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Summary
In this Personality Hacker podcast episode, hosts Joel Mark Witt and Antonia Dodge dive into the intricacies of the ENTP personality type. They discuss common struggles faced by ENTPs, such as boredom and maintaining focus, and provide strategies for overcoming these challenges. The episode emphasizes the importance of honing the 'accuracy' cognitive function for ENTPs, involving radical honesty, introspection, and optimizing life decisions. Personal anecdotes illustrate how radical honesty helped Antonia gain personal freedom and self-awareness. Throughout the podcast, the hosts encourage ENTPs to embrace their entrepreneurial spirit while valuing introspection to lead satisfying and authentic lives.
Highlights
ENTPs often face challenges with boredom and maintaining focus, but applying 'accuracy' and radical honesty can help. 🙌
Navigating relationships through 'harmony' can be tricky, but it's crucial for ENTPs to foster meaningful connections. 💬
ANTP's personal journey illustrates the powerful impact of radical honesty and introspection. 🌱
Pursuing entrepreneurial paths can offer ENTPs a fulfilling way to harness their innovative tendencies. 🚀
The podcast emphasizes unique developmental journeys tailored to each personality type, promoting personal growth. 🌐
Key Takeaways
Focus on radical honesty; it's essential for personal growth and self-awareness 🚀.
Embrace entrepreneurial opportunities that match your innovative spirit 🌟.
Avoid boredom by engaging in novel and challenging projects 🛠️.
Develop the discipline of 'accuracy' for better decision-making and honesty 🧠.
Value deep, quality connections over a large quantity of superficial ones ❤️.
Overview
The latest episode of Personality Hacker explores the intriguing world of ENTPs, known for their quick wit and innovation but also their struggle with staying focused. The hosts break down the complexity of the ENTP personality, emphasizing the critical cognitive function of 'accuracy.' Through engaging discussions, they suggest practical methods for ENTPs to overcome mundane routines and stay inspired.
Listeners get to hear Antonia's personal stories, illustrating how embracing radical honesty led her to a path of self-discovery and personal freedom. These anecdotes serve as strong examples of how ENTPs can leverage introspection to understand their core truths and optimize their life paths.
The episode wraps up with a focus on personal development, stressing the importance of deep connections over superficial relationships for ENTPs. By valuing introspection and honesty, ENTPs can lead fulfilling lives that align with their values and innovative nature. Join the hosts as they encourage listeners to explore their own depth and potential.
Chapters
00:00 - 00:30: Introduction The chapter titled 'Introduction' begins with hosts Joel Mark Witt and Antonio Dodge introducing themselves as part of the Personality Hacker podcast. They mention that they are continuing their series on the Myers-Briggs personality types. In this episode, they focus on the INTP personality type, which they refer to as the 'Exploration Accuracy' personality within their Genius System framework. The chapter teases a discussion by raising a question related to a previous episode on the ENFP personality type, indicating a thematic continuity across episodes about different personality types.
00:30 - 05:00: INTP Analysis The chapter titled 'INTP Analysis' centers around the speaker's apprehension about discussing topics related to ENTPs on a podcast. The concern stems from the belief that other NTP personalities, like ENTPs, are more focused on accuracy and scrutinize details thoroughly. In contrast, the speaker notes that ENFPs tend to grasp the overall message rather than getting bogged down by minute details, suggesting they are less 'persnickety'. The speaker debates whether INTPs are similarly focused on specifics, particularly data precision.
05:00 - 10:00: ENTP Challenges The chapter 'ENTP Challenges' explores the interaction of ENTPs with the INTPs, especially those with an understanding of Myers-Briggs cognitive functions. It discusses how ENTPs seek new insights and connections during conversations. They carefully observe for accurate information, yet can focus on any deviations if the information is not presented in a particular manner. This behavior stems from their desire to find leverage points for insight.
10:00 - 15:00: Cognitive Functions Overview The chapter provides an informal discussion on cognitive functions, specifically comparing the perspectives and insecurities of an ENFP and an INTP. The speaker openly admits to speculating on the reasons behind their feelings, highlighting differences in cognitive perception between the two personality types. Despite the initial nervousness, there is a sense of optimism as they express a belief that they will manage the situation well.
15:00 - 30:00: Radical Honesty and Accuracy The narrator expresses a deep concern about projecting their own self-image onto their perceptions of others, specifically citing the example of typing sessions where they feared doing this with INTJs and now worries about doing it with INTPs, with whom they identify personally. The underlying theme revolves around the challenge of maintaining radical honesty and accuracy in self-assessment and understanding of others.
30:00 - 50:00: Modesty and Acceptance This chapter explores the challenges in distinguishing between personality types, specifically E and CP, alongside INTP and other types. The discussion also touches on the possibility of characteristics being unique to an individual rather than linked to personality types. The narrative humorously acknowledges the role of external insight from another person to navigate these complexities. The chapter also mentions utilizing surveys to understand these distinctions better, illustrating the approach taken to improve introspective understanding.
50:00 - 60:00: Memory and Aspirational Aspects The chapter 'Memory and Aspirational Aspects' delves into the intriguing responses received from a survey among ent peas. The presenter shares a personal enthusiasm, highlighting how individuals are drawn to consuming content related to their personality type with heightened interest, akin to a sense of 'type patriotism.' This reflects the broader theme of the chapter, focusing on how personal relevance can significantly influence our engagement with content.
60:00 - 67:00: Conclusion and Resources The final chapter titled 'Conclusion and Resources' touches upon personal growth and understanding one's personality type. The narrator reflects on how some common issues related to their personality type no longer affect them, while others resonate deeply, highlighting shared experiences. Despite initial nervousness, they express gratitude for participating in the podcast, appreciating the opportunity to connect with peers who share similar struggles and insights. The chapter encapsulates a journey of self-discovery and community learning, ending with a sense of appreciation and understanding among like-minded individuals.
