Exploring Cold Exposure and Methylene Blue
February 2025
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Summary
In this engaging conversation, the speakers discuss the varied benefits and effects of cold exposure and methylene blue on health and well-being. They explore how different durations and temperatures of cold exposure can influence stress levels and immune responses, and how methylene blue can play a role in energy metabolism by acting on various cytochromes within the mitochondria. They also touch upon personal experiences and anecdotal evidence related to these topics, providing an intriguing insight into lifestyle modifications for better health.
Highlights
- Discover the ideal amount of cold exposure to promote health without stressing your body. 💪
- Uncover how methylene blue interacts with mitochondrial cytochromes to aid energy production! ⚡️
- Learn tips on using methylene blue effectively, even during flights to stay energized! 🌍
- Explore personal stories of using cold exposure and methylene blue to improve wellness and vitality. 😊
- Understand the science behind deuterium and its impact on the body’s energy cycles! 🔬
Key Takeaways
- Cold exposure can boost your immune system and improve well-being, but be mindful of the duration and temperature! ❄️
- Methylene blue has unique properties that help in energy metabolism within the mitochondria, potentially enhancing performance! 🔋
- Pairing methylene blue with infrared light or keeping warm can enhance its effectiveness! 🌞
- Too much cold exposure or methylene blue can stress the body, balance is key! ⚖️
- Using methane blue during flights can be beneficial if done correctly, considering oxygen levels! ✈️
Overview
This video dives into the intriguing world of cold exposure and its health benefits. By discussing how often and how long to plunge into the cold, the speakers share insights on how to harness the cold for a better immune system and increased energy levels. They debate on how much is enough and what could be potentially overstressed, making it a must-learn topic if you’re keen on this chill therapy!
Methylene blue, a common topic in the biohacking world, gets its spotlight as well. The speakers break down its functions in cellular respiration and how it can be used effectively to improve mitochondrial function. Whether it’s during travel or to enhance sunlight absorption, methylene blue offers fascinating potential when used right alongside other biohacks, like infrared light.
Embark on a conversational journey that ties scientific concepts to practical life applications. From dealing with heavy metals in the body to ensuring enough oxygen flow during biohacking practices, this video is part guide, part chat, and definitely all about enhancing well-being through smart, scientifically-backed lifestyle choices.
Chapters
- 00:00 - 05:30: Introduction and Casual Conversation The chapter titled 'Introduction and Casual Conversation' seems to involve an introductory dialogue or discussion focusing on casual exchanges. However, there seems to be a typo or incomplete transcription noted as 'e'. More context or correction is needed for a comprehensive summary.
- 05:30 - 20:00: Travel and Vacation in Mexico In the chapter titled 'Travel and Vacation in Mexico,' the transcript delves into various aspects of experiencing Mexico. It begins by exploring the vibrant culture and rich history, emphasizing how both locals and travelers find Mexico a melting pot of traditions and modern wonders. It highlights specific destinations such as Cancun, Mexico City, and Cozumel, describing the unique attractions each location offers, from pristine beaches and ancient ruins to thriving urban life. Furthermore, the chapter discusses practical travel tips for visitors, including the best times to visit for pleasant weather, and insights into local customs and dining etiquette. The importance of understanding and respecting the local culture while enjoying the hospitality offered by Mexican people is underscored. Recommendations for navigating transportation within and between cities are also provided, ensuring a seamless and enriching travel experience. Lastly, the chapter touches on the economic and emotional benefits of leisure travel, advocating for a balanced itinerary that includes both relaxation and adventure to fully appreciate the country’s diverse landscapes and to gain personal growth through exploration.
- 20:00 - 35:30: Cold Baths and Training Stress This chapter discusses the effects of cold baths on training stress and recovery. It explores how cold exposure can aid in muscle recovery, reduce inflammation, and enhance performance by managing stress levels. The chapter likely includes insights from studies and expert opinions on incorporating cold baths into a training regimen.
- 35:30 - 61:00: Discussion on Methylene Blue The chapter titled 'Discussion on Methylene Blue' seems to be lacking content as the transcript is represented merely by the letter 'e'. It appears there might be missing information regarding the detailed content of this chapter. An actual summary cannot be provided without further information from the transcript.
