The Bachelor in Global Engineering from Centrale Supélec and McGill

Summary

In this engaging podcast episode, Frank, the Dean at CentraleSupélec, discusses the new Bachelor of Global Engineering program, a collaboration between CentraleSupélec in France and McGill University in Canada. This unique program offers students the opportunity to graduate with two diplomas - one from each prestigious institution - and provides a blend of rigorous academic training with practical industry engagement. The conversation covers the program’s structure, its admission process, and the exciting opportunities it offers to a diverse student body from around the globe.

Highlights

• Frank from CentraleSupélec introduces their global engineering bachelor in partnership with McGill 🎙️.
• This program is geared towards offering expansive engineering education internationally 🌟.
• Students have the benefit of dual degrees, opening more diverse career paths 👨‍🎓👩‍🎓.
• There are opportunities for scholarships, making it accessible to a wide range of students 💰.
• The collaborative nature of the program enriches academic and social experience, bridging Franco-Canadian cultures 🤝.

Key Takeaways

• CentraleSupélec and McGill offer a unique dual-degree program, creating highly versatile graduates 🌍.
• Students spend the first two years in France and the remainder in Canada, providing a rich international experience 🇫🇷🇨🇦.
• The program is designed to offer a broad engineering education before specialization, helping students explore their interests thoroughly 🔍.
• The application process requires submissions to both institutions, reflecting the program's dual nature 🎓.
• Generous scholarships and diverse international cohorts enhance the learning and cultural experience 💸🤝.

Overview

In a fascinating discussion, Frank, the Dean of Undergraduate and Graduate Studies at CentraleSupélec, sheds light on their novel Bachelor of Global Engineering. This program is a dynamic partnership between the prestigious French and Canadian institutions: CentraleSupélec and McGill University. Frank shares insights on how this dual-degree option guarantees a well-rounded education, integrating technical mastery with rich international exposure.

The podcast dives deep into how students navigate through the rigorous curriculum over four years, starting in France and concluding in Canada. The flexibility in choosing specializations after a solid foundation is laid makes the program stand out, offering students a chance to explore various engineering fields before committing to one. Frank emphasizes that alongside academic pursuits, students benefit from vital industry interactions through internships and collaborations.

Admissions into this impressive program involve applying separately to both institutions reflecting its dual-integrated nature. With a focus on attracting a global cohort, the program values diversity and offers substantial financial support through scholarships. This pioneering education model prepares graduates not just for engineering challenges but also for global citizenship, crafting professionals ready to innovate across borders.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction and Welcome The chapter titled 'Introduction and Welcome' is the opening of the Anywhere Uni Live Podcast. The host welcomes the audience and introduces the guest, Frank, who is the Dean of Undergraduate and Graduate Studies at SUPERC in France. The discussion is set to revolve around the new Bachelor of Global Engineering program offered by SUPERC in collaboration with an institution in Canada. Frank expresses gratitude for the invitation and mentions their happiness at seeing the first cohorts of students entering the program.
• 00:30 - 01:00: English-speaking Engineering Options in France The chapter discusses the increasing interest and excitement among students regarding English-speaking engineering programs in France. These programs offer alternatives that differ from the traditional French options. The chapter aims to provide detailed information and insights about how these programs function and the application process involved. It begins with a request for the speaker to introduce themselves.
• 01:00 - 01:30: Professor Frank's Role at Centrale Supélec Professor Frank discusses his role at Centrale Supélec, where he manages and develops multiple bachelor programs. These programs cater to a diverse range of objectives and students from various countries, making it a complex but rewarding task.
• 02:00 - 02:30: History and Evolution of Centrale Supélec The chapter discusses a new position at Centrale Supélec, established to develop new programs. This position was created two years ago and aims to attract students globally. It is described as challenging and motivating. The emergence of these new programs at Centrale Supélec is characterized as exciting.
• 03:00 - 03:30: Integration with University Paris-Saclay **Chapter Title:** Integration with University Paris-Saclay **Summary:** In this chapter, the discussion revolves around the historical background of an institution referred to as S, likely in relation to its connection with the University Paris-Saclay. The chapter delves into the age-old history of S, highlighting its origins from engineering institutions established two centuries ago in France. The focus further shifts towards the undergraduate degrees offered by S, specifically discussing whether offering Bachelor degrees is a new aspect of the institution or part of a long-standing tradition.
• 04:00 - 04:30: The Dual Bachelor Degree Program with McGill The Dual Bachelor Degree Program with McGill begins by highlighting the foundational purpose of a particular engineering school, initiated at the start of the 19th century. This institution was established with the core mission to equip students with the necessary skills to become engineers specifically for the industry. Unlike other schools that provided engineers for public institutions, this school focused on training graduates to join engineering companies. Their goal was to manage factories and develop new technologies, marking a unique approach during that era. Originally known as Central par then Super, the school has been pivotal in shaping engineers who could cater to the needs of industrial advancements.
• 05:00 - 06:00: Program Structure and Global Engineering Concept The chapter discusses the evolution of an educational institution focused on energy and electrical engineering. Initially, it was a graduate school specializing in these subjects. The chapter highlights the recent introduction of an undergraduate program as part of its educational offerings, reflecting a shift in the traditional engineer training approach in France.