ENTP Personality Type Advice Transcription
00:00 - 00:30 [Music] and welcome back to the personality hacker podcast my name is Joel mark Witt and I'm Antonio Dodge today we are continuing our series where we deep dive into every one of the myers-briggs personality types and today we're talking about the intp in the myers-briggs system which in our genius system in the person that hacker system is the exploration accuracy personality yeah I have a question for you all yes when we did ENFP why were you as
00:30 - 01:00 intimidated by doing the ENFP podcast as I am by doing the entp podcast because you are an entp and you know other ntps that are listening are more they're gonna be focused on that accuracy process they're gonna pinpoint you on every little tiny nuance that you say or enfps are more like yeah I get the gist of what you're saying I get I resonate with that I can get that they're not as they're not spur snicky in my mind do you think so I actually don't the Gihon two peas are persnickety while they're persnickety on data I think they're personally on like the specifics of what
01:00 - 01:30 you say especially if they know especially if you're an INTP who understands myers-briggs and you've been around the community you understand cognitive functions you understand how things work like you're looking for new insight new and you know this is an entp you know that the interview listening is looking for new connections and so they're going to be watching for all the accurate pieces you're bringing to the table we're bringing the table and anything that's out of line they might be like if you're trying to get the gist of something and you don't say it in a particular way I think they might latch on to that because they're really trying to find the leverage point of insight
01:30 - 02:00 here this is what my perspective is I have nuclei I'm pulling this out of my butt completely I do not know this to be true but this is my speculation of why you're more insecure more nervous about it than I am on the ENFP side yeah I hadn't consciously thought of all of it or any of that I just thought of it just now so I mean you've just added more actually I think we're gonna be ok on that I think we might be ok on that I think so too yeah I think I'm nervous because I am an intp and clean data is
02:00 - 02:30 really important to me and my biggest fear is that I'm going to be superimposing my image of myself on to the type like last week when we did an TJ's I was so scared that I was going to superimpose is the image of my brother who was a very influential person in my life unto my concept of INTJs yeah and now I'm really worried that I'm going to do the same thing with myself and Ian tepees in particular because I am an INTP like this is my entire experience and so it's
02:30 - 03:00 become very difficult to fillet out the difference or the differences between E and CP Antonio dodge and INTP and everybody else like what if one of the things that I'm talking about is has nothing to do with type and has everything to do with just me well that's why you have a brilliant in handsome man across from you that can help you know deal with this does that that is true and also we were smart and sent out a survey and so like my first days are better well your first answer
03:00 - 03:30 is very relevant and I like your first answer better too but we sent out a survey to ent peas and what we got back was really intriguing to me I actually think that I ate up the answers for E and CP faster or the TP survey answers much faster than I did any of the other types like I just consumed them so quickly and that's what we do right like if it's our type we have type patriotism it's super fascinating to us so that's you know we all just if we have a book on type we immediately flip to the
03:30 - 04:00 chapter on our type yeah and so I just ate them up and there were a couple of things that I noticed were not issues I dealt with anymore that seemed to be issues that are very common to other people of the type and then there were other things that people said that I was like that is so dead on that is exactly what I'm experiencing so I've been nervous about this podcast and at the same time I'm actually really glad to be doing it I'm so grateful to be able to get to know fellow ENC peas and the things that they're struggling with the
04:00 - 04:30 challenges they're facing and the ways that they see themselves and to be able to really understand that there are there is a sense of simpatico here and then on the other side that I've been able to figure some stuff out that I'm really grateful to be able to share with other people of my type so I was really nervous about this one but I don't I don't think I was nervous now those surveys really helped me out a lot and I think I'm just I think I'm excited I think I'm ready to go cool well let's let's dig right in here let's start talking about we're gonna talk about some of the survey results
04:30 - 05:00 but let's just frame out for you if you're a new listener if you're an intp listening we want to talk about the wiring of your mind really quickly and just illustrate to you how your mind is learning information and making decisions a lot of times we're talking about personality type or you're reading it online people are talking about behaviors they're talking about tendencies they're talking about those four dichotomies that E and T P and they don't really dig into what those mean those are really designed to be a decoder ring for how your mind is wired how you're learning information hire
05:00 - 05:30 make decisions as an entp we have a car model we use if you go to our website you can Google or Google search car model on our web site and you can get an article that will illustrate this for you visually but we use a car model and we use this car model to illustrate where the mental processes in your mind sit in a vehicle like a car illustration for use in entp your primary mental process the technical name is a cognitive function is called extraverted
05:30 - 06:00 intuition that's its technical name we've nicknamed it exploration and it's it's a learning process it's a perceiving process it's how you learn and move through the world and perceive the world that you're in as an entp it's all about finding connections between disparate things in the outside world by messing with them by pushing the buttons by messing with people by figuring out patterns and connections in the outside world by manipulating things and seeing
06:00 - 06:30 okay I see this is connected to this this is a connection here and the patterns start to emerge in the outside world externally when you move through perceiving the world this way yeah we decided to call exploration because people who use this type this is a flow state for them and they get into flow when they are making connections between things that other people believe are disparate and so novelty becomes very important to them it's all about exploring new territories finding out and discovering things that nobody else
06:30 - 07:00 has discovered before that's very satisfying to people who lead with this process so exploration we believe is aptly because it is about exploring we oftentimes say it's like six-foot tall grass and you've got a machete in your hand and you are there to blaze a trail it's very much about what if possibility is thinking and it really is advance pattern recognition so you you end up seeing things that other people miss and you end up making connections that other people would never have thought to make yeah and and if you are an INTP and you
07:00 - 07:30 leave with this process this is a this is a flow state for you you've been using this exploration your whole life you probably have a lot of things that catch your fancy catch your attention you like to do new and novel things and my guess is that because of this process the wrote the mundane the the just the basic going through the grind of life can get very boring very quickly for you it's tough to sustain things that require lots of paperwork and triplicate forms and all this like basic stuff that
07:30 - 08:00 we have to deal with in life right the infrastructure of life that we have to deal with auntie peas are excited about finding the possibilities I can Tony just said they're excited about finding an Tony when you show up somewhere you often will you'll brake systems on / not break them but you'll you'll mess with them on purpose to see how how they can be entertaining or how you can find a new pattern in something that's like tried-and-true reinventing the wheel is something intps love to do metaphorically speaking it's it's something that they will do over and over again to find the patterns in in how things are done in the world and and
08:00 - 08:30 see if they can find ways to do them better they're really interested in optimizing things for the better yeah it's a very optimistic process exploration is and one of the things that came out in the survey over and over again was this concept of getting bored easily and I don't even think it's necessarily yes you're right absolutely it is when you have to deal with anything in triplicate form like the phrase triplicate form will make me break out in hives when I just think about it so absolutely that is a piece
08:30 - 09:00 of it but I don't even think it's necessarily things that are you so infrastructural I think it's also anytime you think you figured out something you're ready to move on to the next thing and so what ends up happening is that everything requires like in order to actually produce something in order to get return on investment you have to follow something through to the end and a major issue that a lot of a NCP's deal with is that they get about you know they get about 80 percent of the way
