EJ vs. EP (INTP)

Summary

The video explores the differences between EJs (Extraverted Judgers) and EPs (Extraverted Perceivers) within the MBTI typology framework. EJs excel at managing external tasks but often lack self-identity clarity, while EPs have strong self-awareness yet struggle with purpose. The creator underscores the importance of distinguishing between discomfort and actual weaknesses in these types. The discussion also highlights how life focuses shift with age, and touches on the elusive yet impactful nature of ENFJs.

Highlights

• EJs may know how to operate in the world but often struggle with self-identity. 🤔
• EPs, in contrast, understand themselves well but often question what to do with that identity. 🌍
• The distinction between being uncomfortable with something and it being a weakness is crucial! 💡
• Judgers may begin to branch out as they age, while perceivers tend to focus in. 🌱
• ENFJs are among the most elusive and high-impact types, sparking curiosity and study. 🔍

Key Takeaways

• EJs (Extraverted Judgers) know how to navigate the world with confidence but often lack a clear understanding of their own identity. 🤔
• EPs (Extraverted Perceivers) possess a strong sense of self but frequently struggle with deciding their purpose or place in the world. 🌍
• There's a common misconception that something disliked is a weakness, which is not necessarily true. 💡
• The video explores how different personality types handle identity and direction, contrasting EJs with EPs. 🔄
• Age seems to influence whether judgers focus in or perceivers expand out, indicating a fascinating inversion in life priorities. 🌱

Overview

In the world of personality types, specifically within the MBTI framework, EJs and EPs exhibit unique characteristics. EJs are quite adept at figuring out external tasks and how to effectively manage the world around them. However, what they often lack is a deep understanding of their own identity, leading to existential questions about their true selves. Conversely, EPs are characterized by their strong self-awareness, but struggle with finding their place or purpose in the grand scheme of things.

A fascinating distinction is drawn between the discomfort with an aspect of one's personality and an actual weakness. It’s a crucial point that just because an element of personality makes one uneasy, doesn’t inherently mean it's a personal flaw. This concept plays out prominently when analyzing and differentiating various MBTI types, especially when typing individuals or observing behavioral patterns.

