body has the protection the BIOS Shield to clear it immediately within seven days clear it is this a lifelong protection well based on the science of the what they call Ms one where it was in 17 years is
• 90:30 - 91:00 the is is protection that was the original coronavirus outbreak correct 17 years as nuclear te- cells is out there so I'll take that I'll take 17 exactly and you can get a booster now what we're working on is a universal Co virus vaccine for all Corona virus is because it's in so what we did oh that's a good segue to that so during my genomic sequencing I was building the whole machine Learning supercomputing Network and I ran the national Lambda rail full of gods
• 91:00 - 91:30 particle and I built supercomputers and AI way before a AI was and I presented the AI model to President Obama believe not in the one pager for healthcare so our supercomputer we combined ourselves with Microsoft we so with it we had the largest GPU Cloud during Co and we were able then to actually look at the infectivity of every species every uh variant of covid with every human type there's a thing called HLA so
• 91:30 - 92:00 that we could actually look at how the virus would change and Avid the te- cells the only thing that it could never do was change the nuclear capsid and never could void the te- cells we made that software public it is still public and published it so that anybody could test based on your HLA your HLA and my HLA type would be slightly different this hundreds and thousands of HLA types and know whether this sequence if you had that
• 92:00 - 92:30 sequence in your body would be protective through that we are developing what we call a universal covid vaccine bios Shield t- cell vaccine and we have it but how do we do it you know so one of my thoughts was just to give it away to somebody I actually offered to give it away to regeneran and amen way back but they were too busy everybody was too busy during the co time so one
• 92:30 - 93:00 of the ideas now was for me to actually go to the serum Institute in India and say yeah please go go build this and Mak us available to the world so you know there just so much we could do as an organization we're tiny little biotech company um relative to the MK and the fisers but that's what my goal is my personal goal is when you say I'm still doing it I don't have a Vineyard the the the the resources that
• 93:00 - 93:30 was given to me as like God's gift I I believe uh that allowed me to do this so you know we have hundreds of employees 40 acres of land in Los Angeles the other tragedy was I took over this facility in dunk a that New York state had put $200 million in completely empty brand new amazing facility for National preparedness and I called Chuck Schumer to help me make that available for the
• 93:30 - 94:00 country nothing it's still sitting there available for the country as a national preparedness manufacturing site in dunker New York for which we put $50 million in but there's no employees in there right now nothing that's crazy it is really ridiculous right without leadership without skill sets in leadership and without informed leadership how we as a country could go down the wrong path and I'm so
• 94:00 - 94:30 hopeful that these next four years could change that so this has been an amazing story you're obviously uh very famous in the medical research World um and controversial but I'm I'm I'm sold on what you said so everything that you've done is you know you'll have a great obit because of it then you decide by the LA Times in 2018 is yeah and you know owning a the main newspaper in the
• 94:30 - 95:00 country second biggest town makes you obviously a media Mogul but it makes you a political figure as well in La is so compli like why would you do so why would you you don't need that why would you do that well I think it it really helps to know how I grew up right so I grew up in South Africa as a poate i because South Africa didn't have I did not see a TV until the age of t 21 believe it or not no TV no TV South Africa didn't have TV so not that I didn't watch period Al so it was just
• 95:00 - 95:30 books and newspapers that was the only way I got educated books and newspapers to the extent that I would go every day uh as a newspaper boy to the printing press in Port Elizabeth sit at the printing press get the first one off the press read it and then run with about two 300 papers throughout the city that would be what I did and grew up so I fell in love with the printing press the clicky clack of the and the oil and the smell and when the opportunity came
• 95:30 - 96:00 remember as I said I had this amazing gift of the resources of selling these two companies that I never anticipated in life uh with Michael phoh saying he took over this company calling named a trunk and he was going to shut down the Washington Bureau and move all of so he owned the LA T he own he owned the the Tribune actually the whole thing yeah at that point yeah Chicago Tribune the
• 96:00 - 96:30 Tribune company the whole tribun company which included LA Times and San Diego tribun and he knew how desperately I wanted the LA Times um because I had help him invest to to buy the rest of the tribun I was a minority shoulder then and he came to me and said hey Patrick you want it here's the price you've got 48 hours to decide and it's $500 million no due diligence no due diligence that's was it and I who would take that deal only
