Millennial Kingdom + Gog-Magog: Is the Little Season Over? | the fig tree generation joins TUC
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Summary
In this fascinating video, the hosts dive into the intriguing questions surrounding the Millennial Kingdom and whether we have already emerged from the 'Little Season.' Joined by Jim and Deborah from the YouTube channel, The Fig Tree Generation, the discussion delves into various topics including hidden history, biblical prophecies, and the significance of understanding the calendar in light of current spiritual awakenings. Through engaging dialogue, they explore what it means to live in anticipation of the Kingdom and the importance of aligning with Yah's instructions in these tumultuous times.
Highlights
Jim and Deborah's awakening started with the Flat Earth theory, evolving over time to embrace Torah. 🌐
The idea that we could already be past the 'Little Season' challenges traditional eschatology. ⌛
Parsing through extra-biblical texts offers revolutionary insights into historical timelines. 📖
There's a shift occurring today akin to past changes noted in spiritual and biblical forewarned events. 🔄
Aligning with Yah's commandments presents a pathway to spiritual enlightenment amidst deception. 🌟
Key Takeaways
The Millennial Kingdom might be a past event, prompting reevaluation of current times. 📜
Jim and Deborah share their journey from discovering the Flat Earth to embracing Torah. 🌍
The concept of a 'Little Season' might be more complex and possibly already concluded. ⌛
Redefining the biblical timeline through extra-biblical texts can bring new insights. 📚
The spiritual awakening involves more than recognizing conspiracies—it's about returning to righteous living. ✨
The discussion challenges the anticipation of a physical New Jerusalem by emphasizing living the Kingdom now. 📅
Overview
The discussion opens with an intriguing hypothesis: Have we already passed through the 'Little Season' mentioned in biblical prophecies? With Jim and Deborah from The Fig Tree Generation, the conversation is set against a backdrop of profound spiritual awakening, drawing from their personal journey from skeptics of mainstream narratives to adherents of Torah. What started as curiosity about the shape of the Earth led them to a deeper, more meaningful walk of faith.
As the dialogue progresses, the focus shifts to a critical examination of the timeline of biblical events. The hosts dissect theories around the Millennial Kingdom, suggesting it might have occurred already, and explore how this impacts our understanding of current events. By leveraging extra-biblical texts, they propose an alternative perspective on history, one that intertwines prophecy, reality, and revelation.
Amidst this rich exchange, there's an underlying theme: the urgency of returning to Yah's instructions for living. The Clarity gained from examining scripture beyond the canonical lenses encourages individuals to live out the precepts of the Kingdom now, rather than passively awaiting a future fulfillment. There's a call to action—embody the righteousness of the Kingdom, engage in spiritual rejuvenation, and be proactive amid escalating global uncertainties.
Chapters
00:00 - 01:30: Introduction and Guest Introduction The chapter begins with the host introducing the theme of generational arguments, humorously noting the presence of 'The Fig Tree Generation' represented by guests Jim and Deborah from a YouTube channel of the same name. The discussion for the evening is set to focus on topics including the millennial Kingdom, a short season, and related subjects.
01:30 - 09:00: Discussion on Millennial Kingdom and Short Season The chapter discusses the timing of the Millennial Kingdom and the ‘short season,’ questioning common beliefs about whether or not we are currently in the Millennial Kingdom. Some people believe that the short season is far in the future, but characters Jim and Deborah suggest that these events have already occurred. The chapter also raises questions about biblical interpretations, specifically regarding the identity and pronunciation of Gog and Magog in the context of prophecy.
09:00 - 21:30: Guest Testimonies and Personal Stories The chapter opens with a casual introduction, setting a relaxed tone for the discussion to follow. The host welcomes the guests and thanks them for accommodating the late start time, acknowledging their family commitments. This adds a personal and relatable touch to the session. The conversation hints at topics of interest, such as 'baroo' and 'Enoch', though details are left unspecified. The primary focus shifts towards personal stories and testimonies, where guests are encouraged to share and introduce themselves to the audience, suggesting a theme of personal connection and sharing past experiences.
21:30 - 31:30: Flat Earth and Scriptural Insights In this chapter, Jim and Deborah, the creators behind the small YouTube channel 'The Fig Tree Generation', briefly introduce themselves. They mention they have extensive videos that detail their life stories, amounting to around six hours of content. Despite the speculative nature of whether they belong to the 'Fig Tree generation', they are open to sharing parts of their testimony.
31:30 - 46:30: Homesteading, Torah Observance, and Life Changes The chapter begins with reflections on the evolution of a channel started in 2017, initially focused on homesteading. The creators initially believed they were part of a 'victory generation,' but circumstances have led to questions about that label.
46:30 - 55:00: Understanding Millennial Kingdom Timing This chapter discusses the timing of the Millennial Kingdom, drawing a parallel with cultural references such as the movie 'Back to the Future 2' and personal milestones like the year individuals 'come to Torah.' Personal anecdotes about class years serve as metaphors for spiritual awakenings and understanding.
55:00 - 68:00: Speculations on History and Tartarians The narrator discusses their discovery of conspiracy theories during their time as a firefighter, where they had a lot of free time. They talk about watching YouTube videos, particularly during the 'honeymoon period' of the flat earth movement, and how these videos were mind-blowing and transformative for them.
68:00 - 79:00: Theories on Gog-Magog War and Historical Events The chapter discusses the realization of the existence of a firmament above, which fundamentally changed the narrator's perspective on life. This understanding was reached around 2016, leading to a week of deep contemplation and sky-watching. The work of Rob Skeo significantly influenced the narrator's new viewpoint during this transformative period.
79:00 - 89:30: Short Season and Deception in Modern Times The chapter discusses the experience of observing numerous tests related to NASA's expeditions and how those experiences influenced the understanding of truth as described in scriptures. The narrator reflects on their upbringing in a Christian household, attending church regularly, and shares a personal anecdote about reconnecting with a childhood sweetheart from a shared past at a Christian school.
89:30 - 104:30: Discussion on End Times and Kingdom of God The chapter opens with a personal anecdote about a significant relationship that started in sixth grade. The speaker is married to their high school sweetheart, and they charmingly recount the origins of their romance, noting a period of lost connection before reuniting later in life. This narrative transitions into a reflection on the themes of time, relationship, and perhaps a metaphorical connection to the larger theme of the Kingdom of God, although specific details on this discussion are not provided in the given transcript.
104:30 - 115:00: Moon Map Theory and Future Speculations In this chapter, the speaker reflects on their upbringing in a Christian Baptist school and their subsequent discovery of the Flat Earth theory. They describe the experience as amazing and discuss how it changed their perspective on certain scriptures. They mention the concept of a firmament and the presence of water above it as described in religious texts, expressing amazement and a choice to believe in these ideas.
115:00 - 119:30: Closing Thoughts and Upcoming Events The speaker reflects on an interesting theory about a large piece of ice falling during a flood, akin to Kent Hovind's ideas, which ties into biblical interpretations from Psalms. This leads to thoughts about the firmament being eternal or lasting until it is rolled up, as mentioned in scripture. The speaker expresses surprise at learning about the seven firmaments, which sparked a deeper interest in biblical studies and prompted further exploration of religious texts.
Millennial Kingdom + Gog-Magog: Is the Little Season Over? | the fig tree generation joins TUC Transcription
00:00 - 00:30 in the ongoing arguments of this generation or that generation I pleased to announce that we have the Fig Tree generation with us tonight I I worked on that for a couple hours guys um very good and uh so tonight I have Jim and Deborah with me you can see their names right there from the YouTube channel the Fig Tre generation we're going to be talking tonight about the millennial Kingdom the short season and of course
00:30 - 01:00 we'll be asking the question are we still in the short season most people uh think we're not even in the millennial Kingdom yet like we're the short season is like way far away but but Jim and Deborah are so ahead of this that we're not even in that anymore that's old news so so they'll they'll be talking to us about that and we'll be asking the Gog Magog question is it Gog of mog or Gog and MOG and am I even pronouncing MOG correctly
01:00 - 01:30 and we'll be talking about other things like baroo and Enoch and things like that so welcome guys thanks for coming tonight uh we decided to go hopefully you don't mind me saying this we decided to go nine o'clock instead of s o'clock so you guys can get your children into bed I think they're all tucked in hopefully the fingers crossed hopefully hopefully we'll get through this tonight so tell me about yourself uh or tell the viewers uh you're probably introducing yourself for the first time to a lot of people out there so
01:30 - 02:00 any any information about you guys your you know your life story just whatever whatever whatever needs to happen we don't have enough time for that we can share a bit of Our Testimony for sure we have like six hours worth of videos about our life so if you but uh my name is Jim this is Deborah my wife uh we have a small YouTube channel called the Fig Tree Generation Um whether or not we're in the Fig Tree generation is up for question yeah um well probably not
02:00 - 02:30 even a question anymore but yeah when we started the channel I think we thought we were the victory generation and now it's a big question mark yeah yeah we started it out as a kind of a homestead Channel back in 2017 um yah kind of started working on my heart yeah and uh I started seeing the lies of the world uh probably about 2015 2016 and you know seeing okay you know 911 you know that was an inside J
02:30 - 03:00 we're all the class of 2015 then because I was the class of 2015 oh yeah I love that yeah well I was actually we call ourselves the class of 2017 so you're you're like an upper classman no but but we we say that just because that's when we came to Torah yeah um but every time I watch Back to the Future 2 now and Marty goes to 2015 I'm like that's the year I wake up great maybe there was something to that you know
03:00 - 03:30 um but yeah we you know I started seeing these conspiracy theories and and uh I was a a firefighter for my occupation so I was sitting at the hall for hours yeah uh doing nothing waiting for something and uh and just on YouTube constantly and uh and that was like the the honeymoon period for the flat earth like it was like it was so awesome then the videos were incredible and you could learn it just like blew my mind when I came to the the understanding of
03:30 - 04:00 wow there's an actual firmament above our head like what I knew my whole life but just just saw for the first time yeah and uh when I came to that understanding probably in 2016 yeah um it just it just changed my life it changed my life that that first week I was doing nothing but I was on just I was doing I was just looking up at the sky trying to figure it out Rob skeo was a huge influence on me yeah uh during that time and uh and just because he he
04:00 - 04:30 was he was doing so many um so many tests as well and at that time it was all about the NASA fails and and seeing the tests that people were doing on on different things and it took me a second to get into the word and actually see that wow scripture is actually true yeah you know and I grew up we grew up pretty much the same I grew up in a a Christian home yeah you did too we were in we were in church Sunday Sunday morning Sunday night Wednesday night and we actually went to the same Christian School she was my sixth grade sweetheart um in
04:30 - 05:00 sixth grade that's I've I have I have a I'm married to my high school sweetheart but your sixth grade uh sweetheart that's pretty impressive well we lost connection for like 20 years and then got together late so not 20 years not that old but yeah sixth grade we were 12 okay kind of I anyways um uh I lost my train of thought but yeah we were um yeah we were sixth grade sweethearts we grew up in
05:00 - 05:30 the same school same Christian School um as Baptist school so same upbringing so to like discover this Flat Earth thing was just amazing yeah and I started looking at the word different scripture different and was like understanding like wow I cannot believe when yah says there's a firmament and there's water above that like it just blew my mind I was like that's true yeah that is true and I and I chose to believe it instead of just saying oh well you know it was a big you know
05:30 - 06:00 it a big thing of ice up there and it fell down with the flood or whatever I know that's kind of the Kent Hoven yeahh logic yeah but then you but then you see David talk about it in Psalms so you're like okay no the firmament is forever it's still there or at least it's for a while until it's rolled up but anyways anyways and then I didn't even know there were seven firmaments at that time yeah um but uh you know but I was that just blew my mind and it got me into the word and um we started um
