Karmine Corp Qualify for Worlds, EU Open 4 Recap, Is NRG Too Defensive? | Chalked Cast #111 w/ Ferra

Summary

In this episode of Chalked Cast #111, the team dives into various topics, with guest Ferra, a dominant coach in the Rocket League scene. They discuss the recent qualification of Karmine Corp for the Worlds, conduct a deep dive into the EU Open 4, and analyze NRG's playstyle, debating whether they are too defensive. The conversation ranges from Ferra's coaching insights to the nuances of team dynamics and individual player performance, making for an engaging and informative discussion.

Highlights

• Ferra discusses his background and experience transitioning from player to coach. 🏆
• A detailed recap of Karmine Corp's performance and their qualification for Worlds. 🚀
• NRG's playstyle is scrutinized, with debates on their perceived defensive tactics. 🔍
• The importance of team synergy and mental strength in esports is emphasized. 🧠
• Insightful discussions on the recent roster changes and their implications for the scene. 🌟

Key Takeaways

• Ferra shares his journey from a player to a successful coach and talks about his coaching philosophy. 🎮
• Karmine Corp's journey to Worlds is celebrated, with insights into their gameplay and strategies. 🌍
• The episode delves into the perception of NRG being a defensive team and the impact of such narratives. 🛡️
• Discussions highlight the intricacies of team dynamics and the importance of mental fortitude in competitive gaming. 🤔
• The Cast explores the impact of recent transfers and team changes in the Rocket League esports scene. 🔄

Overview

This episode of Chalked Cast is a rollercoaster of insights and anecdotes brought by the charismatic Ferra, a notable French Rocket League coach. Ferra discusses his transition from player to coach, highlighting the challenges and learning experiences that defined his journey. His insights into coaching philosophy and team management provide valuable lessons for anyone interested in esports.

The team celebrates Karmine Corp’s qualification for the Worlds, delving into the strategies and performances that helped them succeed. Ferra provides a behind-the-scenes look into the team's mindset and preparation, offering fans a glimpse into the world of competitive Rocket League.

Amidst the excitement, a significant portion of the discussion focuses on NRG and the narratives surrounding their playstyle. The episode debates the perception of NRG as a defensive team, the accuracy of such narratives, and their impact on the team's performance and public image.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Chalked Cast Introduction and Guest Introduction The chapter introduces the podcast 'Chcast 111' featuring a special guest, a prominent coach named Farah. The hosts express excitement and welcome listeners back to the show, promising an EU recap and general discussion.
• 00:30 - 05:00: Farah's Experience with English and Interviews Farah expresses appreciation for the opportunity to practice English during her visits, as she lacks practice opportunities in her daily life. Despite perceiving her English skills as deteriorating, particularly her accent, her conversation partner reassures her that her English is impressive, especially given her limited practice in the past five months. Farah mentions that she handles interviews for KC but feels that her accent is worsening from lack of use. Her accent, however, is considered good, and it's noted that many French people can relate to her challenges.
• 05:00 - 10:00: RLCS Interview Experience with Farah The chapter titled 'RLCS Interview Experience with Farah' discusses the experiences of Farah, who is accustomed to doing interviews in RLCS. The narrator appreciates French accents, emphasizing their positive reception both in America and the UK, and compliments Farah's proficiency in English. There's a recount of an incident where the narrator accidentally interrupted Farah during a recent RLCS interview, for which they had to publicly apologize. The chapter captures the dynamics of conducting interviews and the social niceties involved in the competitive esports scene.
• 10:00 - 13:00: Farah's Journey and Achievements In this chapter, Farah recounts a confusing and somewhat humorous experience during a virtual meeting or call. It highlights moments of miscommunication and overlapping dialogue with another participant. Despite the confusion, it adds a layer of realism to virtual interactions, showcasing Farah's journey through improved communication skills and the ability to manage such situations effectively. Farah's achievements are subtly underlined by her ability to navigate and reflect on this amusingly chaotic scenario.
• 13:00 - 19:00: Birmingham Major Recap The chapter titled 'Birmingham Major Recap' focuses on the challenges and confusing moments faced during a live performance or interview setup. It describes a scenario where there was a communication breakdown, possibly during a broadcast or interview. The speaker highlights the confusion and difficulty of piecing things together when anticipating responses in a dialogue, only to find out the other person isn't actively participating, thus creating a perplexing situation for the speaker who ends up having to handle it solo.
• 19:00 - 22:00: Preparation and Scrims for Birmingham This chapter discusses the challenges faced while preparing for and participating in scrimmages leading up to a Rocket League Championship Series (RLCS) event in Birmingham. An incident is recounted where a caster's microphone was accidentally left on during a live broadcast, leading to difficulties in communication during an interview segment. The casters, CJ and the narrator, had just finished casting, and the intended desk interview with Farah was disrupted due to the open mic configuration, causing some humorous confusion.
• 22:00 - 25:00: European Rocket League Scene Analysis In this chapter, the narrator shares a humorous and somewhat chaotic experience involving a Discord call during a Rocket League tournament. Farah, one of the players or analysts, ends up hearing a conversation that was not intended for public ears. The narrator and CJ, who are colleagues, are on a Discord call and CJ had muted his mic, leading to Farah only hearing the narrator's side of the conversation. This situation creates confusion and inadvertently turns into a pseudo co-cast of Farah's interview, with remarks being made as if commenting live on Farah's points. The narrative illustrates the unpredictable and sometimes comical nature of live interactions in the Rocket League esports community.
• 25:00 - 30:00: Vitality's Consistency and Farah's Thoughts The chapter begins with an expression of confusion and realization from the speaker. They describe an experience where, after facing three questions in succession, they stop speaking mid-sentence due to a state of confusion. Eventually, they manage to recover and continue speaking, although everything feels peculiar. A second person recalls watching the event again, interjecting with an apology for interruption and a mention of being able to hear the speakers Johnny and another individual, adding to the confusion described. Overall, the chapter highlights a moment of mental disarray and fragmented communication.
• 30:00 - 34:00: Comparing LAN Performance and Comfort The narrator experiences confusion during a livestream, unsure if they are broadcasting their audio in the right Discord channel while talking to someone named CJ. They initially suspect a technical error, leading them to mute their microphone and ask a colleague named Blast to clarify the situation. It turns out that their audio was indeed being transmitted. The chapter captures the unexpected surprises and minor technical glitches often encountered in digital communication platforms.
• 34:00 - 41:00: Rocket League Tournament Formats Discussion The chapter discusses a moment of confusion during a Rocket League tournament where there was a crossed wire and someone could hear them unexpectedly. There was a brief panic when they realized this, but no harm was done. The conversation reflects on the importance of communication and technical issues during such events, acknowledging the potential of talking behind someone's back but clarifying they weren't doing so. It light-heartedly conveys the behind-the-scenes dynamics of organizing and streaming tournaments.
• 41:00 - 44:00: The Role of Luck in Winning The chapter discusses the significance of luck in achieving success, particularly during an interview. The narrator shares a personal experience where they misunderstood a situation, thinking they were actively being asked questions during an interview when it was actually just a commentary. This highlights the unforeseen elements, such as luck, that can influence performance in critical situations.
• 44:20 - 48:00: Team Dynamics and Coaching Perspectives This chapter delves into the nuances of team communication and the challenges that arise when there's a lack of clarity during interactions. The speaker reflects on a past interview experience where technical difficulties led to miscommunication with the desk team, highlighting the importance of ensuring all parties can hear and understand each other. This situation is used to illustrate broader themes about team dynamics and the necessity of clear communication channels in coaching and teamwork. Additionally, there is a brief mention of a person referred to as 'Vat', whose language proficiency in English is noted to be superior to that in French, though the context of this comparison within coaching and team interactions remains to be fully explored.
• 48:00 - 53:00: Expense of Success and Challenges This chapter discusses the unexpected distractions and challenges faced during a particular event. It highlights the situation involving Farah, who, despite the potential distractions from his players, managed to maintain composure. The chapter describes how, even though there were signs like silly dances behind the monitor, it was not obvious to everyone, and Farah managed to hide any visible discomfort or panic. The narrative suggests that the situation may appear less awkward or noteworthy on a replay, indicating that the incident was not perceived as a major issue at the time.
• 53:00 - 55:00: Importance of Coaching and Teamwork The chapter focuses on the significance of coaching and teamwork. It highlights a conversation about listening and communication in the team. The captain possibly missed some critical information due to being distracted by other events in the sports world. One of the team members, Aira, was meant to conduct an interview, which did not happen. There is an anecdote about a past interaction with Aira and Seiko, hinting at communication barriers due to language differences. Overall, it underscores the need for clear communication and understanding within a team to ensure success.
• 55:00 - 57:00: Receiving Feedback and Continuous Improvement The chapter titled 'Receiving Feedback and Continuous Improvement' discusses the challenges and emotions involved in communication when there are language barriers. It illustrates a scenario where individuals, possibly team members, struggle with language and miscommunications, which leads to feelings of frustration and misunderstanding. The text references specific individuals, like Vatira and Seiko, who are noted for their attempts to communicate in English despite difficulties. The narrative reflects on the progress made over time as Vatira’s English has improved markedly, highlighting the theme of continuous improvement through feedback and interaction.
• 57:00 - 62:00: Overcoming Adversity and Finding Balance In this chapter titled "Overcoming Adversity and Finding Balance," the speaker reflects on their interactions with someone named Seiko. They recount how they initially had a friendly rivalry, often jokingly reminding each other of their head-to-head score whenever they crossed paths. Despite past challenges, they note improvements in English and how things have changed over time, mentioning that Seiko gives interviews comfortably now. The tone is light-hearted, focusing on personal growth, resilience, and the balance in competing while maintaining camaraderie.
• 62:00 - 64:00: Question and Answers with Farah In this chapter, the discussion revolves around a recent interaction with Farah, where they reminisce about a previous conversation from December. Farah has recently achieved another regional victory, and the host notes the good performance in the first split since their last interaction.
• 64:00 - 65:00: Conclusion and Farewell In this concluding chapter, the protagonist reflects on a significant event, the Birmingham Major. They provide a recap of their thoughts and experiences, describing the competition as relatively easy, suggesting a sense of confidence and superiority in their performance. The chapter wraps up the narrative by showcasing the protagonist's achievements and possibly hinting at their continued success beyond the current storyline.

Karmine Corp Qualify for Worlds, EU Open 4 Recap, Is NRG Too Defensive? | Chalked Cast #111 w/ Ferra Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 Yo yo yo. What is up everybody and welcome back to Chcast 111 with special guest. Well, the most dominant coach we've ever seen, Farah. We are back EU recap and yeah, just chatting. We're consistent consistent cast pogs in chat. But welcome.
• 00:30 - 01:00 Uh glad to be here again. Uh actually like like actually like I like coming here. It's it's great. Makes me practice my English because I do not have many opportunities nowadays. So I like it. Perfect. I mean your English is great. Five months. Your English is great. That's why he does all the interviews for for KC. It's getting worse and worse. Like my accent is worse and worse. It wasn't good before, but it's, you know, I don't talk that much anymore. I listen, but I don't talk that much anymore. But the the accent is good. I think, you know, a lot of French people need to know this that the having
• 01:00 - 01:30 a French accent is not a bad thing. People love, Americans love French accents. In the UK, we we love a French accent. Um, but yeah, your your English is great. That's why he does all the interviews in RLCS. In fact, the most recent RLCS interview he did. I rudely interrupted. I had to publicly apologize to Farah because he had to listen to to me talking over him as he was trying to give his interview answers. Uh, yeah. How was that for for you uh to be given an RLCS interview post winning an
• 01:30 - 02:00 event and just hear me waffling in your ear? Okay, the thing is I was so confused because okay, so you know they make me join that call and then I'm thinking like I think I'm talking to only three people but I hear you and it looks like you're in the conversation you know like it's like you're talking about the thing but at some point I'm I'm you know talking a lot and you're like talking at the same time as me and I'm like dude usually he's not doing this right like is he trying to cut me off so I just
• 02:00 - 02:30 stop talking right in the middle of my setups and I was trying to say something, you know, and then you stop talking and then everyone stops talking. I'm like, wait, like surely like and then I'm trying to, you know, piece up together all of the things like wait, maybe he's not actually in the interview thing and I'm looking at the screen. I'm like, okay, actually he's not there. I'm just I'm just, you know, hearing him playing stuff and actually casting myself and you know how confusing it is. It looks
• 02:30 - 03:00 like, you know, I'm I'm answering an interview and someone is commenting on my secret at the same time and I'm like, "Okay, I have to say something because I I just cannot hear. I just cannot focus anymore." Oh, it doesn't seem That's so funny because what what happened is they accidentally on the last RLCS show, CJ and I just got done casting and they muted our mics to the stream as as you do and then they brought Farah in for the interview and it's supposed to just be the desk you hear and talk to, but for some reason my mic was still plugged
• 03:00 - 03:30 into that audio feed to Farah. So, he's hearing me, but I was actually like in a different Discord call by this point just chatting to CJ who' manually muted his mic. So Farah heard my half of my conversation with CJ. If I if I was unmuted, he would have just heard like like a full co-cast of Farah's interview like, "Oh, look at this. It's brilliant." At at some point, I'm saying something and then someone says, "Oh, great point he's making right now." And I'm like, "What the is heing me while asking my question?"
• 03:30 - 04:00 I'm like, "Wait, I'm so confused." And then I realized what was happening. like like after three questions and I think you can see at some point I just stopped talking in the middle of a sentence and everything is just confusing and then I I pick it up again but it's like weird. No, you watch it again. You were like leaf leaf. Sorry to cut you off. Um I can hear I can hear Johnny I can hear you talking. Uh and then I I just I'm
• 04:00 - 04:30 watching the stream like what? I didn't say anything at that point. I was just like silently in my head. I'm like like what? Then I like go to my I don't know go to Discord. Am I in no am I in the wrong Discord channel? No, I'm talking to CJ. Wait, is my feed going to him? So I mute that. I'm like I don't know what's going on. I I ask like you know blast what's happening. They're like oh yeah fair I can hear you. Did Did you have that like that heard that like some like sometimes we have like when you do like something surprising happens you're like oh [ __ ] what's going
• 04:30 - 05:00 on? No for a second I thought did I mess up? I was like is that my fault? But I I it was just a crossed wire was, you know, going to the wrong place. So I I panicked briefly. As soon as you said that, I was just like, he's not supposed to be able to hear me. So I just shut up. I'm like, "Oh, no." But I I only knew that cuz I was watching the stream. So it's lucky I was watching the stream otherwise. Yeah, I know you missing my interview at the same time. Well, we could have been talking about anything. So yeah, now you know behind your back. We're not We're not talking [ __ ] about you, you know? We were just But the thing is like I would have if you if
• 05:00 - 05:30 you're talking about anything I would have like realized you're not in the call so I would have picked it up earlier but since you are talking about the interview I was like he's actually ask like he's actually in the interview so I'm I have to answer to him and I realized halfway through it I'm like no like it's just he's a ghost like he's not supposed to you're doing an interview in only me can it's like it's already hard enough you're doing an interview in English and now you've got Johnny commentating iding in English over the later ask you questions.
