Request - Karmelo Culture

Summary

In a recent discussion on 'Here with Gold,' Martin Goldberg delves into the concept of 'Carmelo Culture.' The conversation critiques media portrayals of race, societal reactions to violence, and the complex dynamics of racial identity. Goldberg navigates the sensitive topics of white privilege, race relations, and historical social practices with a controversial and candid tone, questioning cultural narratives while exploring past and present social ideologies.

Highlights

• The term 'Carmelo Culture' is buzzing on social media and conjuring varied responses. 👀
• Goldberg critiques the idea of white privilege, suggesting its broader misunderstandings. 🤔
• The discussion touches on contentious views regarding race, aggression, and historical contexts. 🔥
• Media portrayal of races affects public perception and often exacerbates stereotypes. 📺
• There's a connection between past social practices and present race relations challenges. 🔗

Key Takeaways

• Carmelo Culture stirs up significant debate on social media with varying perspectives. 📱
• White privilege exists but is not always understood in the same way by everyone. 🚦
• There are controversial views on race and aggression that tap into historical ideologies. 📚
• Goldberg highlights media portrayals that shape racial perceptions, sometimes contentiously. 🎥
• There's a historical context to racial identity and integration efforts that still resonates today. ⏳

Overview

Martin Goldberg explores the phenomenon he dubs 'Carmelo Culture,' capturing the whirlwind of opinions that have erupted on social platforms. He addresses its complexity by reflecting on historical context, current societal norms, and the diverse perspectives shaping these discussions. The debate is inflamed by media portrayals and inherent biases, which Goldberg doesn't shy away from challenging.

Within this dialogue, Goldberg navigates the contentious territory of white privilege and its manifestations in today's world. He critiques various viewpoints, from those claiming it's a tool for maintaining power illusions to its deeper-rooted societal implications. This take is coupled with a nod to past mechanisms where racial identity has been a tool for both division and integration, unraveling threads that continue to weave through modern-day society.