• 07:00 - 08:00: Application Process and Student Experience This chapter describes the recent developments and partnerships at central super, including the creation of a new institution called University Parisle. Located 20 kilometers south of Paris, central super is the engineering school of the University Paris. The chapter highlights the range of programs available, covering everything from Bachelor's to Master's programs.
• 11:00 - 12:00: Selection Criteria and International Student Demographics The chapter discusses the integration of engineering degrees and executive education programs within Paris SLE, highlighting their presence in the central part of the university near the presidency. This integration brings together various educational programs, from Bachelor's to Executive Education, under one institution, improving global visibility and rankings.
• 14:00 - 14:30: Housing and Campus Environment The chapter discusses the advantages of merging institutions into larger conglomerates to enhance their ranking and visibility. It highlights the benefits for engineering students who can now collaborate more easily with other disciplines, such as medicine. This interdisciplinary collaboration is especially beneficial in fields like biomedical engineering, illustrating the convenience and potential of being part of a larger academic community.
• 16:00 - 16:30: Admission Process and Criteria The chapter discusses the strong collaborations that have developed within Paris, particularly in the fields of Biology, Medicine, and Computer Sciences. This interdisciplinary approach has significant implications for the development of Engineering in France. Although there are existing collaborative programs, such as a Dual Degree program, it's unclear from the transcript if these collaborations have led to the establishment of standalone Bachelor's degrees by the involved institutions.
• 24:00 - 25:00: Tuition Fees and Scholarships The chapter discusses tuition fees and scholarships, focusing on Cal University's diploma programs. It highlights the Global Engineering program, which offers joint diplomas, including a central suc diploma and a Bachelor of Engineering from Meg. These programs are accredited by the ministry.
• 31:00 - 31:30: Program Completion and Opportunities After Graduation This chapter discusses the educational path that leads to attaining the title of engineer in France. It highlights the necessity of completing a Master's level education to achieve this title. The chapter further explores how undergraduate degrees are positioned in the market and the typical career trajectories students pursue after completing these degrees. There is a focus on whether students proceed directly to engineering roles or use the undergraduate degree as a stepping stone to further education.
• 53:00 - 54:00: Open Days and Closing The chapter titled 'Open Days and Closing' discusses a significant shift in mindset regarding education in France. The focus is on recognizing a bachelor's degree as a standard international level qualification, as opposed to the traditional lense of engineering degrees. It reflects the intent to develop educational programs in collaboration with international institutions such as MH, to align with global standards and enhance the level of bachelor's education.

The Bachelor in Global Engineering from Centrale Supélec and McGill Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 hi everyone welcome to the anywhere uni live podcast tonight I'm delighted to be with Frank the dean of undergraduate and Graduate Studies at s superc in France and we're going to talk tonight about the the the new uh Bachelor of Global Engineering from s and mill in Canada hi Frank how are you doing hi thank you for having invited us now it's we're very happy to to have you we um we see like the first cohorts of students getting into your program and every year I see
• 00:30 - 01:00 more and more uh students being really excited to find English speaking options um in France in engineering uh and and options that you know are different from what we are used to we used to see in uh in in France so we're really happy to have a bit more info more insights on how this program works and the application process so we're going to cover all that uh together T next all right thank you so um could you just briefly introduce yourself what do you
• 01:00 - 01:30 do at and what's your role with the This Global Bal in Global Engineering so I'm uh Professor atal sub um I am in charge of uh managing and developing all the bachelor programs uh since we have several Bachelor programs with different objectives different uh people coming from different countries um it's quite quite
• 01:30 - 02:00 new position at Central superx because we developed these programs two years ago uh so it's a a new position and we have very large objectives to develop new programs to welcome students from all around the world so it's uh it's quite very challenging and and very motivating position yeah this is the this is very uh very exciting to see these new programs U um appearing um so
• 02:00 - 02:30 could you introduce us to S as an institution historically where it come from um did you always offer B degrees is it new and what type of undergraduate uh degree do you offer because as at any way we focus on undergraduate U studies yeah has a very long long story uh it comes from institution that uh are two centuries uh old uh in France engineering institution work created at
• 02:30 - 03:00 the beginning of the 19th century uh really with the DNA of providing um Engineers for industry uh we had school providing Engineers for a public institutions but we were created to uh to train students to become engineering companies in order to manage factories to develop new technologies so we we were called Central par then Super for
• 03:00 - 03:30 all the the all the topics linked to Energy electrical energy and then we merg these two institution to become Central super that's why we have this the stuns and we used to be really a graduate school we used to have only graduate programs uh this is the way we train Engineers uh in France and we started undergraduate program uh just a
• 03:30 - 04:00 couple of years ago uh and at this time we also created a new institution called University parisle and this is really a strong strength we we have in in central super is we are part of university Paris we are located south to Paris 20 kilom South to Paris and we are the engineering school of the University Paris so now we have all the programs from Bachelors we have Master programs
• 04:00 - 04:30 we have engineer degrees and we have also Executive Education so now we within Paris SLE we are really in the heart of the University uh we share the same buildings than the the presidency of the university and we have all the programs uh in engineering from Bachelor to Executive Education yeah that that's very exciting to see these all these schools kind of coming together under the same institution because in term of global visibility for ranking Etc I