- 61:00 - 74:00: Krebs Bicycle Pathway and Health Discussion In this chapter, the discussion revolves around the Krebs Bicycle Pathway, exploring its significance and implications for health. The conversation delves into how this metabolic pathway interacts with bodily functions and its role in energy production. Key insights are shared on maintaining health through understanding and potentially optimizing this essential process. The chapter aims to educate readers on the biochemical underpinnings of health related to the Krebs Cycle, offering perspectives on both scientific and practical levels.
February 2025 Transcription
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- 10:30 - 11:00 hello yeah
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- 11:30 - 12:00 here yes yes so are there any others coming or um I'm never really sure ever I just turn it on and then wait for an hour and see who logs on and we go from there fair enough it's a good tactic yeah how are you doing well doing very well I'm in Mexico right now so a lot more sunlight than than uh in
- 12:00 - 12:30 Wyoming yeah that's good man so I'll be in El Salvador shortly so say that one I was in um Mexico last year where are you at in Mexico uh P Carmen oh yeah that's good which M be or hotel uh it's called Sandos cacol
- 12:30 - 13:00 it's a nature it's a nature Hotel on which side of CLA is it on the so it's actually f is on the south of the ferry no nope it's to the north of the city so north of pad Del car it's literally right in front of uh Cosell ah okay yeah [ __ ] I wish I lived closer
- 13:00 - 13:30 yeah yeah but for you guys it's a two three hour flight or something yeah four hour flight for me yep oh nice man yeah for us it's uh like 13 hours or something yeah yeah no it's it's not too bad and then uh most of the hotels here are have the option to be all inclusive so don't have to worry about any of that as far as like extra food you know for food and all of that but you know even for us we don't really spend that much
- 13:30 - 14:00 time uh food t or I mean money on food but yeah I mean uh I brought my whole family down here and uh just hanging out there's like it's like I said it's a nature Hotel so everything's really spread out you're not on top of each other like in a normal Hotel everything is really really spread out and we're basically on the edge of the Jungle with some cenotes around us and stuff like that that's nice Which cot are you going to uh to watch are you going to Cotes uh there are cenotes in the hotel right
- 14:00 - 14:30 on the hotel grounds oh [ __ ] that's nice man okay you should send me that hotel for sure yeah yeah so basically like this morning I just got up went to the beach for a little bit and then went swam in the Cotes for an hour or so and and then now I'm here on the beach again so it's you just walk around the the thing it's it's about uh it's about three acres the property is about three acres yeah yeah
- 14:30 - 15:00 you kind have to walk everywhere to like get to the sites and to get to the hotels and in the different rooms like uh yeah you basic it's it's basically a 20- minute walk from one side of the place to the other side of the place but it makes it nice makes it so that everything spread out because they just like any hook system they have Wi-Fi everywhere right so it's nice to be able to just kind of leave where people are right you can kind of Go off into the jungle a little bit and immediately you don't get Wi-Fi signal or or cell phone
- 15:00 - 15:30 signal so it's it's actually kind of nice like that yeah yeah that's better man so you need to send me the hotel for sure because I want to go back yeah I want to go back to Mexico because the experience I I I had with the codus was magical because I I went to um the hos uhhuh the first one and I had little pains and eggs from the flight because we were 16 hours on the way um so my knees hurt a little bit was little bit
- 15:30 - 16:00 stiff Etc and um when when we go when we went to the uh cotti the Doos I went in and in about 10 minutes I felt a warm feeling at the Sol plexus here that went out and all the pains and aches went away it was so weird so yeah I want to go back there for sure yeah I mean so this anote is is again it's on the hotel ground so they have uh they have three of them they are
- 16:00 - 16:30 smaller one's kind of big um you know it's about oh I would say 50 meters wide right and and that that one's pretty big the other ones are smaller they're they're more like 10 15 meters wide but you can still go in them and and whatnot and and all of that so that the experience will be different just because obviously here there's no real there there's people monitoring this Cote but it's a hotel right so it's hard to know how how clean they are and stuff like that but they are fresh water and
