We Interviewed SSSniperwolf's Biggest Victim | TBH EP 23

Summary

In the 23rd episode of TBH, the podcast hosts dive deep into the ongoing drama between popular YouTubers SSSniperwolf and Jack's Films, while also featuring their very first guest, Azie. The episode delves into the complex web of interactions among the YouTube community, with Azie recounting her experiences with SSSniperwolf, who has been mired in controversies over her conduct and content practices. From the accusations of plagiarism and drama-filled interactions, to broader issues of ethical content for younger audiences, this episode unravels a story filled with tension, rivalry, and moral obligations within the YouTube sphere.

Highlights

• The hosts discuss SSSniperwolf's history of controversy, including issues with Jack's Films and Azie. 🌪️
• Azie talks about her journey and the surprising realization that younger audiences follow her content. 🎮
• The guest reveals her cautious stance on creating and sharing personal content due to fear of imitation. 🤔
• There are discussions about YouTube's policies and how they can sometimes inadvertently protect controversial creators. 🚦
• The podcast emphasizes the responsibility of content creators, especially when making videos accessible to younger audiences. 🎓

Key Takeaways

• SSSniperwolf has had a rocky history with accusations of copying content from other creators, particularly Azie. 😅
• Jack's Films became a central player in the drama with SSSniperwolf, criticizing her content practices, which even led to real-life confrontations. 🏠
• Azie shares her experiences, reflecting the tension and drama among YouTube creators, highlighting a need for ethical content creation. 😇
• YouTube's role and algorithms in supporting or neglecting creator accountability were brought into question. 🎥
• The episode underscores the vulnerability and challenges faced by creators targeted by toxic behavior within the community. 💔

Overview

In this eye-opening episode of TBH, the creators delve into the world of YouTube drama, primarily focusing on the controversial figure, SSSniperwolf. The unfolding tensions with Jack's Films, sparked by criticisms of SSSniperwolf's content strategy, provide a backdrop of real-life implications stemming from digital feuds. This saga highlights the chaos and confrontations that can happen when online worlds collide with offline realities.

Azie, featured as the show's first guest, shares her personal experiences in the crosshairs of these YouTube battles. Her story with SSSniperwolf showcases the darker side of content creation, where success comes with risks of toxic comparisons and rivalry. Azie's candid recounting underscores her dedication to maintaining an ethical stance in her content, aimed predominantly at a young audience, further illuminating the episode's central theme.

The discussion also tackles broader concerns regarding the platform's role in moderating its content creators. There's a critical examination of how YouTube's algorithms may unintentionally shield personalities like SSSniperwolf from repercussions. In a community where influence is powerful, the hosts interestingly weave through the responsibilities of YouTubers, especially those catering to impressionable viewers, urging for accountability and positive online environments.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 01:00: Introduction and Guest Introduction The chapter introduces the 'to be honest' podcast, which features hosts described as a clown, a nerd, a duck, and a degenerate. They welcome their first guest on the show, Ailand, who is about to release a video detailing their experiences with Sniper Wolf. The initial interaction between Ailand and Sniper Wolf dates back to 2016, marking a seven-year-long timeline.
• 01:00 - 06:00: Guest's YouTube Journey and Interaction with SSSniperWolf In this chapter, the guest discusses their initial discovery of SSSniperWolf's YouTube channel. They mention that they didn't watch much YouTube in the past due to being busy with school and having parental pressure to pursue a career in medicine. Despite initially considering a medical career, they chose to become a YouTuber instead, commenting on the financial benefits and reduced stress compared to a medical profession. The conversation humorously acknowledges that being a YouTuber requires a different kind of intelligence and jokingly agrees with the decision to pursue YouTube.
• 06:00 - 11:00: Comparison between Azie and SSSniperWolf's Content Approach The chapter discusses the content approach comparison between Azie and SSSniperWolf, focusing on a recent incident involving YouTube drama. SSSniperWolf, a popular YouTuber, had serious drama with another content creator named Jack's films. This drama led to the demonetization of her channel by YouTube. The issue arose after SSSniperWolf showed up at Jack's house following Jack's criticism of her for not crediting her sources in her reaction videos. Jack had been publicly pointing out this issue consistently.
• 11:00 - 16:00: Introduction to SSSniperWolf's Controversies and Impact on Other Creators This chapter introduces the controversies surrounding SSSniperWolf, a popular YouTuber, highlighting the impact these controversies have on other creators. The chapter discusses a particular instance where the actions of SSSniperWolf, such as breaking YouTube's rules and harassing others, have been observed. An example provided involves a situation where a creator named Jack engages in a seemingly unrelated, humorous activity involving photographing a recurring image on Twitter, highlighting the often bizarre and viral nature of conflicts and challenges within the YouTube community.
• 16:00 - 21:00: Discussion on Drama and Brand Deals The chapter discusses an ongoing interaction between a content creator and Sniper Wolf. The creator initially made humorous extended jokes, which eventually targeted Sniper Wolf after some negative interactions. He attempted to advise her on creating transformative reaction content, which she didn't take well, escalating the situation by criticizing him publicly. Her reactions inadvertently increased the visibility and popularity of his content, leading to his success.
• 21:00 - 26:00: Criticism of SSSniperWolf's Response to Criticism and Doxxing Incident The chapter discusses the ongoing conflict between SSSniperWolf and another content creator, highlighting how their reaction content is competing for views. Despite facing criticism and losing some viewership, SSSniperWolf is still engaging in reaction content. The speaker, who is also a reaction content creator, candidly admits to the questionable quality of his own content but commends the other creator for producing more credible work. The discussion reflects on the dynamics of content creation and the responsibility of creators to credit original sources and maintain quality.
• 26:00 - 31:00: Discussion on YouTube's Role and Responsibility The chapter discusses an individual's realization of YouTube's potential for transformative content. Initially, the person did not consider various perspectives about YouTube's role. However, they now understand the importance of creating more transformative content on the platform. They reflect on the idea of addressing criticism with humor and self-reflection, suggesting that doing so could lead to a better reception. The chapter touches on personal growth and the evolution of content creation on YouTube, encouraging creators to be open to different viewpoints and to adapt accordingly.
• 31:00 - 36:00: Guest's Concerns and Experience with Online Harassment The chapter discusses the guest's concerns and experiences with online harassment, particularly in the context of content creators on platforms like YouTube. The guest critiques certain content creators, like Sniper Wolf, for using repetitive and shallow reactions in their videos. They emphasize the importance of providing thoughtful and meaningful commentary, especially considering their audience of young girls. The guest appears to value content that engages more deeply with its subject matter, highlighting a disparity between different creators' approach to content curation.