• 04:30 - 05:00 think it's it's great uh for France to have these bigger conglomerate of institution that can have can climb in the in the ranking inv visibility and it's all also very very interesting for engineering students because we now we can much more easily collaborates with other disciplines uh like uh medicine for example we have lot of application of engineering engineering to biomedicines so it's very very convenient to be part of
• 05:00 - 05:30 Paris really to cover all the fields of knowledge we could not uh cover all these fields within s and now we have strong collaboration within Paris With Biology with medicine with Computer Sciences so it's it's really really interesting also for the developing of Engineering in France so do you have your own Bachelor degrees like fullon Bachelor degrees or do you only have the program the Dual Bor agree with Mel no
• 05:30 - 06:00 we we have at Cal super we have a diploma The Bachelor with the the accreditation of the of the ministry and we have different tracks to get these this depla so for now the the main track is this Global Engineering program and in this program we we delivered two diplomas the central suc diploma and The Bachelor of engineering from Meg so it's really a join programs
• 06:00 - 06:30 where you have at the end uh two diplomas in France uh to to get the title of engineer you still need to go to all the way to the Master's level uh so how would you place these undergraduate degrees uh in the in the because yeah in the in the markets how does it work what do students do afterwards uh do they mostly try to get that engineering type afterwards or is it just a stepping
• 06:30 - 07:00 stone to do potentially something else that's really a change of uh of mindset in France uh really we we have now to think as a bachelor has its it's common at the international level so uh it's not a lense it's not an engineer degree it's really a bachelor that's why we wanted to develop this program with an international institution MH really to be uh on this level and on this
• 07:00 - 07:30 a uh really common idea of what is a bachelor so it's it's really like you have a bachelor of of Magill so it means that at the end you can go to work you have really strong Prof professionalization you have strong skills to work to join what the the company you want uh in any place uh around the world but you you can also pursue your studies with different Masters and one of the possibility is to come back uh to the
• 07:30 - 08:00 engineering degree okay and become an engineer so it's really an undergraduate program after that you can go to work or you can choose one specialization uh in a master you can also uh choose to uh to to have a master not in engineering it's very interesting to have four years of engineering after four years you have very good level in engineering you have strong skills in this domain and it's very interesting to
• 08:00 - 08:30 have an additional uh diploma the Master Level like an MBA like in economics uh we have students wanted to go in architecture in the so after the bachelor you can do um whatever you want that's really um very interesting I don't think we will have so much students uh wanted to to get the engineer degree uh it's something quite different very well known in friends but
• 08:30 - 09:00 it's really only for friends so we we we have the possibility to to have the engineer degree uh we can uh you you can complete engineer studies uh two years after the The Bachelor so it means that you can enter the the the the curriculum the engineer curriculum and you spend two years in this curriculum to become engineer so it's like and M two years of Master
• 09:00 - 09:30 after your Bachelor how does it work in Quebec to get the title of engineer so after the bachelor from Mill if they do the two plus two with the your program uh would that give them in Quebec um like a the title of engineer or would they also have there to do an extra year no you know in in Quebec it's not automatic it's not engineer is not a diploma it's a it's something it's a it's it's a place you have to apply in add to your to your diploma so with this
• 09:30 - 10:00 bachelor you have all the credits to apply to the orderer in uh in a Quebec okay so you have a professional experience you you have internships and you have the credits uh to apply to to this title of engineer okay so it's really like any other Bachelor of Engineering in Mel there is no specific it's the same recognition at the
• 10:00 - 10:30 as if they did the four years or the three years in Mill and as as any program in at Mill you can have uh really just a change in in the number of credits depending on the specialization you have if you choose to have an entrepreneurship stream at my you may miss one or two credits so it it's it's really comeon to all the students from me and so can you explain to us a little bit what um what do students do when
• 10:30 - 11:00 they get to why is this program different from The Bachelor do it going straight to Mill or engineering that's an option for our students why would they choose this double degree uh that potentially is adding an extra year for them um what what's the I want to say pre value uh that that they be add add on benefits um from this program I think it's well uh explained uh in the name we
• 11:00 - 11:30 choose the Global Engineering because uh Global mean obviously International so it means that you have a bachelor spending times uh at two different places but also Global mean that you have a larger Spectra of knowledge and this is one of the originality of this bachelor compared to the other Bachelor at Mill or in most of the university around the world is that you do not choose your specialization
• 11:30 - 12:00 from year one uh when you enter m in any other program you have to choose to do mechanical engineering electrical engineering computer science here on this on this bachelor during the two First Years in Paris all the W cour is doing exactly the same classes so all the courses are the same they are together in class and there is no choice of specialization so uh during the the first two years in Paris we we we really
• 12:00 - 12:30 teach a strong Basics all the basics to become engineer whatever the domain you will work or or whatever the disciplines you want to uh to to dive in so it means that during the two first years you have really large Spectra of courses you have obviously strong basis in math and physics uh for those who know the the class preparat we cover almost the same program uh the same uh fundamental
• 12:30 - 13:00 knowledge and topics you have to know to become an engineer you have different part of physics you do mechanical you do electrical uh you do a little bit of waves Optics electromagnetism so you cover a large Spectra of of basic knowledge in math and physics but you also have courses like biology like economics like Compu um company organization so it's it's really what
