The Odd Implications of Moana 2's Credits Scene

Summary

Highlights

• Disney potentially shifting Moana into a new cinematic universe akin to MCU. 🌟
• Moana 2’s credits scene suggests a larger franchise expansion. 🎬
• Disney leveraging financial incentives at the expense of artistic value. 🎨
• Encouragement to explore cinematic experiences beyond mainstream films. 🎭
• The video is a mix of critique, industry observations, and personal reflections. 🤔

Key Takeaways

• Moana 2 hints at Disney's new cinematic universe, prioritizing brand over story. 🌊
• Concerns rise about artistic integrity being overshadowed by financial motives. 💰
• Encouragement to explore diverse films beyond mainstream animations. 🎥
• Critique of the animation industry's turn towards commercialization. 💡
• Enjoy mainstream films but also dive into lesser-known cinematic treasures. 📚

Overview

The Odd Implications of Moana 2's Credits Scene Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 you know I was having too much fun making the chaera sandwich STI all of these ranking videos are just so enjoyable cuz I feel passionate about all of them even the Disney villains one cuz at least with that one I got to talk about some artistically Rich classic 2D animated films I really need to remind myself that this is in fact a job and talk about some recent slop cuz my insanely long and detailed analysis of every treasure in the Pikmin series next year isn't going to fund itself no but genuinely this is an element of M two I
• 00:30 - 01:00 kind of want to discuss that I didn't really go into too much detail on in my initial review so the mid credit scene of this movie yep it sure is a marveles tease for the next one there's no denying that basically to recap if you haven't seen it uh the main villain of the movie shows up for the first time yeah throughout the entire rest of the movie he just existed in a storm form but here he's in the flesh and he vows revenge on Moana for breaking his curse mobilizing the forces of the vampire bat
• 01:00 - 01:30 lady and I guess tomato TOA since he also showed up there's this one review on letter box of Kung Fu Panda 4 that goes seeing Tigress at the end was the sweet release after 90 minutes of excruciating edging look I don't want to say me when tomato TOA showed up but I'm also not not saying it anyway for such a boring and substanceless movie the Stinger felt like one of the only intriguing bits it reminded me a lot of movies like Ant-Man and the WASP or Captain Marvel which are similarly
• 01:30 - 02:00 completely boring and substanceless but then they end with a tease for what's going to happen in endgame oh baby that's how you know it wasn't a waste of time to watch them I guess this is the first time I've ever felt this from an animated film like I guess Transformers 1 had a little teasing Stinger but it was earned because of how complete and satisfying the film itself was Moana 2 is truly the first MCU esque animated film I've ever experienced and I didn't really think too much of that fact and until I saw the movie's box office and
• 02:00 - 02:30 it really hit me the MCU is kind of dying these new movies are not bringing in anywhere close to the same bucks as the franchises Peak I mean yeah Deadpool and Wolverine was a huge hit but to be honest I think that's just because people like Deadpool and Wolverine's characters I don't even think most people knew this was an MCU movie going in the MCU in general isn't doing too hot financially and Disney could really use another Mega franchise since Star Wars isn't really working out for them so automatically well I think they might
• 02:30 - 03:00 have gotten their new franchise welcome to the Moana Cinematic Universe it just makes sense the thing about Disney and Pixar is that all of their ongoing franchises thankfully have not been pumped out at a similar level to say the Despicable Me movies yes Toy Story obviously should have ended by now but at least it takes them like a decade to make a new one same with Incredibles or inside out or even the six-year gaps between the Wreck-It Ralph and Frozen
• 03:00 - 03:30 movies it really feels like Disney doesn't Force any of these sequels to come out immediately they wait until that original creative team has an idea worth pursuing and they'll still make money from it eventually so it's a win-win for financial incentives and Artistic integrity in theory we're just going to ignore the fact that most of these sequels are not good and just acknowledge that at least they didn't get rushed out the door in only like 2 or 3 years like if Disney really wanted to milk frozen we would have gotten four of them by now instead of just two but I
• 03:30 - 04:00 think they at least acknowledge the benefits of giving their artists time to cook on these sequels but Moana 2 is unlike anything they've ever put out before everybody knows this is three episodes of a cancelled Disney plus series stapled together similarly to the directed DVD sequels they've put out in the past but at least they had the self-respect to not pretend these were worthy new theatrical experiences by putting them out direct to DVD they made a lot of money yes but they also subliminally told us we respect the
• 04:00 - 04:30 Artistic integrity of our main Studio enough to not pretend this is from the same people that brought you the first one I mean you can tell by the animation quality after all Moana 2 is not that because the company's Artistic integrity has eroded over time to the point where they'll shove a half-baked retool TV show without the original iconic directors or the original iconic song writer on board this is completely different from say Incredibles 2 where at least they waited to get Brad Bird
• 04:30 - 05:00 back on board before greenlighting a new one or Ralph breaks the internet and Frozen 2 where they similarly retained the same creative team Moana 2 is a statement that the brand of Moana is more important than the story of Moana in my initial review I talked about the negative implications of them potentially gutting their main studio in order to get films out for cheaper but it wasn't until I saw that this is the highest grossing animated weekend of all time when I realized oh yeah this is their new MCU I mean they would be