• 36:00 - 41:00: Closing Remarks and Future Prospects The chapter titled 'Closing Remarks and Future Prospects' discusses issues surrounding content creation and originality. It highlights the practice of content copycatting, particularly focusing on a case involving Sniper Wolf and another content creator, Azie. The narrator compares videos and notes significant differences despite identical thumbnails and titles, emphasizing the contrast in content despite similar presentation. This suggests a commentary on the individuality and creativity required in content creation, and the nuances that differentiate seemingly similar works. The chapter suggests that looking ahead, content creators should focus on cultivating originality and mindful consumption.

We Interviewed SSSniperwolf's Biggest Victim | TBH EP 23 Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 hello and welcome to another episode of to be honest a show with a clown a nerd a duck and a degenerate and today we have our first ever guest on the to be honest podcast ailand hello so you have a video coming out fairly soon um about your experiences with Sniper Wolf as I understand it so my very first interaction with her is was in 2016 so it's it's been a while wow yeah seven
• 00:30 - 01:00 years yeah and that's actually that's actually when I first found out about her cuz I wasn't really I didn't watch much YouTube back then I was in school I my parents wanted me to be a doctor and uh I just didn't have any time for anything chose to be a YouTuber instead your first mistake I mean I I wanted to get into medicine to be fair but yeah YouTube pays more and less stress you needed to have intelligence for that you're like eh I'll become a YouTuber true I guess let's give a
• 01:00 - 01:30 little context on who uh ailand is and how she relates to Sniper Wolf what some of you who follow YouTube drama might be aware of is that Sniper Wolf has just had some some pretty serious drama with Jack's films that resulted in in Sniper Wolf's Channel being demonetized by YouTube she showed up at Jack's house now Jack had been pointing out um Leah's lack of crediting her sources in her reaction content in typical Jack film style he was doing something every day
• 01:30 - 02:00 for an extended period of time now from the outside that looks like he's breaking YouTube's rule that he's harassing someone but Jack does that no matter what it is like he took a photo of Twitter of the device picture that said something like uh Android like Twitter for Android and he took a photo of that every day for a year and then the photo of the photo until it created this like mirror in a mirror uh hallway forever and then at at the end he made a
• 02:00 - 02:30 video that was like the many realities so like he does these things that are an extended joke that only pays off later and he started to do that to Sniper Wolf because they had they had a couple negative interactions and uh he was basically trying to teach her how to do transformative reaction content and she could not abide this criticism she started throwing more and more attention at him calling him a loser saying oh he can't he's trying to do what I do and he can't even do it and the more that she did that the more traction his reaction content got and now he's almost close to
• 02:30 - 03:00 surpassing her he has something like 600,000 views on some of those and she's now dipping below a million so they're going like almost blow for blow on reaction content I was say as somebody who also does reaction content like if he did that to me I would be like you know what Fair like I know my content is [ __ ] and I'm willing to say it is you credit your stuff though like you're like the good version or far beyond the good version of I'm like I feel like I'm like slightly maybe better but like I I
• 03:00 - 03:30 being mod I I didn't consider his like points to be honest before that and now I'm like okay I want to come back to YouTube and make things more transformative so I have like a little bit of a plan on what to do but it's it's like she should have just like agreed and laughed it off done a bingo game on herself and then like it things would be okay yeah I was going to say azy like in your videos to be fair I mean I I'll be honest I don't like
• 03:30 - 04:00 frequently watch you uh but my audience is young girls I watched a couple of your videos and you actually say more than like three syllables for the entire video so yeah I would definitely say you're like leagues above sniper wolves content cuz you actually add some kind of bar is on the floor but yeah like Mariana Trench deep so you know you don't just open your mouth and go wow that's crazy guys I mean I I swear I swear in some videos she's actually reused the same reaction for like different kinds of videos and stuff as
• 04:00 - 04:30 well it's just incredibly lazy content like you guys said this content isn't meant for us and um but I in order to understand what type of copying Sniper Wolf had done I did watch the video that Azie made and then the video that Leah made that had the exact same thumb and the exact same title just to say like did she copy it word for word and there were differences within the videos and it was very striking to me what those differences were what were they cuz I've never seen those videos the difference
• 04:30 - 05:00 is your character so let me give one example azy would basically work in a little useful piece of information or something that kind of was like the moral take about what she was reacting to and then sniper wolves would always be something that defaulted to humiliation and bullying so for example one of them was um you were looking at I think the title of the video was people who thought they had great security I can't believe this was a viral video but
• 05:00 - 05:30 that's the title of one so it was um you were reacting to like poorly locked up things and ATMs that had tape on them stuff like that and uh you were looking at a bike that had been locked up to the sign outside of a cafe and your take on this you assumed the point of view of the person who was about to have their bike stolen and you were you were talking to them about how you could avoid this happening so you you assumed the role of the victim in this scenario
• 05:30 - 06:00 you were like all right guys so so here's how you would lock this up and you added a little detail of okay so there's two ways this is wrong he's locked it to a sign that can be moved and also they've locked it to the wheel which allows the thief to basically pick up the bike and walk it away and they can take the wheel off later you're like you have to lock it to the bike frame and then Leah's version is completely from the perspective of the bike Thief she's like she's like free bike and she
• 06:00 - 06:30 her hands are like she imagines herself stealing the bike you see her like acting out taking the bike and then she's like and imagine that idiot when he walks out and he's like where's my bike she's completely from the perspective of the criminal so it's I like you I thought you were going to say that she'd just like open her mouth and be like wow guys that's crazy but yeah that's even worse yeah it's worse it's worse so when you think about what this content is doing and this is why as as adult this this is not for us the
• 06:30 - 07:00 content is training training people at the age who are trying to figure out how to how to have like a cool reaction to things you know you're trying to develop a personality that's going to be that's going to be uh it's going to make you popular it's going to be the acceptable way to react to things I said we're basically B babysitting uh the internet's kids it's like when Mom and Dad want to go do their own thing we babysit their kids for them I think it's very Nanny like so so my comparison is like most YouTubers to be fair Nanny would you hire do you want to hire the
• 07:00 - 07:30 nanny who's going to teach the kids how to lock up their bike properly or teach the kids how to steal a bike you go with the Mary Poppins the one who's like here's how to do it right guys and then who quickly tries to make it fun so so azy lands you know she's she tries to always bring it back to a joke and a meme and keep it flowing but there is always this little detail that's useful to it I wonder if Sniper Wolf would admit the same that she's making her content for kids to enjoy and she is the babysitter I mean she would probably deny it right I'm guessing I've seen her deny I've seen her say like oh she has