09:00 - 09:30 through with a project and they're out because 80 percent was a struggle for them to get to like it wasn't like they got to 80 percent and got bored they probably got bored at like 40 percent and they pushed themselves to get to 80 percent and then they were just done and could not stand it anymore so that last 20% was there's no way that they were gonna be able to get to it and unfortunately that means that it's not uncommon for other people to finish an intp project for them and then that
09:30 - 10:00 other person gets to get the return on investment they get to get the rewards and so a lot of UNCP's find themselves jumping from project to project and never actually making any traction they might not get the amount of money that they deserve with the work that they put into a project up front if they haven't set up conditions where that was part of the agreement which is that I'll help set you up and then I go and you finish it up and then I get a percentage so if they haven't had enough self-awareness around this if they haven't been able to build systems that account for this
10:00 - 10:30 knowledge of themselves that they're gonna get bored and have to move on then a lot of times they feel like they just can't make any traction in life they cannot figure out what they're supposed to be doing they can't choose one thing to do they can't figure out a direction in life and that can get really frustrating what's and the challenge too is and you've used as illustration other things we've we've taught and talked about when when an intp comes into a new situation it's exciting to learn about it it's exciting to master that new situation that new tool that new job let's say
10:30 - 11:00 you're hired on as an entp in a new job role something you've not done before the first six months is exciting because you're learning new things you're becoming competent at your job you're outperforming the others around you and you're looked at is wow this this person this entp has it together they are on the stick they are organized they're competent they're just mastering their craft and about the six-month mark and you've seen this in your jobs right in Tony it like you've had in the past the six-month mark comes in you're like I'm really getting bored now I've mastered
11:00 - 11:30 everything I can master here I don't see much more progression of what I can learn and I'm gonna just start dialing it in and so what happens is you get excited and you you impress the people around you but for you it's like this just isn't the thing I want to be doing anymore and you start to lose interest very quick yeah you go from rising star to C player really quick and sometimes do you player like you're just after if I've had a job and I don't mean like a career or owned a business and been entrepreneurial or like my current
11:30 - 12:00 passion right I actually don't feel like I'm in a passion position right now I feel like I'm on purpose which is really satisfying I highly recommend it to anybody especially NCP's since we're talking about them right now but when I just had jobs and I just got like hired by people it didn't matter how mundane the job was I was pretty excited at first to figure out at least how it worked and operated in that particular office or that particular context or situation it was interesting to me until I figured it out and I frequently was looked at as a rising star and then that that moment
12:00 - 12:30 would hit where I'd be like yeah I think I've pretty much figured out this I mean maybe I haven't like perfectly mastered every component to it but I pretty much figured out how it works and instantly like I'm like oh I can't get up for work in the morning yo you know or get up in the morning to get to work like that just sounds like the worst thing in the world to me because there's nothing exciting or new and I've run on that I run on novelty I run on something that's exciting and new and I think that that is very common thing for a ntps so I would say that a major struggle that entp face is this idea of how do I
12:30 - 13:00 stick with something that is boring me to tears how do I stick with something that I've just stopped and making love to it I was making love to it when I was figuring it out it was an idea that I thought was wonderful it was a concept that I thought was wonderful a project or whatever and I'm just done making love to it and I'm ready to hit the next mistress the next progress mistress or whatever you want to call it and one of the one of the things that hasn't super resonated with me in a long time was this concept of boredom I saw that come up in the survey over and over again I deal with boredom I deal with boredom
13:00 - 13:30 and I was like why don't I deal with boredom as much and I realized it was two things number one I had the I don't know what you were gonna call it like the pleasure or displeasure or whatever of being put in insanely boring context my entire life when I was a kid I was I was born into an a deeply religious family and my father was a leader in this particular religious affiliation and so he had to
13:30 - 14:00 do a lot of meetings where we basically went to you know like these churches and in the churches I wasn't really allowed to bring any sort of secular material so I couldn't bring a book to read or whatever so I would be sitting there while he was having like a meeting with all these other church leaders and I would just be sitting there like for hours like literally hours on end I would just be sitting there and not knowing what to do like bored out of my brains this little kid and so what I started to do is I is I began creating
14:00 - 14:30 games in my brain like in my head like I knew I couldn't do anything outside like I of course I would do the first the first thing I would do is like explore every square inch of that particular building but once that had happened her if it was a building I was already familiar with I would just start looking for patterns in the outside world if there was a hung ceiling I would try to find different textures in the hung ceiling tiles or I would try to count all of the lightbulbs or all of the lights or something or whatever it was try to figure out the different fabrics of the carpet I know that that sounds horrifying and it truly was but that was what I was relegated to I know that's
14:30 - 15:00 wrong I know I'm just imagining I have done the same thing I've kind of light bulbs and churches before but I was so bored I just imagining I'm actually having this memory right now as you're talking about this right because you had a very similar upbringing yeah right so we I mean like almost exact same totally different religions very similar experiences and if I ran out of those then I would just start I would start simulating you know conversations in my head or I would start creating puzzles in my brain or I would do Tetris in my
15:00 - 15:30 head or something like I would I was always I was required to figure out some sort of interesting outlet and I found myself in a lot of other boring contexts where I will read literally anything that's near me I will read shampoo bottles I will read I'll read anything like I have almost memorized the backs of like aerosol cans and sprays like there warning labels I almost have that memorized cuz I've read those so many times because I will literally pick up anything to read it and that was how I dealt with boredom now there's two styles of Borno
15:30 - 16:00 they're sitting around doing nothing boredom where you can make up a game and then there's the kind of boredom that comes within like a manual task that requires enough mental real estate so that you can't focus on something out you can't you know you can't daydream you can't focus on something else you can't turn something into a game you have to actually be focused on it but it's super repetitive and so those those are easily the worst they are the worst of all tasks and I've recognized that one of the things that I've done in those situations and I don't do very
16:00 - 16:30 many of those anymore I have I have effectively constructed a life in which I do everything I can to avoid those situations and that is a major thing that you can do as an entp is you can work really hard to construct a life where you don't have to do that anymore and it definitely took me 32 years to get there but I eventually did but what I do in those situations is when I have to be there is I focus on autonomy mastery and purpose now Daniel pink wrote a book called
16:30 - 17:00 Drive and he mentioned that people are aren't really very motivated by carrots or sticks like that is an old style of motivation what they're more motivated by is autonomy mastery and purpose so I even took you know turn those repetitive tasks into a game of optimization I make them as high quality as I possibly can I turn it into a game of speed or I turn it into a game of quality or whatever like how can I game the system as much as possible and that's how I get myself through those situations and I think one
17:00 - 17:30 of the reasons why I do that is because I cease to rely on that driver process of exploration and I start really focusing on my copilot process of what's called introverted thinking or what we call accuracy yeah you know this idea of gamifying things I bet resonates with you as an entp if you're listening you probably have been a game or at least been attracted to games of some sort in your life potentially some people aren't but as an entp I would I would venture to say you're probably tracted to a game
17:30 - 18:00 because that secondary process that copilot of accuracy the technical name is introverted thinking is all about what makes sense in your mind the logical connections of your mind the precision and the accuracy optimization of your mental processes and so as you go through the world and your and this is a decision-making process this is how you decide what to do each day what to do in the world what to do with the decisions you're faced with that exploration process is how you learn informations how you perceive the world and then it kicks it over to your