• 05:30 - 06:00 The point is he's making that. Yeah, thank you very but the thing is the desk couldn't hear me. So it's just you literally only you hear me and they had no idea. The desk had no idea that I was like making it impossible for you. So we imagine imagine I sent Vat for this interview. That would have been the the weirdest thing. I think that would have like I think D would have picked it up and it's like better. Yeah, I mean obviously I think he's better in English than he is in French because he's I don't know why people don't call him
• 06:00 - 06:30 from any bro. He's he's he's from N at this point like he's he's a Canadian so and he speaks so good English but yeah I think at and Van would have I don't know like they would have panicked. Yeah that's what happened but we just thought Farah was maybe getting distracted by one of his players. Maybe like one of them doing a silly dance behind the monitor. It didn't look I I think if you would go back and watch it you won't be cringing. Farah, it wasn't bad. It we we didn't I had no idea nothing was up. Okay. If it's not bad, maybe I'm good at hiding stuff because I didn't notice and and I was Well, I mean, we didn't notice
• 06:30 - 07:00 until you said you said listening. So, I look I didn't think it was too bad. I don't think the captain caught it cuz he he was watching CRL instead of um he was he's watching some college. I I I did not catch it. Well, no, I ended up watching the final because something happened with that. It got cancelled, but I did not see the interview. Um, but yeah, if Aira would have done the the interview, I've had one conversation with Aira in English before him and Seiko came up to me at the LA Major, I did not understand a single word. It was
• 07:00 - 07:30 so bad. It was I felt so bad. They kept laughing and they were they would try to say something. They would look at each other like, "Huh?" Like, "Did we say it wrong?" or something. And it was so I felt so terrible that I couldn't understand. No. Nowadays, you definitely could speak to him like he's doing really really good. Yeah. Wait, LA Major. Vetira's English was I thought Vatira's English was pretty good cuz he was playing with team Queso. They spoke English on the day. It was I think it was worse though because him and Seiko were bouncing off each other and they and like I don't know they were trying to figure out how to say it to me but
• 07:30 - 08:00 they were laughing so I don't think they took it personal but I feel English is good as well. They both I think he he was 15 at that point so that makes no but I think a long time ago I think it's pretty good. You can you can see it on interviews like nowadays he's doing some of them a lot. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like with Seiko, the only thing we say to each other is our current like series head-to-head score. Like, cuz the first time I played him, I beat him. So, I just kept walking past him being like 10 1. And then he beat me and he was like 1 one and then beat me again 21 2-1. And now still when I walk past him, he's
• 08:00 - 08:30 like 2-1, 2-1. That's all we say. So, he took a breath. I think it was funny. Yeah, they're uh they're fine. But though, Farah, well done. Another uh another regional victory. Before that though, can we can we just backtrack a little bit because it feels like we had you on recently, but as you said uh off air, it was in December. It was I think five or 6 months ago, so it has been a little bit uh since we had you on. And since then, you had a pretty good first split. Uh
• 08:30 - 09:00 you then went to the Birmingham Major and decided to just take the absolute piss and win that with ease. So, give us a little recap of Birmingham. What were your thoughts on on that major? Um, I I don't know. Easy, I guess. Um, no, but like I I think I think we were ahead. Maybe we still are, but yeah, it just
• 09:00 - 09:30 took I think it's the easiest land I've ever won. Uh, maybe walls. Actually, I I actually beat my own record of like, you know, like win percentage really in terms of like game game loss. Uh it was like slightly better than dled off with it was one game loss better than Yeah. Worlds. Yeah. Um so 21 and five. I don't know. We we started we started weirdly I think because it was the it's not the first land we do together because we had the KCX Pro match and the flip and spin
• 09:30 - 10:00 line, but obviously a major is different. And I don't know, I I think we expected stuff to be different uh when we played against Wild Card. Um I don't know, we expected the mood to just pick it up by itself and it just didn't and we did not have a lot of energy or I don't know, it didn't feel like we playing a major a major game for some reason. Um but we fixed that up very quickly and all of the other series went really good. Um, I think the funny thing is like I I
• 10:00 - 10:30 think the the energy series specifically looked a lot like the world's one, the world semi-final except that we win that game to overtime and that makes pretty much the whole difference. Like cuz last year semifinals at WS we we lose the game two like the game two is exactly the same. There is no goal and then we go into overtime. They're leading the series 1 nil and they win it. And so obviously two 20 two in a best of seven. You're like in deep waters already. Uh
• 10:30 - 11:00 but Birmingham is different. We win the overtime. Uh and it's 1-1 and like it's already so much more comfortable. And yeah uh from then on it was uh smooth sailing. Uh we pretty much uh from that point I think we only lost one game after that. Um yeah and I think the results helped us. Um I guess uh we didn't expect to face ultimates in the finals. We didn't expect to face Furya in the semis. Um but I don't think we would have lost
• 11:00 - 11:30 uh on that final day anyway. So yeah, uh I'm I'm happy like after last year uh where we I don't know, we we did great online for a bit after uh before uh crashing out. But yeah, we did we we had some good results online. We just could not get it across uh across the line online. Um, this year it feels good to have a a major title already. Like um I think it's a great boost of confidence going into the rest of the year which is
• 11:30 - 12:00 going to be packed with three pretty much very important plan for for the team. So uh yeah, so far so good. In in preparation for Birmingham, which teams did you you know scrim against, sprites against? like which teams did you see being the main competition to to winning Falcons and Energy? I think uh it's always hard to say from screams because we like it's not like we have
• 12:00 - 12:30 like 10 screams against uh against those teams like we scream a lot the EU teams obviously but like uh the NA teams the Mina teams they they come here and boot camp come for like I don't know less than a week. So you maybe scream then once or twice, maybe three times if you're lucky. Uh so I don't think it's like enough data to just, you know, like uh judge. And uh it was weird because like from my eye test, energy did not look really good online even though they won two regionals. Like I wasn't
• 12:30 - 13:00 really worried uh about them like they they looked worse than they were the the season before. Uh, and Falcons had just lost against Twisted Man, I think in the in the in the finals, which was a bit surprising, but I I didn't know if it was because Twisted Mines was better than I expected or it's well or Falcons was worse than expected. So, by, you know, by being cautious, I was like, okay, I think Falcons and Energy are still, you know, going to be really, really good online. Uh, and the other
• 13:00 - 13:30 teams, we weren't really worried. uh especially the the European teams like we were really really confident obviously because we are winning in Europe so but also because I don't know like Europe this season does feel a bit less stuck than uh than previously so yeah you you were saying this before the show to us and do you and not just yeah I mean first off I feel like there is less depth uh this season in Europe um uh I'm not talking about the top right I'm talking about like the top 16 teams the top eight teams um because all of
• 13:30 - 14:00 the players who cannot get a contract and you can only get a contract pretty much in this game if you're like top four and if you make major consistently or if you actually fight for majors um all of those players they just try and go somewhere else uh and you see you know a lot of players going to OC Apac Mina pretty much everywhere else uh because it's easier Europe has always been the the the toughest region to to qualify so they're trying elsewhere and we lose those you know those middle
• 14:00 - 14:30 middle of the middle of the pack players who could upset a lot uh the the top teams which makes it more likely now that you're going to see the same. Yes, he lost. I mean Thor is in Apac now so uh and he's not the only one. Um but uh but yeah, like I think you're going to see, you know, a very a more consistent top six this season and you I mean it's already the case, but and
• 14:30 - 15:00 outside of that, yeah, I think the top teams have uh I mean you we've seen it at the major like Europe is not the greatest uh compared to you know where we were three two years ago where you know we dominated off and stuff like the major we obviously we were there but outside of ush uh Uh, I don't know. Like I'm I'm more worried about like I'm more I'm more thinking like if we did not win it would be an NA team or a Mina team that would
• 15:00 - 15:30 win. Do you think that uh EU um well it was Dignitas and GK and Vitality at the major alongside you guys? Are those the teams you expected or did you have NIP, Gentlemate, somebody else making it? Uh I mean I think people know know it by now because people kept call kept say I think you guys were saying it on the broadcast but yeah I expected the I was the only one expecting Dinos to get the major for some reason. Yeah. Yeah you did. Um but ZK know I did not expect but
• 15:30 - 16:00 I think it was deserved and actually like the the fact that they make they made it because they won you know. It's like Mhm. LA last season I didn't really like the points the points system because of how I would say it didn't re reward winning but it did not reward winning as much as it should in my opinion and this season it does feel like winning a regional almost guarantees you a major spot as it should you know because like you're winning and we want to see winners
• 16:00 - 16:30 like to be to be I don't I didn't want to see NIP at the line because all all of their results were like top four top for top six like no interesting games and all all they did was losing to all of the other teams the whole split. So why should they be at the measure when another team has won an event, you know? I'm like this this story line was great to to to see and I'm and I'm liking the point the point system this season like uh I think it's it's great. So you're someone that prefers prefers a peak like
• 16:30 - 17:00 you know a Shopify rebellion who could come first, they could come 64th versus a team that just can't start fourth. I like that. That's that's what we were last season as well, right? Top one and then top 17. So GK, when when you guys lost, they had the 12-0 champ Sunday. Did you expect that? Well, I guess no one really expected it, but what did that do for you guys like confidence-wise and stuff to to lose that last event? Uh I think I wouldn't say did I mean I
• 17:00 - 17:30 don't like losing so and I don't think anyone does uh to be honest but it I think it's still good like we we took away a lot of things from that uh from that specific uh loss. Uh but it was under very specific circumstances like we had like a huge break because of the server issues. I don't know if you remember but there was like a 2 hours delay or something before the finals. Um, and yeah, like the the whole day was really confusing and long and I think we
• 17:30 - 18:00 didn't handle it very well and we learned from it. Um, and not just that, but I I think they kind of showed us one of our weaknesses like GK the way they played and the way uh we faced against them. So we really took our time to you know uh talk a lot about the series to analyze it pretty much deeply and then we were very confident going into the measure especially because we knew at that point that it was very likely we were going to face them again. So we
• 18:00 - 18:30 yeah we took a deep deep dive on it and uh I mean obviously other people look at it and and are like oh it could have been the perfect split but maybe not you know like maybe we would have lost at the measure if we did not have that one loss to you know make us realize we're not Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Put us on the on our feet again and be like okay we still have a lot to work on. We still have weaknesses. Let's find them and uh and work on them. I think he did us good. So
• 18:30 - 19:00 yeah, I'm I'm I'm happy with how it worked out. And where's the team at now then? Is it like, you know, just performance-wise, do do you guys feel like you you're near your the peak for this for this roster now after a split and and a major and a regional? Uh I I really like Wait, what's the question? Just like where where do you think the team's at now? I guess like performance-wise near the peak. I think we're not at our best right now.
• 19:00 - 19:30 Yeah, we we obviously have still uh some weaknesses. Um we I don't think we were playing at our best this weekend. Obviously, we had like some issues with the internet and stuff. Uh so that was not the ideal way of playing, but we still pulled through. Uh I I don't know since the measure I don't think we are our best but I think it's mostly due to the fact that there is like the game was like the DDOS and stuff like it's I don't know it just messed up with everyone in Europe like the the screams were really bad because
• 19:30 - 20:00 everyone was so bad individually because no one was playing like no one could actually play the game. So um I think it took a little bit of time to just readapt to the just competition and and screams and everything. Um, and I'm not I'm not like uh particularly proud of how we played like on the field this weekend. I'm just really really happy with how we managed to, you know, handle our issues and like could focus only on the game play gameplay wise. I think we have a lot to
• 20:00 - 20:30 still a lot of a lot a lot to improve on um for for the rest of the split, but at least we won which gives us a big big uh you know edge for the for the major qualification and we actually can look forward to you know like pretty much Leon already rally already you know like LA events and we have like leeway we have like space to work uh you know so it's it's like very comfortable right just pulled up the e the full playoffs
• 20:30 - 21:00 for EU to recap. So you guys you go 40 against GK. That's a nice one. Nice one to get back in upper bracket quarterfinals. You then Champ Sunday, you have the game seven against general mates. Why does it feel like when when it still gets to this situation? I think I was watching this one with Johnny in the green room. Even when you guys go to game seven OT, it just it still feels like you guys are going to win. Like I I just I think I'd already put Yeah, it's
• 21:00 - 21:30 just a the Casey play. Do you feel that as well as the coach? Like you're you're not the only one saying that? Like uh even Camel was saying that and I think I'm hearing a lot of people saying that. I don't know if it's because we just won a lot uh recently or it's actually because of the gameplay and how composed the players are because like this year it does feel like we're like extremely solid mentally you know like no matter what happens we like the players they don't stress they don't like we I don't know we're so composed all the time so
• 21:30 - 22:00 like even in a tense situation like we still play how we want to play we still try to play how we want to play like there's no nerves affecting how we make take our decisions we which maybe is what you feel I guess like and like I think you see you're going to see like dry going for like double triple three preset with like you know game seven or like game seven over time which is I don't know it's not something you usually see from players they're usually going to go for like simple stuff in a do or die situation right I guess
• 22:00 - 22:30 what do you think about the gentlemates team by the way with Eugen they've massively improved results-wise uh but what are your thoughts I mean, I think it was really hard to do worse than they did last split. So, I think they could only improve. Um, that's a really like glass half empty way of saying they went game seven with Carvin Carver is pretty good, you know, hard to do. Um, I mean, yeah, as I said, like it's
• 22:30 - 23:00 because I don't really put a lot of stock on our performance this weekend. uh just because of the amount of issues we had uh with the connection and stuff and the the technical poses and stuff. So I don't know how to what to take away from from that series but like looking at their other series I think like their their win against NIP is pretty big for the for the split and they I think they are slightly better than expected. Um, but I don't know if they can, you know, content for the titles. Maybe maybe they can. If they just won the overtime
• 23:00 - 23:30 against us, maybe they would have won the the regional, but uh I don't know. I'm still seeing stuff from them that uh is uh I don't know uh not the greatest, but obviously they're playing much much better. And I think they can and will qualify to the major like I I would bet on that. Yeah. Grand final mentality passing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What I was going to ask about that too. What What is your opinion on Vitality? Because it looks I
• 23:30 - 24:00 don't know. You guys are 8 at this point. I think it was. Is it eight and0 against them? I I think it's more. I think it's Yeah, it must be more than 10. I think it depends if you count like all of the flip and spin and all. I think it's 11 outside of RLCS overall. 11. Yeah, I saw that. 11. I mean I mean we I mean I haven't lost since I left vitality. I can vitality. Um even do you lose scrims? Like is it just Yeah, we do. We do. We actually we actually did not have the greatest
• 24:00 - 24:30 scream week uh before the regional. So that was that. Um I don't know. Vity is weird. It feels like everyone is in Europe is struggling against them, but I do not like I think like we would struggle more against other teams. Like to me they feel like their their I mean like all of their like um how to put it all of their unexpected stuff comes from only one player and it feels like in
• 24:30 - 25:00 today's game it's uh kind of a pretty big weakness. Um so obviously you know Exo and Monkey they they they won last year so people might be thinking sure but they won. So surely then you know that it's not that big of a of a weakness. But I don't know it does feel like the game still evolves and I don't know it might start to feel like it's like having a team like composed like that might not be enough like this season. Like it does feel like
• 25:00 - 25:30 uh if like if they like I don't think their pick is really really high. I think their floor is really really high but their pick a lot of teams I see have a better pick than them especially internationally like and we saw that at the major like okay it's true they they breathe through Swiss but then in best of seven I don't know some some stuff happened and they just could not get thing going so yeah I don't know it does look like yeah they
• 25:30 - 26:00 they have a really really high flow obviously you have an extremely experienced team and just like great players overall, but when it comes to abilities on the field, I mean, Zen is obviously a major threat, but Monkey and Exo uh and I would say not so much anymore, but they do like on the ball, they do not do as much as many other players, uh, you know, that you see at the majors and stuff like that. So, yeah, it's a it's a weird case. it to us like it we
• 26:00 - 26:30 we're comfortable playing against them and uh and uh they have their own unique play style and it does feel like as I said like it does feel like if a team picks on them they're going to struggle uh which Europe struggles to do but we don't so so far we're good yeah when I when I watch it feels like cuz I I I thought this this weekend and then I especially thought this when they lost to ultimates uh at the major it's like they're really good at getting on
• 26:30 - 27:00 offense and then once they get to doing something with the ball, it's like very flat. Like what what unless it's Zen right now and then it looks like Zen gets frustrated and then he starts going for insane stuff like once they are on offense for like three straight minutes and can't score it. It almost looks like he's like all right and then he starts going for more like crazy stuff and then and then they just get like this weekend you guys counter them like over half the goals. So just like a counterattack for the most part and then I mean like if you look at if you look at the major like uh that's how so like that's how
• 27:00 - 27:30 they lose most of the time. It's like they they try something and it just like because they have to I don't know push so hard to get it they get counterattacked and it's GG. And if they don't they don't have anything on offense. So it's like it's a bit of a weird tradeoff they have to do because they like they feel like they lack they lack the firepower like collectively because they only have one player who can actually do a lot with the ball. I'm not saying like don't I know what you
• 27:30 - 28:00 mean. Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm not saying Exo or Monkey are bad players. They're great and amazing in some aspects but like one v3 potential you mean? Yeah. In two days on Yeah. Yeah. Very similar. And uh obviously they won last year, but yeah, we're like eight months later, so like stuff changed. Stuff changes. And it does feel like slowly but surely it like it's not enough at some point. It's not going to be enough. Maybe maybe I'm wrong, you know, like but it does feel like they're they're lacking a bit of firepower. Yeah. To me, it feels like
• 28:00 - 28:30 their world's win condition this time is like they're going to need a like a crash out from you guys like last year. Like they need everyone else to cool off and then I think it would work. That's what it feels like. If everyone else cooled off at at the end of the year, then I could see them doing it. Yeah, because the their floor is so so high. So like if Yeah. If if no one is picking, they can win. And under high pressure, which Leon is going to be under Yeah. the most amount of pressure anyone has
• 28:30 - 29:00 ever felt. Uh at least for French people. um they can maybe do better than than online or on online but if another team picks it's hard for them to win and like I'm not saying we're going to win worlds but if we don't right now I would bet on other regions team than the European team really like uh even Vitality like you'd you'd pick yeah I would I would put I would put I would pick energy falcons
• 29:00 - 29:30 um at least those over them. Like maybe there is some other teams that can do well. Uh so far I haven't seen enough. I think like ultimate they did great but one event uh or two uh um and the Furia maybe but it's always on and off with them. So I don't know there is a couple teams that I see more potential you know. Do you think that the having a a world's a land in France
• 29:30 - 30:00 is more of an disadvantage than an advantage just because of the pressure? Oh, no. No. I think I think we would have that every day. It's just it's going to be huge. So, it's different. Like I'm not like it's just like it's going to be different. So we I think I think some players are going to be, you know, playing a bit different, you know. So it could work in their in some other team's way. Like it it could it could focus up. It could work very well in in our favor. It could work very well in
• 30:00 - 30:30 another team's favor. Like I'm not we we have to really really be ready for it. It's like that's that's the way I see it. It's like it's it's going to be very different from all of the lands we had. The closest we had from it was Dildov. Um, but it's going to be another level of like atmosphere and uh and uh yeah, engagement from everyone and from everywhere pretty much. So, uh yeah, it could mess up with like what players are used to and and how they behave online
• 30:30 - 31:00 and how they play online, you know. Do you think Lance for this is probably one for for you guys, Garrett, you probably got a little bit further, I'd say arguably in Lance than I did. Do you think lands back in the day was more about arguably you know we'd have to pull up we'd have to pull up to liquiped I think just to just to check on on full results fair I think you might have got a little bit further as well in a couple of events um yeah who knows it was such a long time ago um but do you
• 31:00 - 31:30 think back then it was more about like as you said people played down it was more about kind of the higher floor rather than higher peak on land like just like consistency But now it's more like you need the higher peak or is it still I mean I think still on day one the game's terrible. Vitality looked great when everyone else was like uh you know ner like you know still getting the jitters out but by the end of the tournament it does feel like you're getting closer to like online play when I watch at least and even when I when I
• 31:30 - 32:00 play obviously it's still land so like land things happen and stuff but it does look different than back then though. By the end of the tournament, it looks it looks it looks it looks better. Yeah, people look more comfortable than than back then at least. I think still back then at the end of the tournament it was still it was still different. But no matter how long we go like every every major day one looks terrible every single time it looks so bad to me at least. It looks like everyone's so nervous. Yeah. Do do you guys agree?