• 07:30 - 08:00 yeah yeah she has or maybe I'm like yeah no I'm pretty sure I saw her make a tweet once and I it but I don't know so she knows that they're kids but what would she say that the demographic is I think it just depends on whatever she thinks somebody is like bitching at her for like I I I think she kind of like will get defensive and then she'll like say an answer that like defends herself you know what I mean like if it's like if they're trying to say like go only God watch her cuz she's a girl then she'll be like I have
• 08:00 - 08:30 a female audience or people are like only kids watch you then she'll be like no they're like you know what I mean like I feel like she kind of her answers change depending on what she's being criticized for we should try and do some reverse psychology there and just like criticize her for something that most would think was positive and then see what her reaction is because that speaks to someone who's just unable to take criticism any one thing I feel as well is like the lack of self-awareness because obviously like one thing that's really overdone with YouTubers is self-deprecation but it's almost kind of
• 08:30 - 09:00 it's needed to an extent because it kind of exudes that you are someone that's self-aware but with Sniper Wolf she's just never self-aware like she genuinely thinks like she should be like the number one Creator on YouTube like there is definitely like a huge YouTube themselves seems to think that as well based on some tweet azy correct me if I'm wrong but didn't her beef with Jack film start because YouTube said the creator of our dreams and quote they they posted a picture of Leah giving the
• 09:00 - 09:30 keynote speech at VidCon which is now uh sponsored by YouTube and they said the creator of our dreams with a with the eyes in Hearts emoji and Jax films replied with a sunglass emoji and a thumbs up and a heart and that's what and a heart and that's what set her off so um yes that's the first time I feel like she snapped uh but he he was like making some videos about her before but he it wasn't he had never actually said
• 09:30 - 10:00 anything bad about her it was kind of being like Oh my God like I'm so inspired by her content like it it was sarcastic but it wasn't like anything terrible like her audience would not watch that and think he's being rude and then he stopped like he was actually going to end and not do reaction content on her anymore and then she responded to him putting a sunglass Emoji a thumbs up and a heart and like told made fun of his his looks like told him like only thing funny about you is your hairline you'll never be as good at me as me you you wish you could make this much or
• 10:00 - 10:30 like something like that I don't know I'm remember seeing it and she was also saying that like he stopped because um he wasn't getting enough views and funnily enough now now that she's like re awoken the dragon he actually is yeah curiously similar Defenders on Twitter people who you know I'm just going to go ahead and say are are Leah sock puppets there are three at least that repeat in the same uh verbiage and the same um well I don't
• 10:30 - 11:00 want to teach her how to how to make it so we can't tell it's her there are there are U sock accounts sister as well few of them are these her sister just makes her own she's running alts or is it just more like a game theory this is like a probably true Game Theory but we can't say it's true yeah okay so so here's use the funny allegedly word all right so these accounts there are three accounts that are all basically hitting Jack with the same criticism that she was making of him where she's saying
• 11:00 - 11:30 like uh oh this is the modern man who's afraid to even come out of his house like what a loser and saying that she wasn't doxing him because she could find his address through Google and uh just repeating these things over and over and hitting Jack only on those things and I started to think about that and it's like all right Leah so so let's take let's take your side of things let's concede that Jack is like he's too gay to defend himself so you're going to go to a gay guy house like a little gay guy
• 11:30 - 12:00 house and what like beat him up like why is that how's that a w or you were going to pull your gun out and threaten him again how was that a w like that that's just being like a criminal psycho [ __ ] and the more you do things like that the less we're going to the the bigger the chance we're not going to have to deal with you in society anymore you know like they're they're going to take you away where antisocial people who act like that are put and that's in a cage you can't act like that that's not cool no one thinks that's cool and we do think Jack is cool and regardless of him
• 12:00 - 12:30 being a little bit of feminite we like him we like his personality like on cold ones Jack was on cold ones and he's like let's do shots and he says it in this kind of like a feminite way and Max mofo goes gay bro yeah well we he's on cold ones and you know who's not on cold ones Sniper Wolf no one wants to do shots with Sniper Wolf so what is that no everyone loves Jack and what she did was the stupidest thing a YouTuber has ever done like why did she think that was a good idea and then and then once you've
• 12:30 - 13:00 done it you don't win by saying like he's gay like we don't care and he's not by the way he's married and that's you know really none of your business he's happily married with to a woman but did she actually say he was gay she's she's basically saying without say like what okay so she she says it without saying it she's saying like oh the modern man so she's trying to say like he's like metrosexual he's too lame to defend himself but the sister and the sock puppets are like saying fur are saying
• 13:00 - 13:30 lgbtq potentially fake accounts are basically saying that that's where the mask slips the sock puppets The Mask slips and they're calling him like things you can't say on Twitter that is so terrible I like I I hope that like people can find out that those have the same IP address as her not suggesting anybody does that but I wish we had a I wish we had a hookup in Twitter that could that could prove that because they're verified so there probably is a card on the account azy would this be the first time you making a critical video about someone else yes
• 13:30 - 14:00 it actually is I don't talk uh ever I I don't talk badly about people ever like I always try to see the good in people and give people the benefit of the doubt but it's kind of like if you give somebody benath a DA for 6 years eventually it's kind of like have you ever been tempted to in the past like have you ever thought I need to make this video on Sniper Wolf to get it to stop uh yeah kind of actually it's just she she needs to know that like her consequences have actions and she needs
• 14:00 - 14:30 to know that what she's doing is shitty and I think she feels like she can get away with it because she doesn't ever talk about it on YouTube so her audience her core audience never finds out about it you know how you said that you always see the good in people you tried to be positive could you for me right now list three positive traits of Sniper Wolf um like like she's she's pretty but like I I don't know if there's
• 14:30 - 15:00 anything genuinely like positive about her yeah I that's it like like I think she's like I think she's good at pretending to be a good person I think she's like very manipulative but it always slips out imagine giving a negative tra is a positive I respect it it's the fact that she went after someone who is like cult YouTube because he's been around for so long like I think nearly 10 years or over 10 years years it's well years he he has such a
• 15:00 - 15:30 cult fan base you know someone so beloved I mean he doesn't have like a an insane following but I mean even still he's got a cult following but yet to go after someone like that is just so stupid so and also she's a YouTuber herself she knows that the most scary part of this job is being doxed or swatted like it's literally people have died from being swatted so it's and she knows that so she's willing to like Risk the fact that this could be on her head forever if something happens like knock