18:00 - 18:30 accuracy process and says okay what are we gonna do about this information we have now and then accuracy process ask the question well what makes sense to do what makes sense to me in my brain to make the decision to do this or not do this is this make sense to do this does not make sense to do this and that's really the criteria the the basic stripped-down criteria that accuracy is using to move through the world and I think that that brings with it this idea and this notion of wanting to be precise wanting to optimize every experience
18:30 - 19:00 that you're you're in and and I think this leads to that that idea of boredom if you don't have the ability to optimize and the ability for mastery purpose and was the the autonomy autonomy thank you if you don't have the ability for that I think you you feel stuck and you feel like you just you're you're bored out of your mind like you want to be able to optimize me something comes up for you a lot it is when you sit down with our three-year-old Piper and she wants to color show up in a coloring book and she'll say okay mommy you color this page and I'll color this
19:00 - 19:30 page so you sit down okay I'm gonna be mom I'm gonna sit down color the page you'll start coloring this happens to me too but I think it frustrates you way more than it frustrates me you'll be coloring on the one page the right page for example and she'll reach over answer no no and she'll start coloring over top of what you're trying to do and you're being very precise you're using your accuracy process your I mean on a very basic level but you're you're wanting to color inside the lines you want to make it beautiful optimize the way the colors interplay with each other and you're getting very foot you're starting to focus and you're starting to really get into what you're doing you're getting
19:30 - 20:00 into a little bit of a flow state and just coloring with your daughter but here she comes over and gums up the works by starting to mark over your page she removes the ability for you to have autonomy mastery and purpose over a coloring page and that sounds ridiculous if you're listening you need to be what does it matter about a coloring page but this extends to you and your job this extends to you and your relationship this extends to you in your community and with your friends if you don't feel like you have autonomy mastery and purpose over the things you're doing that means you can't optimize that experience the nth degree to the degree you want to with that accuracy process and it
20:00 - 20:30 becomes extremely frustrating for you and I think that frustration can often show up as boredom but I bet if you have autonomy mastery and purpose as an INTP that starts to get less boring fatigue starts to increase the excitement and the engagement you have and that's why that's six month job thing - you're getting to create mastery autonomy and purpose when you're learning a new job at the end of six months you don't have it so much because now it's rote again yeah I would say that that is a fantastic illustration which is you know coloring the strawberry shortcake
20:30 - 21:00 coloring book and I'm there like figuring out different color textures and I'm coloring multiple colors over and if she just just one little it could even even even be in the corner of the page if she marks it up even on the corner I'm done I'm like I'm out so one of the things I've had to do is be very clear with her if you want mommy to color you're not gonna touch my page like that's just how it is and and she might feel like you know like maybe I don't know maybe that sounds like I'm limiting her ability to self express by
21:00 - 21:30 coloring over my page and maybe that's true but if she wants me coloring with her those those are the parameters and I think that's something that's really important for an intp to recognize is that if you feel like you're stripped of power to be able to optimize like Joel just mentioned if you think that you're on the receive like like somebody's gonna come in and muck it up like you've just done this gorgeous thing you've just made this beautiful precision I don't know process or you've taken
21:30 - 22:00 maybe your graphic artist and like you just made this gorgeous you know like piece of art or whatever it is and I don't even know what the context might be for you but you have made this beautiful work of art and either somebody doesn't appreciate it which of course will kill you more than anything else like lack of appreciation for this amazing optimization is definitely something that hits at the soul of an entp but even if it's not a lack of appreciation if somebody just comes in and like messes with it you're out you're like I'm done no you just
22:00 - 22:30 nope you're way out of here and if you're in a job context where a person keeps doing that to you that will become just intolerable very quickly and like you said Joel you can apply that to any situation any situation in which an entp feels disempowered to believe their mark where they feel disempowered to make something like optimized or achieve something really awesome it's gonna be very frustrating for the NCP and I think that's why ATP's have a
22:30 - 23:00 tendency to be entrepreneurial because they recognize this in themselves they know that they're their self starters at the beginning and they know they have a tendency to flame out quick and so that's entrepreneurial like get it going quickly like get it going early get everybody excited about the idea and then once you do that then you hand it over to somebody else to finish it up and also if you're an entrepreneur that means that you have full autonomy over how this thing is happening and you gain mastery along the way and you know a bunch of stuff will be thrown at you and
23:00 - 23:30 you'll have to figure it out it will always be interesting even if it's stressful even if it's high-stress it will always at least be interesting and you'll be in control of it and so I think that's why NCP's I believe statistically of all the types are the high are the most likely to become entrepreneurs because of that piece right there and I do recommend it if you are all in a context in which you can be entrepreneurial or even what we call what is it called intrapreneurial yeah you want to describe or explain what entrepreneurial is it's it's it's
23:30 - 24:00 basically being entrepreneurial inside of a company so you you can you have space to create and to be creative and create either a business line or some type of a business structure or a product or service inside of the company using their resources so you have to go to a bank get a loan the company may own it but you get to be more creative and be more you have autonomy mastery and purpose over your your destiny and that's really what we're talking about is whether it's inside a company with that autonomy mastery and purpose or outside of a company as an entrepreneur it's the intrapreneur or entrepreneur that we're talking about here yeah and I
24:00 - 24:30 highly recommend that if you can go talk to the people like if you have a day job if you basically work for a company go talk to the people that you work for and say how do I become entrepreneurial if you can't have that kind of conversation with the people you work with that might be a sign in and of itself honestly and and I I mean here at personality hacker we're trying so hard to empower people to have the life that they want and so we're not I'm not really okay with a NCP's being stuck in dead-end jobs and I understand that context-dependent you might feel
24:30 - 25:00 that you really have no options but you're in the NCP if you think you run out of options you're probably depressed so keep searching options keep looking for ways that you can bring your best gifts forward in that way so so accuracy is your co-pilot in your car and we're gonna go over to the other backseat functions in a minute but I want to make a quick note and a quick comment about that accuracy process one of the one of the things that you can do is in INTP to improve that accuracy process and we're gonna come back to this again and again we're gonna keep talking about that accuracy process because this is a
25:00 - 25:30 leverage point for you as an entp is to begin studying and practicing what we call radical honesty there is a book by Brad Blanton that actually is called radical honesty and he lays out a framework for your life that you can adopt as an intp you don't have to adopt it fully but there are elements in there and some frameworks he talks about to show up to the world being radically honest with the people in your life now this is this can be a challenge for using HP because when you show up radically honest people are not used to
25:30 - 26:00 others in the world being honest with them if you as simple exercises to go through your day and ask everybody you come in contact with and you do this probably on a regular basis how you doing today and most people say I'm doing great or I'm I'm fine I'm good it's very rare you'll run into somebody that's radically honest with you saying I'm actually having a terrible day my kid just threw up on me this morning my husband is about ready to leave me I'm stressed I just got a car you know like last week my car's in the shop and I've got credit card debt and I feel terrible and I just want to go home and watch soap operas and sleep I don't know what
26:00 - 26:30 else to do like I'm so depressed I don't what to do like nobody's gonna tell you that during the day because we don't tell each other that kind of stuff but something it's practicing radical honesty would tell somebody whatever's going on for them it was appropriate context in in a space that that makes sense now that's just a daily social level what happens if you're talking to a boss or your spouse and you're having marital problems or you know bringing radical honesty to that conversation can be very challenging for both of you especially if you're not used to this in your life so radical honesty is a