06:00 - 06:30 uh I was talking about our channel was a homesteading channel well I started we were living in the city at the time and uh I knew I started seeing wow the the world is not going into a good place and I was I started understanding and seeing that we need to get out of the city yeah and um so we ended up purchasing some land in 2017 is the land we live on now and I came up with this crazy idea to build our own house I had never built anything in my entire life and I don't know why but y'all gave me the ability to build our own house and so that's
06:30 - 07:00 when we started the channel started trying to document that yeah um and this is the house that you see behind us and uh and um anyways during that time uh we had sold our current house in the city um or we we were had to be out in the months yeah and we were building this house and we didn't have any electricity yeah no running water there wasn't insulation in the walls and we had to be out in a month yeah and uh yah great time
07:00 - 07:30 by Our Father uh he showed me his Sabbath uh he kind of opened my eyes to wow you need to be keeping the Sabbath and uh and I needed every single second of every single day to get this house done for us to get in and he's telling me to rest one day yeah and so I was like well I guess I guess we should do it you know yeah and uh but anyways I I I remember our first the first Sabbath um I stayed home at our it was at our old house and we needed to get get it ready to sell yeah and everything but I
07:30 - 08:00 stayed home yeah and I was like I'm not going to do anything today and I'm I think I made it to like 2:00 yeah and I was like I I got to do something I gotta do something so I went outside to work and we had to remove this Ivy that was on the chimney to get it ready to sell and I I stuck my hand in the ivy to grab it I grabbed hold of a hornet nest and it lit me up I mean I had I wed up you know horrible and uh I remember laying on the ground swollen up saying okay I'm going to keep your Sabbath like that's it I'm I'm going to keep it from now on
08:00 - 08:30 yeah and the rest is history I mean after that you know once you see the Sabbath you know uh we started keeping pathover the feast day yeah was our first feast day yeah well and also the last time that we celebrated Easter in our church we yeah we left the church in 2018 2019 yeah so yeah you guys are pretty much on the same trajectory of me as well I mean uh pretty crazy uh how close they are I mean 20 uh was it
08:30 - 09:00 January early February 2018 was my last Sunday at church too when we walked out I don't know what what month it was for you guys you know I will say really quickly that many within the Torah movement who have been around for say 10 20 you know 20 years whatever starting in 2015 all these Punk kids start showing up and they these flat earst into their movement and they see it as this invasion of the flat earst I was um I I was hanging out with the Torah
09:00 - 09:30 family uh less than a year ago they were very much against the Flat Earth they they they see it as an invasion on you know that their movement and all this kind of stuff and I was trying to explain to them I'm like do you guys understand you know like Rob ska was like a dirty word for them and I'm like well let's let's look at this guy's fruit do you guys understand how many people have come to the Torah because of the Flat Earth yes the number I don't know if we can even count that number I
09:30 - 10:00 mean hundreds of thousands of people prob Millions I don't even know how many it's been incredible how many of us we yah's like okay I want to show you something in scripture and if we were receptive to it he's like all right now you think that's amazing I've got let you think that shows how living the Bible is well let's show you the other 99 what the 100% of it that it is a living document so I always got I always got to throw 95% for all the the uh the
10:00 - 10:30 the Lawless Paul Fanboys out there who claim that uh you know give the 13 letters uh they can they can have that but um even though even though I'm a 100 perent or you guys but you know the the rest of it um you guys anyways I'm sorry I'm sorry to cut you off so 2019 you guys you build this amazing home with your with your bare hands I assume I mean are we getting out the saw here are we you know
10:30 - 11:00 battery power and stuff you know but I mean but you literally built the house yourself like yeah okay I had I had uh the concrete done and part of the electric done and everything else was me yeah um and it and we downsized and I'm still building on it n yeah five years L still finishing yeah no but yeah I mean yeah that was seven years ago we're actually in our seventh year rest here at this property so we're not doing a garden and we've we've we're letting it around yeah we're letting the land yeah
11:00 - 11:30 rest this year that was seven years ago so yeah oh impressive so very good so all right so we got you build a h you wake up you build a house Flat Earth the Torah and um bring us up to now when did you start looking into the millennial Kingdom um it was probably it was I probably first heard about in 2019 is um I started watching
11:30 - 12:00 uh I think John Levy or Levi I'm not sure how he pronounces his name but he just I don't know if he even believes in the millennial Kingdom but all he does is just show a bunch of old pictures you know and with a monotone voice and uh and I I loved it I was just eating it up because I'm seeing this history and of course by now we know they're lying about everything you know like okay they can lie about the shape of the earth and and all these things that we've seen surely they're lying about history you know and uh I mean they lie about
12:00 - 12:30 everything so U I was questioning it uh but I really wasn't on board uh totally and um I don't really remember what I think uh something that always so this is it's weird I've always been into extra biblical texts even before I was in Torah a long time ago I had a book 20 years ago that I was reading that had a bunch of quote Gnostic texts you know and I always thought they're amazing and we read uh the book of Adam and Eve
12:30 - 13:00 probably in 2014 yeah 2014 and I remember like it blew my mind and I felt something from that book that for one week it changed my life and I now I know that's the ru Kadesh I was feeling yeah but then I didn't know I was just like this has changed my life for one week and then I lost it and I I was hungry I wanted it back yeah of course I lost it because my own sin yeah but but I I wanted that back so but something always
13:00 - 13:30 bothered me in that book because it says uh that Yeshua would come in the five and a half days the 5,500 years you know and Adam's waiting around he waits around five and a half days and nothing happens and he's not saved he's not back in paradise and he starts freaking out yeah you know all upset he's like wait a second and y's basically like no it's 5,500 years and so but the way we grew up and we know that the time Yeshua came was like 4,000 something you know so we're like that I don't understand and so that was already making me question
13:30 - 14:00 history and and and what we were learning yeah and uh and of course she was my wife was like coming on board with all this stuff slowly I mean I'm coming home saying derth is flat uh you know 911 and all this stuff to her and she's she's coming on board with it slowly yeah uh but you're pulling me along yeah yeah but when we uh I started um I started like watching some of these things uh about the millennial Kingdom
14:00 - 14:30 possibility of it happening and looking into prism and stuff like that and uh and so at some point you came along no I don't know when that was I think it was mud flood wasn't it mud flood maybe mud flood something I feel like I had like n and mud like so I was following uh parable of a Vineyard yeah and uh at the time that uh Justin best with Christian Tru truthers um and I was following them and there was a some crazy guy on Facebook called No
14:30 - 15:00 Hadley you were posting some crazy yeah you were posting some crazy things but it was intriguing uh and I think that's at some point and maybe in 2020 or 2019 you started making videos about it I'm not sure when the date was but yeah it was it would have been because I left Facebook probably 2020 I mean I still have an account but I stopped posting on there because it got too uh just hostile on there and I didn't want that environment you know uh
15:00 - 15:30 yeah and it was 2020 is when I really started hitting up the millennial Kingdom U discussion so yeah and we uh I started hearing some some ideas and you were explaining I think you were the first person I heard that was kind of explaining uh that the millennial Kingdom happened you know 500 adish somewhere around there this is what's really trippy about you guys' testimony because it it mirrors mine exactly I mean
15:30 - 16:00 I wrestled with the same things in Adam and Eve and gospel of Nicodemus and others like that you know over the the whole the timeline and even if you were to not go with the the Greek lxx timeline according to those books the millennial Kingdom should have started uh with the Renaissance or the Reformation right 15 about 1550 or so right so yeah that's something I I wrestled with that was the first one of the first things I turned to was those books and the timeline yeah and I mean I think you
16:00 - 16:30 were the first person i' heard kind of explain it that way yeah but I had learned my lesson okay so when I gotten into Flat Earth I was obsessed with the NASA fails before I was obsessed with scripture yeah it took me a full year of Flat Earth to really get into scripture and see that there wow the Earth is unmovable it's on pillars and firmaments and stuff like that yeah so uh so I started listening to you and then I I had to push mute on you no and and I had to get into the scripture I said okay
16:30 - 17:00 let me let me figure this out and test it in Prophecy and because we know uh well it's that verse Amos 3:7 it says surely Yahweh our Elohim does nothing but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets so I knew okay if he's if the millennial Kingdom happened already there has to be something it has to be evidence within prophets there has to be something that's going to tell us that it that it happened and uh and so I
17:00 - 17:30 you know I pushed pause a little bit and then I said okay let me get into scripture and uh and I really just began to dig into scripture I know a lot of us have but I began to dig into some of these prophecies I mean within the prophets and also what it was really intriguing to me is the Apocrypha because why were these books taken out why are they shunned in the in the Christian church and the BST Church the way we grew up I mean these books are supposed to you know lead me to chol I mean they lead me asay they're supposed to be
17:30 - 18:00 really bad and uh but you know I'm reading them and I'm like this is incredible these books are amazing and so it was like these books have to like things like baroo and and second Eis and stuff like that they have to or and Eno they have to be telling us about our time because they were moved relatively recently I mean they've always been kind of an apocryphal text uh at least for a while um but relatively recently in 18 hundreds I mean they're taken out and
18:00 - 18:30 basically shunned and said do not read this yeah um and so uh so I began digging in especially in second brou but also in a lot of these U Enoch 93 was a huge um a huge thing for me because it seems to be spelled out right there that there is a space a time of perverse generation right after uh the temple is destroyed so 70 AD you have a perverse generation that means the the millennial Kingdom hasn't started so either we're still waiting on the millennial Kingdom or the Predator prist you know kind of
18:30 - 19:00 mindset has it wrong there is a time of a perverse generation yeah and i' I've noticed to and I don't want to you know take uh digs to a dig at the non- tour crowd but I noticed that when it comes to Enoch's uh Cal uh 10day uh Week calendar that they have to kind of shift it around that that you can't really have the age of apost apostasy B right after Mich because if you do then you have to you
19:00 - 19:30 have to reconcile maybe their Doctrine was bad right and but when you recognize that there was actually a week of apostasy after Messiah ascends to Heaven you're like okay and you start looking at The Naz and how they are being uh persecuted and they're being scrubbed from history and you see the church fathers come in you're like okay this makes a lot of sense um and it isn't it amazing like how like when you Embrace
19:30 - 20:00 uh yahaha or yahweh's uh instructions in righteous living however you want to pronounce his name that when you when you stop saying I always find this amazing that most people are trying to convince other people that the Bible is true but they say yeah but that 95% don't pay attention to that it the Bible is true but it's outdated we don't have to do that anymore and it's like well why do you want me to believe this but why why do you want you want me just to look at this to say it's not true anymore but when you embrace the fact that his instructions in righteous
20:00 - 20:30 living his Torah is eternal it's forever it's his the very character of her father um everything starts clicking the place and makes sense all the Cog wheels and just history itself makes so much more sense um yeah anyways I I remember I remember back in my days I don't know what denominations you guys grew up in but I grew up you know kind of Baptist denominations and stuff and there was always this big idea of trying to expose other Den we got to we got to every we got to show how they are uh they are you
20:30 - 21:00 know falsely teaching the Bible and then you're just kind of nitpicking these little tiny man-made Doctrine things here and there and you know and I don't I don't know once you finally realize that mankind is rebelling against his Torah his very character you're like okay this makes a lot more sense you know it everybody it just people expose themselves sounds like to have like a little uh we have a child situation When the Children wake up yes I'm sorry she