• 15:30 - 16:00 on wood like I don't think anything is going to happen but she is okay with risking that that's that's just I I that's what made me snap too I was like no this was the nail in the coffin this is what finally made you want to make that video once and for all and I've tried to do it before and every time I've like I've even filmed it and I've been like no I can't put this out and I've I've I've trashed it no I've filmed it like four times and I've trashed like no I can't like this this feels weird but now it doesn't feel weird I'm like that is like she's putting someone's life in danger and she's laughing and meing about it I mean it makes sense
• 16:00 - 16:30 it's a video you've never made before you know like you said you you tend to stay away from kind of expose Drama videos I might be uh jumping the gun a little bit early but I like as well the fact how uh after she had her Channel demonetized she when did she put out her apology Tock two hours after YouTube two hours just so obvious like the most sincere YouTuber apology ever her sister who now like lives with her and is and
• 16:30 - 17:00 is co-promoting uh Sniper Wolf stuff with her uh the sister replies onto her and goes do you still live in that dump next to the rug Factory or whatever and has her her address there the and we know that it's Sniper Wolf that did that because that was the address that that YouTuber used in reply to a dmca takedown from Sniper Wolf so she it's basically like she trapped her it was an old address that she wouldn't have otherwise been Associated better even
• 17:00 - 17:30 better than that so her sister responds to uh so B this girl's name is Daisy and uh this is one of the girls who uh Leah tried to take down back in the day and Leah used to I think she like must have tried to strike Daisy's Channel like maybe 10 times back in the day for just playing Call of Duty like sniper wasn't mentioned in the video she wasn't in the video and then snip would just like copyright claim it because she or copyright strike it cuz she's the only one who can play games online and be a girl and be a brunette and she was just
• 17:30 - 18:00 trying to crush every I said you guys all this it's it's really messed up and you know what i' I've like talked to Daisy and she's so sweet she's such a nice girl like guys go show her support and uh and like Leah just was trying to take down her Channel and she slowed her growth like her videos weren't able to take off because they would keep getting copyright strike and her whole channel would go down for a bit and she'd have to like go to YouTube and get it pulled back up uh and this happened for for like maybe a whole year again don't fact
• 18:00 - 18:30 check me on the details here but cuz I'm telling you this like after hearing it but something something like that and then she so basically her sister said you still live in that dump and then one of these alt accounts that's doxing all that's doxing Jack and all these other people went and put the address after snip sister said that so it's very obvious that the two accounts are related what are the possibilities there it's either a sock account it's her herself it's her sister or it's like a rabbit fan I mean those are the only
• 18:30 - 19:00 possibilities right it it is but I kind of feel like even if it was a rabbit fan like they would have at least something they would tweet that would be unrelated we've seen a sea change in how Sniper Wolf interacts with the internet and how she behaves herself and that coincides with her split with her former business partner Evan sausage when they had their disagreement whether it was now she said it's because he cheated on her who knows what really happened but when he left the house stopped working on the channel
• 19:00 - 19:30 a number of things suddenly changed first of all her views went way down she went from getting about 6 she was on an upswing where she had about 650 million views a month they plummeted almost instantly down to 250 million a month where they have stayed at that level since December of 2022 also the way that she reacts to other creators online went back to the old old Sniper Wolf the old
• 19:30 - 20:00 bullying girls uh responding to everything everything so I think she lost not only her connection to organized crime online I think she lost her access to the Boost she was getting and I think she lost her better judgment I think Evan probably paid a role played a role where he was mitigating to some degree how she would respond to people who criticized her 100% he stopped her from getting cancelled years ago yeah cuz they had a
• 20:00 - 20:30 business that was making tens of millions of dollars a year like she started when she switched to copying you and doing reaction content she went from I mean when I made a video about her I think she had something like 5 million subscribers current day she has 32 million subscribers what was she getting canceled for at that time there were little incidents like uh it would be like uh 20 20 Facebook or or 20 Instagram fails or something or it would be photos of people who've embarrassed thems in some way and she would say
• 20:30 - 21:00 something directed to the young person you know mocking the young person in the photo and and sometimes that would they would be recognized and it would impact their life and people would continue to bully them over it so things uh those type of things were the controversy she got into as a reaction channel has she said anything like that to you as he me yeah cuz you met her a few times in person yeah and even before I met her um my very first interaction with her
• 21:00 - 21:30 was um well again it's so stupid it's not that big of a deal but basically I I posted like a three Diva uh uh photos on Instagram and then two YouTube videos I think and then she did a D.A cosplay too I don't really think it was related but I don't cuz I don't think she knew about me cuz I only had 50,000 subs and she had like 3 mil or something and I started getting tagged in her photo and people were being really nice they're like oh my God you guys are so pretty you guys should collab uh like it's just really like wanting to
• 21:30 - 22:00 like see us like take photos together with Diva and I didn't know anything about her cuz I just heard about her for the first time and I run to my now ex then boyfriend and I'm like oh my god look I'm like there's there's this girl people are tagging me in I'm like maybe I'll have another friend in the cosplay world and he's like babe that's that's Sniper Wolf she's not going to want to collab with you she hates women and I got mad at him and I was like you're being a hater you can't believe everything you hear online and then uh like under 24 hours later she is like
• 22:00 - 22:30 tweeting about me saying uh kind of annoying when people compare my cosplay mirror selfie pictures to highly edited photosho photos where people edit their boobs and waist Etc quite clearly insinuating she's talking about you right well then and then she started people started saying you're talking about a and she started liking their their comments and then she's saying like I don't belong to this community uh like she sees so many people who look unrecognizable in real life like she has
• 22:30 - 23:00 never seen me in real life yet so her motivation there was to essentially eliminate the competition IU I was not competition though I had 50,000 Subs I was I was like no like I wasn't a big YouTuber at all or rather than okay since you were the first person to do this cosplay DVA is like the is that the robot on no it's the the one in ties the most popular one colossal imagine you get a comment when you upload that something like um that mentions you and someone else's favorite YouTuber and
• 23:00 - 23:30 it's like here's my favorite YouTubers you know the internet historian and colossal uploaded on the same day that's awesome and then instead of you just you know hitting like or moving on you were infuriated by that and you replied like I don't want to be compared to internet historian I hate his memes he's not even funny he's no good and he he doesn't edit his own videos and blah blah blah like imagine you know so that's why I compare sniper wolf to a Siamese fighting fish she you can't put two