• 96:30 - 97:00 crazy people yes it's half a billion dollars and you can't see the books yeah nor can you go visit The Newsroom because on Monday we're going to actually shut all that and move them all out and I don't want you to talk to these people and you have until Monday to decide and I was running a conference in LA um with all my scientists and the National Cancer Institute and all the scientists were there at this hotel and I said oh my God so I went upstairs and
• 97:00 - 97:30 we got a private room and I brought all the people into the room and I said I want to do it and I called my wife I said we want to do this I think this is an opportunity for us to have a a voice for the people especially if they're going to shut down Washington they're going to shut down La we'll never have a paper here this one of the most important things so by Monday I signed it and that was it and then and you paid him $500 million $500 million how grateful was he
• 97:30 - 98:00 very sorry I'm sorry to laugh if you hadn't made so much money I wouldn't be laughing because it would be mean but that's incredible so Phil ANS s me I've got some stuff I like to sell you is that oh so pH an saw me at the next Laker game he says you know Patrick I always thought you're such a smart guy until yesterday but you know I have no regrets I think what I did then was said okay I'm going
• 98:00 - 98:30 to take everything I know in healthcare that rocket ship that I showed you and and then create because during that time Bezos would have this Arc it had the software and he had the Washington Post and he his team came to see me and said listen we've got this Arc software that we want you to run I said no I don't like this old software I'm going to go build a completely new software content management system that could take podcast video live streaming uh because I want this
• 98:30 - 99:00 newspaper to be an educational moment for people and at the end of the day a newspaper is not just a newspaper it's a basis of Engagement I want to engage use this as a tool to engage with people because that's how I grew up so we took the risk and we built this content management system took us 5 years and we launched it and which could talk to the the printing press and it talk to magazines it could talk to podcast it talk to video talk to live streaming and now it's just gone live
• 99:00 - 99:30 it's called LA Times studio and LA Times live and the next thing we're going to do is called LA Times next and the LA Times next um and a Gentleman called Eric Beach and I are forming so that we could create a platform that would allow voices to be heard and Free Speech to be heard unencumbered by by either opinion or news so now we have three platforms we have a platform of news which supposedly is facts we a platform of opinion which
• 99:30 - 100:00 have now changed to voices meaning everybody should have a voice whether your right voice left voice Central voice do you like Coca-Cola pepsicola whatever voice and then a complete platform that allows free speech um and video podcast and now I have that platform and we've built the infrastructure to accommodate that platform and I'm excited by other times
• 100:00 - 100:30 next because we're going to have a studio in uh DC we have a studio in La we may have studio in Nashville and shows like this are important because I believe long forms like this is how you communicate for people who are interested um and it could be fun it should be engaging it should be interesting and that's why I bought the paper well those are great reasons as far as I'm concerned but they come with
• 100:30 - 101:00 them the purchase comes with it a you know a lot of people who work at the paper um I've worked in newsrooms like well my whole life and I know that they hate change they hate they hate the owner no matter what everybody hates the owner just on principle um there are a ton of unhappy people in journalism I would say the overwhelming majority just for whatever reason we could speculate and they're very hard to manage and they're roughly about a 100 or maybe even more percent uh left wi everywhere
• 101:00 - 101:30 including at you know supposedly conservative places that all lefties so how do you deal with that by being honest and transparent and head on um and I I openly shared with them I said listen we cannot be Echo Cham I won't tolerate it it's okay if you're left wing but you need rightwing so I offered Scott Jennings an opportunity to rise um uh on the paper and I said we need all voices and so I said listen I don't
• 101:30 - 102:00 know who made these rules CU I came into this newspaper I don't know the difference between a columnist and oped editorial page and and and news and now when you're merging all of these can you imagine the lay person not really understanding the difference that's right and I want you to say news is news and you The Newsroom fine theoretically everything's edited you've checked you fact checked it but when it comes to an opinion I want to change that to call be
• 102:00 - 102:30 voices and I want all voices to be heard all American voices to be heard and you know the Kamala Harris um endorsement I took a lot of heat because the editorial board resigned by my taking a stand that we cannot be an echo chamber of opinions not based on facts so just for those who didn't follow and it was quite a story uh for a couple days there it was during the campaign the editorial board correct me if I'm