21:00 - 21:30 she might have to go here and there not a problem not a problem okay and sorry I didn't I didn't want to uh interrupt but go ahead oh no interrupt anytime that's fine uh uh but no you're exactly right I mean once you you relinquish control of your life to to abide by the Torah which is just yah beautiful instructions once you do that they they don't they you realize wow they're they're not actually a burden like I've been told and you I
21:30 - 22:00 mean my goodness our father wants us to rest what a great thing I don't have you know I look forward to shabbat because I can rest I don't have to think about my job or anything I can rest and relax from it and the same thing with feast days my Our Father actually calls us to to feast and have a huge meal and have a gathering have fun and sing wow man what a horrible thing you know and there's just so many and so many things like that even things that seem a bit hard like uh like we mention we're on our seventh year rest you know we last year
22:00 - 22:30 we were thinking well how are we going to have vegetables how are we going to do this you know we we try to do a lot of homesteading here so it's like well how are we going to do these things and uh but now that we're in it it's just I'm seeing y's blessings like he's just so good he he'll take care of you through anything like he's there well let let's talk about that real quick what is that so you're in your Jubilee year and what you're not farming the ground what what does the year look like for you on your homestead uh since you're not doing that
22:30 - 23:00 what what has changed for you overall well I think um you know you read the command and I think we thought uh I think we were hoping okay our six year is going to be like crazy good we're going to get tons of vegetables and all this stuff well a huge uh hail storm came through and destroyed like almost everything last year and so we were like oh man like it's like and then pestilence yeah it was like the plagues of Egypt there was like a lot of little plagues that were happening in our
23:00 - 23:30 garden you know the little plagues of Egypt yeah but it but yah like he's provided it such strange ways that we would have never expected so this year well okay so back up till last year when we got everything destroyed well my mom had to go my mom does a huge Garden about an hour north of here well she had to go out of town for about a month for her mom her mom's health well she was like well I can't harvest my garden it's yours so we got to go and harvest our garden and have all this vegetables that we put away yeah that we put away yeah that we put away and uh and then uh you
23:30 - 24:00 know over the winter I was given a deer so we were able to stock our freezer for free um and then we y'all kind of present us with an opportunity we've had a huge life change in the last two months sorry this is way off subject but we had a huge life change with my job I've I've actually left my job and and pursued something uh you know working with my hands try trying to pursue the ancient paths yeah and um and so so when we did that y pres this was an
24:00 - 24:30 opportunity for a dairy cow uh so we have a dairy cow we would have never had that because we would have been too busy with the garden so it's just amazing it's not we didn't get a ton of vegetables last year that's supposed to last us for three years but we're getting things that are going to last us for three years you know in in a different way inre yeah we do we raise sheep and so he's increased that as well so um well I I also and want to uh I think this is good to talk about and and the re here's the reason why is and you
24:30 - 25:00 guys have seen this yourself that within the greater Millennial Kingdom discussion I would say most of the it seems to me that it it is it is not tting in our favor of the Torah crowd even though many many within Torah are looking into this it it blows my mind that we're talking about something like that the the it was the seventh day of creation right it was the the Sabbath
25:00 - 25:30 rest the Sabbath and this is the cogni distance of like well yeah that the Sabbath Millennial Kingdom came but we're not to keep the Sabbath it's like wait what what right it's these kind of things right it's just it's that cognitive distance and what I have found through this is that um so many people want to have this discussion about stolen history and how that the millennial kingdom was stolen from us and everybody wants to be like well I
25:30 - 26:00 wish I was in that Kingdom living in it but it's like well why what's stopping you yeah what's stopping you like live it now it like the King has these laws that and they're Eternal and and so this it's it's learning to be righteous and that's what the Sabbath is about that's what the Jubilee that what you guys do I think this is phenomenal I think this is incredible that you guys are uh being loyal to do that and might I just add that one of the things I'm always trying to point out within the Torah is that we look at it very from an exoteric
26:00 - 26:30 perspective uh you know of of material you know like a material Altar and you know an actual goat and you know actual sacrifice oh we can't give s oh actually you can give sacrifices we are to be a Living Sacrifice every day right you are literally in every sense of the spiritual word to throw yourself on that altar every single day the fire is the ru Kadesh and you we are to be a sacrifice every day right literally pick up our crosses and follow Y and so the
26:30 - 27:00 idea is is that in a jubilee year the the the the wealth you know yah says test me try me like you know I don't if he says test me but he's like just just watch me just bless you with like three you know years worth of type of uh bouncing but I think what he I think one of the things he's talking about there is is the true gold which is you know wisdom and and the knowledge of the Torah and these kind of things and the the blessing you have to be to take that year of not being out there
27:00 - 27:30 sweating digging you know in the ground every day and being able to focus on y'all for that entire year and I think that that's a great blessing for everyone to have so uh that's that's really cool to hear you guys I didn't I didn't know that that you guys are under your Jubilee year so uh you guys are basically living the dream this is this is incredible all right so let's talk but we don't have an awesome chair like you do no I wish we had that chair
27:30 - 28:00 and yeah um yeah I I do this is original like 1960s fabric too so you know I'm in the I'm in the city of Charleston and there's uh there's old money here in Charleston and you you know you go down the thrift stores and you just find some you know incredible stuff in there yeah um all right so let's let's talk about this so it sounds like you guys are kind of on the the
28:00 - 28:30 timeline of the Adam and Eve Greek lxx timeline that if I'm understanding you correctly mashiach arrived in the year I would say resurrected 5,500 years after Adam correct basically there we're looking at the age of apostasy according to Enoch's calendar it fits like a glove as far as I'm concerned um and then we're looking at we go up to the 500s what happened next um and that's that's where the wa
28:30 - 29:00 the waters get muddied and and well pretty much anything to do with Rome it seems like the waters are muddied by Rome um if they're the ones that are you know prophesied to hide the truth uh it definitely seems like the truth has been hidden so no doubt yeah there's some crazy things that were happening um I have I guess I didn't bring I got a bunch of books sitting here but yeah there's the book The chronological history of Eartha I think I think uh no you've pred it before um but it goes
29:00 - 29:30 through uh it goes through just years yeah um since pretty much I think since Yeshua and basically goes all the way to 1700s just telling you all these crazy things have happened and I mean my goodness like we think we live in crazy times I mean there's been crazy times before us yeah in the last 2,000 years uh insane things uh multiple Suns appearing you know black moons blacked out moons and black Suns all the time uh
29:30 - 30:00 you know earthquakes pestilence like insane things and uh so I do believe that there was something in the 500s uh a switch and uh I think we did we have done a video I'm not plugging our videos at all but I'm I'm just saying like please do that plug your plug your YouTube channel you're here to to PL Tre generation yeah well we did a we did a video uh called seven misconceptions of the millennial Kingdom and uh it was just misconceptions that we were kind of seeing that people were
30:00 - 30:30 asking us yeah and the more we read we kind of realized well these these misconceptions were the same misconceptions we had about uh coming into it fresh and the more we read about we realized well the millennial kingdom is not like a total peaceful time uh yes this the the Earth got to rest for a thousand years it entered its seventh Millennium which was year 6,000 which was year 500 AD somewhere around that yeah and the world got to enter a Thousand-Year rest day of rest um and it was peaceful yes but there was Wars
30:30 - 31:00 going on horrible things especially if you were refusing to follow the Tor I mean when we read in scripture you know he is to rule all nations with a rod of iron uh a sword Enoch 93 a swords given unto the righteous to rid wickedness off of the earth uh in multiple other places uh I'm I want to read once we get to something else I want to read the the letters of prester John and he talks about I mean he's they're killing people who are refusing to follow yah because
31:00 - 31:30 they want to rid the Earth of wickedness and uh and this was I mean this is this is the millennial Kingdom we're talking about and also there's uh there's a lot of things um with you know when it talks about um uh you know a child shall live to 100 years uh and if he some if he dies he'll die early you know so there is death still in Millennial Kingdom um and a lot of times people will say well what about this what about the the you you know the wolf of the lamb and all that stuff and but when we read Isaiah
31:30 - 32:00 11 and I I know it's lying with the lamb no but when we read Isaiah it's okay yeah when we read Isaiah 11 it we read all these amazing things that are happening in the millennial Kingdom yeah uh and it's incredible but at the end it says in no one will hurt at all in my Holy Mountain so there is a place it's in my belief it's the camp of the Saints which is crowded around either Paradise
32:00 - 32:30 or the entrance to Paradise um and this place is great this place is where you want to be in the millennial Kingdom there's peace there uh there's total peace uh the medicine is given there the Nations can come up there they can celebrate zote as Zechariah says yeah they can come up there and do these amazing things and and serve yah in his Torah um and there it's amazing but you go out to these other places I mean we're it's already given it I think it is Zechariah where it says if you do not
32:30 - 33:00 uh celebrate sood you won't have any rain on your land we have a lot of uh desert regions here on this Earth what happened you know they refuse at some point they refuse to follow the Torah and and that's a hard one especially if if you believe the torah's done away with uh that's a hard one to deal with and especially if you're not Torah and believe the millennial Kingdom happened you got a you got a pretty big yeah you got a pretty big thing to reconcile because the Earth parts of the earth were destroyed because they refused to
33:00 - 33:30 keep Torah and um so anyways I I do believe there's a Thousand-Year rest I don't believe it was totally peaceful I believe that the Earth itself got the rest um and things grew different um there's um there's an old book I'm G to say it I'm not going to be able to reference it but there is an old book uh that we were looking at and it had pictures of avocado trees and these avocados with the size of a man and tons of stuff like this and I don't know
33:30 - 34:00 where this was I don't know if they're just playing around or my kind of gu right there yeah that's right the movie and I don't know yeah but there's there's things like that that are just insane like just why would they make that up like a book that old why would they but there's so many other things like that that we're looking at and this is what's intriguing people they're looking at these old pictures of these buildings and saying what in the world happened it's actually in second Baro 74
34:00 - 34:30 if you don't mind I'm going to read it real quick just because it's it's amazing uh and it seven this is from the sepher so it says second Baro 741 it says and it shall come to pass in those days the Reapers shall not grow weary nor those that build be toil worn for The Works shall of themselves speedly Advance together with those who do them in much Tranquility for that time is the consummation of that which is corruptible and the beginning of that
34:30 - 35:00 which is not corruptible uh I mean this is amazing people could go out and you could build a a cathedral before you were 30 I mean you could build amazing things because your work speed would say speedily advanced in much Tranquility so you could do these things that were absolutely amazing and that's where I think we're getting these buildings uh I don't know that the saints were doing them maybe they were but these people were able to build and you grew up in the millennial Kingdom would you know you were in the millennial Kingdom like
35:00 - 35:30 you you've heard like people say we never knew we were poor you know when we were kids because they they were growing up poor you never knew you were poor yeah but if you were in the millennial Kingdom and you would just think it's natural for someone to live longer or someone or your dad man your dad's built the whole city that's pretty amazing you know you just thought that was natural well let's talk about that uh Point um so you brought up that people wouldn't know they're in the millennial Kingdom so why would people not know that
35:30 - 36:00 they're in the millennial Kingdom well I believe some people knew um but I believe that most people uh were they were righteous um I don't know about you n but I know like my grandparents are some of the most holy people that I have met now they they might not specifically believe in the Torah but they lived holy lives which is according to the Torah and when I look past that their grandparents same thing so what happened we come from an