• 23:30 - 24:00 Siamese fighting fish next to each other they will attack the GL you can't even show a mirror to a sies fighting fish or they'll attack the glass and they'll bash their face to death on the the side of an aquarium Leah basically sees anything that looks like her and attacks attacks it so hard that she damages her own brand so this was essentially just like total jealousy from the get-go I assume that you had quite a few positive comments based on this picture on this cosplay and maybe even some were saying that yours was better than hers even
• 24:00 - 24:30 though she was a lot more popular and so she saw that and sought to eliminate you entirely and you know put you down and say negative things in order she got more positivity and you got all the negativity so I actually think before she said anything there weren't any comments like that but as soon as she made her tweet then people started posting things like that then there were then people started saying like this person is better this person is better this person is better so she made like kind of made that happen
• 24:30 - 25:00 ironic she set you up in opposition to her one or the other where before it wasn't like that people just were just like like oh my God you guys post at the same time do you know each other you know so why do you think she did that then what was her motivation behind doing that in the first place having had no contact with you prior to this I don't get this but also uh nerd did a video too where there's this other somebody tags her in a photo with this singer uh Melanie I think her name was right and she's she's really beautiful
• 25:00 - 25:30 and uh and somebody's like oh my God you guys look the same and then Leah responds to them being like but her boobs are fake and gross or something and it's like it's it's just her reaction to anybody comparing her to somebody which is I don't understand to be honest there's room for more than one gamer girl online there's room for hundreds of them you know only hundreds
• 25:30 - 26:00 only it does project insecurity a lot cuz anything that's popular or any kind of Niche will always you know have multiple people trying to you know compete there but yeah I also like as well as she's saying that you know highly edited Pro piic sorry I don't photoshot my boobs but it's like you've also had work done as well so it's also a weird distinction to make like why why is taking a photo in the mirror of you dressed up with no place to go why is that somehow more authentic than someone who like goes to a convention and
• 26:00 - 26:30 someone is photographs them who has a better camera like it doesn't make any sense that's not what cosplay people think to me that's the biggest self-report like she see when I look at this photo I see what she did she now she has a she has a good body but she gives herself a little boost and you can see where she does it she makes her chest go outwards and she tucks in her hips and she pushes out her uh you know her butt that's a medical condition D
• 26:30 - 27:00 yeah that's not scoliosis what does she got lordosis she calls it right the bed is bending bed is bending they might have just been from sausage sitting there to be fair yeah that's where he sits yeah the bed is B yeah so she's she's somewhat repaired the frame of the bed but she allowed the mattress to Sag and it's just sagging and sagging and lifting in conveniently exactly the space where you would be tucking in and pushing out do you know that defense azy the one of she
• 27:00 - 27:30 says she has little doses are you aware of that one yeah good I think nerd covered it in his video I learned that from nerd's I actually now that I noticed that if you like look at the bed frame on the right side and you like if you were to draw a straight line across it's not straight it's bent it's bent and it gets thicker too like on the left side than on the right side yeah so this is the response of someone who knows that they've
• 27:30 - 28:00 cheated yeah you know and like I was saying in in my example if someone compared me to another good editor the only way that that would make me feel really defensive is if I knew that I wasn't even editing my videos if someone was just saying like oh you're you're like Captain disillusion and that happens all the time I'll reply like well I think he's better at Graphics than me and I hope he never sees my videos because they uh they're full of mistakes and if I was like launching into uh well he's not that good he's not it's like that would be coming from a place of like the whole thing's a farce
• 28:00 - 28:30 for me I I don't know what I'm doing at all and I don't want anyone to figure it out this is the biggest self-report to me when she is sees your photo and then is thinking of her own and basically detailing exactly what she ex exactly what her biggest insecurities about her own photo is that she's given herself a little bit of a boost on the boobs and the waist Etc you know it's like why did you do that why did you have to list everything that you just
• 28:30 - 29:00 did it's it's guilt yeah I mean jstation used to do this as well it's a very strange attempt to mitigate criticism preemptively you know you're going to get called out for this thing so you call someone else out for the exact same thing before you can be called out for it it just doesn't make any sense it's this weird [ __ ] projection this logic is like I accuse someone else of this thing so I can't possibly be guilty of it because I already accused someone else of doing it what in fact it's just classic hypocrisy I mean it just makes him look worse it's she does that all the time and I feel
• 29:00 - 29:30 like she's yeah I feel like she's even doing that with like Evan right now and like I don't know she likes to blame other people for things that they're doing you when I talk to you about this before I said it comes from a place of her feeling guilty about having uh copied from you and I think guilty is the wrong word because guilty implies that she feels bad about it I think it's something like resentment and feeling a vulnerability there so she knows that she resents the fact that she could get
• 29:30 - 30:00 caught doing this and she resents the fact that that anyone else is up there in this estron with her and so she wants to just destroy the vulnerability and that's what jstation would try to do like he didn't feel guilty that he copied from people he felt like he's going to get caught at any second and he's and in almost like a panick sense he tried to destroy the person who he had copied from and all of this is like news to the person who he just stole from like they're surprised they have no idea what's going on because all of a
• 30:00 - 30:30 sudden this other creator with a ton of a ton of subscribers and Views has copied like frame forf frame their video and is accusing them of plagiarism it seems insane when you're on the other end of it but coming from the criminals perspective they're just trying to cover their tracks and and try to mitigate the damage that could happen from the theft that they just did yeah it seems so stupid when you look at it I mean how can you be that hypocritical and make that exact parallel knowing full well that you've done just that yourself so
• 30:30 - 31:00 it seems insane but in their mind in their head it's the only way that they can mitigate any criticism coming their way it's like someone who's just committed a crime and they're trying to blame it on someone else it's such a bad strategy it's [ __ ] I don't think she's very bright she did that with the uh thumbnails too right there's a tweet of her saying azy had been copying her thumbnails etc for years and then you go through the receipts and Sniper Wolf had the way coping a he from like two years
• 31:00 - 31:30 back even yeah to this day it's still sausages pinned tweet is blaming her now this is where it gets this is where some Nuance has to come into the situation because the easy way to understand this is who did it first one of them was copying the other and and azy was not the one who's been making these accusations Azie is just trying to like just trying to exist and live her life Sniper Wolf is the one who's been accusing her of stealing from her and in defense a he has once tweeted
• 31:30 - 32:00 coincidence and showed that Leah had been copying her that's all a he's done so yes technically they both have made allegations but most of the allegations are coming from the Sniper Wolf camp now the reason that Sniper Wolf could find any examples of Leah doing a video before azy is because azy is inspired by other reaction content so azy will you know is copying if you like from from other channels that she credits so if