26:30 - 27:00 leverage point for you as an entp I'm so glad you brought up the discipline of radical honesty because it's so easy to as an intp it's so easy to get in a habit of looking for approval from other people and the reason why is the 10-year old position that sits right behind the copilot in the car model or what's technically called the tertiary in your cognitive function stack is extraverted feeling or
27:00 - 27:30 what we've nicknamed harmony and harmony is all about making connections with other people it's all about understanding the social dynamics the interplay between people how we're impacting each other on an emotional level and so connectivity becomes really important to harmony and in fact in the survey that we got back and this is one of the answers we got back that I totally resonate with an tepees mentioned that they had a struggle with connection in fact just this last weekend I ran into another INTP woman
27:30 - 28:00 which is a very rare occurrence for me and I asked her what do you think is the biggest struggle that you've experienced throughout your life and she says she said connectivity she said when I connect with people I connect fast and it gets intimate really quick but I connect with so few people and and I would agree with that I would say that connectivity true authentic connectivity has been a struggle so an intp that doesn't have enough connections in their life like that true feeling of connectivity you may start to become a
28:00 - 28:30 bit of a people pleaser now that might seem like a weird thing to say about teepees because they're not known to be people pleasers and yet they can sometimes try to find the most acceptable way of speaking going about things beliefs things that won't exactly you know mess with the equilibrium of whatever social dynamic they're in in order to maintain the connections that they have what radical honesty does is it forces them out of thinking in terms
28:30 - 29:00 of being socially acceptable to other people it requires them to not just be thinking about other people's feelings but actually what makes intellectual and analytical sense to them and that means that they're going to ruffle a few thousand the feathers in fact when an intp and I don't mean when an intp is a dick okay I'm not talking about when they're like being a jerk to somebody else that's um that's just the messing with somebody on an on a pure exploration level which is never okay but when they're being really
29:00 - 29:30 honest with themselves and what's great about the discipline of introverted thinking or excuse me the discipline of radical honesty when they're using their introverted thinking or accuracy process what's great about that is Brad Blanton mentions that radical honesty quote-unquote starts at home like as in you're trying to root out your own cognitive biases you're trying to figure out where you're lying to yourself it's not just a matter of like always saying exactly what's happening in your day when somebody says hey how you doing like you don't have to go through a laundry list of everything that's
29:30 - 30:00 happened in your day it's a discipline that teaches you to be honest with yourself first and if you've been shining it on if you've been acting like everything's okay when it's not and I mean about deep profound things belief systems paradigms a toxic relationship that you continue to like agree with when you actually don't your inner wisdom is telling you not to be agreeable in this relationship to call it and say no it's not okay for you to treat me like that or it's not okay for you to be toxic in this
30:00 - 30:30 situation I don't actually believe this belief system that everybody around me does but if I say that they're gonna boot me from the tribe quote-unquote those are the levels of radical honesty that you need to get to as an intp and we can do that what you'll find is that you are bringing your authentic self forward so that when you have connectivity yeah it might not be as often because you're not being as quote-unquote agreeable but when you find somebody that connects with you it goes intimate real quick like you have
30:30 - 31:00 that super satisfying connection and it does mean that you're going to be less acceptable to a larger group of people but you'll have quality relationships not just quantity of relationships it's actually very similar piece of advice that we give to enfjs focus on quality connections quality intimacy over quantity and for an entp I mean people don't know this about ATP's but they're actually they actually really do care about other people's feelings like if somebody's really mad at you that impacts you as an entp if you think your
31:00 - 31:30 reputations on the line if you think a group of people doesn't like you that can be a struggle it really can and if you if people don't like you and you're receiving that feedback because you've legitimately done things that caused people not to like you in like like you've been acting like a dick like we just mentioned then that's feedback you should be getting and going home maybe I should calibrate to that maybe we should have recognized that I'm not allowed to be say unkind to other people I'm not allowed to be a jerk however if you are being kind if you're coming from a place
31:30 - 32:00 of true radical honesty if you're coming from a place of actual accurate expression right like not just messing with people or being a jerk but actually like this is the kindness you bring to the world is by pointing out things that other people may have trouble accepting and people don't like you that much if you fully develop and rest into the accuracy process you'll be able to make peace with it you'll be okay you'll go but this is what I'm here to say and I'm sorry that it's not acceptable to you but this is the thing you need to hear
32:00 - 32:30 and I don't just mean like you look fat in that dress I'm not talking about that kind of stuff that level of radical honesty I'm talking about like here are profound truths that people are ignoring on a huge like scalably bad way like if everybody buys this like think there's new clothes type stuff right exactly like like at what level do we make it not okay to be anti science right and I'm saying this is my own personal radical honesty not everybody's okay with these positions that I have like there's a lot of people even our
32:30 - 33:00 listeners a lot of our listeners are people who might hold what I would call anti science beliefs and they might be right I don't know but it seems to be very it doesn't seem to make sense to me at all and so for me I'm not okay when people take positions that I would call anti science not simply like broadening the scope of what could be right like accepting science and then going yeah but then there also might be more stuff out there I mean like definitively like every piece of scientific evidence we get points this direction and you were
33:00 - 33:30 simply saying well my paradigm doesn't a lot you know align to that so I'm just not gonna accept it right like I'm just gonna pretend like scientists all have an agenda or something like at what level do we go it's not acceptable to be anti science and it's actually hurt us hurting us all to be that way so that would be my radical honesty not acceptable there's probably somebody right now who's offended by that who's never gonna listen to our podcast again and yet that's my radical honesty so I have to rest into it that's part of my message is that me being a dick I don't think so I think that's me just saying my radical honesty and when an intp
33:30 - 34:00 rests into that then they have the confidence to be able to show up in a way that might be unacceptable to somebody else but they know it's not based on unkindness it's based on the position of radical honesty that what they're here to say and then when they do form again when they form those connections with people they know it's based on a foundation of truth not a foundation of shining it on for your life as an entp you I mean I know the answer to this but what was one of those periods of time when you you had to say
34:00 - 34:30 here's the radical honesty for me it wasn't so much about showing other people what was the right you know like what you thought was accurate for them it was that because it starts with you internally as an intp right like you had to come to a point where you're like I'm not gonna lie to myself anymore I refuse to play any social games to any lying games myself I have to be rational and I've got to make sense to myself and you had a period of time in your life this happened totally so I've mentioned it before another podcasts there was a time
34:30 - 35:00 period I grew up in a very strong religious paradigm my parents are deeply religious and I think I I spent the majority of my twenties trying to like reconcile the fact that I didn't believe it anymore couldn't even acknowledge that initially couldn't acknowledge that I didn't believe it anymore what I what I think I like the language I used was well maybe I don't fit here like where's my place here and I kept going on this spiritual journey this
35:00 - 35:30 religious journey of where do I fit in this paradigm and is there a place for me and then eventually it got to a point where I realized no I just don't believe it but the consequences meant that because it is deeply religious and it's one of those paradigms that requires everybody to buy in otherwise you are seen as dangerous I knew that if I didn't buy it anymore if I left I was going to lose basically every connection I had every person that meant something to me because it was all connected to
35:30 - 36:00 this paradigm I was going to lose everybody and so my radical honesty took years years to get to and when I got to that point where I said I don't I don't believe it anymore I was right my prediction was accurate I pretty much lost everybody in my life and it was worth it to you I mean I'm genuinely asked his question is not a rhetorical question was it worth it to you to be radically honest with yourself even though everybody you've ever loved said we don't anything to do with you anymore I mean like