• 32:00 - 32:30 Because like you've all been players except Johnny but um Yep. All yeah on online play like no no no like to me I rank I rank like uh quality of place like scream is the highest quality of play you can have and then it's going to be online RCS and then it's going to be online which is the lowest quality like game play are going to have like scream is the best like because no one has pressure everyone is doing some crazy [ __ ] so uh there is no pressure sometimes like players like peak under pressure and um it it give like you some
• 32:30 - 33:00 of the greatest moments we've ever had like season five panels and stuff like that, but like on average scream scream gameplay is the highest you're going to have. It does feel right. Like you guys felt different. Oh yeah. Oh yeah, 100%. Cuz I mean I've I've had struggles of translating it to to like we talk about this every time even in the last Energy team like our scrums were great. It was just like as soon as it was an official match just vibes gone like awful pressure like gone. It it
• 33:00 - 33:30 didn't matter what mode it is. And we were talking about this, I think last week with Shopify. We were wondering if like maybe they should start scrimming in a more realistic way because people rate them so high in scrims every single year, but it feels like they struggle to to do it uh in matches. So yeah, I think it's not and it's hard to explain to people how you know like this pressure hits, you know, like it's uh I don't know playing in is not easy, but I mean sometimes it is that's that's the weird thing. Sometimes it is easy when
• 33:30 - 34:00 everything goes well and sometimes you're like you're getting the weirdest stuff like so the weirdest stuff happens and you just ask yourself like so many questions and then your game play suffers a lot from it and it's like even more online and as you said like on day one online it's the game play is uh questionable. Uh but the the more we go on like year after year I think players are getting more and more comfortable. They're more confident in their mechanics as well. And I think like it takes like nowadays we're getting closer
• 34:00 - 34:30 to what we can what what we know we can do like online from my opinion like No 100%. Yeah. I think I can confirm as one of the four players in this call who's played on a championship Saturday. I know Johnny I think you can confirm I think you can confirm based on how Rizzo was playing in ranked versus when he was playing on stage. Not the same. Yeah. very different kind of vibe with the teammates like and how hard they're carrying me or not carrying me up to expectations. Uh the opponents as well,
• 34:30 - 35:00 I mean just panic flipping. It's it's a different different setting for sure. No, but the thing is like something we didn't bring up, but also the the communication is very different because with the crowd and that's something that's going to be really big in Leon, but like the noise gets to you, which obviously you don't have in Scream, you know, like your com is really clear, very, you know, not I mean nothing can happen in your coms. I'll tell you one thing I didn't like. Oh, sorry. Go on. I thought I thought online is I mean online, you know, with the the crowd and everything, it's very different and you
• 35:00 - 35:30 know, you hear everything. Your mic is not perfect like it's never perfect. It's I hated that I couldn't hear myself cuz when you're when you're using a caster headset you have audio from yourself in your ear like you know puts it back in. Uh but on the player player headsets you can't hear yourself which for a caster is really weird. I'm speaking I'm like wait is my mic broken? What's going on? Wait right now. Are you hearing yourself right now? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This a cast it's a studio headset so I can hear myself. I hate that. Yeah. Yeah. Players hate it but like for and
• 35:30 - 36:00 most people would hate it. I mean, the first time you anybody uses one of these headsets, they're like, "Oh, is that what I sound like?" I think I was like, "Why do you want to hear yourself when I hear?" But it's really difficult when you're casting to know uh you know if you're because when you're playing it doesn't really matter if you peak the microphone or something or you know sound really bad cuz it's just coms as long as your play teammates understand you. And then it's also good to not hear yourself because you can hear your teammates more easily. So in that situation really really good not to hear yourself but for casting you need to
• 36:00 - 36:30 yeah it makes sense makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Yeah. You need that. I hate that. I was like oh this is I I I was really confused by I I just kept thinking my mic was broken. It was really weird. But I think even people that like haven't played on land will know you know when you're playing ranked and it's like 3:00 in the morning and you're in flow state and you're like oh my god like why can't I play like this all the time? Cuz suddenly like you're not thinking. It's just like easy you know. But then when you're playing like I know you're more switched on. you start thinking about things. It's the same thing on land. Like when you're on land, you start thinking, okay, there's so much there's a lot of other noise
• 36:30 - 37:00 going on. There's there's the crowd obviously, but also you're like, oh, if I go for this ball, what if what if I miss or like what if is you just start second guessing yourself and then and then it builds and builds. Yeah, I was going to say that nowadays it feels like like when Vira first came into the scene, I was like the confidence he had, I was like, what the heck? Like what is this guy tweeting? But now it seems tame. Like I I feel like so many people are are that level of like confident in themselves now compared to like our era of players back
• 37:00 - 37:30 too. I mean when when we were playing we weren't really challenged. I think it's a format thing as well because of league play and stuff. It was hard for new player to to break in and you kind of needed to I mean you could not come in with as much confidence because the pros would not pick you up, right? Like usually someone Yeah. So I think I think we kind of made our own bed with that one. Uh and and nowadays with the open era um it just happens that obviously the more confident player play players are the the better they're going to be. So yeah and some of played so like even
• 37:30 - 38:00 like now that I'm doing these qualifiers like it feels like everyone I mean you know obviously we're not good so it's different but they they are like there it feels like everyone's a lot less nervous than even the first two years of the open open era. like they've played so many qualifiers at this point that they're like screw it. Let's just do like let's just I mean I mean again I think I think it's a format thing like you remember I mean you both you both had to do it but like the the LCS qualifiers back in the day when you only had you had qualify one chance
• 38:00 - 38:30 and you yeah you have to you have to make it or you're screwed for six months and you don't do anything. It's like it's some of the most nerve-wracking situations you can be. And even like, you know, like I still think about them because nowadays we have like the tiebreers, you know, in case like two teams go ahead and it's that's the funniest thing. But back then we we only had that like to qualify every time. Yeah. Every time either you were making top two and you were fine on league play, either you had to have a [ __ ] tiebreaker to to make land. It's the
• 38:30 - 39:00 craziest stuff. Like it's so so hard to play. Even league play was like you're prepping all week for one best of five. But I mean I think that's that that's why the game play was sometimes questionable. But I think it's so good. Like I know dude if we knew K like I say this every time if you if you waited all split for Kc court verse Vitality towards the end of the split everyone would be so hyped that week. And after one match, you know that like I think viewer fetting is is a thing, right? We don't want to see 10 times
• 39:00 - 39:30 vitality case. You guys are like 15 and0 at this point. Yeah. Like I don't I'm not that interested personally. I'm really not interested in watching at this point. Like if it was like okay, I'm telling you one there is going to be only one match between us or like two maybe if there's another one on land and it's going to be you know next week you're going to every every goal has like it f you feel every goal more. I think it was so different. Yeah, I I do miss it. I wish there was a good hybrid option because I think that it's so it's I'm so over it online like
• 39:30 - 40:00 unless there's a tiebreaker then I'm really interested like that's when I'm really locked in. tiebreaker tie breakers are like or like I mean land finals or like land semi-final elimination much on on land does feel the same way but outside of that it's uh yeah it's nowadays there's so much that yeah you can mess up it's fine like there's so much to do so you'll be fine you can play the same match two weeks later and and make up for it so well you know the other the problem with
• 40:00 - 40:30 I agree with you guys think like a more cutthroat format would be really exciting but every time that that's that idea is floated or anytime that a team is presented with that situation by like Bruno Buckalts or or some other format it's like what this is so unfair what do you mean we have to you know single or split in the life yeah but that feels random though like like oh I just got punished for like you don't get rewarded for going through that just feels like random randomizing stuff it happens
• 40:30 - 41:00 every format though it's every single format is like this in some way brainer buckles is just a iteration of randomness. The fact that the fact that you can go 9 and0 as the first seed and still lose your seed is crazy to me. Like the amount of times we got bracket [ __ ] this season. We we made it out, right? Like we we only lost two series. So it's not like it matter. But come on. Like if we go win 9 and just give us the weakest team. Like why do we have to play some
• 41:00 - 41:30 major contin? Same same stuff last week, bro. NIP messes up there. They're checking. Actually, funny thing is I reported that bug three months ago. It still hasn't been fixed. It's a Star GG bug. Uh I know what it is. Uh but obviously they should have checked in. They they know about this. But still, why do we have to play an IP first round in in in this in the Swiss, you know? It's like, dude, what? And then obviously they they [ __ ] themselves more than any anyone else. But still like the whole bracket was so weird after that only because of
• 41:30 - 42:00 one star GG bug and also the fact that they did not want to reinvite the top eight uh after major for some reason when it's just didn't do that after the major like top eight were reinvited after regional one and then two but now after the major they're not I I think that's a bit strange but I mean I would love a more cutthroat format. I would love a more direct format. I agree with what you said earlier that the winners qualifying to land is makes sense. You know, GK
• 42:00 - 42:30 winning a regional going to land. Imagine that every regional winner just goes to land. You just win a regional, you go to land. That's your top three. We talked about this at some point, right? But but then but then but then I'm like if you win a regional, do you skip all the like are you disqualified from? You could win too. And then at that point it would just go more more spots would open up to points I guess. Uh after that like points was could be a secondary thing. uh then winning would be the main thing. But you you need there needs to be a balance because competitive integrity is obviously
• 42:30 - 43:00 important and you can't just have it all as a single. Yeah, I'm not sure about that. The auto call cuz if you're in the first one, I just feel like it's well these guys have already made it but they're let's see if they can win another one or Yeah, you you have to go again. I I don't think you just don't play regional two and three. I mean there's prize money on those so you have to play them. But again about the cut thing, it does feel like more of I mean I think I think I think our point was more about the excitement we have. Yeah. And just like being able to build up stuff. I think for for orgs as well,
• 43:00 - 43:30 but like that's another topic. It's like for orgs being able to market their next series is also such a big deal. I mean you see it with like nowadays with the content we we do. Uh so Casey, Gentle Mates, Vit I mean everyone nowadays do it but you know like there's lots of banter with between so between I think the some of some of the fans really love it but it's almost not possible on Rocket League because you play original where you have like 10,000 series one after the other you cannot build up anything on social media whereas if you
• 43:30 - 44:00 look at other esports like you go on I don't know you you go league league event or like you watch le you watch anything obviously it's 10 teams so again It's league play against an open format and I think both have their benefits but obviously when you have league play you can just have a set schedule and know what to prep for build up for the week like yeah we're playing this team this week and you can do the headtohead you can do little interviews stuff like that like
• 44:00 - 44:30 but it's hard because because then it's not it's not it's not as open as it is Epic Games doesn't like that so yeah you just have to know what Liipedia is and have a million tabs open to actually watch the esport now. I think that's so bad. I think it's terrible. Personally, I think it's not great. It's not a great viewing experience. I agree. They need to what they need to do or what we need to do maybe is we need to do like a kind of Shark Tank episode of Chocked where we have We are the We are in chart. We're going to like
• 44:30 - 45:00 decide the best format. People come to us with their format suggestions. Oh, I love it. I love it. Like we're going to get Tates on here. He's going to like, you know, come to us and present his league play for his franchise league play option with like each city in in North America getting their own spot. We just like have a Yeah. four or five people come on one after another. They get 20 minutes to like tell us all about their format. We can ask them questions and then Dude, it's so good. It could it could open up so many new ideas as well.