• 32:00 - 32:30 they both start to mine the same Source it is it's been it's possible and it has happened that without realizing it azy has made a video that Sniper Wolf has made a similar video to now they they point at that and they go look see she copied her but Azie is not watching Sniper Wolf and you can prove you can prove well there's a lot of evidence that Sniper Wolf is watching azy so it's like they're they're both they're both basically mining viral content from all over the
• 32:30 - 33:00 internet but sniper Wolf's mining includes ay's Channel and azy does not include Sniper Wolf in her sourcing of material I ignore her like the plague I don't want to like I don't want to be just associated with her I don't want to even you know sometimes like when you hang around someone you start talking like them like I don't even want to risk that so I don't want to I don't I actually for the first time like that I saw a full video of hers was through Jack films like being games I was avoiding her before like I
• 33:00 - 33:30 would see has she ever acknowledged sorry has she ever acknowledged that like she's actually lifted content from you like in any kind of way or credited or anything the other way around never has never acknowledged it never and you can actually see if you look at sausages uh tweet uh where they I'm surprised she called her out for it actually six years ago you called her out for copying I mean it's a coincidence she could have like been like yeah coin I but she they got really guilty but if
• 33:30 - 34:00 you zoom in on his tweet to the example he gives on the right and you look at my description in the description I say thank you reaction time for this video idea so I credit the person who I got that video idea from the same person that she got the video idea from that she's taking ownership forh and and they so the moral High Ground here is not originality the moral High Ground is honesty yeah yeah that's where I see a problem with it as well is it's it's the
• 34:00 - 34:30 hypocrisy of uh calling someone out for doing something that you're doing as well she uses these tactics to tear people down and destroy their channels like there's so many people I feel like probably more than we know who like deserve to be have like much bigger channels and who don't right now because of her why do you think YouTube has such a bias that they clearly have a bias towards her why do you think they have that uh I don't really know I guess I have
• 34:30 - 35:00 like some like again I I can guess but I don't know I I wonder like if she I wonder if she's like really good at like kissing their ass in person and they think like oh no she's so nice like the internet's just bullying her that's like one of my theories I guess well big conspiracy theory time yeah do you think it's possible because she's got the personality for it and she's clearly got some connections that you YouTube She's Gone to YouTube and asked them to damage
• 35:00 - 35:30 your channel within the algorithm oh I don't think she asked YouTube to do it but I do think you're on to something there so when Leah started to copy ay's Channel azy and her uh her current manager allowed me access to her channel so I could take a look at the analytics from the inside and they were indicating some some videos where azy had a legitimate viral hit that once Sniper Wolf copied it a year later all
• 35:30 - 36:00 of a sudden AIS dropped in CTR significantly and the stats are I popping so and this this is part of why now some people might be like nerd you run a a channel called thought Patrol and you you know you bust Instagram thoughts and why all of a sudden are you sing for azy now listen I respect a job that's well done and when I'm looking at the analytics for some of her videos her ability to give her audience what they want is it's unprecedented amongst even the four of us talking uh she's got CTR
• 36:00 - 36:30 on some of these videos that was above 20% for years so she's showing me you know now I struggle to get I might have 16% CTR for a few hours when I first uploaded a video now that's where people who've hit the Bell who can't wait for the next video that's where they all go watch it and and that pales in comparison to what hers does in recommended YouTube wide for years a time so like her thumbnails her titles her ability to attract an audience and
• 36:30 - 37:00 then keep them entertained far exceeds like anything that I've ever achieved on YouTube so I'm looking at some of these stats and I'm seeing now she's showing me something that crashed and it goes from 21% CTR for over a year to suddenly getting 1.8% CTR after Sniper Wolf copied her so that's that's an insane anomalous crash and uh could that be correlated to Sniper Wolf deciding to have her own version of that video and
• 37:00 - 37:30 then doing uh negative dranking services against it now we're getting into black market Services here they're on forums that are run by Russians and you know you might pay for it in Bitcoin it doesn't have to be on the Deep Web but there are and now now do not do anything like this if you're someone who's trying to succeed on YouTube this is a massive vulnerability to your ability to keep your channel if you if YouTube figures out that you've done this you'll lose it all so this is not a this is not a shortcut to success wait you said they do it in
• 37:30 - 38:00 Russia almost everything criminal online seems series of videos no I'm like no no cuz there's this one series of videos that I had that randomly stopped doing well it was like eight of them like all in the same time and they all got like a bunch of views coming in from the Ukraine and Russia oh my God I'll show you after let's look into it I I'll show you after I don't know I don't know I don't that is a that's a massive Smoking Gun in my opinion we're talking little bit inside baseball here for YouTubers let me just explain it in ways that you
• 38:00 - 38:30 guys will understand for the reason that a YouTube video will do well is if your title and your thumbnail attracts the attention of someone and they click on the video and they watch some high percentage of it meaning indicating that they like the video how many clicks does that video get over how many total Impressions uh the video gets how many times is it shown to a viewer and how many times do they click it and watch it and then average view duration is the next important thing that's how long does somebody watch it once they've
• 38:30 - 39:00 clicked it now those are kind of the key to going viral and azy has hundreds of videos that had viral CTR if you have anything that's in the 20s that's you're talking a video now pyro cynical has sniffed that percentage of CTR more than the rest of us but uh when you get something that's about 20% CTR now you're talking like that could be on on the homepage of anybody who logs into YouTube these are the kind of
• 39:00 - 39:30 videos sniffed Rel to so a he would have a number of videos in the 20s and then all of a sudden all of a sudden after going head-to-head with sniperwolf these videos go down to 1.8% now that's a that's a terrible video that's a video that them go to zero or go to zero even some go to zero yeah z% I didn't know that was possible so that so what that would indicate is that the video is all of a sudden shown to a bunch of people and they aren't
• 39:30 - 40:00 clicking or they're they're clicking and then watching like none of it so so YouTube will YouTube will mess up two stats or you can potentially mess up two stats with dranking if you open a video and then don't watch it uh that will take it out of the algorithm and if it's shown to a number of subscribers and they're not interested in it that also can take it out of the algorithm so there are Services where you can basically you know you hire a bunch of uh Black Hat YouTube botters you know
• 40:00 - 40:30 have you ever seen a video from Tik Tok of um basically like a it's a warehouse full of phones and there's a Chinese woman who's walking around all the phones and she their YouTube is playing and she's tapping the ad to open up and install a game or to install something that's that's in the ad that's the kind of uh industrial Industrial Bing we're talking about you can hire these illegal services that will do things like that