36:00 - 36:30 inheritance of a lot of righteous people holy people that that tried to live righteous lives and so when we look back like I just think it was the norm now some people knew I think some people knew hey we need to we need to get up and and you know see some of the Saints or or get close to them or or get to where Paradise is um I don't I don't know but I do think if you were just growing up you know I don't know just pick a country if you're just growing up
36:30 - 37:00 you would just think oh it's normal that um that you know things are better and obviously like like we said like we said Isaiah 11 like it it was really good in the Holy Mountain and way you get from there maybe it wasn't you know yeah me let me just I mean comment on our grandparents really uh quickly because we are we were obviously all seeing this this helter skilter kind of slide uh down into shol but when you look at when
37:00 - 37:30 you look at like the 1800s even when you read Darwin or John M or uh these these individuals who were breaking in these movements that were breaking away from the Bible they could quote the Bible up and down I mean they were so educated they could Charles Darwin could Out quote almost any Christian today I mean just in his language the way he talked um and this is a of course you know what we've lost and then you if if I were to
37:30 - 38:00 ask anyone today look around and show me a spiritual role model now I'm not talking about on YouTube I'm talking about in the mainstream culture talking about you know the Kim Kardashian you know culture out there it's a scary culture out there show me a single uh show me in our heritage a single spiritual role model and it's non-existent right and then you go back and you look at Medieval artwork and everything everywhere is directed to
38:00 - 38:30 you living a holy life like everything out there is you know you are to Aspire to this lifestyle of honoring your creator getting closer to your creator and and if you see naughty artwork out there it's like don't be like this person it's a ro you know don't use you know this person's Rebellion as you know your your model for living and it's yeah anyways so I just wanted comment on that really quickly and the modesty I think
38:30 - 39:00 right and like pictures you know these older pictures like the modesty of men and women the way they dressed like everything about it just seemed to be so they were preserved you know they were seeking to live righteous lives even from the outward appearance and that's something that really catches my attention when we when we see a lot of these like old 1800 photos or whatever they're dated it's just like from the outward like the outside looking in they're even trying to live righteous modest lives you know I mean you had
39:00 - 39:30 walk around upside well so here you talked about the the CH children living to be a hundred u i could pull out I have all these history books out here I'm infatuated now with the with the Dark Ages and I'll buy any history book on the Dark Ages that I can and just read and in like a single paragraph how they describe it every single time high child mortality rate right uh children were dying left and right uh parents didn't care about their children people were living in poop uh there were you know there were diseases on fleas
39:30 - 40:00 everywhere and yet you course you know they built these beautiful cathedrals right and even even if all of that were true even if what they're saying about that they could erect these beautiful cathedrals living in poop and mud and all this kind of stuff and dying by the age of 30 and I think like you know the average human lived like 30 to 40 all this kind of stuff even if all that is true one thing that they haven't successfully been able to hide is the
40:00 - 40:30 the the spiritual true spiritual enlightenment of that uh that entire thousand years that even though they St it's the Dark Ages people were more spiritually enlightened in that time uh than any other time in history as far as I'm concerned and another thing that I I've been Comming on recently is on the pilgrimage I mean we talk about cot right and how you you have to you have to keep Cote and you have to go to
40:30 - 41:00 Jerusalem all this kind of stuff and any medieval history book they tell you that the the Middle Ages was exemplified by the characteristic of the pilgrimage and I I find that really fascinating this idea that people were constantly on a on a trip to Jerusalem uh in one regard or another wherever this Jerusalem was so just wanted yeah carry on oh but you guys and you guys are also I
41:00 - 41:30 just wanted to throw this out there um you guys are familiar with maybe my what I looked at uh my research on the hidden Wilderness correct maybe yeah a little bit yes yes yeah yeah I think I feel that that's one of the things that we really missed out on on the Flat Earth movement back in 2015 2016 in this greater realm and understanding that actually in Enoch and Adam and Eve and second eus these books they all talk about this great expanse of land this
41:30 - 42:00 hidden Wilderness where the righteous live on on the earth and um you guys are still with me all right yeah sorry you must have said something uh wrong there I don't know I guess so and uh and it it was interesting in my research to find that the scenes I don't know how you guys feel about the Asin the Asin actually believe this as well that there was a a there's a maturity realm where you can only go if you're a
42:00 - 42:30 spiritual entity like in our realm that there's actually a heaven on Earth place where actually New Jerusalem touches down and Paradise comes down and then of course you know you look into the moon map and for me that that just seals the deal to see a huge swath of land out there that is as as as described in visions of Paul that is beyond the Circuit of the Sun and the Moon and it should be in complete darkness but it's actually lit up by yahusha hamashiach by the light and um in of course in second
42:30 - 43:00 ezis it says that that the hidden Wilderness will be uh there there will be a time when it will be exposed to the rest of the world until of course the time that it's Declassified again so what you're quoting it says it'll be in a place where no man's uh no man has dwelt it's in a place for no man dwells I mean I think that's amazing or no man's building is dwelt or something
43:00 - 43:30 like that so I think it's amazing you know yes so I just want to throw that into the conversation that my personal View and of course I'm interested in what you guys's view are is is that during this time that this large and I I actually think that that's why Globe Earth the whole deception came about that they had to shrink the Earth down from what was known at that time you got a guy like aristes I've heard some uh older people people challenging the idea that aristes was actually never taught to their parents
43:30 - 44:00 or grandparents in school that he's actually maybe even rather recent invention that they actually invented this guy you know to show that the Earth was a globe What 3,000 years ago or whatever uh that you know until 10050 years ago everybody thought the Earth was flat pretty much so um well I shouldn't say everybody because you know we got cernus and all that but we know that they were teaching it in Russia I think up to the 1920s that the Earth was flat which is pretty crazy to think
44:00 - 44:30 about yeah but yeah I think they're like you said I think they're hiding they their goal was to hide land was to hide what they knew uh you know used to be and ultimately I mean when we look at history uh isn't that the goal there I remember we talked about Rob skeba he he said it was to hide yacht yes like they're trying to hide yacht and that's ultimately what it is I mean look at look yeah look at even even the history I mean if it's the short season uh what
44:30 - 45:00 would be your number one goal if you're hassatan you would want to hide the millennial Kingdom because if everyone knew wow we messed up we really messed up because we had it perfect in the millennial Kingdom wouldn't everyone start fighting for righteousness again you know and that's the problem I mean he he he was able to convince us it didn't happen you know and uh and so you know that would be your number one goal and you know to hide the land if there is a hidden lomness if there is
45:00 - 45:30 somewhere where the saints were dwelling uh you know a delectable land and you know the holy the Mount Zion the actual Mount Zion um then you know I don't know yeah that would be your your job is to hide it well let me just let me just throw this scripture verse out there uh I just quoted this actually on I put this on YouTube a couple days ago that the this comes from wisdom of Solomon now the context here is that it is they're wandering the Wilderness due to their Disobedience the children of
45:30 - 46:00 Israel are just whining complaining yach sick and tired of them and eventually these fiery serpents these probably seraphim Angels come and start killing all the people in which Moshe is told you know to raise the the serpent on the pole and everybody looks at it they can be saved and of course you guys everybody out there listening those yahusha quotes from this you know famous John chapter 3 passage and refer to himself and so this is what it says and
46:00 - 46:30 so this is the context and wisdom of Solomon is rehearsing this and it says but they were troubled for a little season that they might be admonished so keep in mind the little season is because of their transgression they're being admonished and it says having a sign of Yeshua and that would be of course salvation having a sign of Salvation to put them in remembrance of the Commandment of your Torah and so if I take this and I and I show that all scripture connects uh theologically
46:30 - 47:00 thematically and and they were supposed to go into the land right they didn't go into the land and they had to wander because of their transgressions and their complaints and their disbelief and so on and so forth that we are in we're in a time in his story where there is a growing understanding of his instructions and righteous living we're put here to to look up at our Salvation uh yahusha hamashiach and and not just
47:00 - 47:30 form him into our image of you know a Greek man God or whatever you know a lawless you know whatever but to to know that you know he kept Torah and that we are to walk as he walked and you know we are here to learn that and it's interesting because that's what we see all across the world where people are waking up to his instructions again now let let's just maybe go into this right now so you were telling me uh Jim and Deborah that you feel that
47:30 - 48:00 we're not in the little season anymore so maybe we could just lay out the the the time frame right here I mean you guys are kind of you guys are on the same timeline as I am I think with the Greek septu aent 6,000 the year 6,000 would be about the 500s we go through a thousand years we're coming up on the 1500s now what is the little season look like for you guys how long does it last if we're not in it if we're not in it anymore what does that mean mean for us now um I would say that that idea is
48:00 - 48:30 probably pretty new to us yeah um it's something that I've kind of uh just kind of molded over and kind trying to think outside the box and trying to think maybe what if what if it's done you know what if it's done and I and I I see um Al so you know I want to think that way because uh the Pharisees they missed Yeshua they knew everyone knew right then that that a messiah was coming they were waiting I think they knew the prophecy of the 5 and a half days most of them did I think they were
48:30 - 49:00 waiting for when we read the book of the narim or the the uh gospel Kady um it's it's showing us there are tons of Messiahs running around so many yeah so many and and you're like you you know and Judas like left Messiah because he he thought someone else was that was his one big reason for betraying him yeah um he I think it was Simon the the the just or something it wasn't sonon ma it was another one but I mean you had sonon M you had tons of these like Messiah
49:00 - 49:30 figures running around because they bra yeah in the gospel natsarim or kidi barabus is a messiah wannabe and I think that even Josephus talks about in 70 AD that there were three Messiahs I think if I'm not Mis quoting them in the city of Jerusalem when it was siege and they sectioned off the city according to what Messiah you were with and of course they were all killed but interesting with bar it's creepy with
49:30 - 50:00 barabus because it's he's like the uh you know almost like in a Zazzle goat situation and you know barabus was freed to go off into the Wilderness and I love that story in the gospel where yahusha approaches barabus and and Barabas is like and he says something and Barabas is like what business is this of yours you know who cares who cares what I'm advocating what what what does this matter to you and he gave this great little parable of of a
50:00 - 50:30 two guys in a boat together and one of the guys is drilling a hole in the boat and that's how he ends it you know like he just ends it's like yeah that that would be the other guy's business but iess I'm going down a different Hound Trail here a gospel Kady uh Trail is awesome that's one of my favorite gospels I think it's absolutely amazing and it explains so much about the if any of the listeners haven't read it I know most of your listeners probably have yeah no but but there it's amazing I
50:30 - 51:00 mean it just explains so much of just it's just amazing I just can't you know I love it explain it's one of the greatest gifts to come along in terms of extra biblical books yeah absolutely but but yeah so there was tons of Messiah running around um and uh and um so the Pharisees missed Yeshua because they were waiting for this King you know this guy to come in get rid of the Romans and lead them to you know refurbish the temple and teach the Torah
51:00 - 51:30 and bring on this Age of Enlightenment or whatever you know they were waiting for that and they didn't they missed the suffering servant they missed the the one who was bruised for our transgressions they couldn't see that and I don't think all these Pharisees were like really bad dudes you know they were keeping the Torah they were keeping a lot of extra stuff too and and pushing it upon people but you know they're not much different than a lot of people we know today within the Torah group yeah you know and so I just think they couldn't they couldn't wrap their head around some of the prophecies you know