• 102:30 - 103:00 wrong wanted to endorse kamla Harris and you said no what did they say to you and what did you say back to them well I can't put in oh come on you've gone pretty far already I can just say they were not happy but what was their pitch like so so so the pitch was we as a board have met and we have this prepackage we know this is outrageous blah blah blah this prepackage what does
• 103:00 - 103:30 that mean we had a prepackage endorsement what do you mean prepack they already written they already written it after talking to K Harris never having met her they never met KL Harris never met him isn't the editorial board supposed to interview the candidates by the way the editorial board never met even I'm on the editorial board so I said I'm Harris was in LA all the time correct so in your neighborhood actually corre raising money raising money keeping the traffic in trouble raising money um and
• 103:30 - 104:00 that's and I never matter and nor the board ever matter and I said this is unacceptable and they know they as you could see because it's a left leaning they wrote terrible stories um about President Trump which is had they met him not met him either so my statement to them was listen you may have an opinion but all of us should have opinion based on facts I mean one of the statements that came and I won't name him came from a person that
• 104:00 - 104:30 said within this concept that vice president Kamal Harris was the most consequential vice president The History of the United States so I said no I I shouldn't lie I don't mean to be uh dismissive what on What basis did the person say that having never met her and what so now exactly you just hit it on the head and I said on what basis do we say that what are the facts can we actually show the the record of that so I said you know it
• 104:30 - 105:00 boil down to look we're not going to do that we're just not going to do it what did the person say when you asked on why are you saying she's most consequential Vice President of the United States like what what are the facts that underly that judgment I obviously I disagreed with that person and there had no basis for that other than you know as you said a person personal Echo chamber here you know and look I think I don't know what they're trying to protect they're trying to
• 105:00 - 105:30 Pro in if I try to find I'm trying to find the kernel of basis the audience because the audience is left so they need to be left I don't think that's right I think I meaning our audience we lost a lot of viewers right I mean yeah thousands of people unsubscribed but I don't think it's right that we should be this caning Society I think we should be a society that can have a civil discourse like we're having now and disagree it's okay
• 105:30 - 106:00 uh and understand each other's point of view that's what I think is a value of the paper when you talk about voices so that's what I'm instigating now and so I've taken the opportunity let go back to the Comm thing really quick so were they they were shocked that you canceled that they were worse than shock they resigned they resigned so I had three right now 90% of my editorial rep is resigned so where did they go cuz there are no editorial writing jobs left in the I have no idea oh so look I think
• 106:00 - 106:30 it's important look I the fact they had the courage to resign some of them now Kevin mured I fired I fired Kevin before they resigned um why did you fire him one because of leadership two because of I got to be careful I don't want to disparage him I I I fight him because I didn't believe he was the right person or of
• 106:30 - 107:00 creating taking the paper where it needs to be he was formally at the Washington Post Washington Post yeah I remember that well and um and then after that episode The editorial board the rest of them resigned and now we're rebuilding look we have to we have to and what's exciting to me is I'm rebuilding with young people um and what's exciting to me is this opportunity with LA Times next and LA Times studio and then The Newsroom Terry Tang is doing a fantastic
• 107:00 - 107:30 job she's she's she's working hard um to take on the the people in the productivity the productivity well increasing productivity oh you're employing journalists okay so that's a world I understand yes there are some productivity issues there yeah yeah yeah yeah when you write one slug a month I I think that's not going to be good been there been there yeah so so it's it's been an
• 107:30 - 108:00 experience but look we we there in for the Long Haul I think um and look it's just not us by the way we got to save these local newspapers I agree right we got to save uh the ability to have local discour now with the ear fires it's even more important right look I called out Karen bass and Gavin yum and these politicians you know them both I know them both I text with them both and I complain to them both and what I tell the public is what I tell them so I don't say anything behind
• 108:00 - 108:30 their back I personally say I said you're not doing the right thing whether it be the homelessness the homelessness they did a terrible job yes a completely wasteful job so these are the kinds of things that I think it gave us the opportunity to have a say in our community you know and that's what I'll continue to do now will'll position ourselves in DC and I think the next four years will be really I hopefully Monumental dror thank you for spending
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