• 13:00 - 13:30 the the first originality of this program is that you have large number of courses and you do not choose the specialization and after two years when you go to Montreal at this time you choose the stream you want to go uh in and the stream you want to to to specialize in in so this is really uh the two main difference is that from day one you know exactly what will be uh the the International Exchange you
• 13:30 - 14:00 will have and you have guaranteed to go to Montreal and to have this true experience and during the two First Years you we will not ask you to choose you will discover all the fields of of engineering and are you also guaranteed to be able to access the the engineering specialty you want once you get into Mill or is it there are certain number of place and yeah there there are a limited number of Place uh and and this is really if you
• 14:00 - 14:30 know what you want to do uh as specialization you have to go there directly okay this is really the idea is that if you know from year one that you want to become a mechanical engineers you have to apply to mechanical engineering uh the idea for us is that you have this general education during the two first herei and at the end no matter the stream you want okay it means that going to
• 14:30 - 15:00 electrical to you going to bioengineering should be almost the same thing for you so there is no guarantee there are most large number of places but typically on this year we have three or four students that could not go to the the stream they want okay among 80 80 students yeah so that was my next question so it's about 80 students per cohort yep now it's 80 students who will go a little bit
• 15:00 - 15:30 during the the coming years but right now we have two cohorts of 80 students and so the first course is now Shing the streams to to go to Montreal in September and so at some points the the the grades are considered to choose the the the Stream So we cannot guarantee the stream if if the whole Court want to go in the same stream canot do that so there is no guarantee uh but we have a testimony of students
• 15:30 - 16:00 uh saying that when they enter the program they wanted to go to mechanical engineering and since they have all this bunch of different courses they discovered different topics of engineering and they moved to uh other stream and this is really the idea if you come to this program with uh an idea of exactly what you want to do is not the good place for you and no level of French is required whatsoever no no absolutely not uh at the end you should
• 16:00 - 16:30 have a B2 LEL so you have courses in of French during the the the curriculum but to enter the program there is no French needed at all and could you so you compared a little bit to two years at calc with the the prepa system um there's lots of different experiences at the undergraduate level sometimes it's very selective to get in the program but the goal after that is for 100% of the students students to graduate and to go
• 16:30 - 17:00 to the end sometimes it's easier to get in but then you will have a lot of students that will be cut out of the program because they don't make it prepa is a system where you have that pressure of you know the the concour and and not knowing where you're going to end up so how would you describe the uh the intensity of the workload and the the risk or uh you know um to to make it through uh in this program we are very selective at the entrance and really our purpose is is to uh to bring everybody
• 17:00 - 17:30 at there so the this is one of the reputation of Mel meel and we share exactly the same philosophy we want that everybody entering the program to graduate uh after four years so there are accidents that there are there are people that want to change our mind there are a lot of but the a is really that 95 96% of the of the students uh go uh graduate
• 17:30 - 18:00 from from the program it's not it doesn't mean it's easy uh because it it's quite demanding we have all very often the question about the little in math in in physics typically most of the students uh we selected had a position in class preparat okay so it's it's really the same level for the the French Bala it's almost the same level uh we we we take only students with with a very good
• 18:00 - 18:30 level in math and physics because if if we we want them to discover all the domain of of engineering and it's quite demanding okay it's it remains mathematics teach has a French used to do uh so it's uh it's really demanding and and at the end there are a lot of different topics you have to discover so you have to get the ability to switch from one domain to the other discover
• 18:30 - 19:00 electrical then go back to automatics and so it's it's quite demanding but compared to classa what is changing is really the the the pedagogy uh we have we are not preparing a competitive exam uh we have different size of uh of class we can split we have modalities to teach that are quite different uh which why also to have more let's say applied and handson
• 19:00 - 19:30 experience of engineering we do not have only theoretical classes with a written exam at the end from the the just after a couple of weeks you you start during presentation during team project uh and and dealing with companies this is also one very important uh part of the of the program uh we we are well known for all the
• 19:30 - 20:00 links we have with uh companies and we want that the students be in touch with companies during the curriculum so uh we move the cohort within companies the engineers from company are coming they teach to the students they give they come they come with their their problems they explain what are the challenges in in in their field so there are a lot of uh times where you can exchange also with company is we have obviously
• 20:00 - 20:30 internships so all these elements are quite different from classa and we know that even if the the Lael uh and the the the content of the courses are the same the way we teach and the goal are quite different thank you very much for clarifying that very very helpful um and so the what does it look like to be a student um there do you does everyone leave on on campus you have very I'm assuming international student
• 20:30 - 21:00 population so maybe that would be my first question so what what does it look like that group of 80 students where are they coming from is it mostly French students or is there a specific nationality that's kind of dominant or where are they coming from and then what's the campus kind of vibe if you come from the other side of the world and you end up uh so what is quite new for engineering studies is that we have 46% of female students this is one of the great personality that's quite new also for for Central sub we welcome