51:30 - 52:00 in Isaiah and and some of these things you know and uh you know why you know why I think they didn't know he was Messiah I think it's best explained in well Ascension of Isaiah is a great book but uh Gospel of Nicodemus which apparently ni Nicodemus was originally written in Hebrew uh it it becomes from Top management and H hassatan did not know that yahusha was messia and this is something that Michael Heiser talked about that when the
52:00 - 52:30 Temptation the Wilderness was actually hassatan trying to feel him out and being like who are you like who do you and when he was trying to when he asked him to jump It's because he wanted to see and Messiah he didn't jump and so he's like well clearly you're afraid clearly you're not the Messiah that's he walked away you know Messiah kind of hustled he he didn't show all his cards right and so finally when s when yahusha goes down to shol and Satan's getting reprimanded down there by the prince of
52:30 - 53:00 shol which actually might be Tartarus and uh and that's when he puts it together and that's when the temple controllers put it together so you see it in the same way with um kind of a top management issue exactly yeah and and uh and so I don't know I guess when looking at that you're like you don't want to be like that in missant side you know you need to have we need to have an open mind because man I mean just three years ago I thought oh you know or well i' say
53:00 - 53:30 four four or five years ago I thought there was oh there's going to be a Rapture seven-year tribulation and waiting for the Antichrist again you know all these things and and y''s complete I mean if we're in Torah right now like all your listeners and people listening we we should be the most humble people because we should realize we have been wrong about everything like we are looking at our lives and saying oh my goodness the you know understanding Torah is just understand understanding sin it's understanding the definition of sin and understanding how
53:30 - 54:00 sinful we really are you know and so that should make we shouldn't be going around looking look at us we're we're Torah people we believe this and this we should be like oh my goodness we are such Sinners we have got it wrong so many times we have been lie to and we believe the lies so I don't know just approaching the millennial Kingdom yeah I've kind of been like wanting to just kind of get go back and say okay wait a read it with fresh yeah read it with fresh eyes and kind of understand well maybe maybe the short season is over there's something in Enoch 93 that's
54:00 - 54:30 intriguing to me and it's the Judgment of the Watchers um we our time right now uh in the last 200 years and really heavily in the last hundred years uh and now in the last 20 years has is insane it's it's like no time in history except for one and the a lot of things that are taught right now and a lot of things we're learning right now uh just name them abortion all these things I can't think of all don't name them yeah don't name them but but all those things that
54:30 - 55:00 they're doing right now uh they've been done before and they've been done and were taught by the Watchers um so it's not I don't think it happened uh until except for that time the time the days of Noah you know so when I look at that I'm like okay there's definitely a shift that has happened in the last 200 years and uh um you know the the population growth from the 1800s is insane there was like nobody here where was everybody at and
55:00 - 55:30 we look at the the things like the orphan trains and and the things like that like all of a sudden you have all these these kids here like what happened something happened 200 years ago I have and I have a theory and I could be wrong uh it's something we say all the time we have a theory but we could be wrong uh because we've been wrong before yeah but my belief is that the god mag God War has already happened and we're living in a time of um of the Judgment of the Watchers so the Watchers are either here or they're
55:30 - 56:00 trying to be here um and that's just my my thought I don't know but I'm just re-evaluating my idea about the millennial Kingdom in short season it definitely appears that this is a short season we're under so much deception now that I don't know another time in history yeah I don't know another time in history we were in this much deception but could it be that we're just experiencing the Watchers and and no we talked the other day and you were talking about the uh that Hassan's been he's been chained up multiple times I
56:00 - 56:30 think it's the Gospel of Barnabas we're reading yeah there's that but also the um book of jubilees talks about how he was um he was uh basically cast in prison or whatever you want to call it uh multiple times like during the Exodus account that he was he was bound and he was then released in order to go NAB pharaoh and get him to chase him into Red Sea all that kind of stuff but yeah
56:30 - 57:00 you see throughout history different times that he is uh he can be bound yeah so I mean yeah he's he's Bound in this short season we have no idea you know exactly how many years it is um and something that was intriguing uh this book it's called a 100 sermons upon the Apocalypse of isus Christo and uh this is an obviously a reprint it was in the 1500s um and this is based now this is not scripture of course this is commentary but if it's from the 1500s
57:00 - 57:30 I'm it's already got you know it's already good yeah yeah if it's anything that old I want like I want to read what these people are talking about no it's Old English and I can't understand a single thing they're saying she has need me to transl she has to read it for me because I can't read Old English for some reason my mind doesn't do the fs and s's switch but um but anyways uh but it's talking about um he's he's in the 1500s saying he's 500 years into the short season uh why he says this he he
57:30 - 58:00 has a lot of reasons he he gives um but he's saying he's already 500 years into the short season now when we talk about the millennio kingdom happened in 1500 I mean in in 500 1500 is range uh that doesn't really align unless we're misunderstanding the fact that maybe hassatan was put uh in prison chained when you Yeshua or or when the temple was destroyed somewhere around there
58:00 - 58:30 maybe he was put in for a thousand years and he came out at 1 AD you know maybe the Thousand-Year Reign and the Thousand Years he's chained is not uh doesn't go together maybe they're separate I don't know uh it's just a different I'm just trying to think about it in a different way to explain some different things because this guy's saying he's he knows he's like I'm 500 years into it this short season and it's bad and he explains a war that happened in Israel and he's explained these these these wars that are about to happen and it's
58:30 - 59:00 the go meog War he says the the war to end all wars let me uh let me just read it real quick if you don't mind yeah please do it's Old English so I'll I'll do the best I can but he says the last conflict or fight is of mayom okay mayom he mentions him multiple times um which is uh Muhammad um now that's just from me
59:00 - 59:30 looking it up Googling it but maybe there's maybe there's more to that uh by the sasines so the last conflict is of mayat by the sasines the Turks and the tartarians um it is most cruy fought and with much woe and would God it were Fen and I can't read anymore because I just don't understand it but but he's saying the last battle is the tartarians now everybody interested in Millennial
59:30 - 60:00 kingdom is like who are the tartarians we see them all in these old maps and they're gone where did they go you know and this is this is the I don't know if it's the why are they call the tartarians it's too close to Tartarus it's too close to to the underworld you know I mean if it's the camp of the Saints why would you be calling yourself that yeah you know and so when we look at who the tartarians are and this they don't exist anymore we see them all in these old MKS we have so much history but then there's
60:00 - 60:30 nothing what happened to them you know and it's almost like they're trying to hide it you know we've we've been given the information to kind of go back and figure out who these people are but it's almost like they're trying to hide it so like I said before what would your job be if you're hosan you need to hide the millennial Kingdom and you need to hide the defeat yeah your defeat which was God me God War um in my opinion yeah the um the I I don't necessarily have an opinion myself on the tartarians because
60:30 - 61:00 it's it's perplexing it's a it's a perplexing thing um now I I'll give a few thoughts on this of course when you're looking at if we're going by the official timeline right I know that anybody who's into like the mud flood and stolen history G ah you're going by the official timeline but it is interesting that the tartarians what they were they would be kind of late Dark Ages into the enlightenment in that time period we're
61:00 - 61:30 looking at the 14 1500s 1600s into the 1700s this big tartarian Empire um and as you mentioned as you mentioned with the tartarians they they share I can't find a single positive reference to uh tartaria uh Tartarus the tartar whatever within within you know that word right within scripture you see a lot of
61:30 - 62:00 negativity and I don't know I it I have a lot of questions when you look at a lot of the medieval Maps they show that kind of that region of Tarter as where the Gog Magog people are so kind of on the outskirts I don't know I I have a lot of questions myself but talking about Satan covering it up well what else did he cover up he covered up the Giants too right so we're looking at into the late 1800s you're seeing just newspaper after newspaper article
62:00 - 62:30 talking about these giants that are being dug up and seems like everybody's having these conversations and then as you guys know that the Smithsonian starts backing up they disappear and then it disappears from the newspapers they stopped talking about it and and so you're seeing throughout history like like layers of an onion peel Where multiple times they're scrubbing and then they're scrubbing and then they're scrubbing and they're scrubbing and sometimes I think that if they did scrub the tartarians it doesn't mean that they
62:30 - 63:00 were the good guys does that make sense kind of like the J okay I think you guys are they okay they froze here we go let's see if we can get them back sorry guys let's see here we are and you're back sorry about that well I had the most amazing Point ever and you you weren't there for it so mov please well I'll just repeat really quickly sorry everybody I'll repeat just pretend
63:00 - 63:30 everyone listening pretend like you didn't hear this yet but my whole point was on the Giants I'm not sure at what point you guys you did freeze I wasn't sure what point you uh disappeared is that in the 1800s we see newspaper clip after newspaper clip of people digging up Giants and it's just all being reported on people are talking about it it's it's like it's just a thing right and then we start seeing the Smithsonian back up the trucks and the Giant bones disappear all that kind of stuff and then they disappear from the newspapers and what I have observed is that we're
63:30 - 64:00 seeing kind of reset after reset after reset event kind of like layers of an onion where they're scrubbing the pass and then they scrub the pass again and scrub the P so we're seeing layers of this deception things that are no longer uh tolerated and so I'm thinking I just think that there's a possibility that with tartaria that they weren't necessarily the good guys um just because they they scrubbed him and got rid of them and they clearly did it doesn't mean in my in my opinion that
64:00 - 64:30 they were the good guys they could be the good guys they could be the bad guys I don't really know just throw that out there for everyone to think about um but I'm sorry go ahead no I go ahead you had a thought I was going to talk more about the little season and that kind of stuff but go ahead well the um like you mentioned uh you know that it seems to be that tartarian is in the the region and especially in the old Maps the the region of Gog Magog or at least the land neog uh and when we look
64:30 - 65:00 at uh the map of uh arbano Monte we actually have a it up on our wall we have a reprint of it it's a great conversation piece um but it's amazing because you look at upper Russia and you see these uh the 10 tribes of Israel on their label and then you also see uh AR aragog I think this how they pronounce it aragog on there which is it's all written in in Latin so it's it's kind of it seems to be Magog but then we we look
65:00 - 65:30 at um a lot of the the older maps showing the Great Wall of China uh and the Great Wall of China is also called Alexander's wall and um when we read let me just read something if that's okay this is from the uh the book of The Bee um and if I can just read this it's it it won't be too long but it's uh it says when Alexander this is Alexander
65:30 - 66:00 the Great was King and he had subdued countries and cities and had arrived in the East he saw on the confines uh confines of the East those men who are of the children of japet they were more wicked and unclean in all of dwellers in the world filthy people of hideous appearance who ate mice and the creeping things that's Isaiah 66 right there uh of the earth snakes and scorpions they never buried their bodies of their dead and they ate as dainties that children which women aborted in the afterbirth
66:00 - 66:30 people ignorant of Elohim and acquainted with the power of Reason are unacquainted with power reason but who lived in this world without understanding like ravening beasts this is also also mentioned my wife's in a big study with it she's reading all these extra gospels and uh was the go the martydom of um Maas and Matthew Matthew and and the acts of Andrew and Maas city of maners yeah they go to a city of maners yeah and the the martydom of Matthew gives you more evidence