The interplay of media influence, racial dynamics, and societal expectations is a focal point throughout Goldberg's narrative. He seeks to dissect the portrayal of different races in media and how these depictions can skew public perception. Drawing from historical examples, Goldberg discusses how integration efforts in the past mirror today's ongoing dialogues about race, identity, and equality. His evaluation raises provocative questions about nurturing understanding versus ingrained stereotypes.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction to Carmelo Culture The chapter titled 'Introduction to Carmelo Culture' addresses the recent social media discussions around Carmelo Culture. There are conflicting opinions on the topic: some predict chaotic events ('Helter Skelter event'), while others believe it's an orchestrated effort to challenge Second Amendment rights. These discourses reflect the ongoing debates about the interpretation and restriction of the Second Amendment, which, according to some, has been compromised since the era of President Franklin D. Roosevelt (FDR).
• 00:30 - 01:00: Second Amendment Discussion The chapter delves into the role of the Second Amendment in American society. It argues that the presence of the amendment serves as a psychological tool for the right-wing, giving them an illusion of power and control. The discussion suggests that this illusion prevents them from realizing their potential lack of actual power. An anecdote is mentioned about a racially charged altercation at a track meet, where a white individual confronts a minority, highlighting underlying social tensions.
• 01:00 - 01:30: Stabbing Incident Narrative The chapter discusses a stabbing incident where an individual was stabbed in the chest and died. The police report suggests that it was not a case of self-defense, despite some community claims to the contrary. This discrepancy in views may reflect broader societal debates, possibly criticizing 'soy liberalism' for promoting the notion that simply hearing facts should guide judgment. It highlights that certain segments of the population might adhere strongly to preconceived beliefs even when facts suggest otherwise.
• 01:30 - 02:00: Community Reactions and White Privilege The chapter discusses community reactions to events involving different racial backgrounds, focusing on incidents in Georgia, specifically mentioning 'Sha or the Booger boys' and the 'Mcichels'.
• 02:00 - 02:30: Austin Kid's Assumptions This chapter delves into the assumptions held by a character referred to as Austin Kid, who apparently believes in the notion of benevolent paternalism or white saviorism being welcomed by people of color. It discusses the common misconception that appealing to the better nature of people of color through performative gestures like expressions of camaraderie or reconciliation can resolve deeper issues. The narrative suggests a skepticism towards the superficiality of such interactions, implying that while Austin Kid might be decent, his assumptions might be misguided.
• 02:30 - 03:00: Lessons from Past Incidents This chapter, titled 'Lessons from Past Incidents,' delves into the unpredictable nature of personal confrontations. It emphasizes that while some individuals may carry themselves with a certain charisma or confidence, believing their presence alone can defuse tensions, reality can often be starkly different. The narrative hints at a past incident involving a high-profile individual, Kanye, to illustrate how situations can escalate. It warns that in scenarios where individuals are prepared to resort to extreme violence over minor slights, traditional negotiation tactics or assumptions of harmless outcomes are futile. It serves as a cautionary tale about the need for awareness and understanding of the potential severity in interpersonal conflicts.
• 03:00 - 03:30: Knife vs. Gun Safety The chapter 'Knife vs. Gun Safety' emphasizes the importance of safety and distance when faced with a potential knife threat. It recounts an incident involving a man in New York who was stabbed while trying to calm down a situation, highlighting the unpredictability and danger of knife encounters. The narrative underscores the advice given by retired police officers: to retreat and maintain distance if a knife is involved, and to preferably be armed with a gun for protection.
• 03:30 - 04:00: Middle Class Black Experience The chapter discusses the surprising lethality of knife wounds, emphasizing that they can be more fatal than gunshot wounds. It dispels movie myths about casually handling knife attacks with martial arts. The speaker warns against underestimating knives and offers advice to avoid playing around with them. The narrative then shifts focus, indicating a personal connection to the middle class black experience through a side job that involves interaction with middle class black individuals.
• 04:00 - 04:30: Books and Theories on Aggression This chapter discusses theories on aggression, focusing on societal behaviors and the differences in impulse control. It emphasizes the importance of not generalizing behaviors across different groups. The chapter also touches upon individual reactions and the broader societal implications using references like the '10,000-year explosion'.
• 04:30 - 05:00: Historical Context of Aggression The chapter 'Historical Context of Aggression' discusses controversial claims regarding a gene that is believed to increase aggression among some people of African descent. Additionally, it touches upon historical practices in the US where slaves were selectively bred for their physical strength. The chapter also hints at discussions around testosterone levels and the complexities associated with these biological and historical perspectives.
• 05:00 - 05:30: Observations on Racial Behavior This chapter explores the observations on racial behavior, particularly focusing on the concept that higher testosterone levels in certain individuals may lead to increased aggression and violence. The transcript discusses anecdotal evidence rather than scientific proof, suggesting that behavioral observations can substantiate claims about racial behaviors. The narrative delves into personal observations relating to people of African and European descent, hinting at visible distinctions in behavior and appearance among different racial groups.