- 16:30 - 17:00 they are very cold compared to the sea water here so it's still a really nice experience especially for in the morning [ __ ] yeah nice man yeah I I had a party of my uh my son today so I had a inside day so I have to do some cold now but if I turn my my normal um uh bath on the coldest uh temperature it can get it's [ __ ] freezing so I have to but I have to do it we're
- 17:00 - 17:30 going to do it today uh and that's my first question uh Long Cold baths like 30 minutes plus how much would you say for a healthy person would be uh how much would you do that a week in the winter per week per week yeah oh for a healthy person you technically could and and you have to qualify it by like the
- 17:30 - 18:00 temperature right if if if it's somewhere around uh 50 55 de what is that work out to be uh 12 that's 12 degrees Celsius yeah 12 degrees celsi mine is nine now nine eight nine sometimes colder so I will say this the the colder it is then the less you would want to do it like frequently right like if if you if you're talking N9 degrees Celsius I would say three
- 18:00 - 18:30 times a week would be the most yeah for a 30 plus I would yeah for exactly for 30 plus minutes right if if you're doing it for like three minutes 10 minutes something like that you could technically do that cold pretty much every day without much consequence um but if the 30 minute ones if they're cold they start to be they they they start to actually affect the immune system just like training right almost like it's a training effect so now now it's because
- 18:30 - 19:00 you're doing it for a training effect and now you have to actually uh watch the volume like how much are you accumulating throughout the week yeah so it if you do it that call for that long it's a stresser to the cells yeah yeah yeah yeah instead of being a hormetic stress now it's an actual training stress that's a training environment at that point okay cool cool so yeah I was doing it uh two times for for that long were like 10 minutes so I do it four or five times a
- 19:00 - 19:30 week two times long three three uh three or four times um shorter like 10 to 15 minutes yeah yeah the 10- minute Mark is is pretty good I I don't actually feel that that there is a need to go beyond 10 minutes when it's that cold um because all you're doing is it's it kind of starts to become maybe a stress maybe not because it'll change from month to month depending on your immune system right so that's why I
- 19:30 - 20:00 say once it starts to get much colder than 12 degrees you know 9 or so or or even colder than that then it becomes 10 minutes is kind of where I cap it out because you're probably not going to be able to accumulate you know throughout the week a whole bunch of 10 minute sessions that become negative at that point okay check okay good to know yeah the 15 minute Mark then I take about an hour to warm up well that's actually 10 minutes then
- 20:00 - 20:30 uh with 10 minutes I I'm warm in 20 minutes yeah so so you see how the even that five minute difference makes a big difference on the warm-up phase that's where you want that's that's actually how you know right so that's what I was gonna say you know when you when it when it becomes more of a training stress when it takes you more than about half an hour to warm back up ah okay okay what's the uh so the training stimulus you would say two times a week Max yeah yeah yeah for sure for sure I I wouldn't
- 20:30 - 21:00 it would be unnecessary unless for some reason it's your maybe you're a cold water sea dier or whatever right at that point if it's like your job now you need to actually train it Beyond but for just the average person there's there's really no need for more than three times a week uh of the longer phases right and then just like you noted hey 10 minutes I warm back up in like 20 25 minutes uh but 15 minutes takes me closer to the 45 to an hour to warm back up that's actually where your cut off is is so that's why I say 10 minutes for most
- 21:00 - 21:30 people going to be totally fine you're going to warm back up in 20 minutes or less maybe 30 minutes at the most if you're undertrained uh yeah and and it's not a big deal but the moment it starts taking you 45 minutes or longer to warm back up now you've induced a significant inroad into that uh particular training environment that now you need to be mindful of how much of those you accumulate okay check because I always say to people uh my tissue are cold so but so I am cold but I don't feel cold
- 21:30 - 22:00 yeah so but that's what I know exactly what you're saying right because I can sit outside in in like you know uh negative -10 degrees Celsius right for a couple hours right and I don't feel cold as long as the sun is shining but the moment I walk inside I can tell my blood is being shunted to like my internal organs and then it starts to come to the peripheries and I start to shiver when I come back inside and uh and and then it