66:30 - 67:00 because he goes to the same city and he's basically given a rod he's yeah he's given I'm sorry you can you go no go ahead he's given a rod to uh to basically fight these people but turn them into transform them into men yeah not crazy wild beasts so the whoever these people are they eat people and they they love people they love to eat people they're cannibals yeah and uh which by the way has not been made clean
67:00 - 67:30 when people say you know all foods clean well does that include human beings you know no no one's wantan to be a cannibal but you know side sidebar um but but anyways like uh that's a good point I'm gonna actually bring that up that's actually a good point yeah I mean that's flesh I mean if we can eat All Flesh now it's all been made clean then where are the cannibals you know but they recognize when he transformed their bodies he they recognized that they were naked and they needed to be clothed yeah and they were naked at the time they
67:30 - 68:00 didn't know if you look at uh I mean just looking at all the old artwork for Alexander's wall which is my belief is the Great Wall of China uh and you look at it he built it to put these people I'm gon I'm gonna get there I'm getting ahead of myself real quick let me let me read this so so we can uh so let's see what was Alexander saw their wickedness he called Elohim to his Aid and he gathered together and brought them their wives and children and made them go in and shut them up within the confines of the north this is the Gate of the world
68:00 - 68:30 on the North there is no other entrance or exit from the confines of the world from the East to the north and Alexander prayed to Elohim with tears and Elohim heard his prayer and commanded these two lofty mountain mountains which are called the children of the north and they drew nigh to one another until there remain between them about 12 cubits then he built in front of them a strong building and he made it a door of brass and anointed it within and without oil of thes noctus so that if they should bring iron implements near it to
68:30 - 69:00 force it open they would be unable to move it and if they wish to melt it with fire it would quench it and it feared and it it feared neither the operations of devils nor of sorcerers and was not to be overcome by them now this is where it gets interesting it says now there were 22 kingdoms imprisoned within the northern gate their names are these Gog meog NE W which is very close to Nepal Ash canaz dinar wallat hum per docti th
69:00 - 69:30 dmate kbe Dogman Sali which is a passion of St Christopher there's a lot of information on Dogman uh indera Garita cannibals th Alan and Pilon and dick Dink and Sal which is is saders um these are the people so
69:30 - 70:00 Alexander the Great got all these crazy people uh and put them in the north confined them put up walls built this huge gate and uh the rest is let me just read just a little bit more and at the end of the world and at the final consummation when men are eating and drinking and marrying wives and women are given to husbands when they are planting Vineyards and building buildings and there is neither Wicked man nor aders adver adversary on account
70:00 - 70:30 of the assured tranquility and certain peace suddenly the gates of the north shall be opened and the hosts of the Nations that are imprisoned there shall go forth the whole Earth shall tremble before them this is Joel two this is the the Army the whole it says the the arm is going to come the whole Earth's going to tremble before them and they look like horses it says they're as resemblance as Horses and there's another text that says there are centaurs here as well um so but this is in Joel too this is also mentioned in Isaiah
70:30 - 71:00 33 um a place where these these creatures dwell these seders dwell and why you know why is this myth why is this myth and Legend we have tons of stuff written on seders and centaurs and all these crazy creatures and Gog magog's with them why is it all of a sudden in our time well those aren't real you know we don't see them why don't we see them you know and why is there you know why why aren't we talking about you know uh the Great Wall of China and
71:00 - 71:30 parts of it are in ruin so what's it holding back and I've always heard people talk about that is it was built uh you know they don't believe it was built to to uh protect the people inside was to keep something out uh they they talk about how it was built um but anyways this in the book of the be prophesies and this is also in the cave of treasures as well but it it prophesies they're going to come out at the end of end of days and basically destroy everything and it says after one week of that sore Affliction they will
71:30 - 72:00 all be destroyed in the plain of hopa for thither will all those people be gathered together with their wives and their sons and their daughters and by the Commandment of Elohim one of the hosts of angels will descend and will destroy them in one moment um and I I believe this is Uriel this is in Enoch 20 verse1 it says he's over the world of tartaris so it could possibly be that Uriel is coming to destroy these people is this why we don't see these crazy creatures anymore I mean where are the
72:00 - 72:30 Copalis where are these dog men you know and we have so much written about them um and and it just it's just wild to me there's uh I'm gonna sorry no there's another book called uh the history of four-footed beasts and serpents and insects uh by um Edward topsell and uh he's got three volumes of this I've seen the original on eBay it's for $3,000 U it's for me but but it's amazing and he he goes through and he writes it's
72:30 - 73:00 basically an encyclopedia of animals written in the 1500s and he's going through and he's got the normal donkey cattle snake and then all of a sudden he's got a Seder all of a sudden he's got a cent or a unicorn like on the front page he's got a unicorn he's got these crazy creatures that are actually in scripture why are they so weird to us now where did they go and not only does he have the pictures of them he's got the history of them where they were cited uh I think uh he's he's got um a Seder was um con
73:00 - 73:30 Constantine actually had one and they said he had it as a pet he would show it to people you know I mean just crazy things you know and you're like where did where did this information go why don't we have this today so um the okay so let's try to put this together like your thoughts so Great Wall of China Alexander built it uh Beyond would be uh the whole Gog Magog region they break out at what point do you think that this
73:30 - 74:00 went down this war would would this have been before the millennial Kingdom after the millennial Kingdom so are we looking at like the 500s the 1500s you know um I think Gog Magog and some of these groups probably fought a lot of Wars um I probably think they came out multiple times um uh if it's not too much uh I want to read uh something else just to give you a little background of why of why I think that uh this is uh
74:00 - 74:30 the writing of prestor John um once once again I'm I'm yeah I'm I'm reading these things I'm not saying their scripture uh if anyone is thinking oh this guy's crazy I know like you I know your audience knows so they don't they should love this um because I love it um but this is the writings of pressor John he says um basically he's writing and saying he lives in a land uh where he doesn't get sick and the people with him don't get sick uh he says 72 kingships
74:30 - 75:00 serve in our bondage um I don't know if this is the 70 Nations or 72 Nations or whatever at that time and of those few are Christians and each of them has a king by itself and these are all tributary to us in our country are born animals elephants dromedaries camels hippopotame crocodiles uh and other things I'll I'll just keep going but but mentions uh Griffins Tigers uh aases hyenas wild buffalos uh sagittari wild men men with
75:00 - 75:30 horns saders uh women of the same race pyy uh ALS yeah pygmies also the Phoenix and almost all kinds of animals under heaven in our country there is milk and honey in another quarter in our land so he's talking about all this amazing stuff that's in his land and he has these animals there now this is an Isaiah uh Isaiah 33 it says that y'all will move the Seder and the Lilith to
75:30 - 76:00 these places to the Wilderness and it's by his Spirit he will do it by his ruach he will do it um but real quick and it says uh um it says they are a three-day Journey he says we're a three-day Journey from Paradise from which Adam was driven out I don't know where he's at but he's in a he's in an amazing place and he goes into a lot of things and he says Beyond this Stone River there are 10 tribes of the Jews uh though they presume presume They are Kings yet they are subject to us uh this
76:00 - 76:30 to me looks like the arbano Monte map you know the upper regions in the north where the 10 tribes of Jews are dwelling in tents where it says you know he's somewhere up there um and uh and just one little thing extra he does they that he says they do go to a they do a pilgrimage you were talking about pilgrimage they do a pilgrimage to Daniel's body to see where Daniel is or where he lies I don't know if he's out of Shel at this point or what but they go somewhere they do a pilgrimage
76:30 - 77:00 each year um and then he says we have some people subject to us who feed on the Flesh of men and of premature born animals now we just read that uh we just read that where these these people are they're maners we just read in the book of the beat um uh who never feared death this is in Joel uh Joel 2 because it says these it says this Army will follow The Sword and they don't get hurt so they don't fear death they don't care and they don't get hurt they just keep coming and it says their appearances as
77:00 - 77:30 as Horses uh when any of these people die their friends and relations eat him ravenously for they regard it as a main duty to much human flesh their names are Gog Magog Ani AIT aenc fiper there's a bunch of them um it says these are Sim these and similar nations were shut in behind lock y mountains by Alexander the Great towards the north we lead them at our pleasure against our foes and
77:30 - 78:00 neither man nor Beast is left UND devoured if our Majesty gives the requisite permission and when all our foes are eaten then we return with our hosts home again and he goes on I mean there's this is an amazing there's a there's a bunch of writings of his that he wrote it's it's amazing but it gives us a picture of this place in the north you know this place in the north where the the 10 tribes of Israel were were where um where they at least they were hiding out and where Gog meog is and who
78:00 - 78:30 they are uh I don't think go meog Could Be Giants I'm not sure but I do see you're asking kind of the timeline I think we live in a time where this is PED almost they're at least they're pretending it's pasted now maybe it's not but it seems that we're living in a time where it's passed so I think maybe it happened something happened in before the 1800s something and it's a possibility it could have happened and it's just something new we're kind of looking into uh when we go
78:30 - 79:00 to Ezekiel we look at go Magog um I I give you a verse but Ezekiel says that one six of them will be left he's going to use five six of them he's going to destroy them with fire he's going to use them to destroy people in in Nations and stuff to exact his Vengeance but one six will be turned back and left so who's this six I mean one of these people one of these groups were called and I I don't know but there's there's a ton of other groups like is there one six still left and is are we expecting
79:00 - 79:30 go meore or has it happened and so that's where we've been in our thoughts yeah the well there's there's a lot there and uh you know we all know about Ash canaz and that's something that I have speculated on the past that it's interesting that the uh the Middle East today is populated by these ashas Who Came From Another Place and and um are they going to be somehow connected in you know it it's it's funny we call it the Zionist movement and are they
79:30 - 80:00 actually going to be the motivators to for the final war against Zion but there there were quite a few things you mentioned there and it's uh one was the Phoenix and the other was the wild men I'm gonna be i h it's in my stack my to-do list uh to get into the wild men I have all these notes but so impressor John just to be clear he he says that they have are the wild men in the land where he lives or does he have control over the wild men how did he phrase that I'll have to look at it myself later
80:00 - 80:30 yeah I think he says see umage well one thing while you look at that one thing that I found fascinating with the Phoenix is that uh I have I've done a lot of work on the Phoenix and I have a medieval poem that I have not yet revealed yet that I'm planning to bring out soon and written during this time this whole long epic poem on the on the Phoenix and one thing that kind of got to me about is that all throughout the
80:30 - 81:00 history the Phoenix leading up to the millennial Kingdom leading up to the 500s the the historians talk about how it it came every 500 years and but then all of a sudden in this poem it says that it it it won't come again for a thousand years I'm like well that's really interesting so we we would have this idea that according to the um the sibling oracles it was was promising that the millennial Kingdom would be ushered in with the arrival of the Phoenix which was supposed to happen in the 500s and then we see this
81:00 - 81:30 reference it won't coming in for a thousand years which I would assume would be like the 1500s but they say specifically in this epic that the the Phoenix derives from the land of the Blessed well what is the land of the Blessed it's the hidden Wilderness what is the hidden Wilderness that's where Paradise is that's where that's where New Jerusalem is that's where the camp of the Saints is that's where all of them are and they live over there with the Phoenix and the Phoenix comes to Herald the new kind of the reset event so just want to throw that's really