• 05:30 - 06:00: Challenges with Modernity The chapter 'Challenges with Modernity' explores the complexities of racial and ethnic identities in the modern world. It delves into historical lineage and cultural exchanges among different peoples, focusing on perceptions of heritage in regions like the Netherlands, Portugal, the Middle East, and South Asia. The narrative touches on personal experiences and anecdotes, illustrating how global interactions have influenced contemporary social fabrics.
• 06:00 - 06:30: Debates on Integration and Assimilation The chapter titled 'Debates on Integration and Assimilation' delves into discussions surrounding societal changes and personal anecdotes relating to differing cultural perspectives. It includes a narrative about a blue-collar worker who becomes a stay-at-home dad, influenced by his wife, and the dynamics of his liberal viewpoints, particularly in a conversation involving racial stereotypes between individuals of different backgrounds. This instance exemplifies the ongoing challenges and dialogues about integration versus assimilation in multicultural settings.
• 06:30 - 07:00: Portrayals of Black People in Media The chapter titled 'Portrayals of Black People in Media' addresses the challenges related to certain stereotypes and negative portrayals of black people in the media. It highlights a problematic view where some individuals perceive a subset of the population as incompatible with modern society. This is illustrated through a reference to a brawl on a Carnival cruise, which is depicted as abnormal behavior over minor disagreements. Furthermore, a controversial suggestion of relocating such individuals to African countries is discussed, noting the impracticability due to financial constraints and potential threats of violence in those countries. The conversation underlines the complexities and dangers of perpetuating simplistic or harmful narratives about black individuals in media.
• 07:00 - 07:30: Interracial Relationships in Media The chapter discusses various perspectives on interracial relationships, focusing on controversial and incendiary statements about American black people made by Africans. The narrative touches on the dynamics and opinions within different social classes, particularly highlighting the divide between general sentiments and those of the middle class. Additionally, it hints at extreme and radical ideas proposed by right-wing groups regarding segregation and reservation of African Americans, emphasizing the disturbing nature of some views reminiscent of historical atrocities.
• 07:30 - 08:00: Echoes from Historical Contexts This chapter explores the influence of digital personas and foreign influencers posing as nationalists online, questioning their authenticity and credibility. It critiques the motives behind their content, suggesting that many may simply be driven by the pursuit of online popularity rather than genuine investment in the socio-political landscape. It raises concerns about the long-term implications of such activities on a nation's progress, especially when the discourse becomes polarizing due to socially disagreeable elements.
• 08:00 - 08:30: Racial Dynamics in Brazil The chapter discusses the varying perspectives on racial issues in Brazil, contrasting liberal approaches like increasing education and job training with conservative views advocating for free-market education. The author suggests both approaches may be ineffective and expresses a desire to discuss deeper racial dynamics, possibly hinting at personal or ideological biases within these discussions. The chapter reflects on how racial discourse is framed by different groups, including extreme perspectives.
• 08:30 - 09:00: Class Structures and Race in Brazil The chapter explores the portrayal of black males in mainstream media, highlighting a trend towards unrealistic characterizations. It critiques the media for often reducing black males to stereotypes of athleticism and intellectualism, while failing to provide nuanced representations. The text suggests that more compelling and realistic portrayals are typically found in black media. Additionally, there is a critique of how society uses media and consumer culture to distract the public with brands and products, such as Nikes and Hennessy, rather than addressing deeper social issues. This reflects on the broader theme of class structures and racial dynamics in Brazil.
• 09:00 - 09:30: Miscegenation and Social Norms The chapter discusses the depiction of interracial relationships and social norms in media, specifically focusing on commercials and shows since the death of George Floyd. The narrative notes an increase in pairing 'normie' white men with black women in advertisements and highlights a trend of featuring strong, butch black women in these contexts. It references Tyler Perry's show Green Leaf and suggests these trends may be a natural outcome of societal changes.
• 09:30 - 10:00: Economic Implications of Race Mixing This chapter discusses the portrayal of interracial relationships in media, specifically critiquing how race mixing is represented in certain movies. The author argues against stereotypes and perceptions in the movies, mentioning films like the Conjuring, the Sonic movie, and the Wicked movie as examples where relationships are depicted in ways that seem inconsistent with their expectations or realities.
• 10:00 - 10:30: History of Race Mixing in America This chapter discusses the portrayal of race mixing in media, specifically focusing on a character in a fictional narrative. The speaker critiques the casting choice, emphasizing that their issue is not with the character's race but with the physical appearance and suitability of the actress in the role. They suggest alternative actresses for dubbing the character's voice if singing talent is the main criterion, indicating an ongoing tension in media representations of race mixing and beauty standards.
• 10:30 - 11:00: Final Reflections on Social Issues This chapter, titled "Final Reflections on Social Issues," reflects on the representation of characters in media. The discussion suggests that producers may often choose characters that are 'easy on the eyes' for audiences, which evokes the controversial response similar to the 'Jar Jar Binks phenomenon' in "Star Wars," attributed to George Lucas. The chapter delves into opinions within some communities, particularly among some nationalist groups ('WigNats'), who interpret these casting choices as an attempt to erase black representation in media. The chapter provides insight into different perspectives within discussions about media representation and possible underlying social issues.