• 21:00 - 21:30 students from right now 25 different countries uh meaning that uh students have all the high school abroad so they they spend a lot of times in different countries around the world um and we have around 30 different nationalities so uh but we have a lot of people with double nationality uh usually a European one and an Asian or
• 21:30 - 22:00 American one uh so a lot of people speaking different languages with uh an international experience they spend they lived many years abroad uh they studied abroad so they have they have this International experience so we we don't think too much about nationality uh we look at the the kind of diploma the the
• 22:00 - 22:30 students prepared or have from the from high school so we have French boria we have European Bia International Balia a level high school from Canada so we have all this degree uh and we have people coming from really large number of places around the world so we prefer think uh this way and we we we should have around 60% of students students having the French nationality but for
• 22:30 - 23:00 most of of them it's the first time they come in France to start the program so the national doesn't mean a lot of things for for for us so obviously we we offer housing on campus so we have rooms dedicated for bachelor students uh usually there this is a share bedroom share apartment uh with three or four bedrooms uh uh and it's located 100 meter from
• 23:00 - 23:30 the main building on campus and and we are really the on the heart of the of the campus it means that we have all schools around we have also uh other students from physics from biology from from the University Paris so it's it's a mix and all the bachelor students are really mixed with the engineers it's the same location same classrooms uh we also instructors from
• 23:30 - 24:00 The Bachelor programs to the engineers so there is really uh everybody is sharing the same uh the same place so now let's talk a bit about um the admission the application um process uh so how does it work because uh it changed a little bit from last year I don't know if it might still change a bit but this year how does it work and what are the different scenarios um do you have to apply through parkour SHP in some scenarios
• 24:00 - 24:30 are you allowed to apply outside of Parkour uh if you want um how does the how does it work for students that we want to to apply uh you you never have to apply through parp uh it's a possibility uh we have usually 10 slots available on parit only so it means that most of the people are entering the program through the the the application process uh starting in October and then uh going to to to March okay so
• 24:30 - 25:00 it's it's complex because we have to uh to share data with Canada and we have strong regulation about personal data so our dream was to be able to have only one platform located on one location for everybody but we could not do that so everybody has to apply twice one on Central superx platform and one on megel
• 25:00 - 25:30 website so that everybody provides its data on each country with the good agreements to to share the data so we have really big issue with the with the data uh we also have two different schedule between megel and Cal superc because megel is stopping all the application mid January okay because they need a lot of time to get the visa to go to uh study
• 25:30 - 26:00 in Canada so they close very early the process so that they are almost sure that all the the the students can come uh in September to start the the class so here for the program uh if you go to the magil website right now at this date you cannot apply anymore for the program however you can still apply on S websites and we will transfer the file to uh Mill so you have until
• 26:00 - 26:30 the 1 of March to apply on S super platform to uh to this program even if uh student miss the the me Guild deadline it will be okay we consider yeah it will be okay and megel will just open the the platform for each students who already applied on C okay and then so then you can they when they apply to you then they're going to open them access to to do that okay but any point
• 26:30 - 27:00 if any students is in touch with one or the other institution we are sharing a lot of information we cannot share the the the documents yeah we don't want to share the data between the two countries but we know we can share the number of of applicants we share the the the name to be sure that we have the uh the the the dossier on on each platform so we have to manage this uh regulation about data but it works okay so you you can
• 27:00 - 27:30 still apply on the central super website and uh it's it's quite easy for us to to exchange and discuss in any case the platform will close at beginning of March because after that we have the parkour process and we didn't want to interfere between the two process so at the end of February you cannot apply anymore on platforms and if you want to apply you have to go to Parker soup but
• 27:30 - 28:00 it clear that we have only 10 slots available of Parker Soup for the applicants who discovered the program lately or hesitated before you still have the parkour sh possibility after that okay that's very clear thank you for clarifying that very very I know I know it's not really clear not so easy we are really struggling with rules with PCO soup with the Canadian regulations so we try to make it as easy as possible but we know it's
• 28:00 - 28:30 it's not so yeah it's good don't give up uh it's great that it's happening um okay and so in term of what do you look at because we know mcil as a very straightforward uh selection process they look at transcript from Premier grade 11 and the first term of terminal grade 12 U and they kind of take these four um term grades and they look at you know the higher level subjects or
• 28:30 - 29:00 speciality and um and they will have their kind of criteria of entry with specific grades and there is no motivation letter no Unum test no CV no interview uh nothing so how does it work how do you select students uh do you still have a bit of that Mill approach or is it a totally different way of selecting student oh we took the wor of each uh meaning that uh uh so one really
• 29:00 - 29:30 key element on this program is that when you apply you are admitted to both the two institution I think it's the the first time it happens uh in higher education it's I think in engineering it's the only place where you can apply and be admitted simultaneously on two institutions and to be sure that if you succeed you are graduated from the two instit tions okay so it means that the
• 29:30 - 30:00 review process of our application is done together and each institution has its own criteria that's why I'm saying we took the worth of each it means that megel is really interested in uh the transcripts the history all the the transcripts from uh from high school and they have experience to select students and they know how to rank the the the students even if some sometimes times uh for French high school it's not very