• 45:00 - 45:30 I'm serious. I'm a format nerd, so I would love that. But we're think about that. We always get back into format. I like Yeah. Let's Let's park that for a for a night. That's a great app. Actually, we should get We'll get viewers on. We'll get T-bates on. Whoever wants to LA wants to come on. John wants to come on surely. We'll get We'll get people on for that. We'll get a We'll get a full format and then maybe maybe we get someone from from Epic or Blast. Imagine that. We get them. We just need to get get Paul in. Paul Shepard listening. Uh Paul in as a as a
• 45:30 - 46:00 judge as the fifth judge cuz right now we're four people. We're not enough. We need someone else to like, you know, be the deciding vote. Otherwise, it could be a draw. Tim Sweeny's in here as well. I don't know about that one. I prefer this. We don't really have him on speed dial, unfortunately. I think he's busy fighting Apple, so I don't know. He's fighting major battles up there, but um yeah, I guess just to just to round out the the European side of things, we'll get into the NA recap in a sec. You guys as well have qualified. Speaking of
• 46:00 - 46:30 qualifying early for something, uh pretty early qualification for Worlds for Leon. Uh, how does does this change anything for you guys? Um, I guess for the rest of the the season, the rest of the split and Riley or is it kind of just building? No, I mean after after we won the major, we pretty much knew we were locked in already. Like like I think we we locked in the like mathematically the qualification after the semi-finals we won. The thing is like if we can lock it in by now, it does mean that realistically we were
• 46:30 - 47:00 going to have it either way. like we just needed like it was just about one or two scenarios left and that's why we needed you know like four more points or something but we knew after the major like I knew already okay we have enough points like realistically speaking it's going to be more than enough to be even top three seed or top two seed even if we stop playing right now but obviously we are not going to stop playing we won't know the idea is just going to be get that first seed um I think we're more focused on actually qualifying for rally because that's still not done and once that will be done.
• 47:00 - 47:30 Um, yeah, I guess we're going to focus on the lands themselves, but we might be in a situation where our six regional have no stakes outside of cash price, which is an interesting uh thing, but uh yeah, maybe. Yeah, and the strict strict true love it. We'll see. We'll see how it goes. It's a it's a rich man's problem, so I will take that any but I love it like qualifying for Leon. So obviously at the start of the
• 47:30 - 48:00 season we it's I mean the expectation is to win or to at least be contending for the win. So obviously qualifying is uh not I'm not saying it's a given. It's not easy but we should make it. We made it. So it's it's not going to be as much of a question as it was last year. Um so yeah it's a I don't I'm really I'm really proud because the the world is going to be really important and you see how it means for gentle mates to have missed that first split and so and the tough the tough situation they're in.
• 48:00 - 48:30 Like it's it's hard and you know at least we don't have to worry about that anymore. So I'm I'm happy. I have a question. Uh I don't know if you'll answer it really, but I'm just curious because I feel like you're a pretty, you know, pretty good coach, a little successful. What what is your what is your opinion on the uh energy being defensive story line? I want to know what you think about that or you know might not
• 48:30 - 49:00 answer because you might not want to help him. And based on that, did you see this after you tweet regarding this? Yeah. And he Yeah, he he did like a few paragraphs saying that he's surprised that's even a story. Yeah. If you if you didn't see pull it on screen while you Yeah. Yeah. You can maybe summarize it. I might have seen it, but I just I don't know what the big story is behind it. Okay, the summary of that is I mean it kind of came out from Matthew tweeting this. This is where where it came from, but uh Matthew's not just tweeting this out of nowhere. Like there has been a you know dialogue about
• 49:00 - 49:30 play styles obviously as there would be but yeah he he tweeted it's the last paragraph of his tweet after winning the major or the regional last week. He said also this narrative of us being a defensive team or having some new defensive play style is some of the most asinine stuff I've ever read. So yeah, some of the most ridiculous stuff he's ever read. We are still the same team building on what we have done in the past year and what Atomic and I have learned uh in our time beyond that. Sometimes an off date happens or a team could put us under extended pressure because they're executing well. We're
• 49:30 - 50:00 always going to try to set the pace, trust in what we're doing and we'll deliver. somebody posted that tweet to the Reddit and he was actually responding to Reddit comments elaborating on his take and he did elaborate on the Reddit uh to say that he was thinking um I think more correct me if I'm wrong in Twitch chat but I think he was speaking more about regionally and he did say that in the world of Rocket League teams like KC and Falcons would be considered more aggressive than NRG but he yeah he does
• 50:00 - 50:30 think it's a crazy take to call Yeah. Okay. I I I think I know I know why people say that because uh people nowadays are very centered around stats and I think at the major it was very obvious they were not scoring a lot of goals. They were struggling to I mean all of their games were like really low scoring. So it looked like a very defensive series but to everyone thinking that I could I think people just do I would say do not watch the game but they do not understand what's
• 50:30 - 51:00 happening. Um there is one particular series I have in mind. Go watch back the energy versus vitality series at the major and energy is not playing defensive like they have pressure pretty much the whole game. The only reason Vitality is winning is by huge mistakes from Energy who just overcommit every time and I'm like yeah it does feel people people say that because of the stats and they haven't scored a lot at the major and um so obviously it sparked probably this discussion. Um, maybe
• 51:00 - 51:30 there's something behind it. I don't know what they work on specifically. And as you said, I think we obviously we do stuff differently. So maybe, you know, their way of seeing the game is a bit more defensive. But you you put them against most of the teams there. They're not going to be defensive. They they're they're going to control the whole game. So it's not I don't know. I guess I guess it depends on how people by what people mean by what people mean by defensive as well. Yeah, it's not a challenge. It's it's you know which ball
• 51:30 - 52:00 they decide to go for and stuff like that. I don't know. Um not to I don't I don't think they're defensive team. You're saying Swiss match round three cuz I was looking for this one. I yeah I couldn't remember the match but they played in Swiss road three in the Yeah I people should go watch it and and you know some of the goals called by here are like yeah okay I mean sure uh you capital on a big mistake but dude that should have been an early game of the week and that's why I was confused because everyone after the after the
• 52:00 - 52:30 Swiss stage was like dude Vit speaking that vit speaking and I actually watched that vit and I was like h I'm not as confident as everyone here about Vitality obviously because I know them more but even then it did feel like they got away with a lot uh against Energy. So yeah, uh obviously against us uh all of the series were all of the games were really low scoring and uh yeah, they struggled more than they than than we did, but outside of that I mean a lot of teams struggle to score against
• 52:30 - 53:00 us so that I don't know it doesn't uh yeah I would agree with Matthew. Uh I think I think maybe they're more defensive than than us but what do I think? Yeah. Yeah. What do you think? I think I think that it's something they're saying because they're just not winning like as much like they're I think it's just a narrative that started and every time every team plays I thought the KC Corp versus Vitality I thought KCOR was I thought you guys were playing a lot of defense. I thought that was even the game seven for Glemates I
• 53:00 - 53:30 was like wow Genates like has them pretty pretty pinned back but it's like not something that's spoken about and obviously they got the win but every time Energy is about to lose a series they're like why are they on defense? I'm like they're trying to not get scored on. Um, but yeah, I mean I think that they're a little bit It was weird though because I remember thinking like I wish I at the major I was like I feel like they need be a little more physical and then a stat popped up that Atomic had the second most demos per game and I was like oh never mind I was completely wrong about that. Um but but you see I
• 53:30 - 54:00 think you I think people put too much stock on stats because okay sure the demo stat is one thing how many of them how yeah how how many of them are actually impactful you know and and and it's the same with the saves and stuff like that like sometimes stats do not tell the full story at all. Uh and you can you can get like useless demos just as much you can get like really really good bumps that will not count as demos and stuff like that you know. So yeah I can see where I'm going with it. But uh as well as like I mean there was
• 54:00 - 54:30 definitely times where I thought they they were a little bit but then I think back to I think I don't remember if it was the major or worlds last year when they beat BDS that was a lowcoring series like it it's just it's been a common theme for them and it's worked. So I don't think it's kind of like what we were talking about with Falcons. It's like does Falcons need to go and and re redo their play style because they didn't look good? No. They just didn't execute as well, you know. So, I think they've always had a really strong defense and I don't think it's something they should really stray away from. Um,
• 54:30 - 55:00 yeah, maybe the offense was lacking and and and like people thought like perceive that as oh, you're not scoring, so obviously you're on defense. No, no, they're just not scoring on their chances. Like the Vital 80 series is I mean, people should rewatch it like people should vitality energy. Yeah. Like some of the overtimes go look stupid because it's just a Yeah. wild mistake and the game is lost on that and then the series probably sloppy. Yeah, it's I mean that
• 55:00 - 55:30 stage of the tournament is generally like not energy's best, right? They they kind of improve day on day so their championship Sunday is the main day I guess for them in terms of what to expect. Yeah. And I I think they set the standard so high last year like you know obviously making top twos every single time. And I I do think, you know, there hasn't been as many peak beast mode moments maybe so far. And I think maybe that's why. But besides that, we're comp, you know, people are complaining about what, two regional wins, three
• 55:30 - 56:00 regional wins now. Like, you know, there's really not not too much to to complain about. I think it's just the standard they set last year was so so high that seeing them struggle at all, which their struggling was top four at the major. they still took down Falcons. Like I don't know. I think maybe it's just a little bit of a overblown narrative about it. I did say on my stream the other day they've you know the bit about Satthew tweet that he said that they've not changed their place or they've not changed into a more
• 56:00 - 56:30 defensive style. Like I uh I agree with that. I don't think they've visibly at least changed much stylistically um from last year. But one question I wanted to have for you guys about this uh before I I've got some other like more specific questions, but just generally, do you think that def being defensive is considered a bad thing? Because it sounds like Satu in the like in the tweet is taking it a bit personally that people are calling him defensive or calling his team defensive.
• 56:30 - 57:00 And I've heard a lot of it's not just Satthew. This is Justin. He's he's put himself out there by tweeting. But there's a general vibe from fans, viewers, even players. Defensive is just not Yes. Defensive is not sexy. People said the same thing to us back then. What's wrong with what's wrong with being defensive? If it's like I don't know if you know the the example, maybe Johnny, you know it, but like it's like being the Atletico Madrid of uh of you know in poker in football. It's like,
• 57:00 - 57:30 yeah, sexy, but it's exactly it's not it's not exa exciting. You know, you're not scoring the the the high the low percentage goal. You're not scoring the the big plays. You're just putting the wall in defense. So, it's not it's not sexy. But is Shopify sexy? Yes. You know, like that's full off. Full off. Well, at least last split. Um, but no, I'm with you. I'm with you. I think Okay, I've got another question to to to Garrett and maybe Farah, you might have noticed this one as well. So, do you guys think that NRG this season, maybe
• 57:30 - 58:00 last season as well, but I think, you know, this season mainly, um, played differently when it's when the score is nil nil or 1-1, you know, when they're tied slash ahead to when they're losing. Can you tell? And obviously teams should play to some degree differently, but how how differently do you guys think they play? Uh, does does their style change when they're losing? Do they look more aggressive to you when they're down? I mean, I think energy ramps it up a little bit, but I think it's because I think I obviously I don't know
• 58:00 - 58:30 for sure, but energy seems pretty happy when they're up a goal, too, though. So, it's like I don't think they're really pushing for I don't think they're always pushing as hard as as say like Falcons are to score maybe. I don't I don't know if that makes sense, but they seem a lot of their games are low scoring. So, it's like obviously Yeah. when they're they're I don't know. I don't know what I'm trying to say. I do think energy ramps it up though a bit. I think they Yeah, I think so. But it also rarely happens so it's hard to
• 58:30 - 59:00 say like it's it's there's not a big sample size that I can think of right now. Yeah. To to me to me it's Yeah. I'm not watch I probably I haven't watched all of the series this season. I'm watching mostly the the playoffs for N regionals and the majors. Yeah. I'm not sure we can really like it does feel they're lacking the it's hard to say and I think the the main reason is because any competition it's not the stiffest you can have. So uh um so
• 59:00 - 59:30 obviously like they're dominating and they do not need to push too hard for it. So I guess that's the feeling you can get. Uh but I I guess we saw the the limits of that maybe at at Birmingham. So when they actually needed to score, it just it never it never f should they be pushing then pharaoh if you're s put yourself in sat here shoes you're in North America you're saying they're a weak region and they're they're just kind of doing enough you know they're just winning but it's not you know if you want to be a world you know you're
• 59:30 - 60:00 the NRG coach you want them to be world champions would you be pushing them more like we need to be like stomping don't like don't take the foot off? Uh no I mean it would be a matter of play style. would not be a matter of like having more goals. It just be I mean I guess I see the game different than them. But yeah, I I would like to see other type of plays I guess um in in the in the in their game play. Um so yeah, I would push to do some
• 60:00 - 60:30 stuff differently as everyone would like. No one has the same vision for the game, but um but yeah, like and maybe it would lead to to to more goals, but also maybe it would lead to more goals for the opponent. So that's the that's the thing like trade-off. The balance has to be found and I think that their balance is really good because they keep qualifying, they keep winning, they keep like semi-finals at at a major is nothing to be ashamed of. I think people are a bit yeah as you said I think the standard they set for themselves last
• 60:30 - 61:00 year was uh maybe a bit too high and people need to chill just a tiny bit about that what they what they what they do is not easy yeah Seth has written a comment here for I'll read it for the audio listeners he says in the live chat maintenance of a style is hard and the tiniest details can completely alter outcomes of play and the rhythm of your team some of those details were missing in Birmingham as well as pure execution in some cases like Farah said our series against them is this fight does he mean
• 61:00 - 61:30 KC here or he means KC uh so yeah like fair said the series against KC showed a more defensive side to energy but that's to the credit of KC our entire tournament didn't speak uh to us being defensive uh so that's that's continued take here it was KC as he ended the sentence I should have read ahead what it did say I think this whole conversation is honestly just semantics I think it's just It's just some people talking about one thing. Other people
• 61:30 - 62:00 like the definition of defense. I think it's just semantics. Yeah. Some people think defensive and they think goalkeepers. Other people like I mean I'm thinking when I say a defensive team, I'm meaning like which team, you know, took the big boost and left versus which team took the small pad and eagle challenged, you know? I'm thinking more like aggressive, passive, maybe offensive, offensive. Yeah. or maybe like risk averse versus willing to take the risk. I that's where I'm looking at tendencies of teams and I see energy as
• 62:00 - 62:30 a largely riskaverse team who are playing you know pretty safe for the most part taking the the big boost putting the kind of like the the systematic pressure in their opponents and then eventually there's a clear-cut like solo play. But yeah, I'd say like a Falcons or like a KC or someone like Z and just ego challenging someone being like, "Nah, stuff this. I'm just going to just going to send it and see what happens from third man. Oh, nice. They didn't see it coming. We've scored." But
• 62:30 - 63:00 this is not good or bad. I don't think that it's bad what energy do. I I think there there are other people who do think it's bad. I I I don't think it's actually bad. It just needs to be tweaked. But the identity is fine. Yeah. I think it's a matter of balance. That's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. Like Falcons I'd say is the team that plays the most like on the line like right on the edge where you see the big like okay it's randomly open the line even they need they need to come back a little bit. Yeah. People are saying their defense is bad after this. I was going to say, yeah, if you
• 63:00 - 63:30 but if you I think it is a very overblown cuz when I was watching that major and when I went back and watched it, it felt like a couple more shots they hit a couple more shots, they're in the their streak is alive on land. Like, and a lot of the the goals they were giving up were very uncharacteristic errors that like I've never really seen them make that often. Like it it felt like they were off the whole event and that's their floor. Like their floor is very high, I think. And why would you change that? I think especially for you know,
• 63:30 - 64:00 the goals worlds and and like we said, we like I would still consider Vitality potential to win worlds just because their floor's so high, even though they're struggling to like finish stuff right now. Oh, for sure. Yeah. And it's very it's very important to have a high floor and Yeah. So, yeah. Yeah. When when you look at NRG in uh regional for sure, they look super aggressive because they're playing like so confidently. They're pre- jumping everything. They're not respecting their opponents because they don't have to. And sometimes like they'll get to a deep run of a tournament, they respect the opponents a lot. ultimates, maybe you'll see like a
• 64:00 - 64:30 more serious NRG performance, but they know like versus other teams, they don't they don't have to do anything crazy. They're they're probably going to win if they just play standard uh Rocket League and just chill out and eventually the the win will come. That's why they're always winning in NA against pretty much the whole competition. But uh on it, yeah, if you look at global top eight, I mean, as soon as you chuck SAM teams and Mina teams into the mix, you're probably going to see a higher percentage of ego challenges and risky plays just automatically. Casey, yeah, probably,
• 64:30 - 65:00 you know, same thing. You're just going to be like, what what is going on? Dally, like Farah said earlier, it's just triple flip resetting in game seven um as as third man with 20 boost. you're you're just in a different mix of teams where now I they skew more defensive. But if people are talking about a different subset, they're going to disagree. And this is I think where the confusion comes from. People hear, you know, energy are defensive compared to the global elite, but not like by a huge amount. They're just defensive. And then
• 65:00 - 65:30 somebody hears that and says, "What? I just saw them put up 10 goals in a row against, you know, some team in the in their own region." Defensive. I I think the main point I think you you said it. It's like people get vexed because like Yeah, being defensive is is seen as a bad thing, you know. Yeah. I don't know why it's not sexy. That's it. That's that's the end of story on that. Spe I mean you mentioned a high you mentioned preferring high floors and I think it's a good time to hop into some North American action fair. I know this is
• 65:30 - 66:00 your region of preference. Um, speaking of teams with high floors, the the most notable transfer in this window was the Reles and Justin swap. I would argue for Shopify that has improved their floor. Uh, adding a Reutles, but obviously you'd say individually, um, Justin probably adds a higher ceiling. What did you What were your thoughts on the on the transfer? Um, very hard to say because I I I mean Shopify we haven't I mean I I I it's
• 66:00 - 66:30 easier for me to judge a team when we play against them, you know, like when we scream against them or when we play. He's saying that they're not good enough to make an event. No, it's true. Silly question. Sorry. Top 10 top 10 team in the world. Uh well, why would I care about them is basically Yeah, I got Sunday and then maybe you'll be watching. All right, we'll move on from that one. That's That's probably a good call. Uh this is These are the NA Quzo we had yesterday. Talk me through it. Gas, what happened?