- 22:00 - 22:30 takes me for me it usually takes me about 45 minutes to warm up what from what I've done there so I know that that's more of a training stress right there and so that's when I start to be mindful of okay tomorrow I'm going to cut it back maybe one hour of being outside right one hour of being outside at at like uh 20 degrees negative Celsius um is not a training stress for me I I can come back inside put normal clothes on I warm back up within 20
- 22:30 - 23:00 minutes right yeah the moment I go to like three to four hours if it's that cold outside and I and again I don't do it in water so I can be outside a lot longer yeah um but uh as soon as I'm like three to four hours that's kind of my cut off when it's that cold outside because then when I come back out inside it takes me like 90 minutes to warm back up even when I put clothing back on yeah okay check yeah that's that's I'll only do that twice a week yeah because uh
- 23:00 - 23:30 okay now my next question pops up about cold because to uh in the morning most mornings uh I do my morning walks outside with sunrise and then uh I have now it's about 1 degre Celsius uh to 5 degrees Celsius in the mornings depends on uh how much the sun shining here but um then I W but there's a lot of wind right so you cool off very
- 23:30 - 24:00 quickly um I would say um it's not that much of a stressor like a train training stimulus so uh I I warm up uh fairly uh quick but now I want to do my second cold bath so that's the second time I do cold would you recommend that don't think it's a big deal if the first one wasn't a big deal to from H okay cool right like like so for example
- 24:00 - 24:30 if you you know you go out for your cold walk Etc you come back in you warm back up to normal you know you basically feel normal after 20 minutes or so that was a and if you're going to go and do a cold bath like I'm assuming later in the afternoon or something like that is yeah yeah afternoon yeah so now now it's because uh I at the party of my son now it's uh night so I will be in in about uh hour so that's saying so you did that in
- 24:30 - 25:00 the morning there was no real stress response it was more of just a hormetic response you came right back to normal within 20 minutes and then in the evening you're GNA take a cold bath yeah my feet and arms are red but the rest is is okay yeah yep no that's perfect so that that's that's actually what I do on a day-to-day basis is in the morning I'll do my cardio for 20 25 minutes maybe 30 minutes and I warm back up within 20 minutes in the evening uh I I just don't have like my house
- 25:00 - 25:30 that I'm using to to that that my family is staying in we don't really have a very good bath right so I just go back outside uh and and do all my chores because I we have animals to feed and stuff like that I just do all my chores and stuff in in shorts and basically do another session similar to that so if you kept your bath later in the evening closer to that 10 minute Mark or less not a big deal H okay check yeah this is oh wait I need to grab my light to do it this is how I walk around yeah most of
- 25:30 - 26:00 the time in Holland so yeah yeah so so that's what I'm saying like I I don't think that that's a big deal to like have another cold uh session in the evening uh as long as the first one definitely wasn't a a training session so on days when you do the cold Long Cold bath that make sure that you know you probably did you probably do that one in the evening I'm assuming uh the gold bath now most of the time it's in the afternoon or
- 26:00 - 26:30 sometimes it's uh uh late mornings okay but but now so after after you've gone outside yeah I go outside and I go to eat I do my uh my protein and my fats and then um maybe some work and then I do the cold bath when I have time yeah yeah yeah that's that's exactly where I would place it for the for the longer sessions right but the the the shorter sessions any day where you're going to have two shorter sessions not a big deal just monitor to make sure that you're uh not taking too long to warm back up
- 26:30 - 27:00 okay yeah The Sweet Spot is right around 20 20 minutes 20 to 30 minutes if you're warming up within 20 to 30 minutes back to normal that's the perfect length whatever that might be for you and that's actually what I use right uh for most people once they've kind of got accustomed to getting cold regularly it's usually 10 minutes in a cold bath or less right most people three minutes is kind of like if they're new to any kind of cold exposure 3 minutes is kind
- 27:00 - 27:30 of where I cut them off because it takes them about about 20 minutes to warm back up from a from a three minute session for you you know three minutes in there you come back out it's like nothing happened yeah sure like you come back in and you almost get hot right away yeah for sure yeah I will be glowing hot yeah yeah yeah so that's what happens to me so again it that's why I use the warmup uh how long does it take you to warm back up as the guide of how much cold you should do okay clear cool yeah um