• 30:00 - 30:30 clear for them so this is at this point that it's much more clear for us we know how to evaluate students depending on the high school they are in depending on the specialities and so so megel uh for for French students they tend to have really rigorous criteria saying you have to get mathematics specialization you have to and we tend to say okay it didn't take the mathematic specialization but we know that from the institutions with these different
• 30:30 - 31:00 options it's a good student so we can discuss and in any case we have really uh double evaluation each institution is doing the evaluation with share criteria with its own criteria and then if the two institutions agree we have the we can admit the the the students so it's really we we didn't CH choose one way or the other we do both and we share the
• 31:00 - 31:30 results and it happens that we disagree at times but we have uh elements so it means that on these programs we accepted students that usually M Gil would not have accept because we had good reason and they said okay we we take these students and on the other way there are students uh especially students from abroad we didn't know so much the system the high school and Mel said okay this one is good even for us it looks not not
• 31:30 - 32:00 so good so it's a balanced discussion it's really a join admission process I I mean it's great because you both are enriching each other with your own expertise uh so that's uh that's really helpful I'm sure for the for both teams on on both sides um and so on on your end then what's the what's the process how do you balance transcript you have an interview if I'm correct you have a motivation letter um so how does this elements play does everyone is invited
• 32:00 - 32:30 to interview or do you have to be pre-selected no no we pre-select people to the to the interview um uh really we we first check the the the grades in science okay um we we kind of uh automatically generate scores uh we have a way to generate scores like a science score International score depending on nationality the play you are living so you have weight with different there is
• 32:30 - 33:00 no automatic threshold but we generate some scores to have an idea we know that we have very uh application that are not good enough we know uh so we have a we have to stop at at some points and then after we we can select students for the uh for the interview so we have the first scores the trying to get a profile of the applicant
• 33:00 - 33:30 in terms of science in term of international uh profile uh and then review every every file these CES help us to um to focus first on the very good uh dossier it's not used to eliminate all the other it just help us uh you know we have 1,000 application uh every every year so we have to find a
• 33:30 - 34:00 way to focus really on the first on the very good uh application and then slowly we go to the uh less good it means we can have very good surprise in the midle but uh it's a way we we pred so we identify the the best applications we we we want and then we have this interview uh the the interview is really the the the purpose is really to be sure that the students
• 34:00 - 34:30 is very aware of what is this program uh typically there is no math exam or physic exam or it's not even a test of English or whatever it's really uh the point is really to understand uh how the why the student is coming and How Deeply understood the the the program we we don't want bad surprise for them and we want to be sure that the the the students is very aware of what
• 34:30 - 35:00 we are offering it's not a classical program in in undergraduate engineering Bachelor so we have to be clear that the the students will do biology uh In classical mechanics and so it's it's kind an original program so we want to be sure that all students uh understand exactly what is the purpose of this program so basically if a student receives an interview it means that he's eligible he has what he what
• 35:00 - 35:30 he needs to have in term of academics and this is more of a fit kind of interview to make sure this is a good fit between the institution and and the like the program and the the St y exactly yeah the the process is much more selective between the the review of the dossier and the interview than after the the uh if you students for That interview um they receive some documents to prepare they have to work on some content yeah
• 35:30 - 36:00 we know that during an interview it's not so easy for the students to feel good from the beginning of an interview and we know that if uh if the students knows exactly what is going to tell during the five first minutes it's much more easy for them to enter in the communication otherwise it's it's a kind of Ice Breaker okay to to so that the students he know that the five minutes it's up to him or to her and uh so we
• 36:00 - 36:30 send some text to read to comment to to prepare some so that the students know exactly what will happen during the five first minutes he can give the the the speech and we see that it's much more easy to discuss with uh after so in term of uh students choosing their classes because as you said the the most selective part is the to make it in ter of academic achievements academic level uh so do you do you have for example
• 36:30 - 37:00 criteria very Mill does but as you were saying you're more flexible with this program you can look at of more holistically the profile of the student um do you have still criteria like you have to do math analysis for example in the IB uh at higher level or you have to do speciality math necessarily with speciality physics all the way till the end of grade 12 or math expert is that something that could also be a like is there basically for let's say
• 37:00 - 37:30 grade 10 student second student that's choosing IB or French back speciality other mistakes not to avoid like uh where you would say if you don't take this likely that will make you weaker when you apply it's it's not linked to the application it's really um I like what you say about the holistic view of the the thing what I used to say is to say the uh um if you
• 37:30 - 38:00 do not have the math expert you should have a very good reason it means that you cannot you cannot uh take that but it means that uh you choose to do something else and you have really strong motivation to do other because you like sports and you have very intensive Sports uh training you have musical you have experience and something else okay it means so so we want the students to be really
• 38:00 - 38:30 clear on the choices they did and if somebody said okay I didn't choose to do math expell because it took so much time in math I'm very confident because I know that I am able to work in Ma and even if I do not have these um experts I will be able during the first year to recover my and I prefer to choose when I was in the in the in in high school to spend times in drama because we had a