• 66:30 - 67:00 What happened, Captain? I'm I'm seeing a 13 down there, and I was expecting at least a 23, maybe round five. Listen, we got Here's what happened. First series, we were we were hyped. We almost went up 2-1 on Complexity. We were like, whoa. Run for their money. That was close. You're up in game four. And then, no, this is what happens every time. We go into a match, we're like, "Okay, nice. This is a good matchup." And then they're just way better than we think they are. And and then we lose. We got 03 the next one against JJ. I can't even
• 67:00 - 67:30 remember who's on the team, actually. Yeah. I can't even tell you who's on the team. JJ, there's just so many people. I don't know. And I'm like, where did this confidence come from? They're just prejumping. Like, we almost lost to Taco Stash 82 day two. We went to game five. This guy, I used to be more respected than that, but like Yeah. Yeah. Why am I Where's the Where's the captain aura? You got You're world champions over here and they're just they they're clipping on you. You got these rank kids clipping
• 67:30 - 68:00 on world champs. It's crazy. It's crazy. They're not even clipping really. They're just bumping us and then it's open. To be honest, no respect. We We get absolutely We We get demoed dip. Absolutely. It it's a it's a tough world out there for for a couple. They're not respecting the scrim rules in 2025 as well. They are behind the you're behind the Ora curve. It's like the the issue with the aura curve. It's like even coaching. Yeah. Yeah. So, you know, you know, like before you were like, I mean,
• 68:00 - 68:30 Captain America, so everyone was like, you know, big aura and everyone has I mean, you you had those series, right, where you're like, I'm like and I've had that like I think the the the one series in my mind is the complexity versus vitality at at in Boston where ADM is the weirdest, you know, it's like it's a miss. It's because you have so much missing. But the thing is like once once you fall on the curve, you just become another kid up where everyone actually thinks
• 68:30 - 69:00 everyone's confident on him. I really want to [ __ ] on him and he's not good anymore. So it's like all of the aura you you you actually used all of your aura and you you you're in the aura depth now and everyone is using it. Like there were so many series back then that felt like we won just because we were energy. Like we did not play good and they just Yeah. And they just played terrible because it was just like they didn't expect to win. Now it's like they're like nice. I'm
• 69:00 - 69:30 going to post this to my TikTok. I just beat Garrett squishy. Let's go. Exactly. They're more motivated against you than they would be against each other. Like if you see two two random teams, they would pick on you, but they would not pick against each other. Like Yeah. It's it's I'll tell you what though. You know what's good though? I think it goes, you know, or like the the curve, the aura curve that Farah is talking about. Yeah. You got to be above it for people to respect you and lose by just by freaking out. Now you're below it. But I think there's a lose to there's it's like
• 69:30 - 70:00 there's another orac and once you get low enough that you're below the other people are terrified. So you're saying I'm in the I'm in the I'm in the low spot but a high is already in that spot. It's really good actually. I don't I don't drag like I feel almost bad but not really dragging the what he's at now. It's like the alpha cam on the alpha. If CJ, me, and and Farah queued up and we we got we like sneak a game off of like some bubble players, they they would absolutely freak out. They
• 70:00 - 70:30 would It's like playing against back in the days, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I can't lose against Jesse, man. That's that's coming. If you can invest enough and like people thinking you're bad, then you get the benefit of the negative aura. Yeah, you need to keep losing that. I'll be I'll be waiting for those benefits. But no, if you want the real gas analysis, honestly, I don't know, bro. We're we're we're either top 12 in the regional or we're one and three. That's what's happened every time. We're we're two times top 12, two times one
• 70:30 - 71:00 and three. So, I'm not sure. But what I was actually sad about and which I know CJ is ready to just absolutely roast me for is the nine lives one and three. I don't know what happened to watch it. I mean, how many times is not even uploaded? I said it at the start of the season. You're a nine lives believer. I said they're no good. They're not going to do it. And look at them now. One and three. What actually happened? Listen, last week you were bowing down. Okay, I was we did lose and I was they did uh they did pretty good for a
• 71:00 - 71:30 top six. Um no, but I don't know. I don't know what happened. The VOD is not published. No, it's not published. I couldn't I couldn't go watch. So yeah, that's that is it has to be like a generational bad day. Like that's the only thing I could think of. Who' they lose to? It has to be. They lost to Oath, Repeat, and SWAS. And then they lost to Lunar Brawler. Uh who else? Yeah. Okay. Lunar Brawler
• 71:30 - 72:00 and someone else. I can't even remember. And then they lost to Sim Talk Tricky, which that one's a little more like there's some that's a better team, but like I don't know. I I'm not sure what happened there. there. I mean, they literally just got top six. They looked like a really high floor team. Like I said, they were like, they're always solid. I don't think I've ever even seen Hawker and Chicago go round five in a Swiss. So, I don't know what happened. I'm very actually very sad about that. That's a really Yeah, that's a really off day. I mean, that the reason why it's exaggerated as well, not only Gas
• 72:00 - 72:30 not making it, going one and three, no one loves going one and three, is that Lil Step Bros have made the NA main event. Alpha Keep has made the NA main event. Now Farah, when you look at your rival region, North America, and you see Alpha making the main event, how does this make you feel? I mean, you know, earlier I was talking about how Europe has, you know, less depth than before. I mean, it's still it's still not as open with that. It's
• 72:30 - 73:00 not that's your opening statement. I mean it's it's not as low as low depth for for kept qualifying like yeah it's like I don't know man uh but to be fair like I think yeah no actually I don't know where I'm going with it but yeah it's uh interesting uh good for the esport I think it's going to make a very interesting uh stream. I saw a stat somewhere somebody can probably confirm
• 73:00 - 73:30 in chat if this is true. Does this now make Alphacap the oldest player ever to qualify for an NA regional? Surely. Is this like he's 27 according to Wikipedia? No. Surely someone there's going to be somebody I think. No, I saw this on Twitter. I think it is. Yeah. NA regional. NA. So this is a win for the UNS guys. I honestly I watched it live. I watched it live. He was moving like I and I've watched I've watched how he kept play some games where I was like oh
• 73:30 - 74:00 my god like this guy is this guy his car you know he had some sat moments where I was thinking he needs to take his car in for a service like he needs to take to the mechanic cuz that thing wasn't working but yesterday he was playing some ro they played well like that that game that series they played they actually played well ke was hitting his shots they were moving like he was in flow state I've never seen him so locked in and honestly They deserved it. I don't think it was an aura thing, you know, the the aura curve where it wasn't
• 74:00 - 74:30 a I don't think the other team was playing that bad. I think the K was was just playing well. He was in flow state and the the team was looking good. The coms were crazy as well. They were It was intense in there. Um wait, they reverse swept Swiss. I'm just checking the right now. Swept the Swiss. You can see them. They won two game fights in a row. What a run. That's crazy. Oh my days. Bro's car normally looks like it's as heavy as the sun. Yeah, I've seen that. But yesterday it wasn't. It was He was playing well. Like I don't know.
• 74:30 - 75:00 Gary, did you watch the um the the the Alpha Cap series? Cuz I was saying that he was playing well. Like they like this wasn't a this wasn't a fluke. I did. No, I mean and not the you know, Glaze Alpha Cap here. I think people think he's worse than he is because of the personality. He plays a lot still. Like he's not bad. He's not a bad player at all. and and Gut obviously is actually pretty good. Trell always is make managed to make like quite a few runs. Um, but I do think I do think the team
• 75:00 - 75:30 they beat probably I in my head this is the mindset they they see their round five they're like nice we're playing you know Ke kept team but then you get into the series and they're like not playing bad and you're like oh my god like is my career about to end right now like I'm about to not make the regional and like it's just like worst case scenario because regardless how think you think Ke is good or bad. His chat is
• 75:30 - 76:00 just huge. Like there's a lot of pressure on that for sure. And you're like a serious team and and Keep's rubbing his And they don't forget that chat either. Like if if you lose to Alpha Cap, like they're going to let you know about it whenever and and Ke won't let you forget about it either. Like he's going to be talking about it forever. So it's just like worst case scenario. It's a mental warfare thing. I think it's a good thing. Yeah, 100%. No, but I'm hyped to watch. Like I'm I'm actually glad he made it. Like I think it's awesome. Like I'm It's good for the game. It's amazing.
• 76:00 - 76:30 Yeah. So, I think it's I think it's hilarious. They they beat in round five, so they Yeah, they won a couple game fives um against teams that I'm looking at, I'm thinking, yeah, they could win that. Um but yeah, their round five opponent was just us, Tooko and Matter. I don't know who is Matter a new player. Don, he chang. No, but you see, okay, in this specific case, there is an European player. So someone who's I don't know he he's used to making main event in Europe. Obviously he's come so far to expect to
• 76:30 - 77:00 qualify for any main event and yeah I mean if you lose to Ke I mean if you are in a series against Cape you kind of expect to win. So obviously if the series is a bit uh weird it can get to your head pretty quickly to be honest. I mean they just they look good like yeah Tel I guess it was your enablization as you said in chat cuz he played when he played with Squishing Kofheer it was like watching a it was like take your kid to work day like kept with look like he was just non-existent on the pitch
• 77:00 - 77:30 but in this team he was he was carrying he dropped like 800 points in a game he was the vibes are probably different you know yeah I mean that's high pressure for you know you're playing with playing with with Squishy in an upcoming player. That's a more pressure I think. Kind of for sure. You just chat right now and that's true. Yeah, true, true, true. I mean, Garrett can't call. He's a squishy now. So, they're not calling. It's not my fault. No, their team vibes are just great. Yeah, new team. Team diff, I
• 77:30 - 78:00 guess. Who do they play in the main event? Who's their round one? That's going to be They play ultimates. Ultimates. Ultimates. That's a tough one. Hey, who's who who's in their lower bracket round one then? Is it? Never say never. Never say never. No, I don't want to. I don't want to. I'm trying to maybe jinx ultimates a little bit. That would be hilarious if if they could beat ultimates. Um, it's I mean it it's it's not like ultimates are known for having the greatest mental in the world. Like they can tilt for sure.
• 78:00 - 78:30 They lost to Geng last split. They definitely thought they were going to win that uh in that grand final. So maybe they could get tilted. But are you comparing Alpha to Genji right now? Well, Jenji were like ninth or something in points at the time. Like they were way out of the race and they just won a really I have a question about that. Do you think it's a real question if the if the GK run did not happen, do you think the JV run happens because I think not. I think he just gave them That's a
• 78:30 - 79:00 interesting one. You know, it's possible. It's possible 100%. I think it helped for sure. I think I think little things like that can change everything in Rocket League. It's like mentally you're like, "Well, actually it's doable. It's doable and more than we thought." You know? Uh yeah. The only reason I think it maybe could have happened without the GK run is because we had that famous Reattles reverse did they reverse sweep uh phase is that they did right the reverse sweep
• 79:00 - 79:30 phase before. So yeah, I think that there there's still like a chance with Reattles in the team that they somehow get a reverse sweep in the final or you know come back from two down. Their run was like not that I mean it was it was doable looking at looking at the run they had. Yeah, it's not like they had a GK's run was like so stacked and like super impressive. GK's run was absurd looking at who they played. I'm like how on earth have they swept everybody? But Jenj's run I look at it I'm like okay now this isn't completely out of the realms possibility. Like when we saw the bracket, we're thinking this could
• 79:30 - 80:00 happen, you know. Like up until the final, the final is the only one that didn't look that great for them. Yeah. They beat poab in the semis. Complexity. Oh yeah. Okay. And Complexity don't know how to turn the monitors on in Champ Sunday. So like it's actually fine all the way to the final to be honest. They beat Strictly Business for top six. was weird because they did not look I mean they lost on day one and then they had to run through the whole lows and you know they went to game five game seven against 100% I think and then suddenly they just don't don't drop a game it's
• 80:00 - 80:30 like okay what was I I hate this like hypothetical question but I'm I'm reading the comment that boy said cuz I always hate that's like oh if this team would have made the final do you think they would have won I actually do think if energy made the final they would have won cuz I think the pressure of I think the pressure of like I mean LJ was not at all playing bad but like LJ's going for his first win. It's it's been you know he's wanted that for years. Um I think too they probably were like I think going into a series thinking oh
• 80:30 - 81:00 this is nice like we're playing a team that we're so confident against that can be like a debuff to to to me at least. You don't take him as serious and all of a sudden you're in game seven and you make one mistake and it's over. So, I think I think that's what's the play style then for uh for little step bros to take down ultimates in round one of the group. What's the I think they hope I think they hope and pray. They hope and pray. Hope and pray. Is it Is it just like full pace? You know, if you get dusted, whatever. What kind Are they
• 81:00 - 81:30 going full park the bus? Like what what do you reckon? I I think it's counterattack counterattack bump goal cuz when I was watching Tro and G were like getting really good bumps and then ke was slotting. So if that's actually true. Yeah. The I love the bombs. They should bump as much as possible for sure. They should try and annoy them. Just be rats on the pitch. Full rat style. I reckon aggressive but also passive. Yeah, 100%. That's a If there's a win angle there, it's a counterattack angle. I think I think that's the only way. I've got to get back in that flow. Like the problem is once you start
• 81:30 - 82:00 winning, you're like, wait, we could actually win this. And when you think about that, then you lose. You know what I mean? The moment where you're like, wait, what if we did this? And then you just overthink it. But I think that was just definitely yesterday and quals are in flow state. I mean, I I tried to reverse um give confidence to Alpha Kev. I think going into game five, I was streaming it and I was or into his round five. I said to him in chat like there's no way you make the main event. And I said, should this will this will motivate me? Like it is I'll prove you wrong. It's like I think you know that kind of you should
• 82:00 - 82:30 think of negatively like oh how funny would it be if don't think about how good would it be if we won this. Think about how funny it would be if ultimates lost. That's the That's the way to take yourself out of it and just think about the other team. Take yourself out of it. Think about how funny it would be for the other team to lose and not how good it would be for you to win. And your fight or flight is not even going to activate. You're just watching at that point. It's a long ride. Like they got they got squared off. They got on idiots. There's like so many layers of mental mindset in Rocket League. I love
• 82:30 - 83:00 that. Yeah. Uh if it works, it's genius. Actually, like somebody said, yeah, we do have to talk about Schnitzel House cuz what what's going on with Schnitle House? Why were in Swiss? But honestly, they should have beaten NRG as well. Uh, was it NG? No, they they did, didn't they? Who Who did they Oh, sorry. They did. HostG They They beat [ __ ] Complexity. [ __ ] lost their game five. It was their round one. They almost lost to the boys.