36:00 - 36:30 really you lost everything for that is it worth it I the pain of cognitive dissonance within myself was ten times worse than the pain of my parents telling me that they no longer want to have a relationship with me and so that may have been one of the biggest pain points of my entire life was losing my closest relationships losing my parents losing my entire extended family beyond my parents that may have been the most painful thing
36:30 - 37:00 that I ever went through and the reason why I did is because the pain of cognitive dissonance was greater than that what did you gain from that decision like you you got rid of a feeling of the icky feelings of cognitive dissonance but what did you get as a result of really unit of accuracy process and saying no this is what makes sense to me as a person I gained myself I got myself back cognitive dissonance was robbing me of who I was and so what I got back was me
37:00 - 37:30 like I was able to be Who I am now I'm able to speak my truth I'm able to speak my honesty which I don't believe is empirical I don't think my honesty is empirical I don't think that I know empirical truth and always in fact I don't think I know anything empirically and at the same time I was able to get myself back and there's a phrase that I heard one time that really struck with me and that is no matter where you go
37:30 - 38:00 there you are hmm so the one thing I couldn't get away from was my own my own thickness and I don't mean thick like I was showed up as me like the fat you know like the pillars of who I am I was showed it like like I'm not unrecognizable by any stretch of the imagination I still show up like I enjoy the same stuff you know like the the things that I was watching 15 years ago still I'm you know I still watch them now and the music I enjoyed then I still
38:00 - 38:30 enjoy now so it's not like I went through such a massive you know rehabilitation that I'm no longer recognizable from that other person but what I didn't have before was the ability that when I saw something was wrong or struck me wrong I didn't have the ability to point it out without without fear and now I have no fear like I am able to point out whatever I want to point out I am able to speak a truth that I was never able to speak before
38:30 - 39:00 and the consequence is like like you you really can't do anything to me at this point like yeah okay you could you like a person could take my life or you know beat the hell out of me and put me in the hospital like absolutely there's there's definitely things that people could do to me that would be very undesirable for sure but on AIM on a mimetic level on a psychological level like you really can't do anything to a person that's worse than removing every loved one from their life like that's pretty much as low as it gets the worst
39:00 - 39:30 has happened for you then in that the worst has happened so at this point there's really nothing I fear saying like I and because of that there is this extraordinary freedom I have there's no prisons I feel no mimetic prisons anymore and yeah I still want to approach people meet them where they're at speak things with kindness I want to not you know like I don't really feel any need to like slap other people in the face with harsh truths like I don't really feel that that's effective I want to continue
39:30 - 40:00 to be a kind person I think that's one of the gifts that that harmony ten-year-old really provides and gives to me is the desire to be kind but I have no fear like I'll I'll tell anybody anything that I think needs to be said and so I gained me back that's what I gained what I gained was that ability to be out of a mental prison which was simply a acceptable to me before you know when you talk about how you're not much different now than you were then as far as like how you show up to the world
40:00 - 40:30 like your accuracy process has always been a part of you you've always thought in terms of what makes sense to me but but the word that you used earlier and I want to highlight this because I think this is this could be glossed over for you as an entp listening Antoni used the word discipline and she referenced it according to the accuracy process her copilot or her auxiliary function her cognitive function and the reason why I say I highlight that word discipline and discipline you know gets a bad rap here sometimes when we think about this one like I doing things you don't want to do sometimes like disciplining yourself to
40:30 - 41:00 do things but what she's talking about is the difference between skill and talent she had a natural talent for being able to see what's accurate what makes sense for her but she had never I'm guessing that when you started to really focus on the discipline of that secondary process that copilot process you started to really focus on okay I already have a natural talent for this but I need to actually work on this I need to spend time really thinking about the discipline of radical honesty the
41:00 - 41:30 discipline of of speaking my internal accurate truth and not give people what they want to hear not try to candy-coat a friend one but speak that and just speaking in a very unemotional place and disciplining yourself to do that led you to those decisions but that discipline was what was key and I don't think it's a matter of just making internal sense for yourself as an entp I think it's really focusing in a disciplined way on that accuracy process the other thing that I did at that time was I started studying formal logic and formal logic
41:30 - 42:00 has been as great a tool for me as radical honesty radical honesty got me to a place where I could accept that the changes I needed to make in my life formal logic helped me develop an ability to focus and really know what it what I wanted to be studying as my science of choice now I use the word science loosely because it's hard to see personality psychology and models of human development as a hard science
42:00 - 42:30 which I don't really think it is I think it's more of a philosophy but it's my science of choice I use science in the same way that a lot of you know authenticity people might use the word art it's my science of choice and the more sided formal logic the better I got at being able to understand concepts on a very surgical level like when somebody gives me a piece of information or they give like maybe they're in an argument or they're trying to understand something one of
42:30 - 43:00 the gifts that I think all ntps have really and it's and if they build the skill they can get I mean they just get world-class at this they have the ability to see like the difference between two concepts that the other person may have conflated they understand how those two things are actually separate they they bring a surgical component two thoughts ideas and concepts the better you get at disciplines or schools of thought like
43:00 - 43:30 formal logic and math this is probably one of the reasons why we talk about math so much with ntps I'm not into math when I talk about NC B's being into math I you more use it in sort of a gross sort of language of the digital I just have to be math I don't dig math personally but I do love formal logic and I love those you know disciplines like that and what you do when you bring that digital component is you bring the ability to understand what other people have gotten hazy and so the more I dug into that for myself the more I was able
43:30 - 44:00 to understand where I had conflated things like maybe I wanted to see something but I had a limiting belief around it that had nothing to do with my desire but for some reason you know that whole neurons that fire together wire together somehow they had gotten wired together at some point in my life and I was able to go I actually think that those are two different things like my fear around this has nothing to do with this it has to do with something else that my brain just made a connection with and so I got really clear on what
44:00 - 44:30 it was I brought to the world I got really clear on what I wanted to do I got really clear on the concepts around it my dad I started to get much better like I got much clearer in my articulation in my coaching and my writing in podcasts I became a much better interpreter of my thoughts and so I I can't I cannot express any I mean like with with any
44:30 - 45:00 more passion how important it is for a NCP's to develop that copilot of accuracy we say this all the time with all of the types it's the sweet spot of personal development it is your leverage point and maybe this podcast needed me to bring the personal element into it in order to really express a personal story of how powerful this can be no matter what type you are you as the listener I cannot express enough how important it is and how powerful it is to develop
45:00 - 45:30 that copilot there's so much about you that lives there and really needs to be discovered and really needs to be honed in order to figure out what it is that you bring to the planet what it is you bring the world even if that's even if that's not playing a big game and you don't want to like change the world and in need specific you know your your statue ends up in the middle of the city sort of way it doesn't have to look like that but who you are and what you bring so much undiscovered territory is in
45:30 - 46:00 that co-pilot and I know that because I first observed it in myself and then I started going hi I wonder if this is how it works for other people and then I just saw the pattern happening over and over and over again so that radical honesty disciplines like formal logic math if that's what you happen to be into you don't have to be but if that's what you happen to be into but whatever it is the ability to clean slice information and go real digital that's a major part of your gift and and who you are and what you want to bring to the world especially as an agency P most likely will be found there now I see