Request - Karmelo Culture Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 Welcome back to here with Gold. Today I'll be talking about Carmelo Culture and this has been in the news. Well, I wouldn't say the news, mainly social media, which is one of the reasons why a number of people have been going, "Oh, it's going to be a Helter Skelter event." They always do this. Um, but then there's others that go, "No, they're trying to fment a struggle to take away our Second Amendment rights." It's like, that's even funnier because the Second Amendment has been infringed since at least FDR. And these people are
• 00:30 - 01:00 always laring. I've said before it's more effective for them to have the Second Amendment in place because it persuades all these paranoid, delusional right-wingers that they actually have power when in reality, you know, they'd probably roll over if anyone showed up at their door. As the story goes, there was a track meet. The brother was under a tent and the white kid said, "You're not supposed to be here. There's an altercation." and the white dude got
• 01:00 - 01:30 stabbed in the chest and died. From what I've seen as far as the police report goes, it was definitely not self-defense, although many in the community are claiming it in fact was. And perhaps that's an indictment of soy liberalism because the idea holds that we're supposed to just hear facts and you make that judgment. Perhaps a larger proportion of the cream cheese population had that view when it came to
• 01:30 - 02:00 Sha or the Booger boys in Georgia, the Mcichels. Although part of that could have just been because of cultural pressure. Obviously, those stories were getting far more attention in the mainstream than this one. I would suggest to you that the younger white generations are far more aware on a level that many black people may be seeing things through the lens of race. We definitely need to talk about the concept of white privilege cuz I believe it exists but not in the way that others
• 02:00 - 02:30 conceive. You see, a lot of cream cheese types make the assumption that this form of benevolent paternalism or white saviorism is going to be welcomed. But you can appeal to the better nature of these POC types. You can do the coach LFA routine. Hey bro, let's talk it out. Take a knee. And you do your recriminations back and forth and there's a bro hug. And everyone leaves happy. I suspect this Austin kid, decent
• 02:30 - 03:00 looking, he's athletic, probably had something of an aura around him where he can have that effect on others and he assumes the same will play out. At worst, what's going to happen? They're going to get down and wrestle. Kind of like Kanye did with his cousin. But you are not on the same wavelength. Realistically speaking, if someone's prepared to stab another over a bad name or being disrespected or something minor that you'd maybe swing a few punches, you can't negotiate, right? Remember
• 03:00 - 03:30 that liberal guy in New York a couple years back? He was with his communist Hispanic girlfriend waiting for an Uber or a bus and the brother was spuring out on the sidewalk and he's like, "Hey, let's come on. Calm down. It's gonna be fine." He got knifed. By the way, folks, if you think someone might have a knife or they draw a knife, I was just recently talking to a couple of retired cops. They said, "Get the hell away. preferably have a gun, but you know, put distance between the two of you because
• 03:30 - 04:00 a knife wound, even if it's in a supposedly non-critical area, will kill you a lot faster than even some gunshots, strangely enough. And a lot of people watch movies and think, "Oh, I'm going to do some karate move." At the very least, you're probably getting your arm slashed up, but there's a good chance you're dead. So, don't play around with knives. That's uh my piece of advice. A part of me, I think it's tragedy because I my side hustle, I work with a lot of middle class black people
• 04:00 - 04:30 and know they're not going to draw a knife on you because you bumped into them or something stupid. They actually have impulse control. I don't like putting everyone in the same box, even though maybe you'd say those folks would be supportive secretly of someone like Carmelo Anthony. I just I'm stating it because that's my experience. It's not like some attempt to virtue signal because it's not winning me any points one way or the other. But with that being said, and I know this is going to be a angry type of picture, the books 10,000-year explosion
• 04:30 - 05:00 and the troublesome inheritance, they both make the claim that some people of African descent carry a gene which may enhance their propensity towards aggression. Now, there's also the dynamic where when they would reproduce some of the slaves in the US, they might take the most masculine men and women because they wanted the strongest specimens. So, could that also play a role? See, that's the whole dynamic. Oh, testosterone levels are falling. We need to boost testosterone. Well, it's not guaranteed,
• 05:00 - 05:30 but higher testosterone can lead to propensity for violence in some cases. I would say I've seen this with the world eternal though, and someone's going, "Wow, a Goldberg, there's no actual evidence for macro evolution." Yeah, you just have to look at people and pay attention to their behavior. You don't have to have some nuance theory or whatever it comes down to because I've seen it with some African descent population. I've seen it with some Euros. Like there are some weird looking
• 05:30 - 06:00 Dutch people and definitely Portuguese many look like back in the day their great great-grandmother was betting down with a Cookabara or maybe one of Tim Treadwell's friends. Just saying. Uh obviously the Middle East, South Asia, not so much East Asia that I've encountered, but perhaps it does exist. Hell, I can't remove myself from contention because back when I worked retail, we were in the little register section of our department. And there was a dude from South Asia, but not from India, one of the better South Asian