Moreover, an intriguing pattern is observed in how individuals' life focuses transform as they age. Whereas EJs may begin to explore outward more as they grow older, perceivers, in contrast, tend to hone in on specific interests or areas. This dynamic adds a layer of complexity to understanding personality development and typology, sparking curiosity especially about elusive types like the ENFJ, who seem to embody high-impact potential but remain difficult to define without direct interaction.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction and Video Purpose The chapter introduces the purpose of the video, thanking patrons and Fiverr customers for their support. It invites viewers to subscribe to their Patreon for exclusive behind-the-scenes content. The speakers mention they are starting the video late and are quite exhausted. They hint at discussing typology topics and reference the accuracy of a prediction made by a 'deranged INFJ' about conflict.
• 00:30 - 01:00: Conflict and Typology This chapter explores the personality type of Tony Soprano, specifically debating the notion of him being an ESTP. The author expresses frustration in understanding this characterization of Soprano, hinting at a deeper investigation into typology and personality assessments. The goal seems to be to unravel misconceptions and to provide clarity on the topic of personality types in the context of fictional characters like Tony Soprano.
• 01:00 - 01:30: Differentiating EJS and EPS In this chapter, the discussion centers around finding methods to differentiate between EJS and EPS, particularly when traditional explanations and typologies are insufficient. The text suggests a new approach that simplifies the distinction, aiming to address misconceptions and enhance understanding.
• 01:30 - 02:00: TI as an Identity Function In this chapter, the focus is on the concept of 'TI as an Identity Function' within the context of psychological and type theory. The realization that TI (an abbreviation likely related to a psychological or personality theory concept, perhaps 'thinking-intuition' or 'introverted thinking', depending on context) functions as an identity has changed how types are evaluated. Beyond identifying the judging functions (such as thinking, feeling, judging, perceiving), it is important to consider where identity manifests within a person's stack or type profile. This includes taking note of perceivers and their alignment in the identity framework.
• 02:00 - 02:30: Identifying Weaknesses in Types This chapter discusses how certain personality types, such as ESTPs, have a strong sense of identity despite misconceptions about them. ESTPs possess a good understanding of who they are because their auxiliary function, Introverted Thinking (TI), helps them analyze their identity and actions effectively. The chapter challenges the notion that individuals who dislike self-analysis or changing their behavior lack self-awareness.
• 02:30 - 03:00: EPs' Challenge with Action This chapter highlights a critical distinction relevant for EPs (Extraverted Perceivers) and IPs (Introverted Perceivers). It emphasizes that having self-awareness and understanding one's identity does not necessarily lead to taking productive action or making changes. On the contrary, the discussion suggests that members of these personality types might be less inclined to take action towards change despite knowing their personal identities. This insight is particularly focused on those with introverted judging functions, suggesting a need for further exploration of motivators and barriers to change within these groups.
• 03:00 - 03:30: EJs' Challenge with Identity In 'EJs' Challenge with Identity,' the discussion explores how individuals with a strong sense of identity, identified as 'EJs,' use their understanding of self as a tool, making them less inclined to change. The chapter suggests that because their identity is robust and well-established, it's harder to identify weaknesses in their identity. When assessing such individuals, it is crucial to focus on their vulnerabilities, though these are less likely to be related to their sense of identity.
• 03:30 - 04:00: TE vs. FE Understanding The chapter 'TE vs. FE Understanding' explores the concept of personal preferences and how they relate to perceived weaknesses. It emphasizes the distinction between disliking something and it actually being a weakness. Specifically, for EPs, their challenge is not in understanding who they are but in determining what actions to take.
• 04:00 - 04:30: Judging and Perceiving Functions The chapter explores the dynamics of judging and perceiving functions, focusing on identity functions in different personality types. It highlights the differences in long-term self-awareness and operational behaviors between EP (Extraverted Perceiving) and EJ (Extraverted Judging) types. Specifically, EPs may struggle with defining their long-term goals and identity, while EJs, who have their identity functions less pronounced, focus more on mastering operational efficiency and actions. The text suggests that while EPs need to understand themselves better, EJs have a clearer grasp on their actions and methods.
• 04:30 - 05:00: EPs and Slotting into Life The chapter discusses how individuals with extroverted judging functions, particularly those with high TE (Extraverted Thinking), operate in social environments. It notes that while those with TE are skilled at social performance, there is a distinction between TE and FE (Extraverted Feeling). TE individuals excel in structured social settings while FE users are more intuitive and smooth operators in social gatherings.
• 05:00 - 05:30: EJs Knowing Where to Fit This chapter explores the dynamics between TE (Thinking Extroverted) and FE (Feeling Extroverted) in terms of social adaptation and performance. It discusses how FE individuals naturally understand and move with people's emotions, while TE individuals operate more from learned scripts. When TE is developed, especially if it's high in one's cognitive stack, it becomes proficient at following scripts and adapting on the fly. However, it lacks the intuitive insight into emotions that FE naturally possesses.
• 05:30 - 06:00: Patterns in Life between Types Some personality types, particularly those with introverted judging functions placed to the rear, struggle with forming a solid sense of identity. Their understanding of who they are my be weak or easily influenced.
• 06:00 - 06:30: Charity Work and Type Patterns The chapter discusses how to effectively communicate with judging personalities, specifically INFJs and INTJs, by targeting their introverted judging function. It highlights the touchiness of INFJs and the seemingly annoying behavior of INTJs. Both types have their identities closely aligned with their judgments, offering them a chance at building a firm sense of self.
• 06:30 - 07:00: Curiosity about ENFJs The chapter explores the traits of ENFJs, particularly focusing on their cognitive functions and how these influence their behavior. It is discussed that ENFJs have a perceptive function that is not as dominant or strong as perceivers, but it is significant enough to influence their actions. Their perceptive function sits in a tertiary position, providing relief and presence in their personality. This function is contrasted with Extroverted Judging functions in other types, which can easily suppress certain traits. The analysis reveals how the configuration of these cognitive functions shapes the ENFJ identity and their interaction with the world.
• 07:00 - 07:30: Conclusion and Summary The chapter addresses the concept of using dominant traits like Extraverted Thinking (TE) or Extraverted Feeling (FE) as a 'bulldozer' to navigate the world, often at the expense of self-awareness. Individuals may hide behind these traits, using them to deflect issues instead of facing personal identity challenges. The summary suggests that reliance on such traits can lead to avoiding deeper self-reflection and personal growth.