46:00 - 46:30 that as somebody who also has the philosophy that we are thoroughly monogamous with the things we want to do in life our passions one of the things we do is we overwhelm ourselves with this idea of like I have to find like the one thing I want to be doing in life the more I got into formal logic the more understood that I think just like we're certainly serially monogamous with our relationships throughout life we're certainly monogamous with our passions throughout life so I'm not gonna be doing personality hacker forever I'm totally fine with that and I know that this is the thing I should be
46:30 - 47:00 focused on and that was another thing I come up over and over again in the survey is it is trouble with focus like I love doing so many things I want my fingers in a lot of different pies I want to be doing so many different stuff you know styles of things and unfortunately happens with Ian peas and I think we even mention this on the ENFP podcast is that if you if you can't decide what you want to do amongst a hundred things if you can't choose just one then you actually will choose zero like choosing one is better than not choosing at all because not
47:00 - 47:30 choosing at all means that you're unconsciously choosing to do none of them so that became really clear to me and I went well I got to choose something and this is something I'm really into and I keep being interested in it so I think I'm gonna keep going down this road and then I'll just I'll just keep going down the road until it ends and then I'll jump on to whatever is the next train and I think for ent Peas when you have trouble with focus it usually means that you fear getting trapped into one you know you're on Rails now you're on you've got one line of sight and that's it and that's and
47:30 - 48:00 you're trapped and I would argue that that's less of a trap than choosing nothing the real trap is not allowing yourself any focus and choosing nothing and then not not truly not making any traction so again that copilot process seems to be just so powerful for all types but we're talking about NCP's right now and if you want an anecdotal experience as evidence not that that's real evidence by any stretch of the imagination but it can be compelling
48:00 - 48:30 then then my my story is evidence of that playing out so is you're talking about this like from the I want to talk about this accuracy process just a little bit more before we get to the very final piece of your car model is in the NTP and I want to ask you a question about this or at least have a quick conversation about this when I look at my co-pilot of authenticity one of the challenges there is I don't want to be seen as insincere like in sincerity is
48:30 - 49:00 very important like I don't come across insincere to people and one of my challenges in working on my authenticity is sometimes as I'm working on it I might look foolish or look insincere or something of this nature when mean to be and so I prevent myself from working on it because it brings up vulnerabilities for me as an entp my my view of this is that competency is very important for you as an INTP being competent in what you do with your accuracy process so you've learned
49:00 - 49:30 things in your life up till now that you're very competent at and in order to grow your accuracy process that introverted thinking part of you you're going to have to have a beginner's mind and not be as competent when you're starting down this road of building these disciplines of radical honesty building the discipline of getting into that accuracy process and asking yourself what makes actual logical sense so let's just have a quick conversation to the NTP listening that is fearing feeling that that that that feeling of
49:30 - 50:00 looking foolish because they have to go and start over again and some things they might not be as competent about the vulnerability there how have how do you have you seen other ntps I'm Nessa turning a little more interview you because you're the NTP in the group here but what is what do you think you could say or what could we both say to an intp that's looking at that accuracy process resisting that I don't want to look foolish I don't want to look like I'm incompetent at this I a part of me recognizes that there probably are n TPS with pretty big egos that don't want to
50:00 - 50:30 look incompetent into other people actually no I know that for a fact is when I was younger I can definitely put myself in that position of always wanting to seem like I I had it together like I was the know-it-all teacher who always knew the answer somebody would give me a piece of information and even if I had never actually read or studied that anywhere it would already sound familiar to me so I'd act like I already knew that even if I didn't so I think there definitely is ego around wanting to be smart competent capable I think for me what ended up happening was I
50:30 - 51:00 learned two things first of all I think NCP's are actually pretty okay at jumping into a skill like if you tell them that they need to develop something of all the types I think one of the things that NCP's really shine at is the ability to just jump in and go okay I need to go do that okay I'll go do it they don't fear discomfort nearly as much as the other types they do fear being seen foolish though or incompetent like you mentioned so so
51:00 - 51:30 it depends on the kind of skill we're talking about are we talking about the kind of skill where the entp needs to be uncomfortable in order to develop it I think they're fine there but if we're talking about the kind of skill that they need to develop which might make them seem incompetent in the beginning or look stupid maybe in front of other people right have to take that beginner's mind have to take out that student role something that helped me out a lot was understanding the concept of modesty now we probably have mentioned this in a
51:30 - 52:00 previous podcast I don't remember which one but modesty is different than humility and I think we tend to conflate these two concepts a lot and I also think that we use modesty in a kind of in a I don't know an old style parochial context like modesty seems to be like the way that I was always taught the concept of modesty was like modesty of dress like you you know you don't want to like be showing too much cleavage as a woman or something but modesty is actually not what it really is is it's
52:00 - 52:30 understanding your limitations and now humility could be more seen as like like you don't think you're better than anybody else a humble person doesn't think they're better than anybody else but modesty has no relationship to that it it has to do with really getting a grasp of your internal metrics modesty is understanding when you have a limitation but it also means that you have to recognize when you don't have a limitation like when you're when you're
52:30 - 53:00 good at something you get to acknowledge that a lot of times people have false humility in that if somebody goes are you really good at that they'll go oh no I'm okay right so I think that's why we attend to conflate those two concepts is that we become falsely immodest in order to maintain humility and I think if that's actually all just wrapped up an ego anyway and so whenever anybody behaves that way I know that there this is actually a source of ego for them I have to pause you just for a moment I
53:00 - 53:30 want I want the list were you listening I want you to pay attention to what and Tony just did she just use your accuracy process to clean slice to concepts that people conflate this what exactly what was talking about earlier that accuracy can do is this idea between modesty and humility most people conflate those two as she just cleaned sliced them into two very different things and illustrated them for us here which i think is the power of the accuracy bring to the table this is totally about something we talked about earlier but I want to illustrate uses an illustration of what we were referring to earlier about the ability to clean slice
53:30 - 54:00 concepts in your mind yeah yeah it's an INTP superpower if they choose to accept it intps gives you this really well - I think all the TP types are pretty good at this but when you when you combine the accuracy process with exploration or pattern recognition I think you're willing to use this in a more abstract setting then maybe STP sorry I think they do the same thing but they do it a little differently so so thank you for pointing that out actually I appreciate you pointing out an example of what I was referring to earlier so
54:00 - 54:30 back back to the topic absolutely so back to the topic the idea that you don't have to be falsely immodest means that you can accept compliments so much better and it also means that when you have an area where you don't have expertise where you might be more in competence you might be more of a beginner you're not as threatened by that because you didn't you know falsely
54:30 - 55:00 immodestly accepts an under valuing of something you were good at so you don't have to falsely inflate something you're poor at like like you you're not trying to compensate for when you didn't accept the compliment yeah because you accepted the compliment and said yeah I'm kind of badass at that aren't I so when you have to get into a beginner's mind you already have the confidence you've rested into because you were honest
55:00 - 55:30 about it you were radically honest the whole time and so now it's just a matter of like well that I'm just not good at that that's my truth right now that's my truth that's radically honest I'm kind of shitty at that so I need to get better or I don't care about that we were actually having a conversation I'm just totally tangent saying now I don't think that we're at all on a on a predictable blueprint of how we've done previous podcasts and maybe that's why we kept the NCP for last because we