• 83:00 - 83:30 Sorry, that's the one I was thinking of as well. But yeah, Schnitle House, I mean, Lime Blaze was peaking that those guys are they were on one. Who's the full roster on on Schnitle House? Yeah. Panda Panda and Sai from Austria, the CRL player. Yeah, I was playing Gangdom Style while I was watching them in game five against NRG. It was peak. They were I was clipping. They were they were feeling it. Uh I don't know. Farah, as a North America fan, what are your thoughts? When do you see shinitle house
• 83:30 - 84:00 go three bing [Laughter] complexity I I don't know I didn't watch the game so it's not interesting interesting results I think it's the it's the type of process that you can overlook easily and I think that's what people kept doing with v vitality and energy in the first split but like to me once they
• 84:00 - 84:30 start adding up. It's usually a sign of something is uh is weird going on, you know, like those are the series you should not be losing. So, obviously, it's a weird day because I I think this season with the format like teams are maybe not taking Swiss as seriously as the double last year because like you have so much like you have to lose three series uh against some pretty bad teams to to to not qualify. So, like I think some teams think they're pretty safe. uh and when they can actually mess it up
• 84:30 - 85:00 and because of buoles sometimes it doesn't even matter what you do you're going to end up with a random bracket anyway so why care you know and you keep your high seed even if you lose you keep your seed yeah so that's the thing so I don't know what to take away from him but I think like my my opinion is you know the more you lose the more vulnerable you are so it's uh it's I don't know it's not a good sign and that's what I was like that's why I was thinking like energy did not look um as
• 85:00 - 85:30 good as I thought they were uh last season. Like this this first I'm I'm only I'm only talking about the first split. I don't know like from the it from the series they were dropping left and right I'm like uh I think they're not as dominant as they were uh last year. Yeah, there's uh there's look there's a few few upsets going on. I think even the first round I was mentioning before they went to game five and we speak about the aura curve. They definitely
• 85:30 - 86:00 won game five because of the aura curve. The other team was like, "Oh my god, we're going to win this." And then they lost and then they just they started playing like absolute bots. So yeah, that's interesting. Oh, do you know what word of the street is? NRG are trying to revamp into an aggressive team because of course of course excessive criticism online. This is just sexy growth pains. Yeah. This is just puberty. But as they become like their sexier and more aggressive alpha self, you know, not the boring defensive. Just be patient. Yeah.
• 86:00 - 86:30 Okay. Okay. We'll we'll see if that we'll see if that pays off for uh Yeah. So Complexity as well with I mean Schnitz House once they beat [ __ ] why not be Complexity? So Complexity were just running into a team on an absolute heater after that. Wait, did CR go AFK for the last 5 seconds of last game? He did. Did he go up there? Did his controller disconnect? He did. D over his head and he was tilted. He 100%. Have you seen this, Garrett? Wait, no, I have not. I'm pulling this up. I've got
• 86:30 - 87:00 the clips. Wait, can you put it on Discord as well or do we watch the stream? Uh, I could pull it on Discord. Actually, if anyone has a clip in chat before I find it, I can link it. But I think I was I was watching on stream and straight away I was like, "Wait, did he just he stopped moving? There was time left. They're in game five with 5 seconds left down a goal and he just put the controller down and said that's enough. All right, I've had enough. Stuff this. He said he lost you. Can't be bothered anymore.
• 87:00 - 87:30 I've just had an absolute I can link it for you guys. Uh let me up for the Oh. Oh, but then he started playing again. Okay. Yeah, he was like he was definitely annoyed. Yeah. All right. He was annoyed. Always uh I think you you said the word like the the car language. The car language. No. No. I I actually felt like I actually felt like he was
• 87:30 - 88:00 getting frustrated versus us cuz he was like full watching replays and like taking full 60 to ready up and stuff because we were actually like it was a close game and I think they were like why is this cuz they were playing bad too like they were not I don't think they were playing great but I always overanalyze car body language cuz I think it could just maybe I mean it's always one of the things maybe he got tilted maybe he just had to sneeze maybe he's the controller disconnected but the timing Makes it look like he got tilted. For sure. I think 100%
• 88:00 - 88:30 100% this. He's probably going he definitely called his ball cuz he's got 70 boost and Diaz had zero at the time and he just hit it over his head boost and kept going. Yeah. And I I think I'm I'm pretty stunned from my faces. Um the other big thing that we need do need to cover while we've got the reactor is the moment of the worst bump I've ever witnessed. Uh the worst demo that
• 88:30 - 89:00 I've ever witnessed and pure I'd say space station gaming cheating going on. Farah. Um I'd love to get your input on this as well. The window. I mean, this was disgusting. I haven't seen any of this. This is fun. Oh, you haven't seen this either. This is a banger. I can't believe this. This is This is I'm just going to play I think I might just be able to play from the VOD. Yeah. For audio listeners, what game was this? What time? For audio listeners,
• 89:00 - 89:30 this is Space Station Gaming taking on Shopify Rebellion. This is game four. They did win 3-1. His current score is 2-2. So, it's game on. It's on for young and old right now. So if they add to your view party, you analyze this extensively for around two hours after the match. All angles, all POVs. I I slow-mo. Yeah, I uh had to analyze it. Yes. Um yeah, they're two one down. So
• 89:30 - 90:00 this is match point space station. Big moment. A big big moment. All right. All right. Good. I've got audio now. I didn't have audio last time. So this is a big moment. I'm just going to play from my VOD because uh this is actually Is this me watching the replay or the game? Okay, this is Okay, I think I'm just going to play from here and let you guys watch uh the situ Oh, no. I'm watching the I'm watching the the replay. So, this is this is it in the replay right here. Wait, what? I messed up. This is I'll
• 90:00 - 90:30 So, path with full boost scribbles with zero on the sidewall. Path t-bone scribbles. I've seen a robbery with all my videos. Oh, we're talking about just the game. Oh, yeah. The game's cooked, but Okay. And now And now I I get into every camera angle I think I possibly can with this in the VOD. So, I watch it one more from the main. Okay. And then I get the closeup. Gone for a demo. And he gets demoed. And let's bear in mind, he did lose. Did he
• 90:30 - 91:00 lose Supersonic last second? It looks like he was Sonic for a split second. So, we have to assume that his car was Superson Sonic. But your reaction on stream is so good to this. That's funny. Well, the amount of times I hit someone and I get demoed, it's like so often. It's cra It happens. So, it's like so inconsistent. I think I think it I think uh Wait, who's the SG player? I don't know. Okay, Scribbles. I
• 91:00 - 91:30 think Scribbles hits like the server thinks he hit him with the like edge of the car which we don't see like I think it's like I mean I think the server I think for the server is perfectly logical but it looks it's just so funny the idea that Path is clearly going for a demo. Path's clearly going for a demo and Scribbles is just playing the ball and he's demoed Path with no intent. He's just like oh he probably knew he's getting demoed as well. He's like, "Oh, nah, this is Yeah,
• 91:30 - 92:00 he's got zero boost. Oh, I'm alive. And they actually score from this um from this play." Yeah. So, this is the winning goal. No play. Yeah, we all we know that this happens because the server is well the the client that everybody's playing on, including the replay, is trying to show the best like closest visual representation of what's happening server side. And obviously on the server side, the demo was uh you
• 92:00 - 92:30 know, it was normal, but the client didn't do a good job visualizing that. It didn't show the correct position of the cars or the correct angle or something. Uh so yeah, it just looks ridiculous. But that's not to say that it's okay. It's definitely still bad when that can happen because if you're coming in for a demo and you're you're thinking in the back of your head like, "Well, I hope my client has, you know, correctly shown me where all the cars are and you don't just get demoed by
• 92:30 - 93:00 thin air because it's it's not great if you just get demoed by nothing visually. So, it's not a matter of knowing why this happens. We all know this happens because the server is registering a demo which doesn't correctly get shown." Yeah. Still still very frustrating, I'm sure, for the players. Yep, that was that was a tough one to watch. So, that was Shopify run. They lost that one 3-1 and then got the win over POAB. Went to game five and that really scary as well. Um I just I just linked a clip from that that I haven't seen where this FiveUp saved the g the
• 93:00 - 93:30 game five overtime shot that uh like I guess POA had the win and then FiveUp was chasing a bump. He should pull it and he saved it. He saved it. Saved it. Wait, don't you think the H. It's hard to see with the quality. It's hard to tell if he like maybe the blue guy had it. No, I think he can touch it. Might have it into the post. Yeah. Yeah. Hard to tell. It is hard to tell. When I pause it, it looks far. I don't know. But it still it still is like it still
• 93:30 - 94:00 sucks. But he's just trying to be a good teammate. I get the bump and the ball just come straight towards him. Yeah. the pitch. There it goes. Um, and then the only other RLCS news we have this weekend is in well outside of NA and EU is Sam uh lost was lagging in the uh grand final for South America. So, Team Secret of 141, but it's a bit of an asterisk because Lost was supposedly lagging. Uh, so we'll see uh what that does to the split. I mean, well, what it
• 94:00 - 94:30 does to the split is it makes it almost impossible for anyone else to qualify outside of Fury and Team Secret. Team Secret are now miles ahead in points. So, looks like we're going to get Team Secret at both Rally and Worlds. If they can just have decent events, um, someone else is going to need to win or, you know, make both grand finals ahead of them. That's going to be tough for anyone else to to get it. And other exciting news is that a full EU team of uh uh well, EU imports lost in APAC. Uh,
• 94:30 - 95:00 so not Yeah. Though Ocelon last split they played with Maxu, they benched him and they brought in Techos. So they're a full EU team now. 100% cringe. And they lost to LG game seven. So everybody everybody liked that. Everybody's praying on their downfall. Nobody wants to see them at any majors. Uh Luminosity, the lesser of two with one Luminosity, they have 100% more Apex players. So Sphinx, everybody wants to
• 95:00 - 95:30 see Sphinx playing. You know that that's But but like and and and Luminosity has a like I guess cool like story line with the major like they they went three two and three right which is I mean yeah rivalry with thanks guys. Anyone else want to say it? Yeah it was tough. It was tough to watch. Well done to Luminosity. That's actually Can I talk about that? When did Catalism learn how to flip reset? Because all of a sudden he was absolutely peing like that. He was on
• 95:30 - 96:00 one in Birmingham. I couldn't believe it. But anyway, sorry. I mean that's that that's as I said like those were the players that were making Europe like deep and hard to play because like to make playoffs you usually had to beat those guys or to make you know just the top eight or top six and those guys can actually if not if you're not having a good day you will lose and they will they they will be able to make difference but no those players they have the capacity to just
• 96:00 - 96:30 like obviously qualify in other regions So why I mean I wouldn't say why shouldn't they but it makes sense on a very individual and selfish point of view that if you stay in Europe you're not going to go anywhere like in the game like the the EOS the current ecosystem is as it is and uh yeah if you're not contending for major you're not getting a consistent income I guess so yeah you're not getting an or you're
• 96:30 - 97:00 not getting anything so it's yeah why not try and qualify elsewhere So to the people saying it's the same though like for LG. I do blame the players. I do. I I don't blame I don't blame Really. You blame the players. I blame I blame I I well I blame both. I think it's okay to blame both. I think we're giving the players far too much leeway by saying don't blame the players at all. I think there is an element of you know morality here. Like I think you have to blame the like the players who do the full three out of three. I agree. Like I think I
• 97:00 - 97:30 think this is just a rule that should be in place and they would not do it. It's as simple as that. But I feel like the players they just do like the thing is to be a player at this level you pretty much has to sacrifice your whole life for the game. And right now the game is not giving it back. Like it's like you're not getting like the the find an orb. The golden days of Rocket League where you had an orb because of being top 16 are gone. So if and I'm not saying obviously like a game can only
• 97:30 - 98:00 support that many players. So maybe you know the life it's not the right life path for them if they're not able to be good enough to make an income out of it. But I guess that's their dream and uh they kind of have to pay their I mean to leave and to you know pay the bills and and pay the rent and at some point you got to do what you got to do and if you got move continent to to just be able to contend for it or to actually get a
• 98:00 - 98:30 paycheck I can't blame the players. It it's frustrating especially for the minor regions but to me it's just an Epic Games issue like why open for new regions specifically talking about SSA if you allow you know like uh new imports to come in because like obviously if the idea was to get the 60 best teams at the world championship or at the major like you would not have a system
• 98:30 - 99:00 where you have like multiple regions and very specific speific spots per region. So once you have that, why not just region lock in? It's I don't know to me it does the the the whole ecosystem right on that specific part doesn't make any sense. And it's I think especially for the like minor region especially like Apac and SSA it's very very frustrating like it's uh it's unfair but I don't blame the players because they have to I mean the
• 99:00 - 99:30 only thing they can do I mean they probably sacrificed their whole you know like studies their whole you know career they all they did was put time in the game so they might as well just try and make a make money out of it and that's the only way they on because they're not good enough in Europe. So, uh that's the truth of it pretty much, I guess. But we all I mean we everybody agrees of course that the there should be, you know, some kind of 2/3 or at least one/3 rule that you need to play with a local player or else what's even the point of these
• 99:30 - 100:00 regions Yeah. existing. It's supposed to encourage players from those regions to play and nobody's really getting inspired to play ro by watching Europeans win in SSA or AP pack or somewhere else. It doesn't do anything for the locals. The illusion of a global esport by saying like we have a region in every you know we have a spot for every region whilst not Yeah. region. Yeah. Right. No, it's not true because it's not region locked. So you have like EU 36 in SSA. you have EU 24
• 100:00 - 100:30 in in in EPAC and and if if your goal is to just have the best teams just like run global qualifiers and you're just never going to have any SSA teams or any AP pack teams because so I yeah I'm with you on that for sure. I think they need need to do something. I do want to like challenge the can't blame the players totally because although I think most of the blame goes to the to because they could fix it far more easily. I still think
• 100:30 - 101:00 the players have to have some kind of there has to be some kind of responsibility because if by I mean I'm not trying to say they're not breaking any laws but if if somebody's like uh you know obeying the law like to the letter but still you know not really doing what they should do in a situation like we're quite happy as humans to you know blame them for it and just say yeah you know yeah that's I understand where you're coming from but it shouldn't be allowed therefore judge the gentleman's agree the region.