• 38:30 - 39:00 professor with a very good motivating project in drama and we I spend time through that and it was much more interesting for me than doing math that I know I will be able to uh to recover later so that that's why I say we look at the coherence of everything and how the students feel good with this choices okay what we say is you if you have kind of mat exper depending on your curriculum it will be much more easy for you it means that uh
• 39:00 - 39:30 during the first month of the program you will be able to focus on other other things it's a it's usually a very large gap for most of the students most of them are traveling from abroad they are leaving their parents so it's a new life in a new country in a new environment the courses are quite different it's no no more a small classroom within the high school it's a hthat there are a lot of students lot different
• 39:30 - 40:00 teachers so obviously uh if you have the the if you have seen the topics in math in physics preor come here it will be much more easy but it doesn't mean you will succeed and it doesn't mean that if you do not have it it will be impossible for you all right great about that I I I remember actually prob my student last year that I chose NSC and didn't have know the one specialty in terminal with physics and she was able to talk to the
• 40:00 - 40:30 TOC and have a discussion about uh looking at how she could balance this uh with something else um and it's great because lots of institution don't give that option to have that that holistic view as you said and and to look at the context as well it's really link to the maturity you know students at the end of high school able to explain the choices you did and even to expain okay I screwed up on these choices I I did the wrong choices
• 40:30 - 41:00 I didn't want I didn't know what I wanted to do at the end of grade 10 and then during these two last year I discover I thought that physics was that and finally I I have a new teacher during grade 11 and it was much better for I discover I like this and I I found out that I did the wrong choices but I want to change right now so it's also in term of because it's a question we often
• 41:00 - 41:30 have from from families some system like M they were they will kind of be clear on the grades they looking for even if they change from year to year and they're very clear on that that it can fluctuate uh but they cannot give you grades in the uke the same thing students will be able to see specific grades do you have specific grades where you can tell student like don't even bother applying or because of that view that you have and what you just explained maybe it's the same kind of answer uh you don't give specific uh grades to to achieve m is Mel is given
• 41:30 - 42:00 statistics this is not a preder mind threshold that they fix it's statistics based on what they did previously so it gives you an idea of the grades that the students most of the students had when they they admitted so it doesn't mean they will NE we will never take somebody below this uh these grades so uh if you go to the mag website and you look at
• 42:00 - 42:30 the the different grades you have a good idea of uh what we what we accept it's it's almost the the the same thing but keep in mind that's that's only statistics and it's it's it's much more um why Mill is given this information because when you apply to Mill you can choose three different programs and it gives an idea of the pressure you have on each
• 42:30 - 43:00 program and typically if you look at the the grades you will see that bioengineering needs higher grades than mining for example it's because there are much more application to bioengineering than on mining so it's much more demanding so logically the the the the admit students with the higher grades so it's it's much more a consequence of the number of application
• 43:00 - 43:30 they have than the predefined phold that they they didn't want to to go below all right very clear uh do you have a specific score to get in ter of English language requirements like iot fall yeah he here is it's exactly the same criteria the criteria came from megel okay uh so you you have and this is um based on the accreditation from Magill programs to enter the any program of
• 43:30 - 44:00 Engineering in Magill you have to get a minimum level we accept different tests uh and depending on the test we have a FR SS for for each so on the mag website you have the list of all the test available and minimum level you have to reach well I think that's good um in term of tuition fees how does it work is it the same for everyone or do you have different tuition F based on you know if you have an EU citizenship
• 44:00 - 44:30 or not or these kind of things once again it's a mix between the what is done in um in France and what is done in uh in Canada at Mill you have three different fees you have Kean you have for Canadian and you have for overseas uh students the the French students when you go to megel you have the Canadian fees so when you are French you go to Montreal to study in M Magill you have the same fees that any Canadian students
• 44:30 - 45:00 which are a little bit higher than the the Kean uh students in France it's the same thing for Canadian and U students it's the same uh feas okay and for uh other International students it's the the overse uh phase so it means that and it's almost the same amount between the two institutions and we you pay
• 45:00 - 45:30 where you are so it means dur in the true first year you pay at Cal super Le with the rules of Cal super Lees so the only difference between the two the two institutions are for the UI students that are not French it means that you if you are Spanish you have the UI rules uh in Paris so you have the low rate but when you travel to Canada you are considered like another C students and
• 45:30 - 46:00 you move to the other rates so this is the only uh population that have this strong gap between the fields between the two institutions otherwise it's almost the same thing during the four years okay perfect thank you very much so we have a few questions I'm going to take them now um so one question is how many hours of teaching do you have during the first two years in uh Cal superc so at the beginning you have very long long
• 46:00 - 46:30 large number of hours in classrooms so it means that during each week you have 28 uh hours of work at at schedle so it's really um monitored uh you have different instructor during the the the first two years and then when you go to uh to Montreal you have less hours it drops to 50 15 hours a week and you have more but this is also because you have