55:30 - 56:00 knew we're gonna do this but we just had a conversation about the difference between respects and approval and I realized I would much rather have somebody's approval than their respects and I think it's because if I don't have somebody's respect it's either because I don't deserve their respects like the thing they're talking about I'm actually not an authority or an expert or good at and why should they respect me if I'm not or if I am good at that and an
56:00 - 56:30 expert and I should have the respect and they don't give it to me that's their stuff like their it's their inability to see that about me but approval means connection and love so I'd much rather have approval and connection and love because that's something that's a lot more difficult for me to to reach at get at like that's way more difficult for me to really authentically produce on my own and that's something that's very desirable for me is connection so I think with an intp if they're really struggling with this idea of put being
56:30 - 57:00 willing to put themselves in an area where they have to develop a discipline at a beginners level or at the student role I think that means that they probably have not allowed themselves to feel the full effect of where they're really good and rest into that and accept that about themselves and have radical honesty within themselves that they're actually pretty kick-ass on other stuff you know in other areas and so bring that confidence to the table when they're starting to develop a skill that they're not so good at and so they
57:00 - 57:30 know that this is not a sign of them being a bad person or them being unacceptable or them not being valuable that it's just this particular context is not where they shine yet I want to say one more thing on this relationship between accuracy and harmony I know that we're probably pretty far into this podcast and we probably have to wrap it up pretty soon but one thing that I've really noticed especially women who are NCP's I think men who are ATP's probably feel this as well but they're not as encouraged to go to their feeler process
57:30 - 58:00 of harmony or extroverted feeling as much as women are because the majority of women or 50% of women use extraverted feeling or harmony so E&C people has a strength as a strength as a driver copilot thank you and so I think NCP women get really encouraged to go to that space and what ends up happening I think a lot of times is that they don't they get an idea or they pattern recognize quickly what societal expectations are and then they
58:00 - 58:30 imprint it inside of themselves of how how they're supposed to show up in order to be acceptable and they're usually wrong my observation has been I think this was the source of I don't know if you the listener know this about me I don't know if I've really shared much of this in previous podcasts but I stuff I dealt with I say suffer from I think that's a very dramatic term but I dealt with body dysmorphic disorder for a really long time I think I've mentioned this in previous podcasts yeah you did yeah and body dysmorphic disorder is
58:30 - 59:00 basically this belief that you are too ugly to be loved which is a truly ridiculous statement like it's a ridiculous belief it's it has no basis in any sort of reason or analysis it doesn't past it definitely doesn't pass accuracy muster for sure and it was because when I was really young I imprinted society's concept of beauty and I just kind of accepted that like I thought oh I'm supposed to look like what you look like on magazines now I know that this is not just particular
59:00 - 59:30 tewi NCP's anybody at any point can develop body dysmorphic disorder for any sort of reason but this has carried out to my observation of others entp women that they'll get a concept of how they're supposed to be based on societal you know concepts I might have nothing to do with the way they look at it might have to do with how they show up and whether or not they're acceptable or unacceptable or whether or not they're masculine or feminine or whatever it is and I think that's one of the other
59:30 - 60:00 things that accuracy really does for an intp regardless of whether or not they're woman or man but if they've integrated some sort of unspoken social contracts young that they think is true like they've just accepted it as a truth what accuracy does is it it questions the self it goes why do you why is that true how much evidence do you have for that to be true now for me I felt like I had a ton of evidence around me that it
60:00 - 60:30 was true that you had to look like a magazine cover in order to be acceptable or loved until I started to look around me and go the overwhelming majority of human beings don't look like that and the overwhelming majority of human beings mate and have children and seem to be fine like you don't have to look like a magazine cover in order to be able to mate and have a relationship and have you know and be qualified to have sex and be qualified to be sexy and be
60:30 - 61:00 qualified to have somebody want to have sex with you or want to have a relationship with you and procreate with you so that's the other thing that accuracy does for anything and TP is if you have imprinted any sort of just completely ass-backwards societal expectation on yourself it allows you to take a sword to that and go really is that what we're gonna think is that how we're gonna roll or are you going to go ahead and reevaluate that an accuracy was my way out of body dysmorphic disorder I got to a point where my accuracy just thought it was
61:00 - 61:30 unacceptable to believe it anymore just like I thought it was unacceptable to believe my religious paradigm of the past anymore so there's a lot of ways in which accuracy can be an e NCP's salvation let's shift gears and talk about that final process in the car model it's the inferior function in your cognitive function stack in the car model we call this your three-year-old process the technical name is introverted sensing we've nicknamed it memory memory really shows up for you in
61:30 - 62:00 two ways as an entp the first way is in a bad way a negative way potentially it can flare up and cause problems for you we go into a lot more detail about how this looks in our personal development starter kit so I'm not gonna belabor that now because we're running out of time and really want to focus on that secondary copilot process in this podcast because that's the leverage point the other way it can show up for you as an entp is wanting to impact the status quo or wanting to impact the infrastructure around you it can show up as an aspirational element of your
62:00 - 62:30 personality something that you aspire to and again we talked more about that in other materials around INTP but just anchor both those things in your mind you can show up sometimes in a negative way when you're just not yourself and it only happens rarely and you're like wow what just happened there I don't feel myself at all or it can inspire you into an aspirational element of wanting to change things in the in the world the infrastructural world as an INTP yeah most the time when it shows up in a negative way you can handle that
62:30 - 63:00 just by go ahead and revisiting the past go ahead and revisiting memories in more of a nostalgic way music from when you're a teenager or movies that you really enjoy watching over and over again or just getting into a very familiar place the aspirational piece though is really interesting because I've noticed that for en teepees they generally do want to make an impact on the world it's very rare for naeun CP to not want to actually play a bigger game
63:00 - 63:30 that's very common and usually they want to be disruptive in some way they want to disrupt the status quo and that's very much a way that that memory three-year-old shows up as an aspiration so if you have a desire to be disruptive if you have desire to I don't know like blaze to the ground some sort of institution that you think is corrupt or wrong or bad just know that that's actually pretty common to en tepees and
63:30 - 64:00 one of the best ways to do that is to be as much in your genius as possible bringing the your best self forward really being able to focus and figure out the thing you want to be doing in life your passion even if it's just serially monogamous passion but figuring out what you want to be doing and bringing your best self forward and then in that way you will be disruptive in the best way possible so we have more information and resources on our website personality hacker.com where we can dive into entp all the other personality
64:00 - 64:30 types we don't talk about personality types in their own sake though the real heart and soul of what we do here at personality hacker is we are focused on personal growth or our own personal growth as leadership here in this company the people that work with us and you listening we want you to grow as a person and we believe that one of the best leverage points one of the lenses you can you can look through to architect and construct a personal growth journey that will just send you
64:30 - 65:00 into the stratosphere is by looking at your personality type first to realize that not all personal growth development journeys are gonna be the same not all are created equal what works for you as an entp may not work for somebody as an INTJ or an ENTJ or an INFP or whatever it's very unique to you and we we really firmly believe that so we invite you to come over to the website read the articles and resources that we're putting out on a consistent basis there and also tie in to the community tie in with other people of like minds just like yourself over at facebook.com
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