• 101:00 - 101:30 I just like think it, you know, it's I'm not disputing their uh that they're allowed to do it. I think they're obviously allowed to do it by the rules, but I think that I think less of them for it because they're abusing a dumb rule. And I think that I, you know, I I do think less of somebody for that. It's an it's taking the easy route instead of trying to, you know, compete. It's competition. You know, why are you trying to avoid competition to this degree? It's a competition. You're supposed to compete punching down. I agreed until this year where you can
• 101:30 - 102:00 literally be a top six team and not get an org. I ag I thought it was I I blame the players when people were just only doing for the major spot. Now it feels like they're doing it because they want to have a career and now like you can't have a career staying in a major region unless you're top four making the land. Like there's no rules. But you could go. I'm not saying don't go. I'm saying go and at least play with a local like if you could at least and they did to be fair like throwing us they played with Maxu. They lost one like uh split and they're like, "All right, now stuff this. Let's just go full full EU." Then
• 102:00 - 102:30 they just gave up. It's like the way I see it is they just gave up. They said, "Okay, we suck. Let's just go get another like EU player." And what do you know? They still suck. So, I mean, if you suck that bad, maybe it's time to look for a different career. Like, what are we doing over there? Like, we're going to like bring in an even better EU player. Like, this is just ridiculous. Where's the cycle? Where does this take us? OB obviously obviously like the the the the harsh reality is usually if you go that end and you have to go to another to another region to just farm the major spot it's probably time to you
• 102:30 - 103:00 know just you know think for another career path I'll be honest but I can't I can't blame them with the current state I get I get your point I get your point getting the one player is is not that hard I do I do get it I just think the scene's in such a rough state that I'm I feel like I'm a little more lenient now. Um I was you know the the SSA situation with that one team was different when they literally threw like you know that's that's very predatory. You know
• 103:00 - 103:30 at least these guys are moving across the world against rules to be fair. That's the difference. They literally broke the rules not allowed to say it's easy to hate on them at the very least like these guys are are picking up their entire life to do it. But I do I agree with you. I root for Luminosity way harder cuz they do have the the um team qualifies for a land. There's absolutely no way you guys can tell me that you guys would be like, "Hey, congrats." You know? No, no. I'm never going to be on that side. I'm just saying it's a it's a survival thing, you
• 103:30 - 104:00 know? It's like this is like some Hunger Game [ __ ] though, right? Because if you imagine like NA and Europe, uh like they've been they're eating good like for the last as you see car like previously from this season. Like they're eating good. Like how good's this? like we're getting spots. I'm at I'm the 16th best team in North America. I'm getting paid a really good salary. Like this is sick. I don't even have to qual. But we're chilling. And all of a sudden it dries up. And then you've got these other smaller pools, these smaller little little ecosystems. You're like, "Well, actually, I'm going to go hop
• 104:00 - 104:30 over here and eat some of this." And then the guys over there like, "Hang on, we don't have much over here either." It's like, "Yeah, but yeah, but I'm starving over there. I was eating good before, but now I'm eating some of yours." And it's like well you know they still you know you're taking careers from those people like now the NA five to you know or six to 10 don't have careers but it doesn't mean you can take what little they had in other regions just because now you don't have you know what I mean? Yeah. I think Epic should be protecting those those regions like 100%. The the funny thing is that the the
• 104:30 - 105:00 current format is I mean over the past two years uh specifically has been you know branded as more open than ever but if you think of it it's like it's way harder to make a living out of it than before. And we talked about at the beginning of the show about, you know, league play. You know, at least in league play, you have 10 teams who can live off of it or like 10 teams. Nowadays, there isn't Okay, sure. Everyone's playing, but no one's a thousand, thousand teams can play, but
• 105:00 - 105:30 no one can actually like the cake it looks nice, but it's many slice. I I don't understand that when I say that. They're like, "Oh, but competitive integrity." And I just think there won't be a scene if we if if you don't improve things for for entertain like there has to be a level of entertainment uh catering as well. Like you can't just I don't know. You can't just make it the wild west and expect there to be a scene like eventually the like the half the players
• 105:30 - 106:00 now are just hopping on and and playing the tournaments. They're not professional. What's the argument then if you're Epic and Epic go well look how many signups we're getting though and we like look how many people are playing the game. Like what's what's the There is no argument. We're screwed. Yeah, we're screwed if that's what they care about. Like we're it's just it's it's game buying autumns like win we're gonna we're gonna lose the orgs. We're going to lose the starification of the game. So you're not going to have the the the next Zen or the next Vera is just not going to be there. Like there's
• 106:00 - 106:30 not going to be a player that is a star. Like there is not going to be any stars. There's just going to be players playing big content creators. That's it. Yeah. which is another way of seeing it, but I don't like it because to me it's like the competition is dying down, you know, like the as I said like in Europe the the the the depth has been reduced lowered and uh I don't know if you like competition I guess you want the matches to be more competitive now it's I mean
• 106:30 - 107:00 everyone complain about the 44 like the 44 on on Saturday so I to me it's just a a byproduct of the of the current ecosystem them. It just it leads to that. It leads to us only having six teams seriously contending for the major whereas before it was more uh and it should be more realistically speaking not to it's a this a really interesting discussion but to speak to the want to like pivot to that 4040 EU oh it's like
• 107:00 - 107:30 four 40's EU Saturday. I might be biased because I was like actually like working the show but I thought it was actually a pretty good day. I've casted some terrible days of Rocket League over the years. Like, I've casted this game for a long time. There's been so many days where I'm like, "Wow, that was that was a bad day of Rocket League. No story lines. No upsets, no good no close series." You'd rather a quick [ __ ] series. Good day. Like the the GKKC series was a good series, a good 40. Like, uh, yeah, Johnny's happy. He didn't have to work long. Hey, I I won't
• 107:30 - 108:00 lie. It's nice when you just have a day that's smooth. No tech problems. You're just done and dusted. That's obviously nice. But I the gameplay was actually like the first two series were uh were pretty pretty one-sided, pretty boring, but the second two were actually good. Like Vitality, Gentle Mate. So I was like, I was I was enjoying that series. GK KC, I enjoyed that one as well. I think people like look at a 40 and they just think all four rows are the same, but it's not. Yeah, but I think okay I I think that's because you see it from a very you know expert uh point of view where you can recognize plays but I
• 108:00 - 108:30 think a lot of people who watch the game they do they will not recognize as many plays but they want a tight series. They they want to feel excited you know they want to feel the undecisiveness of the series. They want to feel the the nerves. It's I mean that's why a four funnel is boring. Sorry. Yeah, I think it's pented up frustration from like it's like, oh, we're seeing the same teams over and over, but it's because we're running a full bracket every two weeks to me. Like if it was more drawn out, we wouldn't you would you wouldn't
• 108:30 - 109:00 think that way because you wouldn't see the same matchups so often, I think. But it's like we've been doing this for four years now where it feels like no matter what happens, it ends up being the same teams. It's cuz there'll always be, you know, a top four or top two, but it's like I think they're oversaturating the games. So like it seems it feels boring. I I'm bored and I love the game. I'm bored of watching it. Dignitas Fast Forward is a pretty like dry series. I I'll say that much. And then NIP vers Synergy. I just remember that was a that series was so fun. We had Itachi and the
• 109:00 - 109:30 Road Hog. I absolutely loved every second of that, not going to lie. And then honestly, Vitality, Gentle Mates, and GKK I thought were like entertaining series, but that's just me. Close the game like Well, actually NIP slapped Synergy. That wasn't close, but it was a fun series. Vitality Mates and GKKC were quite close games up until the last game of you guys foring them. People aren't really I think series score they're like boring. Yeah. Okay guys, you were talking about the the top four and like I'm coming back on this
• 109:30 - 110:00 but like to me like the current ecosystem is just going to even you know year after year it's going to be the gap is going to be even bigger year after year because the those top four teams can actually afford to you know put all of their time into the game, all of their resources into the game. They're the only professional teams playing. Yeah. So and all of the others are like I kind of have to do something else with my life and I'm going to just Yeah. try and just compete as well but just to get the you know remains of the of the cash
• 110:00 - 110:30 prize but I'm not taking it as seriously anymore and so many players and I'm hearing a lot of them like I'm not spoiling anything but yeah like I think a lot of players are going to retire after after Leon like generally like some of the big players as well like some of them just yeah I they don't want to be in an ecosystem that just is not looking good for the future for their future, for their own sake, you know? Yeah. People People keep asking me, it's like what is with the age thing? Like why are 14, 15 year olds so much better
• 110:30 - 111:00 and I'm just saying like cuz they don't need to make money. They can play for 8,000 hours before they make a single dollar. Whereas like if you're if you're 20 21 and you're six best in NA and you can't get a single pay, you can't even get $1,000 a month from an org. You can't even get like bare minimum. Like why? Like what are you doing? Like you can't sustainable. the cash price online have like been reduced by two or three. It's it's cut in like a thousand pieces
• 111:00 - 111:30 because obviously the top 124 needs to be paid for some reason. Like everyone needs to get their $100 uh cash money. Um, so yeah, it's cut and like I think if you're a top six team in terms of like cash prize at the end of the year, you get what 5K maybe for the for a whole year of like competing at a very high level like being top six in a in a major region is extremely hard. You have to scream every day, you have to practice every day. It's it's not easy. It's tough mentally as well. Like yeah,
• 111:30 - 112:00 either you love it, either you quit it. And I think a lot of people are starting to realize, okay, it's time to quit it. But so then so then you're one of those players and then you get an opportunity to move and you'll make more prize money and actually get a paycheck and you're like I'm sure they feel a little guilty about it but like how do you say no at that point and you will experience and you will experience majors which is something I think you can all agree is an amazing thing to see to to play and not a lot of players will experience that you know to just play on stage in front of a crowd and stuff like that.
• 112:00 - 112:30 You can't say no. It's like it's a one-time experience just Yeah. I'm not saying obviously you got to do it, but it's as I said, it's hard to say. Yeah, there's a lot of problems that I think Yeah, I think we could probably run a run a whole EP on on this. Our episode. Yeah, our our what do you call it? Episode the uh format. Shark Tank. Yeah, our Shark Tank bon. Yeah, I like that. We should include it. Not just format, but yeah, just like just like Rocket League esports Shark Tank. Yeah, I like
• 112:30 - 113:00 that. We'll we'll run that. Um, just to round off the show though, we have actually some really good questions from the patronons coming in here. Uh, patreon.com/chcast by the way if you want to get involved 9192 bonus episode, something like that. Uh, make sure you check it out. And we I want to kick it off uh with I'm interested in this one from Robo Null for you Farah. There's a lot of coaching sort of questions here. First one is how do you balance the team
• 113:00 - 113:30 in terms of playing loose and relaxed verse being super technical? I think especially in today's Rocket League it's so quick and Rocket League such an instinctual game. How do you kind of like what's the balance like with with the guys of Yeah. like feeling comfortable but wanting to play how you want them to play? [Music] Um can you can you repeat the question? I'm trying to are you saying like what's how do you balance like playing loose and relaxed versus um with being super technical or playing structured uh in
• 113:30 - 114:00 the team? I guess so it's about I guess it's about discipline. So it's like I think so I think some players need it more than others where like you they actually need need to have a plan in mind. Uh and and and it helps with the with dealing with the pressure as well when you when you kind of know you've prepped for it. So you kind of feel like you have more control over the situation and some other players that do not want to think too much. Uh my best example is Radin back in the days. I was always
• 114:00 - 114:30 telling him you're the best when you just stop thinking. So stop thinking and uh and it works because like naturally what he was doing is better than when he's trying to overthink it. So it's always a hard balance to find and it's a lot of work with each player individually. It's like okay how do I talk to this player to be because at the end of the day the way I see it is it doesn't matter the path we take all that matters is you know what's going to happen on the field it's like okay if I
• 114:30 - 115:00 need to do this for him to play the way I want him to play then so be it if I need to do another specific thing I will do this but uh yeah and for some it's easier than some some others obviously like I think I think people see it as see coaching as a very you know um you just say something and he's going to execute it. That's not how it works. Like it's it's it's so much harder and and sometimes you know like you as we said we talked about this earlier with
• 115:00 - 115:30 the semantics and and and and energy. It's like sometimes you going to say something and he's not going to exactly understand what you mean or exactly execute as well as you as you mean. And I don't know the game is very deep. So, it's always a balance thing that you have to find with each player. You you and yeah, you try and try and repeat pretty much all the time. Okay, we got another one here for you from Kronos in the Discord. He said, "If Vitality swapped out a player for
• 115:30 - 116:00 Eugen, I guess this is just for the panel. If Vitality swapped out a player for Eugen, would they be closer to you, Vera, more firepower?" What do you think about Eugene and Vitality? Is that It's interesting because Eugene is very I think it's like it's not as big of a you know um an obvious like rookie of the year than Dio or Zen were right like those were you know the star players and you could see it Eugene is slightly different I feel like at least today he
• 116:00 - 116:30 hasn't shown as much potential as those two but he still shown a lot of potential so it's hard to say how big of a difference it would make in vital 80 but obviously in terms of like gameplay and firepower it would make a difference and maybe just playing with like such experienced players would actually you know uh elevate his game play a lot. Um I could that probably high higher peak and lower floor is the way I would see it.
• 116:30 - 117:00 That makes sense. Um do that. Yeah. This question is about uh wait, should I do I I want to do the I want to do the second one more. I'm more interested in that. Farah is goated AF. Does he think he could bring a top 16/top eight bubble team to the major? And what team would he choose if so? Top 16 or top eight bubble team. You said non- major team. Would you lead them to the major? I did. There's no region
• 117:00 - 117:30 involved either. Funny thing is I did that with Vital 80. When I joined Vital 80 was a top 16 teams. People forget about it. Like when I joined Vital 80, Vital 80 was top 16 with Kop, Alpha and and Feric and uh we had to bring Radoin and then thein and none of them had made anything close than making the major. And Alfa, it's been a long time since he made anything relevant. Um and we made the major and we actually came close to reaching a a
• 117:30 - 118:00 semi-finals nowadays at no as I said because the depth has left the region. So uh I do not see you know a group of players that I in in the top eight to 16 range that I would be able to bring to a major but maybe what about new BDS the N not not not in one split. Can I Can I interest you in Rusty's on team BSK? Rusty's. Oh, yeah. Wait, wait. I got I got stuff. Yeah. So, it's Rusty's plays
• 118:00 - 118:30 with mozzarella, right? And Pisky. Yeah. Yeah. Whiskey needs to he needs to rebrand back to whiskey drink. Surely they won't notice. Whiskey drinks. Um I think I think I would help them, but I like reaching the major in Europe is tough. How about not this split? Like this season, forget about it. But like what about next season a major? like in one year. Uh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We could we I know it's hard like I would I would
• 118:30 - 119:00 be confident in you know like making waves you know like making deep runs maybe maybe a top four with some of them depending on the bracket and stuff but consistently and actually you know aiming for a major with those types of players. It's a bit it's a bit of fast right now. like they they're all very unexperienced and they do not show the same type of like potential and uh you know back in the days like we had like the as I said like the the the teams were more close in terms of level so it was you know all I would say it was easy
• 119:00 - 119:30 easy but like if we bring a little bit of structure and you know some quick tips to like teams that do not work at all or like do not know anything better than just playing the game sometimes it elevates them a lot and back then it It was working quite well, but I think nowadays like we need like a bit more talent. That's how much could you squeeze out of Garrett, Atomic, and Squishy if you coach them out of team gas? What is that roster? So random.