EJ vs. EP (INTP) Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 What's going on, boys? Thanks to our patrons and Fiverr customers. Subscribe to our Patreon free for behind the scenes stuff. Arm yourselves typology stuff. I think this is going to be a relatively quick one. Not the video we planned, but we're starting very late and we're dead men walking. And that deranged INFJ has been proven right yet again in that conflict is in fact the
• 00:30 - 01:00 key to anything worthwhile. Months ago, this [ __ ] [ __ ] tried to tell me Tony Soprano is not just not an FI inferior, but specifically an ESTP. And that was so frustratingly stupid. I needed to figure something out. If the traditional
• 01:00 - 01:30 explanations and expectations of understanding typology didn't work, what else can we do? Both to prove the [ __ ] [ __ ] wrong and to make differentiating these types easier. And I think I've found the easiest way to differentiate EJS and EPS. And to a lesser extent, this is
• 01:30 - 02:00 going to apply to JS and IPS. Now that realizing TI is an identity function thing changed the game because now we aren't or when we're evaluating types we are not just looking for which judging functions are where we also know to look for where an identity is in a stack in a person in a type. perceivers, including perceivers you
• 02:00 - 02:30 think would not have a clear idea of who they are, what their identity is, like ESTPs, do in fact have good ideas of who they are. Even the most hating analyzing themselves or changing their actions, ESTPs know who they are because TI is their auxiliary function. Or in other words, their identity is close to the
• 02:30 - 03:00 front. And we need to make an important distinction here. Having an idea, a solid grasp on who you are and what you are has nothing to do with doing anything about it, doing anything productive about it, or changing at all. In fact, I think the opposite is going to be most likely with EPs and IPs. anyone with their introverted judging
• 03:00 - 03:30 function, their identity function closer to the front because their identity as it is is a tool for them. Meaning it's because they have such a strong grasp on it, they won't want to change. It's solid. It's cemented. And in my experience, when you're trying to type someone, you look for their weaknesses. So, you aren't going to find identity weaknesses in perceivers. And again, I
• 03:30 - 04:00 think that's hard for people to wrap their minds around because if they see something and they don't like it, they're going to assume their distaste for it means it's a weakness. And it's not. It's something you don't like. Now, specifically for EPs, their weakness is going to be what to do with themselves. They know who they are. That's not the problem. It's what to do
• 04:00 - 04:30 with who they are, especially in the long long term. They don't need to figure themselves out. They need to figure out what they're going to do. And with EPs, that's a weakness. with EJ's, people with their identity functions in the very back. It's the opposite. They're going to have what they're doing and how to operate locked down. They know how to operate. They know how to
• 04:30 - 05:00 work the world. Their extroverted judging functions are toward the front or at the front if we're talking about EJ specifically. And quick reminder, high TE is good at performing socially. Even TE inferior has an idea of how to perform socially. It's different from FE. In social settings, FE is much more of a smooth operator, an intuitive operator, because it's working on the
• 05:00 - 05:30 fly according to other people's emotions, the signals they are emitting. But TE understands how to perform too. However, it's operating from scripts. But when you take TE and train it if it's lower or it's going to learn naturally if it's in the if it's higher in the stack, it's going to be good with scripts, including on the fly, but it won't have FE's intuitive understanding
• 05:30 - 06:00 its flexibility. an EJ's weakness or an IG's weakness to any type with their introverted judging function toward the rear. Their weakness or their problem is going to be their identity. They don't have themselves figured out. They don't know who or what they are. Or they might have an idea of it, but it's shaky and it's not that hard to push over. When you want to [ __ ]