• 05:00 - 05:30 stupid not to from a financial standpoint right plus Moana is a universe that they could feasibly just expand to Infinity way more so than most Disney films like Toy Story they're really running out of things to do with these toys Finding Nemo what is Marlin going to need rescuing now finding Marlin come on Frozen they kind of know that they have to go big and Grand with the songs and scope of the story and that they can't milk movies out of this property too much the only one I could
• 05:30 - 06:00 really see getting hyper franchised is The Incredibles but again they thankfully seem to acknowledge that it's Brad Bird's unique Vision that makes that universe so interesting Moana has the potential to be their Golden Goose cuz she could feasibly just keep fighting New Gods and Monsters forever it's a slightly more action-oriented franchise than any of their other ones besides Incredibles and on top of that they just prove that they don't need a strong artistic Vision or good songs for it to make a boatload of money just keep it introducing new evil Gods make a flat
• 06:00 - 06:30 and boring movie where she fights them and then in the post-credit scene there could be an even bigger God to fight oh no rinse and repeat until you make back all the money you lost from wish yippee a couple of weeks ago Disney announced that ice age 6 was in production and for a second there I thought why until I realized that for some ungodly reason the Ice Age movies continued to make absurd amounts of money even after the creative well completely dried up and like I said earlier Disney doesn't
• 06:30 - 07:00 exactly have a mega hit animated franchise on the same level as Despicable Me aside from Toy Story which just doesn't come out as frequently since they're still clinging to the tiniest bit of Artistic integrity there so maybe they want Ice Age to fill that role for them I suppose it's worth a try from a financial standpoint but now it kind of seems like Moana is the way for them to go they can make them for cheap and since kids are slightly easier to entertain than MCU fans slightly the quality probably won't matter as long as
• 07:00 - 07:30 the movies look colorful and give kids a good time it seems to be working in this movie's case and now I suppose this could have been the part of the video where I bemoon Disney's ridiculous capitalistic Endeavors that drain art of their soul and meaning but honestly I thought about it and the thing is I really don't care like whatever Disney can do what they want with their properties and I think it's time to just like move on from anticipating them if they come out with a surprise really good one like inono or an actually
• 07:30 - 08:00 worthwhile sequel like inside out 2 that's great and I'll enjoy those movies but like there's so much more to animation and entertainment in general than what mainstream Animation Studios can provide I know this obviously but I don't know if you do that's right I'm talking to you Kevin this is the part of the video where I stopped talking about Moana 2 as much and more so talk about the state of animation and my channel so if you're not interested as much we can part ways here this is more so for people who have been following me for a
• 08:00 - 08:30 while now I've been thinking a lot about my role in the online animation landscape lately cuz I don't think it's a stretch to say that I've helped shape it into what it is today a little bit the thing is though as much as I enjoy a lot of mainstream animated movies and animation as a whole it really is not my primary interest by any stretch my primary interests are musical theater and video games they're kind of neck and neck and while film in general is up there it's like a decently distant third
• 08:30 - 09:00 place I don't really have a particular preference between animation or liveaction either but a lot of people assume mainstream animated films are my only interest because that's just the videos I make that get the most attention it probably also has to do with the funny crab mascot but I genuinely can't help that it's not a reference to my love for animation it's kind of just a hold over and tribute from my YouTube poop days where you represented your Channel with a pre-existing character anyway I've expressed this sentiment a lot in the past year but I'm kind kind of burned
• 09:00 - 09:30 out from talking about mainstream animated movies simply because they really are not my primary interest by a long shot if I had to start over I would 100% make a half musical theater half video game analysis Channel and don't get me wrong clearly large tunks of my audience do like those topics and that's awesome but I just keep making videos on animated films alongside my actual deep passions because hey it's hard to pass up that opportunity for millions of views but the thing is in making these
• 09:30 - 10:00 very popular analysis videos on mainstream animated films I kind of worry if I've closed my audience off from experiencing more of what the medium of Animation or even the medium of film has to offer like I made my mega mind video cuz I like Megamind and wanted to share why it's so great but maybe as an unintended consequence I didn't think of in 2019 calling it a subversive Masterpiece might have caused some young people to say oh I guess this is the Pinnacle of animation and Cinema
• 10:00 - 10:30 in general I didn't think anyone would think that way but I'm increasingly concerned that some of my fans might not have an interest in anything outside of mainstream Family Fair not all my fans but definitely some animation can obviously be so much more film can obviously be so much more but the reason I don't talk about more obscure animated films as much is because well talking about Shrek and Megamind is what people on YouTube want to see complaining about bad Disney films like Moana 2 is what