81:30 - 82:00 fascinating stuff and um yeah it it says that these are in his land so the Phoenix uh and the the men with horns the the wild men caol it also I might have skipped over it says Giants 40 cubits in height um these are in his land um whether or not he has control of he doesn't seem to be bothered by him and he's just kind of saying hey this is what we got up there you know and so um but I mean it's it's fascinating because he's saying I mean
82:00 - 82:30 wherever he lives he goes on and then talks about um certain herbs they use to heal sicknesses and there he's bringing herbs he writes a letter I have one of his letters it's a letter to Constantine uh not Constantine uh the great uh no I'm it's a sent to Emanuel Constantine in 1165 uh the specific letter and he's he's telling them the same thing he's like hey look we have Gog MOG up here they they fight Wars for us we send them out they they do our dirty business or
82:30 - 83:00 whatever and and what are they doing you know are we in the millennial Kingdom at this time uh my thought is when we read about professor John he was pretty uh he seems like he's pretty righteous um and you know at least in this no I'm not saying this is like 100% true I'm not saying this is scripture you think it's fascinating though and and that's that's at least enough for me to read it and say and kind of contemplate like has this happened like has the meog happen is this why we don't know these things anymore you know and U so well I will um
83:00 - 83:30 I will say in terms of the timeline what is scripture and what is not scripture and I really appreciate I love that you guys like the uh you know ad you said Adam and Eve and of course you know this Gospel of Nicodemus and others where they lay out this timeline now one of the biggest questions I have is uh people are like well why do you come up with the timeline you come up with right and you guys know my my research and why I've come out with why I what I have and I'm basing it on you know the Greek lxx
83:30 - 84:00 and actually these extra biblical books and and what I'll do what what I come what I find a lot is with the 66 Canon only crowd you know when they're in this and you can't use any of that evidence right you can't use Nicodemus you can't use Adam and Eve because then you're agreeing to the fact that there's more than the 66 out there right even though a lot of the even the KJV only 66 crowd uh they will agree to like Enoch or something like that um they'll make it 67 I guess though technically you know
84:00 - 84:30 if we make Psalm into five books which it should be we it should be 70 right can uh I mean think about it we should have 70 in Canon because Psalm is actually five books but uh what was I saying oh yeah so one thing that makes me want to just slap my my head over the keyboard over and over again is where people are like oh no you can't use these these other books as evidence for the timeline and then they're going to like point to the like the commentary at
84:30 - 85:00 the bottom of like a Geneva Bible or something like that where they say oh yeah well the the millennial Kingdom it says right here it ended in the year 170 or something like that and you're just like ah you're just you're using man-made uh Traditions now it's all great evidence but now you're you know we're using like one person's opinion who printed this book to say you know this is whatever that's that's my own thing about that but I love all the evidence and I um I haven't done anything have do you guys have a video on on uh it's prester John right have
85:00 - 85:30 you guys done a actual video on that yet uh we haven't uh this is the first one so I've Loved reading it uh the letters there but that he wrote and there's probably more written about him um there's also uh some uh Explorer called John day mandaville and he went to explore uh tartaria and he comes back uh in his book talking about centaurs up there um and it was discovered I think in the 1300s but it was discovered so I
85:30 - 86:00 don't know when it was written um but you know there just some crazy things in our history I mean we know like this scripture is insane like the more we read it this Bible this scripture we grew up with and had it in Sunday school I never knew how crazy it was and now I'm reading it and even just the Torah is so I don't want to say even just the Torah but the Torah is so rich and it's so full of just amazing things like just mindblowing things and uh I mean this is
86:00 - 86:30 not it's not boring anymore you know and I'll just admit it when I was a kid I sit in church and it was boring to me but I read it now and I'm like this is incredible and the things they're hiding from us we live in a world that like oh that stuff's not real don't don't even look at this you know half half the people probably when I said centaurs are like what in the world you know but but I mean these things are in the scriptures you know so it's just amazing yeah good yeah um and of course speaking of the tour of course uh Jim and I Debra
86:30 - 87:00 you're invited too I don't know if you're coming or not but um you I think next week right I think you're scheduled to come in for a tour portion uh yes I think so yeah I just randomly chose a date so I don't know it's next week I well that's something for everyone to look forward to um you're either both coming back or just Jim I I don't know how it works out with this the CH the children's schedule the Bedtime schedule I think 10 o' they will be in bed so um
87:00 - 87:30 but um looking forward to you guys coming back now we we have more time is there anything else specifically um well oh sorry go ahead I will I will bring up the idea of we are no longer in the little season um that I find interesting and one thing I think that a lot of us when we when we talk about the calendar right now you guys are in tour and you know
87:30 - 88:00 that anytime you bring up the calendar in Camp Torah you're GNA have 10 different opinions and everyone is very very opinionated about their they're on the true calendar everyone else is on a wrong calendar we're on our fourth one we're on our fourth calendar yeah I've I've tried a few out myself and um and I met actually bringing on next Thursday someone's coming in to actually discuss a calendar uh a uh theing calendar but when when I
88:00 - 88:30 look back in history at the different calendars it's almost like I'm seeing these paradoxes where I'm like well which one is the true you know what were the actually you know I see evidence for all these different calendars right um and one of the ideas of the year in the Canaanites Mesopotamian uh Hebrew uh idea is that we have the spring Feast we have the fall Feast right so the spring Feast
88:30 - 89:00 kicks off the year and and the the year only really goes with the Harvest and it's really interesting how there's seven times as you guys know in the year where we are commanded all the men are commanded to to go before yahaha and they all happen to coincide with the the seeding and the Harvest U and then of course you know we could play into like water and know all these different functions spiritually and how they all line up but what happens is you get through the fall Feast you come up to
89:00 - 89:30 seot and seot comes to an end you have the eighth grade day and then you go into the dark of the year and and there's basically that the idea is was did did the Ancients actually believe there was really a year it's almost like it ended and you're just in the Deb of the year you're going into winter until the spring equinox comes back in and it kicks into the gear again and so when I look at the history of the world where we're at I kind of see us in that uh I
89:30 - 90:00 don't know I don't know if this is making sense to you I see us in that like we are in the winter right now we've gone through an entire uh seventh we've gone through the biblical week like we are no longer in the biblical week the week that started with Adam has come to an end we are now Enoch talks about how there's going to be just you know Cycles all it's going to kick in all over again I almost feel like we're in uh Genesis 6 territory all over again of
90:00 - 90:30 the new week right like Genesis 6 happened like in the 700s or the whereabouts after the I kind of feel like that's where we're at like we're in the we're in the next week we're not even in the biblical week anymore and we're waiting for this whole this whole new thing to kick into gear I mean think about how deceived people were the first time when the Watchers came right like that's where we're at we're at wherever where whever they we were when the Watchers came down the first time that's where we're at now um so I don't know if
90:30 - 91:00 that answers the question whether we're in the little season or not but uh may maybe that helps jar someone's uh memory out thought process out there all right so anything else guys yeah I mean who knows if if uh if that little season involves the Judgment of the Watchers as well I mean you know our definition of little season I know like people have thrown out 1776 and all these kind of dates and stuff I mean who knows so we I mean I haven't been able to find anything I haven't heard anybody find
91:00 - 91:30 anything yet on exactly scripturally on what the little season looks like or or not what it looks like but you know the time frame is well let me let me give for you guys the reason why I think we're actually in the little season um so I actually think it does we do coincide coming up on the the 10th week here of Enoch and within the Enoch's 10we calendar the Watchers are s to be released again right before they're thrown in the Lake of Fire now one of the things that really tripped me up for
91:30 - 92:00 the longest time was a Zazzle a couple weeks ago I gave a formal presentation on a Zazzle throwing showing all the different extra biblical texts I could and in Enoch as ail is said he's given his sentence that he's going to be put into the Earth in Chains they G to you know chain his mouth up and all this kind of stuff and and of course the Watchers are put down into the Earth so that really messed me up because I'm like wait a second if a Zazzle is put down into the Earth and who's the isazo Go goat why does a Zazzle show up in
92:00 - 92:30 other text like The Apocalypse of Abraham I thought he was supposed to be in the ground and then of course in Enoch It also says on top of the in the earth uh sentence the Judgment he's also judged to be thrown into the lake of fire at the very end and so if it took me a long time but the way I see it now is that when he was given those two sentences they weren't carried out right away way like yahwah is saying you know all sin is going to be ascribed to you as a even the sin of the Watchers the
92:30 - 93:00 sin of everyone is going to be you what you did is so bad all sin is ascribed to you and you're going to be put into the Earth but not today it's not happening today but I'm telling you when you're actually released from the earth you're going to be thrown in the Lake of Fire and so if you actually put this over Revelation 20 we see that there's a fit where Satan is thrown into the abyss he's taken out short season thrown in the Lake of Fire so my thought on this is that um now I think that the
93:00 - 93:30 the the other Watchers the 200 Watchers were put into the Earth uh for those what is it 70 Generations or something like that I can't remember what it was um and I think that their release coincided probably with Hons and um and so I think it's just it's a fit that the little season when saton is released it's actually referring to just the Watchers as well that original uh Confederacy of them and we're seeing that this which you talked
93:30 - 94:00 about the 70 right so there's the 70 Elohim the Shepherds over Mankind and but now we're seeing I think that's those 70 were judged and they might have been good they might have been bad we don't really know there could have been good ones and bad ones but now we're seeing like the the 200 Nations right the 70 Nations is done we're seeing the the United Nations we're seeing um I I had pointed out before we have like 200 uh meteor craters all over the Earth which is kind of interesting is this
94:00 - 94:30 where they came out and is did this kind of energy that created when they came out did that create the mud flood event right yeah I don't know just something to think about and of course you know as we see that we're going from we talked about our grandparents I mean our our great-grandparents were born in in horse and buggy situations right official narrative right official narrative and but but we see a huge progress of technology to where we're I know roll
94:30 - 95:00 over the eyes but we're landing on the moon now right so hopefully everyone out there understands what I mean by that but it's incredible technology today incredible technology and I think that this is you know the the Watchers giving the mysteries of Heaven once again just like we saw in Genesis 6 wherever they R in history I think it's a repeat exactly we're at the same spot and we're seeing the mysteries of Heaven come down to mankind spre of course they're worthless
95:00 - 95:30 Mysteries because they're not teaching his Torah as he said in in um you know his his righteousness as he says in Enoch anyways that's just my thought right there and um I mean it's totally possible that the uh like I said we're this is something we're just kind of looking into and testing out um and and like I said in Ezekiel uh you know uh 56 of me Gog and Magog Gog of Magog is destroyed um and so there is a six left
95:30 - 96:00 so I don't know if if that is the Final War uh it sounds like at least for the rise of pressor John that he was using them to fight Wars so there might have been multiple Gog Magog Wars now it sounds like in Revelation 20 that there's one major one uh but I don't know final it's enough to make me pause and question and say well maybe what if you know and and as you know once you start like digging into that like things just kind of come to you come to Surf yeah come to the surface yeah yeah yeah
96:00 - 96:30 I have to admit that the the go Magog war is the biggest mystery to me I mean I just I have research that I put out with that a few years ago that's embarrassing to me now I don't even want it out there so yeah I have a lot of questions okay so I guess my question for you guys is what next what's happening next has New Jerusalem come down yet is are we still waiting on New Jerusalem um what's the next big event um well it definitely feels like something's going to happen uh I I think all people