• 06:00 - 06:30 countries. And this one dude who he had been a bluecollar worker, but then his wife turned him into a stay-at-home dad. And I think his daughter became trans or something, but he was a big liberal. And the guy from South Asia looks to me and he says, "Ah, you have ears like monkey." And I was like, "Well, that's pretty rich coming from you cuz you were born in the land of the ma." And the liberal guy goes, "Don't you say it." So it'll exist to some extent. I don't know what to tell you. Of course, people will
• 06:30 - 07:00 go, "How do you solve this problem of that subset of the population that they're not going to be able to wrangle with modernity no matter what? You just saw that brawl on the Carnival cruise lines. That's not normal behavior over uh minor disagreements, but it happens. And so they go, "Well, you can remove them to the motherland." The problem with that is that these African countries don't have the money to prop them up. So they're either going to starve or the Africans are going to, you know, put them to the machete. And
• 07:00 - 07:30 probably the most incendiary wasist things I've heard about American black people have come from Africans. So, I wouldn't put it past them. The alternative, the most humane seems to be to place them on reservations in the United States. And again, the ones that are actually this way and not talking about the middle class people, but they're, you know, are you okay with that outcome? Because these co remigration this that the other. A lot of these right-wingers act like there's some kind of Einzot group
• 07:30 - 08:00 and leader, but you have to wonder, are they just pushing this to get clicks online? They have no skin in the game whatsoever. like many of them have actually been unmasked and they're not even American. They're like from India and they're pretending to be some base nationalist. So, uh yeah, that's a complicated question to say the least. But on a long enough timeline, I just don't see how a country is going to be able to advance when you have this subset that is so socially disagreeable. So, you're going to have to you whatever
• 08:00 - 08:30 put them on reservations or I mean the liberals say increase funding for education and job training. The conservatives say teach them about free markets and being a Trump cell. I don't know. I think either of those probably are bound to fail, but you let me know. I could be off the mark. But who cares about all that? I wanted to use this video as an excuse to talk about a subject that I've been meaning to mention in the past. So if you ask your typical cohort of wignnats, they'll tell you people like myself, we have the sadistical agenda to promote certain
• 08:30 - 09:00 couplings and commercials in the media so we can dumb down society and fob everyone off with Nikes and Hennessy. And indeed, to an extent, it's rare for you to see a realistic portrayal of a black male in the mainstream. It's typically super athletic, desired by all the women, high IQ, but also progressive feminist, not a misogynist in any shape whatsoever. The only place you'll see compelling portrayals of black people will be in black media at this point.
• 09:00 - 09:30 The Tyler Perry stuff, the show uh Green Leaf is actually pretty good. I watched at least one season of that. Now, I will say that since George Floyd, I've noticed more of them placing normie white dudes with sisters in commercials and even some shows. Now, that's perhaps just a normal byproduct of this whole trend, but I also picked up on the fact that they tend to put these very butch black women. So, the
• 09:30 - 10:00 Conjuring three, if I'm not mistaken, he goes to college and he meets this lesbian black chick and starts dating her. It's like come on, he would get a feminine middle class black woman, not a sheniqua. Just saying. There's exceptions like the Sonic movie, Tikica Sumpter, but apparently a lot of black manurans got angry over that couple, him. Was it Scott Marsden or something like that recently? I watched the Wicked movie. Yes, I know. And I say watched, I fast forwarded through it because it was terrible. But they were
• 10:00 - 10:30 trying to make us believe that the main witch girl was getting the attention of the Chad. And I'm like, look, it's not the fact that she's black. It's that that particular girl, Cynthia, whatever, has got an extremely repugnant face on screen, especially in green makeup. I would be looking at her, she's got the big teeth and nose, and I'm like, come on. If she's a good singer, then put like a Tikica Sumpter or a Natalie Emanuel and have her dub it because it's important
• 10:30 - 11:00 to have characters on screen that are easy on the eyes. That's kind of the point. But these producers are just like, it's the whole Jar Binks phenomena. I blame George Lucas for this. He's like, "Oh, screw you for not accepting me. Gungans. I thought I called Gungas. What are you going to do?" But that is the take of the WigNats. Now, there's a subset of the commun where they claim no, it's quite the opposite. The reason why they put all these couplings is because they're trying to erase visibly looking black
• 11:00 - 11:30 people and replace them with this mexification strategy where you have black people, they're lighter skin, they've got bluer green eyes, they're less threatening to the white gays. And so, maybe a year or so back, I was on a Hallmark film binge. Not that again I seriously watch them, but it's more like, you know, white noise. And this is one that stood out. A fashionably yours cat Graham and this guy who's like a brother version of Paul Walker. Perhaps