• 40:30 - 41:00 to make you more money or to get you more views or to drank your competition it's not that farfetched of a theory she's got the motivation to do it a lot of YouTubers big YouTubers have in the past dabbled with view botting right botting their subscribers botting the views on specific videos so if a lot of YouTubers are willing to dabble in that why wouldn't they dabble the other way around and try and affect their direct competitions views and subscribers that way like eliminate the competition through these methods I don't think it's out of the Realms of possibility at all
• 41:00 - 41:30 and if we're trying to pinpoint the day where things changed so far um if we're trying to pinpoint a change in the viewership of sniper Wolf's Channel and tie that to Evan because if we're trying to figure out like how would she know how to do this who would be doing it is it something that's too sophisticated for her or is it something that her partner in crime would do so to speak or maybe not even metaphorically uh October of 2 is when rumors started the swirl that that Evan and sausage had split up their
• 41:30 - 42:00 partnership and if you look on this sausage who who did I say you said Evan and sausage I meany much was all you're not actually wrong you're not wrong when Sniper Wolf and sausage split up their partnership and uh you see on the uh you can see on social blade even September 2022 to November 2022 is the big drop off that's that's where it goes from 650 million down to into the 200
• 42:00 - 42:30 quick oh [ __ ] that's kind of and by December she's down at 250 million So speaking of doxing you know Sniper Wolf doing some nasty [ __ ] behind the scenes well you're going to need something to protect yourself a VPN perhaps and I know no better VPN than Express VPN with the economy and the [ __ ] it's now more important than ever to save money and cut back on expenses for example example I used to spend over $100 a month on streaming services Netflix
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• 48:30 - 49:00 that has like a thousand people working there I've been talking to I've been talking to her and her manager on a call before and they'll be like hang on what's this someone just joined our Network I don't know who this is and I'm like what's going on like they run a pretty tight ship over there it was so great to hear earlier in the podcast when you just admitted just like outright no problems I make videos for kids I'm literally the babysitter so few you YouTubers will ever admit that but saying that like do you have any simps
• 49:00 - 49:30 as well like crazy simps who try to get into your [ __ ] and stuff like that what's your experience with them as a YouTuber yeah so I didn't I didn't used to think that I made a content for children to be honest until I went to a convention for the first time and then they were all much younger than I expected and I was like oh my God I need to stop swearing so much I used to swe all the time and I was like okay I need to uh okay I didn't realize so many of them were so young so that brings up an interesting point you brought up what I thought was a very good under reported
• 49:30 - 50:00 point about the danger of sniperwolf doing what she did to Jack's films you said because she did that on Instagram and not on YouTube that the percentage of people on Instagram who would be more likely to be simps who would want to impress her and who were attracted to her thirst trapping content rather than the young audience who was watching her on YouTube that it was almost more dangerous to do it on Instagram because it's going to be a bunch of you know you're more likely to hit like a lone wolf guy who has a pretty you know poor
• 50:00 - 50:30 connection to reality and would think that she had um was prompting him to come solve this problem in person that that would be more likely to happen on Instagram than it would on YouTube that was a good point because I know from like my own Instagram that they're like on YouTube My audience is like 90% female or like 80% maybe I don't know it was once a away on on Instagram though it's like 60 70% male right so I'm assuming that hers is probably similar uh just cuz you
• 50:30 - 51:00 know I I think it's just for like the just because we were posting photos there and also what I noticed that was interesting is she was only responding to jack on Instagram stories and she was clearly reading her DMS because she was sent posting screenshots of her DMS so I wonder if she was responding and talking to people and like gauging people's reactions by only posting her Instagram stories because he was tweeting at her and then she would respond in an Instagram story it was like so odd it's
• 51:00 - 51:30 like why not respond to him on the platform that he's talking to you on and she went she went to his house and was out in the street zooming in on his door and going come out here and talk like adults and she did that on a platform where she might have majority followers where guys so that that's much more dangerous you know much more dangerous men are men are more adult males are uh you know more likely to commit a crime than a bunch of kids who don't have their own transportation and would be confused by what she was even trying to convey like she did pick the platform
• 51:30 - 52:00 where that would be the most dangerous to do yeah and we don't know whether that was intentional or not but like I don't I wouldn't put it yeah regardless of the intention that that is I think a circumstance that made that even worse what do you think of YouTubers or streamers who've made similar content to yourself and Sniper Wolf who are aiming this content at a younger demographic you know little kids then transitioning or doing stuff that is more adult themed in nature or even just straight up doing an only fans but yet maintaining that
• 52:00 - 52:30 audience on their YouTube at the same time and continuing to make that similar type of content so it's it's it's I have like I don't know I have different uh I have different different like I feelings about this because on one and one hand I would rather be making content for people of my age right like I I would prefer that so there's times when like like I do want to just be my age and make content for somebody my age H so that becomes an issue and I'm sure they face that problem as well but then I
• 52:30 - 53:00 feel like sometimes like there is point where like you have to feel a little bit guilty like for example on Instagram I don't have that many young people follow me on Instagram like I know I noticed that the numbers are higher so I don't feel as bad there but on YouTube I try to keep it much cleaner for that reason but I don't you do feel a responsibility knowing that I do feel responsibility yeah sorry I didn't answer your question I do feel responsibility yeah and do think that like the end of the day like teaching people like what to to do wrong things
• 53:00 - 53:30 is wrong especially when you know that like you're shaping their world and if you're teaching them not to have empathy you're shaping their world like you know like they're teaching kids learn about how to love and how to treat other people and they learn their morals from when they're young so I think that that makes what Sniper Wolf has done 10 times worse or at least much worse than just a normal person any other YouTuber doing it because she obviously exclusively like makes her content for kids or the very young young teenagers or whatever
• 53:30 - 54:00 and now she's going off and doing something like this to Jack's films like that makes it so much more so much worse so much worse I know and you know why she can get away with saying that though because uh our analytics actually don't say that we have kids following us because it's them the kids on their parents' account so you can kind of be like well everybody is over most of the people following me are actually like in their 20s and 30s and it's like that's cuz that's their parents account I think or they just
• 54:00 - 54:30 Li most people I remember I remember lying about my age to play RuneScape CU you had to be 13 so they'll be lying about everything yeah that's true but you can actually like almost prove it yourself that Sniper Wolf has the fan base that she has I mean it's always a lot of speculation and you can't 100% ever prove it but you actually can you're very unique in this because you share such a significant percentage of the demographic you have with Sniper Wolf and even YouTube gave that statistic to you in the past so you will be able to say for an absolute fact that