• 119:30 - 120:00 Sorry. Sorry, AJ. Sorry, I said atomic. Sorry, Gas. AJ, sorry. The current the current gas lineup, how how much actually could you uh actually Okay, I'm I'm going to reverse the question. Garrett, what do you think of like because we come from a very old time where coaches weren't a thing and I think so I guess my answer will depend on that but like what do you think about coaches like what's yeah in general
• 120:00 - 120:30 I think coaching is like a super teamtote team thing like I feel like some teams almost win or lose by their coach but I think that's more rare and I think some it it depends on the players Like I I think there's certain players that need more guidance and and some players that they just need like structure to trying every day. And like I think Greg, for example, I I feel like his biggest attribute, which I've never been coached by him, so I don't know. But his biggest thing is that I feel like there's like a culture around the team. Like the team
• 120:30 - 121:00 feels like a team at all times, if that makes sense. Whereas some teams just they're just on a team together and they show up and play and they could benefit from that extra like clock it out. Yeah. they're clocking in. Um, but it feel it feels like every single team needs a different type of coach and I think that's probably the hardest thing about coaching is not over coaching cuz it's like you can only say so much. I think at certain points, you know, you can only turn something around mid-series so well, but like if you have the right
• 121:00 - 121:30 players who respond well to that, then it then it helps. But I think it's it could be very easy to over to over coach a team. And how how have your like point of view changed throughout the years? Uh because like me personally like I know when I started like I don't I don't even think coaching was it was I would say what it was never a thing but like I would probably have seen it as like I don't need it you know uh like 10 years ago. I'm talking like seven seven six
• 121:30 - 122:00 years ago. How has your like opinion changed over the years? I think it's important now because I I think back then it it really felt like the game nowadays feels so more it honestly feels more important to be on the same page as a team whereas back then it's like you had a one good player you could win the series you know like you're just better now it's like you've got to be you've got to have a system I think you got to stick to it and and yeah because everyone is closer mechanically so it to make a difference
• 122:00 - 122:30 right it feels like the the offball stuff is obviously more important than ever. Like the intangibles like everyone has to be able to do everything. And I think it's important someone is telling you that you're not doing that. You know what I mean? Like Yeah. Back in the day Justin would show up and just beat CJ day one dream hack, you know? Now nowadays it's like, you know, everyone's got to be on the same page. I mean that that would still happen today. Yeah. No, I will I will I will answer the question. I think I think I could make you qualify to every event.
• 122:30 - 123:00 That's fair. Yeah. Like I think because I think I think the I think the main issues I would have with you guys is uh obviously I have an easier time teaching a player individually ex like mechanically insane but like branded than the other way around. And your team is full of Are you calling mechanically brain but
• 123:00 - 123:30 insane in the brain? Like no talking about squishing. No, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about like your team in general feels like it's like a group of like very experienced players who know how to play the game, but you guys are getting out classed by like newer players individually. So I think what you would struggle with is getting us to demo to be honest. That would be Yeah. to to to do that stuff. But no, that's fair
• 123:30 - 124:00 cuz when we it's like we don't scrim obviously so it's very random what we Yeah. So like we've gotten two top 12elves and two one 13s so it's like you you don't know what to expect from us at all. Yeah. But I mean I mean obviously if I come in I would make you scream a bit more. So at least we could get some stuff in. And I think just just doing that would be enough to to make you guys qualify for every event. But yeah, I would be pretty confident in in uh in in just qualifying you guys, but then how
• 124:00 - 124:30 much we could I think it's tough. It is hard. Um I agree. Adding to that then uh this is a this is a pretty good one from Desha. Uh with your experience now as a coach and a player, Farah, what do you think uh most players or coaches still misunderstand about building a championship caliber roster? What does Farah with all his experience now look for? You know, is it do you think some players or or people still don't understand what it what you need,
• 124:30 - 125:00 you know, to build a major or championship winning team? It's very hard to Oh, I I'm not sure I would be able to answer that question because even me sometimes I do not Wait, what you say? What you say? Is it confidential information? No, not even that. Like I'm not even sure I would be able to answer that question like even just for myself because like first I I'm not sure how how different I'm working from all the other teams. Obviously I I I know for a fact that it's very different because like I've coach
• 125:00 - 125:30 players who had other coaches who worked through different teams. So um so and I always ask them how it was and you know what we can extract from it. Uh just to you know maybe they're doing something that I've never thought of. Um what do I don't know what can we repeat the question maybe I will have something come up in uh the question is what do you think most players or coaches still misunderstand about building a championship roster?
• 125:30 - 126:00 I don't know. Um I I like nothing comes to mind. Do you think people focus too much on like individual mech or focus too much on this this definitely like um I think I think the debate the the debate nowadays is very maybe it's a culture cultural thing but I do not like like for example like uh right now the the the like there is this like those big rivalries you
• 126:00 - 126:30 know like Zen against Dupo saying how Dr is the best in the world and how um how how different BDS I mean new vitality is without him and with then in place and you know like they're all comparing you know, players very individually and I'm not thinking that way and I I'm definitely not seeing the same stuff that people see. So like it's funny because like people like call Doly like extremely smart on
• 126:30 - 127:00 the field and you know like the best player in the world by far and I'm like he's so good at so many things but like he's also the player that I have have to you know keep in line the most in terms of gameplay and how disciplined I want him to be which is sometimes a strength because like sometimes he's unpredictable but like it does feel like sometimes he's making mistakes that his teammates will never never make and uh and he's able to like right now he's being seen as the best player in the world and I think he is but also because his teammates around him are making him
• 127:00 - 127:30 shine and and yeah I think it's mostly seeing the game through teamwork and how everyone can elevate each other instead of individual uh skill mostly and I say that with three players who can obviously carry a team like obviously it's very easy to say that when all of those players are able to carry a team and they all willing to work together uh to achieve higher goals and stuff but still like
• 127:30 - 128:00 I I think I think the conversation is a bit too individually focused and not um not enough like team and and I think it's it's it it come um how to say it like I think it it's it's a point that is coming down from sports and especially like American sports and I've actually I'm reading a book from the um from Phil Jackson uh recently And he's saying like nowadays the NBA is very very very egoistical with how you
• 128:00 - 128:30 know like the players are being portrayed they're playing on the field you know like the whole game play is so individual whereas back in the days it was just about having a team you know and you know like because and it's the same in soccer like recently there is a big thing with how Mbappe has left PSG and PSG might be closer than ever to win the Champions League while Mbappe has joined Real Madrid and Real Madrid is
• 128:30 - 129:00 out of the Champions League and you know how one individual can be a star player and very self-centered and how he can actually just not maybe be the most valuable piece to make a a winning team you know um and it does feel like sports I mean just like just because like conversation in general will focus more on individual than team. Um, h it does feel like esports take away that pass as well. Like we focus more on individual story lines instead
• 129:00 - 129:30 of like team story lines and and players buy into that as well. It's like they want to be the best player. They don't want to be in the best team. And me in my in my when I was playing I I always thought as myself I want to be the worst player on my team because if I'm the worst player on my team that means my like my two teammates must be really really good because I saw myself as really good. So, I was like, "Dude, I want to be the worst player, so my team is insane, you know." Mhm. I've always had that philosophy. I feel like it might have held me back. I mean, I
• 129:30 - 130:00 didn't really do anything uh better. So, I might only Maybe I took that a bit too far. It's That's really interesting. I mean, the uh yeah, the individualistic uh I've noticed it a lot more. I talked about this a lot on my stream actually that there seems to be more of a culture around the star player in American sports at least that I'm aware of compared to the European teams in the same sports because European teams and other teams in the world do play American sports. I mean, basketball's the big one, and there seems to be an
• 130:00 - 130:30 identity difference there between the the yeah, the way that I mean, it's not all media driven, which I guess we're to blame for as casters and uh podcasters in in Rocket League, but Rocket League really has a out of all the games and out of all the competitions is probably the one with the least identity when it comes to play style because everybody's playing, right, and everybody's playing everybody's play like very similarly. So, it's hard to
• 130:30 - 131:00 draw comparisons, which is I think why people are so it might seem forced sometimes. Yeah. But in other games, individual differences are even like more easy to spot on. Like in League of Legends, like your mid lane, if your mid laner is winning, he's winning against his own. Yeah. Yeah. Like you can actually see the difference he's making. Yeah. By himself. Same with like CS with the the amount of kills someone is getting in Rocket League. It's so That's why it might worse. Yeah. cuz it's not as obvious. So, we really have
• 131:00 - 131:30 to I mean sometimes we're really looking for a narrative as Cassie like all right what is going on here? This is like you know this is this is a bit of a tough situation to draw up a story line and then you know looking at I mean when a situation like Drowi presents itself where it's like okay world championship winning roster they've gone their separate ways and now one guy is still winning obviously he deserves to be called the best player in the world that's just an automatic situation. Yeah. And and he like in my eyes and the the more I see him play the more I'm like like I can see flaws but I'm like
• 131:30 - 132:00 even with his flaws he's still like so valuable and he's still able to evate our game play so much. I'm like dude does that mean he can even be better and yes and I'm like okay it's it's crazy you know so it's good. It's a good problem to it's not it's not the problem. It's a it's a good player to have on your team. But yeah, it's still like the way people have talked about it and even with with some some other teams I said like the way people talk about I don't know Z about new about I mean it goes for every player. I'm like it's
• 132:00 - 132:30 always contextual and same for Gentleman. I think the best example in this gentleman is how people have been talking about SEO, Eugene, even Rado uh with how they looked together. Individually, they're better than that. Like they can all play better than that, but in their context, it just didn't work out. So, and same like they could be the best player in the world on another team maybe. Agreed. Yeah, it's it's all about like I mean Rocket League is very mental. Rocket League's very
• 132:30 - 133:00 uh very like right team, right time because some teams will stick together for ages and then you know it works at some point, sometimes it doesn't, but other teams they just like I mean actually you said this in your I think it was in your interview after winning the last event like the closest you are to winning is when you just won. Didn't you say that? Yeah, I think I actually in your ear while Yeah. You were like great point he's making that. Yeah. Yeah. I was telling CJ like, "Oh, did he I was like telling CJ, "Oh, did you hear that? That's an Well, no, no, you said I
• 133:00 - 133:30 think you said you said wise words from Farah." And I'm like, "Okay, thank you." We're having the most bot conversation in the green room I've ever heard. Wise words from Farah. I swear we don't talk. That's just Hey, that's just how we talk behind the scenes, you know? We're very, very serious. What an AI conversation. But but I I stand by it and I think I mean and I think it's hard to see in the
• 133:30 - 134:00 moment and I mean Garrett tell tell me everything about it like when you're in it so like when you're winning a lot you're like surely you know it's like we we can still win we can still win we can still but it's after when you stop winning you're like bro maybe if I push myself a little bit harder I could have gone on to win you know one more or two more or three more and maybe there things that would would have changed drastically and it's just like we maybe sometimes let things go because we think
• 134:00 - 134:30 it's just going to keep on forever and 100%. I think well and honestly I I I forgot to ask you this question uh because I was thinking about the top eight last year at the major and then not qualifing for the regional after. I I do feel like sometimes like one moment can because to me competing is very confidence based like obviously talent can carry but confidence is important and I think a really bad moment can if you let it you know fester in your mind it can lead to the end and I think
• 134:30 - 135:00 that's what happened with us tr truthfully like I think it was one really really bad event which was LA and all the drama around it and all that stuff that led to like just a bad mental for the rest of that team's you know life or whatever but um yeah when And and when people ask about winning worlds too, that's what I say. It's like to me I I think winning sometimes it feels a little circumstantial. Like sometimes things just line up and you don't know what you did exactly to to make that happen. But and that's what I say with First Killer. It's like he
• 135:00 - 135:30 could have had so many wins. It's not anything he's really done wrong. I don't think like sometimes it just doesn't happen. Like it's you need you need luck. Uh, I would say you need to win like sometimes you don't, but usually you do. Like you do need that that one overtime goal that's going to, you know, put you in a very comfortable spot in a series to be able to not ask you any question in your head and not go to that game five that you were going to lose in a weird way because of a weird pinch. It's like you need to be lucky and you like you cannot win an event without
• 135:30 - 136:00 being lucky usually. Yeah. There's this moment when we won Worlds right before we scored where Scrub went to shoot and I got so I just jumped off the wall and I got lucky and it you can't really tell on the broadcast that I saved it, but like that was going in and it was luck. Like I didn't make a save. Like that moment could have changed everything. And and there's just so many little moments like that that I think are that's why I say we uh I don't know who brought it up. If uh GK didn't make the run, I could see Ji not making the run.
• 136:00 - 136:30 Like there's so many things that go into winning and sometimes you're not controlling any you're not controlling any of them. It's like you're not in control and you just things just have to go your way. Like my career would not exist and I would not be here today if like in season 3 I did not qualify and it just came down to one goal and I know I would have called it quits and I would have gone to uh doing uh software development afterwards. Like I I I planned it but then I qualified and then I qualified again and then I qualified again. It's just like butterfly effect.
• 136:30 - 137:00 But it goes very it goes very deep into pretty much every tournament. It's like I think you don't you don't want to too much. It gets you I feel like you go crazy if be like oh my god imagine if this didn't happen and then if this didn't happen it's Yeah. Yeah it is. I mean it's it's competition. It's like you got to do you know as much as as best as you can with what you can control and sometimes it works out. Sometimes it works. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. So it's interesting. That's why I'm like, "Oh, do you think when people
• 137:00 - 137:30 ask, uh, will energy win worlds?" I don't know. Like, so many people ask questions like that. Like, you don't know. It's it's that's the point of the tournament. You you you see if they can do it, you know? Yeah. And that's why that's why sports is beautiful. It's just do not know. Even if if if a team keeps winning and winning and winning again, it's bound to stop, you know, like every empire has an end. So, but you guys did all agree that you need luck to win. Therefore, you all now are allowed, all of you listening, to say that the other team got lucky. If they
• 137:30 - 138:00 beat your favorite team, you can just say, "Nah, they just got lucky cuz uh you had to win." So, they had to have been lucky. [Laughter] No, I would say we did. We did not need a lot of luck in Birmingham. But we absolutely sh on everyone in Birmingham Sunday. could have been things could have been different if we lose against wild card and it just came down to one goal, you know, like Hey, that's a good team
• 138:00 - 138:30 though. That's a good team and that's a great place to wrap the episode as well with OC being back on top. Farah, thank you very much for coming in. It has been an absolute pleasure. Every time you come on, I feel like there are there are longest episodes but also our best episodes and people absolutely love being here. So, thank you. I love I love I love talking, man. Yeah. Thank you. And and also because like it's it's I don't know. It's I don't have a lot of opportunities to do this and it's like most of the time it's with people who ask very surface level question and with
• 138:30 - 139:00 this specific podcast or you know like even first touch you know we're able to you know really get into the deep stuff and I like it. So uh yeah lovely thank you thank you for the invite again. I feel like we get to we get to scratch your brain you know in the right places when you come on. So yeah it's it's it's awesome to have you on. We'd love to have you on again. Uh thank you everyone for tuning in live. You guys have been fantastic in the chat. I saw some deep conversations going on in terms of the format saving the esports. So, we'll definitely ceue up a Shark Tank episode in the future. Um, thanks to the fellow
• 139:00 - 139:30 co-hosts. And make sure you join the Patreon as well. patreon.com/chcast. Links will be in the description. Uh, something like that. I don't know. Yeah, one of those ones there. And you can find it in the YouTube description as well if you're watching. Uh, shout out to the audio listeners. And we will be well I guess we'll have some predictions for NA this week. Obviously got NA coming up later on this weekend. EU quals are back um this weekend as well. So we'll stay tuned to see if KC uh can have a perfect quals. I'm sure you'll be you'll be
• 139:30 - 140:00 getting the boys back on board for another win. And yeah, we need we need to qualify for Yeah, let's just start off by qualifying. It was right about this time last year that I remember something else happens. Dude, it's it's the fifth regional that everything gone pretty pretty badly. But no, it's I mean we cannot miss worlds anymore. So that's the one thing. That's good. Pressure's off. But uh yeah, thanks everyone for tuning in and yeah, we will see you guys in our next bonus set. We'll have we'll have predictions up and stuff and some some other things during the week. And then I guess the next time you'll see us
• 140:00 - 140:30 live without locking in and all talking to the boys will be the post NA uh most likely. Yeah. Recap. Unless we like do a random pre like episode this week. We might I don't know the the episode's going crazy. I don't know this since Rizzo's put on a Garrett G costume, we have absolutely smashed smashed out. Since Rizzo became CEO, the company's just taking it to the next level. Rizzo elevated himself. It's been crazy. He's
• 140:30 - 141:00 making us work like absolute dogs down here on Shawcast on the ground level as as the plebs that we are. But yeah, shout out to everyone and thanks for watching. We will see you guys in the next episode. See you later. Bye-bye.