• 10:30 - 11:00 people want to see and as long as I share those complaints and don't act like a grifter contorting my opinion to fit what most people think then why shouldn't I make these videos and get a good amount of views on them but honestly I think I've kind of hit my limit with that mindset I'm going to still make videos on animated films it will be silly to stop now considering they're not too high effort but I really want to use these videos that I know will be popular with a lot of mainstream animation lovers as a way to Trojan Horse some recommendations for lesser known stuff I'm not putting down movies
• 11:00 - 11:30 like shra or make a mind because I still love them just as much as I did when I first made videos on them but I just want to express to some of you that it is okay to expand your cinematic palette Beyond them and believe it or not this isn't just a random rant I arbitrarily decided to add to a video on the MCU ification of Moana it's actually relevant to that topic are you dissatisfied by Moana 2 or Strange World or wish and wish there was more exciting or interesting animated Fair well for
• 11:30 - 12:00 starters there are two movies in the conversation for best animated feature this year that I haven't seen yet but look really incredible flow and Memoirs of a snail I can't speak too much about them aside from pointing out how visually striking they look from the trailers so these should 100% be on your radar hey editing James here I actually got a chance to watch Memoirs of a snail so I can definitely recommend it yes it is very very good Sarah snook gives an amazing Central performance and the movie is devastating in terms of its emotions it's also very much an adult
• 12:00 - 12:30 movie with a lot of adult topics so don't show it to your kids but if you're a teenager I think this is a great way to start getting into more mature Cinema another great animated movie that released earlier this year but flew under everyone's radar is a French film chicken for Linda it's a colorful fun madc cap shockingly sweet movie with a ton of heart and humor to it the plot is just acquiring a chicken but it's so entertaining and so layered beyond that please give it a watch and if you're already knowledgeable about animation
• 12:30 - 13:00 and you want to check out some interesting live action fair from this year watch Challengers or Anora or a real pain or I saw the TV glow these movies can make you feel real significant powerful emotions that just aren't fully possible within the confines of modern mainstream animated films I know for some of you in the audience that seems like an obvious thing but this is mainly a plea for some people in my Twitter replies and the subreddit who only watch mainstream animated stuff I'm I am begging you you
• 13:00 - 13:30 don't have to settle for just mainstream animated films there is so much more out there for you to experience and I'm not going to act like I'm above mainstream animated films that would be snobbish and stupid I loved the wild robot and I really liked Inside Out 2 and Transformers 1 yeah these movies deserve to be praised and checked out but you can't say they're the best films of the year if you don't watch anything else there's nothing wrong with watching mainstream animated films as an adult but that cannot be all you live on start
• 13:30 - 14:00 by watching any of the films on my old best movies of the Year lists or the recommendations I just listed plus I was planning this before I decided to make this video but I'll announce here that in the first half of 2025 I'm going to put out a video that's just nothing but recommendations of less mainstream animated films for you guys to check out I want to try and undo the damage that this flashy title might have caused completely by accident as someone who really doesn't want to be a leading
• 14:00 - 14:30 figure in the animation Community not because I dislike the community at all but just because it's not really something I'm all that interested in I figure I should probably start making an effort to help large chunks of this community realize that animation is and has always been so much more than what's popular and geared towards everybody yes but kids first and foremost so to tie this whole video together if Disney is content with turning a legitimately great movie like Moana into the start of
• 14:30 - 15:00 the MCU for toddlers then that's fine as long as the animators aren't crunched I don't care and the same is true for Kung Fu Panda 4 who cares go ahead and make more meaningless slop with that IP cuz the original trilogy will always be there to enjoy just like Moana one if good art manages to slip through the cracks that Disney and Dream works that's awesome but I don't need it to because much like Moana I'm going Beyond
• 15:00 - 15:30 there's so much good art coming out from so many passionate artists and there's no reason to get so hung up about the subpar products of massive corporate umbrellas yeah I'll still make videos about these bad corporate products but I figure the least I can do from now on is sprinkle in recommendations of good lesser known things that you could be checking out instead this video has plenty of recommendations already but here's two extra easy ones that are currently free on YouTube obviously hundreds of beavers which I
• 15:30 - 16:00 already made a whole video on it's free it's funny go watch it and there's also tkes and Fanny I'm going to be talking about this a lot more next year but I figure I'll get the ball rolling on it right now if you want a warm laid-back film with amazing Vibes where not a whole lot happens and yet it's so engaging regardless look up tkes and Fanny feature film It's a Wonderful completely free independent animated
• 16:00 - 16:30 movie for you to watch right now enjoy and see you next year with even more recommendations both in a dedicated video on them and sprinkle in throughout my mainstream animation videos good night try state area oh
• 16:30 - 17:00 [Applause]