96:30 - 97:00 whether you're in Torah or not or just living your life however you want I think you can agree that this world something's going on Uh something's about to happen and uh and I believe that is the case we've all been woken up for a reason such a time as this right so there's a reason we we're here we're here there's a reason we're all here talking about the Torah and talking about end times and stuff like um so I do believe something's going to happen whether it's another reset I don't know uh but you know you read
97:00 - 97:30 Enoch 93 and there's many more weeks and then a lot of the uh if I'm not mistaken I think Paul says World Without End multiple times yeah um and so we're like is does this world ever really I don't think y'all wants this world to end um he would have yeah his Mercy oh my goodness Satan H gets released multiple times so Yahweh is that merciful to hassatan to release him he still wants Humanity to turn around and you mentioned this
97:30 - 98:00 earlier no about uh you want like when you talk to people you want the kingdom to come uh it's actually in in the prayer we're supposed to pray to yah like his kingdom come thy will be done like it is our duty as men and women here as children of Elohim to bring on the kingdom uh the reason kingdom is not here right now is because of us in my opinion um especially when we read the gospel of kadi um it's it's if if you
98:00 - 98:30 don't mind let me just read one thing in the gospel of K because this every time he talks about the kingdom he's Yeshua is like saying hey uh it's not here because of you like you need to bring it on and uh and this is scary to me this is a scary verse because this is the time we're living in right now um this is Yeshua saying uh well uh this is uh what is it 60 this is uh sorry this is um uh chapter 9 verse
98:30 - 99:00 68 um said uh there were many among the crowd who said surely this is yahweh's Anointed for whom we have long awaited now we will be delivered according to the promises of the prophets hearing the things said by the people among themselves yahusha was saddened and he said to Bartholomew who stood who stood near him tomorrow they will revert to their old way of life and permit evil to Reign through Hypocrites and self deceivers and this this is the the time
99:00 - 99:30 we're living in right now how can they be brought to understand that should Yahweh intervene to bring about the rule of Elohim Earth and Mankind will will have failed him and be Unworthy of his rule um I just I don't know about you but I know that if it definitely looks like y'all's going to intervene and this world and if he does that means we have failed it means we have failed to bring about the the the rule and when we look
99:30 - 100:00 at these Saints during this time they lived absolutely incredible lives horrible lives horrible lives according to worldly standards yeah but they lost I mean like like I said my wife's really diving into the the Gnostic text you know yeah and it's amazing right I mean they're they're just they're getting murdered for for you know keeping y's ways what you said they're truly like they are taking up their cross their stake and they're following Yeshua to death even to death and we're not even
100:00 - 100:30 you know we're not even like privy to their lives in the gospels you know and you read these books and it's like they wanted the kingdom I mean there was a sense of urgency compelling these disciples to bring on the kingdom it was worth it their life was meaningless they knew it was coming they knew they had to fight for it why would you fight for something that was 2,000 years away yeah who like would you would you might fight a little bit and you're like oh this I'll let my grandkids or my great great great great grandkids worry about it but it's like they were fighting to bring about the kingdom and they did because
100:30 - 101:00 multiple times they got the Kings or the the places where they went they got them to change they converted them and we we see that we see a whole a group of Nations converting Torah converts the soul that's right yeah but but I don't know I read this and I'm like this is scary because we definitely see that Yahweh is going to intervene I I think whether it's a reset event whether it's the end of all things who knows but if he has to re uh if he has to intervene we failed we have a job to do all of us
101:00 - 101:30 listening right now like we have a job to do to bring on the kingdom and it's literally our job to bring it on worthily and how we do that is we fight against evil and how do you know what evil is unless you're keeping the tourah unless you acknowledge the instruction manual to life it's the instruction manual on that point on keeping the instruction manual one thing I I'm actually really glad that this this eclipse is finally behind us now and
101:30 - 102:00 from my ends I was getting texts and phone calls and emails from there was just a high level of paranoia because people are out there listening to the fear porn and they're like this is it no you need to realize that it's all coming to a head right now and I I was on the phone with one individual and I actually multiple and I would ask them after listening to their paranoia for 20 30 minutes I would ask them what do you want me to do about it like what what do you want me to do to change in my life that needs to change to deal
102:00 - 102:30 with this situation and what I was generally finding was that I it seems like a lot of the people because we we're all getting this sense right that something is going to happen something has to give in the direction that we're going in I mean even even non-christians unrighteous people are are seeing something is wrong with the world and um like the saying going to hell in a hand basket right and so what I what I here's the thing
102:30 - 103:00 like when you come over to yah's instructions in righteous living and you realize that the judgment is not for the righteous and actually it's the tears that are taken and it's the righteous that just like Psalm one when it says blessed is the man that Delights in the Torah of Yahweh and on that or yahaha and on that Torah he meditates Day N it says he will be like a tree planted by the water but the wicked are not so they are the cha that are blown away right and you you get this sense time and again that it's the wicked that are taken away and I and I often think that
103:00 - 103:30 a lot of people that have this High paranoia they know this judgment is coming and deep down inside they're not ready they know that they're going to be judged and they don't want the judgment to come they they can point out all the Liberals and all this kind of stuff but they themselves are not at rest in their spirit because they are going to be judged yeah and um and so there's a there's a peace that you know comes over us when we realize that so give it give an example like on the failure right
103:30 - 104:00 well when when Nebuchadnezzar came in and he took out uh when he finally took the the the yahu deem into captivity who do we see left behind we see uh Jeremiah we see baroo we see these people left behind who actually got Nebuchadnezzar actually gave them his purse and he's like take whatever of my money you want to fulfill your mission and so you actually see the righteous though the wicked were taken away but the righteous remain so much so that Jeremiah was able to complete his mission where he up
104:00 - 104:30 uprooted the king of Judah and he planted Israel somewhere else and that's a big question where did he plant it right of course my my thought is Ireland and Britain um that being said that's just an encouragement for everyone out there that if we are living of life according to as you call it the instruction I think you call it the instruction man if we are recognized in that you know we fall short we repent of our transgressions and we we turn to walk as yahusha walked that we can be
104:30 - 105:00 counted amongst the righteous and that the judgment is not coming for us right it's coming for the world we will be left behind to to inherit this Earth um so I'm gonna give you guys what I think is going to happen next because I don't know how much you guys have looked into the moon map and this is of course just for everyone out there is is you know when you look at the the the fact that the Moon is a map of our greater realm you could see the AE map right there that was the selling point for me you could see where uh the uh Maru or moo
105:00 - 105:30 whatever you want to call it Lumia used to be the whole continent and then you could see the whole great North there where the hidden Wilderness is um and the theoretically it takes I think about 26,500 27,000 years for the the sun to move all the way around the moon map on the Zodiac and so the idea is is that in about uh 15,000 years the sun will be circulating on the other side of the earth and this will be in complete
105:30 - 106:00 darkness it'll just be ice and darkness and so I think that there's going to be an and I actually think this explains global warming as well as global cooling because we see numbers we see uh facts going in both directions we see people claiming that the uh the ice is melting and others say it's strengthening which would be the case if the Sun is pushing away and the ice is strengthening in the uh I guess called the East and then it's melting in the west my what I think happens is that we we go through this like 7,000 10,000
106:00 - 106:30 year cycle the world is uh the sun moves back around and then you know 15,000 uh another 30,000 years from now or whatever 27,000 years archaeologists are going to be here showing like this ancient civilization that you know used to be on the earth I don't know if that makes sense to people you know they'll be going like look at these you know these people that lived here you know tens of thousands of years ago and and people are being like nuh they denied and all this kind of stuff but I think
106:30 - 107:00 we I just think we just go through these Cycles over and over and over again we're part of one cycle and then the this side of the realm could be in just darkness and ice for 15,000 years and then it comes back around it starts all over again the whole new creation reset uh events and anyways that's my thought on that I think that's totally possible I mean I I mean I don't I don't have you heard of Edgar Casey uh who was a he was a kind of a prophet back in the 1900s early 1900s yeah I've heard of yeah and
107:00 - 107:30 and he says he says that in the early 2000s there would be a pole shift now I know that's that's with a you know kind of an Globe mindset but what if there is a shift a shift to a different realm you know a shift to where you know like you said like parts of what we know as the world today is under ice and we have a new world to to experience but who who knows but you know like like I think like you said blessed are those who left behind in
107:30 - 108:00 second ezis and I forget the chapter but four times it says those who are left behind are blessed yeah and uh you know you know we've been taught don't be left behind but you know those that closed their doors and waited for the indignation to pass yeah I mean I see I see evidence for both I see evidences uh in scriptural examples where you don't want to be left behind uh great you know great example would be Noah's Noah's Arc or so the the Rapture crowd loves the Sodom and gomorra even though
108:00 - 108:30 like like the lot is just not the best example of who we want to Aspire to in my opinion but um but we do see examples where people are yanked out of a situation and then we see others where they are left behind and the wicked are taken out right so I see I see both um and yeah go ahead no I said that's true yeah yeah um and I I have a lot of questions about that did what happened in uh 66 to 70 AD was were
108:30 - 109:00 there a certain segments like a the the the the top choice of fruits that were actually taken out um of the Earth with the Glorious appearing did he mean he did say that he is coming back to take them to where he was uh and so did he actually come and take some of them with him that's a question that I have I you know I I don't know uh a lot of lot of
109:00 - 109:30 questions no answers on that um so anyways yeah well let's see we're kind of coming up on the end here and this has been great I really appreciate it having you guys on I hope everyone enjoyed this and getting your guys' perspective and um absolutely thank you for having us we're we're out of coffee so yeah I didn't tell you guys this but I started out with cold coffee I'm like this is not a good omen uh for tonight but um I've been sitting here drinking cold coffee the whole time yeah I'll
109:30 - 110:00 take cold coffee over no coffee anytime that's true that's true count my blessings anyways so you guys are the Fig Tree generation that's where everyone can come and watch you guys and sign up there and I don't think we got to this uh but the Fig Tree generation we do believe the Fig Tree generation has happened that generation uh but it's definite like we just said that the uh it's cyclical and we we it seems like we
110:00 - 110:30 are seeing the uh the budding of the Fig Tree and summer is nine again uh now you know I do believe there was a fig tree generation but anyways I just wanted to like say that because we you know we are fig Tre generation you know yeah and I have to point this out really great points uh that prophecy is cyclical it it is repeated over and over and over again we see the same happening and so one of the questions I get asked all I get asked so much I'm like like why like
110:30 - 111:00 people like well the mark of the beast you're saying no that the mark of the beast is uh already happened so does that mean I could take it now I'm just like no no there's never a time when you could take the mark of the beast never don't don't do it so uh it's yeah all right so anyways next week next week you guys are going to on that notes next week uh maybe both of you maybe just you Jim I'm not really sure uh coming on and looking forward to doing Tor portions
111:00 - 111:30 with you guys I had a great conversation tonight thank you again for coming on thank you everybody for coming by I hope you guys enjoyed your uh time here and any last words thanks no thanks for the opportunity Shalom yeah we'll see you next week all right see you guys next shalom