- 27:30 - 28:00 yeah I have a question about the methyl in Blue part I already uh ask you uh on Instagram but um you told me that methin blue donates to cytochrome one three and four right all of them all of them because it just freeze electrons yeah so so again one and two but does it take the uh does it take a um the electron from the nadh or does it just donate it
- 28:00 - 28:30 from itself from itself right so that's why I'm saying okay so cytochrome one is tuned to take electrons from nadh Cy two is tuned to take electrons from fadh cyome 3 only takes electrons from the transporter which is CoQ10 right it's CoQ10 is grabbing an electron from one or two and taking it to three and so on well the depending on where
- 28:30 - 29:00 the I I'll just call it a wire right so for ease of understanding wherever the wire is broken electrons can enter just like if you took a broken wire on on a cable and you hooked it up to power right wherever it's broken if you hook it up to power electrons are going to flow so methylene blue basically donates electrons to any cytochrome that will accept electrons so for example if if you have a broken and a so how your friend said that methylene blue uh backs
- 29:00 - 29:30 up nadh or something to that effect right the the yeah yeah it can stress out the N well what if I told you that that might be true but it's not that it's stressing it out maybe it's correlation in other words Hey whenever you induce methylene blue it's actually broken at cytochrome one and that's why you're seeing a backup of nadh because cytochrome one was already Bren because yeah but because that's what I thought when I when I uh went over it because uh if you had a good oh my clock excuse me
- 29:30 - 30:00 so every time you if you have a good uh TCA cycle then metal and blue shouldn't be a problem on any right nope no won't be but he and he also told me it uh it can be it can um compete with CoQ10 but then I was like Co Cen only shuttles the electron so wording is correct the wording is
- 30:00 - 30:30 correct right because CoQ10 may not have to do as much work right because the electrons are freely being donated to any cytochrome that will accept them so but that doesn't mean that it's degrading coqen see that there's a difference between what he's saying and what might actually happen right yeah but that that's the reason why he would why he would never take it uh on flight so I was like yeah and and I disagree yeah I would disagree with that and and again it's not even okay it
- 30:30 - 31:00 again the the tools that are available in for science right now everything that we're talking just to be clear it's all speculation right that he he doesn't actually know for a fact that it competes in the way that he thinks and I'm not actually sure that it competes in any way shape or form other than it reduces his activity right because science isn't look science isn't looking at it and going oh there's less CoQ10 in the mitochrondria all it's may be doing is hey these enzimatic actions are being down ulated it may not mean that they're not being used it could
- 31:00 - 31:30 just mean they're not needed quite as much yeah you see what I'm saying yeah sure and that's usually how a lot of these things are are being monitored if you want to call it that right they're never actually able to see them directly they're monitoring the enzymatic actions belonging to that particular cytochrome or that you know CoQ10 or whatever and so then it you you have to ask the question is it because it's inhibiting it or down regulating it or is it because it's just not needed when you're
- 31:30 - 32:00 introduced something like that right that's the difference right you got to think about it in a decentralized way right there is more than one answer always there's more than one answer right and so certain scenarios where it's like okay well we know that you're hypoxic in an airplane and we know that when you take methylene blue uh it ulates mitochondrial activity irrelevant of what the entic actions happen we know that it upregulates entic AC or I mean uh Cal activity but if you are hypoxic
- 32:00 - 32:30 you need the oxygen to as a terminal electron acceptor right correct but remember uh you can flow more electrons because electrons are being donated right so and and and there's a second there's a second property right there's a second property of of of methylene blue it's also a chromophor meaning it's a dopant so it so it brings infrared light that uh that you can
- 32:30 - 33:00 create so for example a hack that you can accelerate the the how the effectiveness of methylene blue is wearing uh a coat or something like that like something that that allows you to keep heat internally so I have a jacket you know those jackets that are lined with like aluminum that reflect heat back inside of you that's what I wear during a flight so I'll turn on the AC put it on my head and then I'll wear my jacket so I'm actually sweating like I'm in a SAA you see what I'm saying so now I'm