• 11:30 - 12:00 that's what they're going for. They want this idea that's the representative of black people on screen. I I think it's an interesting contrast of sorts that we can kind of hash out. And you may say, well, but that's not true. Actually, there's some historical basis for this, strangely enough. So, we'll get into it. After the slave uprising in Haiti, which shook the world to a great extent because a lot of these French people were put to the sword, there was concern not just in the United States, but also
• 12:00 - 12:30 in Brazil because Brazil imported, I believe, the highest number of slaves period in the New World. And they were going, if we have all these people and they develop some kind of political identity, that's a problem. The first solution was to import the high Europeans, Scandinavians and Germans in particular, but they would bring them to the plantation and they would treat them just about as bad as the slaves. As such, European authorities started saying, "No, you're
• 12:30 - 13:00 not going to take those populations." And though ones that would end up coming were from poor nations such as Spain, Portugal, Italy, and even, you know, Syria and Lebanon. Well, that helps to an extent, but it's still not adequate. It doesn't put you in the position of the United States where you have a clear delineation distinction between the groups. And as such, they began a process where they went to these Marios and a you need to start tapping these West African onion
• 13:00 - 13:30 booties. And what would happen is the offspring of those unions, they didn't have the ability to, let's say, run the entire government department, but they could have a relatively decent mid-level position in the military. They could be non-com officers, not the full-fledged commission, but they also wouldn't be stuck like the Africans at the very bottom. And it was a process of essentially dividing and conquering because now you have this group of people who are aspiring to be members of
• 13:30 - 14:00 the elite. based upon how much resources they acrew and who they marry. And it undermines the ability of all these to say we have one Afrobrazilian identity. As such, you really haven't had a clear-cut civil rights movement in Brazil on the level of the United States. And to this day, Afrob Brazilians tend to be on the poor side, live in the fllas. And you want to talk about police brutality, you definitely see that in Brazil. To give you an example of this, this is, I believe,
• 14:00 - 14:30 Ronaldo Ronaldino, one of the footballers. He said in an interview that he identifies as white. Now, most people in the US would say this dude is Hispanic, maybe even a brother. His father was really pissed off. He said, "No, you are of African descent." But it shows you how those social norms can operate. In fact, when Mikuel or Michelle Tamer became president of Brazil, all the media was going, "Oh, it's a cabinet full of white men. And you look at these white men and you're
• 14:30 - 15:00 like, really? They all look like Arabs. But that's how these class structures emerged in uh in South America. And even with the Spanish, like when the first Spaniards arrived, many of them didn't want to get with the Indian women. They were requesting that Spanish women be sent over. And it had to be like a a real push on the part of the Catholic Church and the governments to get them to start betting down with the indigenous. I suspect something similar would have occurred even if the South had won the Civil War because you make
• 15:00 - 15:30 the claim they would have sent them back. But that's actually costly. Slavery in the first place was introduced to prevent the poor white people from organizing and getting higher wages. But even if you legalize slavery, as the South would have inevitably had to do, you can pay the blacks less. And that was one of the benefits. Even the great migrations, one of the reasons they brought them in is because they could actually dole out lower wages. You see how this kind of germinated. Now, early stages of the
• 15:30 - 16:00 United States history, there were French Catholic leaders who were huge advocates of mixing. They said it was going to create a stronger diversity society. Uh not saying that that's common with Catholics at all. As we know, the Catholic Church has not been pushing that throughout history and doesn't continue to push that. Absolutely not. In the case of Louisiana, New Orleans, there was a shortage of women and they did try to bring some over. There's a whole legend about how some of these women committed suicide or were killed and their ghosts haunt the
• 16:00 - 16:30 region. But a number of men started actually taking the mixed women or even some black women and marrying them like upper classmen. That's why you developed this strange system, the quadrron, the octaroons and all that where your status was based upon your overall blood position. So it can happen if nothing else from a position of practicality. Much like you see all these wignats who complain about diversity and then you know they switch off the computer and
• 16:30 - 17:00 they're sitting there with their jungle Asian wife. I don't know what to tell you. It's just really interesting to see how human history has played out. But let me know what you think. Do you do you believe the Wignats are correct as far as the Care Bear agenda? Are these people in the community correct? Maybe they're both wrong. And what do you think about the Carmelo Anthony case? Is it a question where it's more of the nurture? You need better education, more funding. Is it nature? Is it something that can be dealt with by just getting
• 17:00 - 17:30 people to, you know, smoke the peace pipe and do a brohog? or are we going to need a more significant solution socially speaking?