• 06:00 - 06:30 with a judger, where do you hit them? You hit them in their introverted judging function. It's one of the reasons INFJs are so touchy. Something we've learned. INTJs, too. But where INFJs are touchy, INTJs are [ __ ] and annoying because in both their cases, their identities are close enough to the front. They have a shot at establishing a solid
• 06:30 - 07:00 identity, but they are not strong enough to to have it unlock the way perceivers do. That's why they are the way they are. Additionally, it's close enough to the front and it's in their tertiary spot. It's their relief function. they can't repress it versus EJs who very well can because their judging function, their extroverted judging function is at
• 07:00 - 07:30 the very front. That thing, whether it's TE or FE, is such a bulldozer in the world, they can hide their lack of self-nowledge behind it and hope they never need to to deal with it. Or when there are flare-ups, instead of training their identities, they'll sick FE or TE on the offending thing, the thing that
• 07:30 - 08:00 is getting uncomfortably close to hitting them where they are weakest. So with EJ's, they're going to have a very poor idea of who they are. What are Tony Soprano's two core identifying questions. Who am I? Where am I going? Not what should I do. And with EPs, that
• 08:00 - 08:30 what should I do question affects the intuitive EPS as well. SI and NI are very different functions. But another thing we're learning about typology is these axis functions although they operate or function very differently the roles they fill in people's lives are very similar. So TI and FI identity SI and
• 08:30 - 09:00 NI direction and not just you know literal direction where you're going but how you fit into everything where you should be in everything. Why are EPs all over the place? because they have a very solid idea of the way the puzzle piece they are is shaped, but no conception or no
• 09:00 - 09:30 easy conception of where they're supposed to fit themselves versus EJs. They know exactly where to fit themselves, but they don't know they don't know what it means to be slotted in this place. They don't know who they are or where they're going. EP says, "Where am I supposed to slot in?" EJ says, "What does it mean that I am slotted in here?" And I'm still playing
• 09:30 - 10:00 with this idea, but I think there is an interesting inversion in life between judggers and perceivers in or as their lives play out. As perceivers get older, they seem to focus in. Whereas as judgers get older, they start trying to branch out. And that's certainly not a hard and fast rule, but it's a pattern I've been noticing. I work in fufu
• 10:00 - 10:30 charity. Whom whomstitted do you expect to be working in charities? I don't know about you, but when I went in, I was expecting mostly young feelely perceivers with some feelely judges in there, but that's not the case. You do see a fair number of them, but they cycle in and cycle out. There's no stick
• 10:30 - 11:00 tuitiveness. They're all over the place. The people who get into charity and stick with it in my experience are older PE judgers. They are trying to be in touch with themselves the only way they know how, which is applying TE vigorously versus the younger TE perceivers and all the other sorts of
• 11:00 - 11:30 perceivers. They aren't trying to get in touch with themselves. They're trying to find a place for themselves. They already know who they are. It's suitcase hippies versus career monks. And my curiosity in all this about ENFJs is growing. They're very tricky. I think some of the potentially highest impact types in existence, but for some reason
• 11:30 - 12:00 in my life they are elusive and or but between studying INFJs and ENTJs and the more auxiliary stuff we learn like the TI being an identity function thing or now this deepening our understandings of EJs versus EPs in the ways they deal with
• 12:00 - 12:30 identity. We are triangulating what an ENFJ's soul might look like without really dealing with them directly. And I am very curious. But anyway, to prevent this going on too long, you get the idea. EP knows very well what it is, but doesn't know where to put itself. EJ knows exactly where to put itself, but doesn't know what it is or what it means to be. And there is a distinction
• 12:30 - 13:00 between you're not liking something and something's being a weakness. Like if you enjoyed, subscribe if you haven't.