- 33:00 - 33:30 accelerating how much infrared light my body is producing internally plus I have methylene blue inside so now my cytochrome 4 has been upregulated to make don't you need don't you need more oxygen when you do methylene blue them yeah yeah yeah you would you you you that and that's why I'm it becomes one of these things where the dose is in the PO like if for example if you have somebody with COPD or somebody that has a problem with breathing a big dose methylene blue is counterproductive a little bit goes a
- 33:30 - 34:00 very long way if you're somebody who's who's you know maybe you know Lance Armstrong for example right with a V2 Max of 70 or whatever he could take an enormous amount of of uh methylene blue and it would only add benefits right kind of like red light exposure red light exposure has a bell curve of how effective it can be it's dependent that in fact I compare it directly to uh imper red exposure right like if you uh get negatives from too much infrared exposure you're going to get negatives
- 34:00 - 34:30 from from too much methylene blue because it's upregulating some of those same Pathways yeah but what's too much can you take yeah oh you can always take too much me and blue of Orly of course but so so yeah look I have this one I square is it 1% is it 1% yeah yeah most 1% methylene Blues you're never going to be able to take too like you'd have to take half that bottle yeah like I do two squirts of this yeah
- 34:30 - 35:00 sometimes one times a day sometimes uh two times a day but some and most days when when I say too much uh because there's literature on this yeah because the Navy the the US military Navy uh actually employed this with their personnel in the 60s and 70s and so the the the dose where it starts to become possibly too much is right around two milligrams per kilogram uhhuh right so if so one milliliter one
- 35:00 - 35:30 full dropper of what you got right there is only 10 milligrams right you're you're probably what 90 kilos or 100 kilos yeah 91 at the moment yeah so so you would have to take 180 milligrams before you start getting into oh it's way too much now that's that's because you're just a healthy individual right so what I do is I cut it in half for normal people because I don't know who who's fit and who's not and who has problems and who doesn't so the safe
- 35:30 - 36:00 zone is stay under 1 milligram per kilogram so obviously start with the least amount that that's effective for you and then you can potentially work up to something around one milligram per kilogram which for you would be 90 milligrams that whole bottle I mean you would have to take what nine dropper FS nine dropper FS uh to to equal nine milligrams right that's a lot of methylene blue that's a lot yeah for sure yeah now my product I have a product that that I make that's 40 milligrams per
- 36:00 - 36:30 milliliter so so it's four times as potent as that one that's where you got to be careful right so I I'll only take I weigh roughly 95 kilos so I'll only take one full dropper the most which puts me at 40 milligrams and and that's plenty of effect for me could I bump it up to you know could I double that yeah I probably could and I'd probably be totally fine but that's when I I just you know that's that's where I cut it off okay so uh cool check yeah I I I use it now because
- 36:30 - 37:00 I'm in that magnetic field a lot so I thought maybe my mitoch can use a little bit more he yeah but to most of the time I don't use it that much yeah I I only use mine in the winter or at the beginning of like for example right now I'm in Mexico so I I want to get as much sunlight absorption as possible so I will use it to augment how much light I'm collecting for short periods of time so like while I'm here in Mexico I'm using 1 milliliter or 40
- 37:00 - 37:30 milligrams every day while I'm here for these seven days that I'm here because I want to collect as much sunlight as possible while I'm here so unique scenarios I'll use it at a pretty big dose for short periods of time and then I won't use it at all uh you know during the winter for for the most part winter is kind of when I use it the most on and off or when I do something like this ah okay can you can you just can you see me now uh uh no your camera shut off oh
- 37:30 - 38:00 [ __ ] I thought so now it should be on right uh yeah yeah good okay check um that's clear so I know for the questions I think uh oh yeah one last one can you uh can you show me uh where I can why should look for the pathway that um because you
- 38:00 - 38:30 told me the uh Ura cre creatinine um ratio that's very important so you can um do some um CO2 um CO2 therapy maybe some box breing maybe some uh can you can I want to uh read into that uh pathway a little bit more where so it it would be yeah if you type in Krebs bicycle oh crab cycle no no not crab