• 46:30 - 47:00 more projects more time to work by yourself so we increase the autonomy of the students along the path so at the beginning a lot of times in classroom and then it's decreasing when you you progress perfect uh well is very easy questions to take here saying math was thought the French way but it's still in English yeah all the all the courses are in English when I say it's the French way it's really because it's a little bit more theoretical at the beginning we
• 47:00 - 47:30 like this way to teach map and we wanted to keep that it's also one reason magil wanted to go to to to do this program with us it's because they know that we train students very well in math and physics another way so it remains really theoretical which is a little bit disturbing for some students especially when you come from the US or you come from even high school in Canada it's not very common to have this way of thinking so it's kind of challenging for these
• 47:30 - 48:00 people in math perfect uh well there's one question I think probably someone had missed a bit the the beginning of the the presentation asking but uh Cal is only accessible after class prepa after two years of prepa so here we're talking about the The Bachelor so so has now a bachelor of Global Engineering that you can access straight from uh High School where you don't have to do the the prepa before but it's not the grandal program it's the bachor uh degree all right and then we have
• 48:00 - 48:30 questions about um okay if choosing the data science or bio engineering stream specialization what are the two diplomas that the students will obtain at the end uh The Bachelor of Goo engineering and a bachor in whatever specialty at Mill yes that's it the so we have two diploma the the central super is a general diploma of Bachelor of engineering it's accredited by the French Ministry and it has the name
• 48:30 - 49:00 really of generalist engineer engineering by by Bachelor and at Mill indeed you have the name of your specialization also on the diploma but it's the Bachelor of Engineering in data science or in bio engineering perfect thank you very much I'm looking there any other questions um uh are the bachelor students housing the same residence as the engineering students from the grand or not actually it's the the same
• 49:00 - 49:30 residence but the same residence has different buildings so it's dedicated building it's really a group of building so it's really close to for one from it each other um but it's a dedicated building because in this building we have share apartment are there any scholarships uh that's I guess a family or student from for yeah so there are different kind of of scholarship um we have uh for for the
• 49:30 - 50:00 French students we have we are you can apply to the Cru uh scholarships so we have students that are buer uh Cru uh for some countries we also have what we call the bgf which are the B the Govern FR so these are scholarship you can apply to from the French Embassy abroad um and we have
• 50:00 - 50:30 scholarship we have a large envelope for scholarship uh because we have also donator that want to help the program and help the students within the program and we give this scholarship based either on the Merit we have Merit based scholarships and nbars uh scholarships so really it's a review of your needs uh and this is really well done
• 50:30 - 51:00 process from Mel you can apply you can explain your situation you can ask and we we we give really scholarships uh different scholarship to each students really depending on on its needs okay perfect um there's one one question on is it based on control continue uh or final exams so I guess we talked about that that already it was more on the on the on the transcript and the continue the bo down but do you have
• 51:00 - 51:30 uh do you make uh unconditional offers or conditional offers afterwards it's it's always conditional based on your diploma or your high school diploma so every student is admitted if he has the baloria or if if he she has the the degree of the of the the high level we never have uh we never admitted people with a minimum Mark to get the baloria okay we said just if you have the baloria or if you have your
• 51:30 - 52:00 degree from high school it's okay okay regarding the the the the control continue or or final exam it's I understand it comes from how we we uh we evaluate students during our courses okay and usually it's a mix between sometimes so during one semester you have midterm exam you have uh small exam and usually what we try also to do is to
• 52:00 - 52:30 mix different way of evaluate students we just we do want to have only a written exam at the end but to we try to have a merge between group work individual R written exam oral presentation so it's a merge and we want students succeed in difference evaluation process perfect so I'm going to get to the end there one interesting question question here is when you finish the The Bachelor of Global
• 52:30 - 53:00 Engineering uh if you let's say you want to then do your engineering finish your engineering diploma at s super are you kind of automatically considered uh to enroll after that b draw or do you have to reapply no you have to apply again we have a process an existing process on this on this curriculum for bachelor students from abroad so you will be considered as any bachelor students or graduating graduated students and we
• 53:00 - 53:30 have people with a bachelor from India from China from who apply to go to this uh engineer degree so you will have to apply also uh to do the engineer degree in two years one final question uh wondering why the students can access Computer Engineering of software engineering um as a specialization in Meo the only the The Bachelor is uh with
• 53:30 - 54:00 the The Faculty of engineering it means that it's managed by the engineering and the only program you can do is programs within the engineering faculty so it means that there are computer science there is no there is data science uh but not computer science really yeah yeah the the computer science is managed by the science faculty uh which is out of this program
• 54:00 - 54:30 so you you really have to look uh at the programs from the engineering at me well thank you so much uh Frank there was uh I learned a lot tonight I think everyone uh did H thank you for clarifying all this was my pleasure for those who are around in Paris we have open days the eth of February uh so if people are around you you will be welcome to come between 10 and 5:00 p.m. 10: a.m. and 5:00 p.m. and
• 54:30 - 55:00 for those who just are coming through Paris later on we can organize also visit so don't hesitate to contact uh if you are around just for one week or two weeks or some couple of days we can arrange for for a tour on campus and for you to meet students here that's great well thank you very much you and yeah I'll say to everyone goodbye and we'll see you soon on another episode of the anywhere uni live podcast thank you very
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