- 38:30 - 39:00 cycle crab bicycle oh bicycle okay yes because there there's that is okay so you have the the crab cycle which is always described by the circular uh graphic right and then there's the Ura cycle which is also a circular graphic they meet they meet they actually touch each other they actually intertwine uh with feries and that is what's called KB's bicycle there there are some pictures
- 39:00 - 39:30 out there to describe it as a you know one one wheel is the crep cycle the TCA cycle and the other wheel is the t uh the Ura cycle and then there is a chain that that links together and that's where fase uh uh interlinks them that is what you want to study is how fase interacts with both of those and how ferase uh we've seen uh that fumas is is is uh the regulator of when your mitochondria is having a
- 39:30 - 40:00 little bit too much detarium in it it starts to inhibit humas which slows down the Ura cycle and starts to back up Ura in the blood so that's why I can say can you say that one more time so yeah so so if if uh ferase uh the if you look at the TCA cycle fummer I have I have a picture for me now you have shate and then it goes to fumerate and then you have the F if if you notice fumas adds water right it'll it'll have H2O in the reaction it
- 40:00 - 40:30 adds water to the TCA cycle that water is supposed to be derium depleted from the metabolic cycle of of the the the electron transport chain if it starts to become uh uh dyum heavy so or sorry uh yeah it starts to have duum in it what ends up happening is fumas slows down and no longer contributes as much water to the TCA cycle and it starts to back up the Ura cycle so in the blood you will see Ura the value of Ura or in the
- 40:30 - 41:00 urine urine is going to be more effective at telling this you will see UA right so that's why I say if you're seeing Ura numbers going up you want to start dyum depletion at all cost that's where duum deed water becomes a Super Supplement because that step is not okay but uh could it be that some uh for examples we know that some heavy metals inhibit steps of the TCA cycle could it be for example that if someone has a
- 41:00 - 41:30 heav heavy metal toxicity that uh that that step yeah but by default if you have heavy metal toxicity you're GNA have heavy a lot of dyum true because dyum is that heavy metal side of hydrogen hydrogen remember yeah it it can act as a chameleon so dyum acts like a metal it becomes more rigid it becomes more it has more mass more attraction all the different words that you can use in physics to describe something uh metal can be used to
- 41:30 - 42:00 describe dyum in in that heavy form so when if you're telling me that you have a little bit of heavy metal pro poison uh any kind of metal by default I know that you have more duum that you should have and so adding in Dum depleted water along with actually figuring out what kind of metal you got to deplete uh would be beneficial but remember melanin also is a heavy metal keator and it also helps with theerum depletion so if you can't have a lot of sunlight to to
- 42:00 - 42:30 accumulate uh melanin then you're going to want to supplement derium depleted water does that make sense yeah that makes a lot of sense right and so so that's that's why I I out of all the values you know that you showed me when we had our little consultation Ura definitely tells me should we lean into detarium depleted water or or if possible a lot more suntime that's the value that tells me that and then the
- 42:30 - 43:00 creatinine is a byproduct of uh ATP recycling right so if ATP is being slowed down right remember the electron transport chain requires oxygen like you stated then we know that we have an oxygen problem if if creatinine is being lowed you know if it's low if it's in the middle range or you know kind of optimal if you want to call it that whatever that whatever justif you know I don't normally use your test which is urine I always use the blood test which is in the blood so if I see that
- 43:00 - 43:30 creatinine is uh uh 0.8 or 0.9 or lower then I know oh hey we need to lean into a little bit more of uh oxygen delivery especially when you see C2 in the blood low as well right if you see CO2 in the blood and creatinine that's also low we def I can guarantee you it's an oxygen problem ah interesting very very interesting okay okay cool I'm going to look into that one more of for sure okay
- 43:30 - 44:00 because it helps a lot so um yeah man thank you thank you for your time awesome thank you thanks for logging on have a good night so would you yeah have a good night man and make sure oh it's not night at yours of course I I'll uh what time is it over there it's noon ah noon okay so now have a great day make sure you make something of that vacation man yeah thank you see you man later later