• 54:30 - 55:00 it is young kids that are watching Sniper Wolf and consuming that type of content because you yourself make that type of content and you share such a similar fan base you had a 90% overlap yeah so there's that's that's a good valid point so there is there is something to be said there again yeah I I do think I do personally think that yeah me and her both have a young audience but there's so many like points of this too it's like sorry I always like like to see Devil's advoca there's also younger kids are more likely to
• 55:00 - 55:30 come to Fan conventions though too to come meet us so there is that point but I still still think that it's majority young kids majority majority young kids and some parents that end up liking our contents just because they're watching with their kids and then the parents continue watching like I get a lot of comments like that where parents are like I started watching your channel like with my daughters and now it's like my guilty pleasure right so it's like there are some older people watching too but I think that
• 55:30 - 56:00 it's because they are exposed to it through their kids to me a young audience is the only thing that explains it like I couldn't even I couldn't put on Sniper Wolf or ailand content and even leave it on in the background while I'm folding laundry like it it just does nothing for me but I can see what I'm trying to think like who does this do a service for it is basically like it's that middle school or younger age person who is everything to them is new everything's a surprise every day it's the first time they're going to have to be presented with some situation that's
• 56:00 - 56:30 crazy someone's going to show them something amazing it's this and they have to make this binary decision is this the coolest thing in the world or is this totally cringe is this totally me or I would never do that right and you're basically you're coding their reaction to things you're giving them a bunch of examples that will help them be a popular person yeah no you're right you're right I actually no one's challenging you you know like you're you're someone with who is clearly popular you're attractive you have nice things you date famous people it's like this is someone who is this is someone
• 56:30 - 57:00 who they would want to be so you have this level of of credibility to where when you give them reactions to things like You're programming them on how to be a cool person in their view that's a good good point or or a criminal yeah and that's why this this like you versus The Shadow version of you like that's why what Sniper Wolf is doing is is damaging and YouTube lifting it up as oh the creator of our dreams I think is like even more damaging it's like the
• 57:00 - 57:30 it's like the insult to injury on top of an injury that they would do that and uh and the the difference between the type of content you make you having the little bit of a morality or the usefulness to it is night and day different than sniper wolves where she's trying to teach you basically like how to steal how to get the money how to you know get away with things so initially you've got the initial damage there of sniper W showing up to Jack's film's house then you've got her publicizing it to her very impressionable fans and then
• 57:30 - 58:00 you've got YouTube on top of that doing very very little about it almost nothing you can say and almost encouraging that behavior by proxy way worse than it appears at surface value do you think they keep up with with the drama do you think they know that you think there's a possibility they just don't know that about all her controversy so there's a window of opportunity right now where they basically realized like they stepped on a hornet nest with this and their response sucked so they're trying to recalibrate and there's people who are writing reports on what went wrong
• 58:00 - 58:30 don't look at CTR and looks and the success of a channel and assume that everything's okay you've got to watch this you've got someone who's saying I have no empathy I'm a psychopath okay that's not the next Mr Rogers do not do not show this to everyone in the world and then say this is our ideal Creator just don't say anything at all and the community is dying to tell you that Sniper Wolf is a bad actor that's what all of this [ __ ] is that's why when I quote tweet YouTube and I just say morons it gets 10,000 likes because
• 58:30 - 59:00 there is so much resentment there that it's too much to even say at this point everyone knows that she steals that she's evil that she bullies it's like there's this massive amount of evidence of her being a bad actor and and people who know YouTube know that well it's a long long history so she doesn't have the respect of her peers no no no no so sorry didn't me interrupt you continue oh no yeah no you're right and that's a good point it's like the her peers and the viewers so it's like they're she has
• 59:00 - 59:30 no friends no Defenders among YouTubers because they all know oh this is someone who you can't like good mythical morning tried to you know sort of catch her star and have her on and they canceled the episode like they got so much blowback from people even really yeah when it was announced that sniperwolf was going to be their next guest so many people chimed in with like yo let me educate you on this I can't believe your platform ing her so they got so much push back that they didn't even come out with the episode oh my God you're
• 59:30 - 60:00 probably not very familiar with this azy because this is the first time you've ever been involved in drama of this nature but to add insult to injury YouTube is not directly censoring although in some cases yes but algorithmically they are certainly hindering any critical videos made about another YouTuber save for a very few special case creators I mean you're making a video on Sniper Wolf now I think it will still do well because obviously Sniper Wolf is like the central Topic at the moment but YouTube
• 60:00 - 60:30 have gone out of their way certainly in the last few years to hinder anyone who's making that type of content criticizing someone else so when you factor in like they're doing all this to promote sniper Wolf's Behavior by not doing anything about it at the same time they're actually like going against anyone who's calling it out purely based on the algorithm itself you know what you find out at the tier of ESS that Sniper Wolf reached when you get into the 20 and 30 million subscribers that's a tier where YouTube has individual
• 60:30 - 61:00 contracts with those creators they start to see them as crown jewels and they they uh give them special deals special ad rates sometimes they'll give them just a big check to post exclusively they'll cut him a big fat seven figure eight figure check so I think Sniper Wolf has reached a tier where she now is it would have some degree of protection they start to see her as an asset to YouTube the type that would feature in a YouTube Rewind I
• 61:00 - 61:30 mean she could be on the [ __ ] guest if this hadn't happened she'd be on the [ __ ] guest list have you been this isn't this isn't conspiracy theory like uh Jake Paul and lelay Pon have both had both disclosed that they got cut uh seven figure checks from YouTube like that they didn't even want I think even Lily Singh also disclosed that as well yeah so people at that tier they've disclosed that they got cut millions of dollars just checks out of the blue from YouTube just to get in their good graces I just asked if you'd ever been in a rewind before Oh me yeah at the yeah
• 61:30 - 62:00 actually that's actually yeah that's actually when I started having issues um after that so I in 2019 I was in and uh YouTube rewind the very last one they did and I I made the top 10 most viewed YouTubers on the platform list and I was the only girl on the list and I imagine that like that not everybody was happy about that and after that my channel stopped doing as well did you get a bunch of like push
• 62:00 - 62:30 back after the rewind from like negative comments wise or uh just what you think might have happened same as us well actually mostly just like the same things as usual like I'm copying Sniper Wolf separate question um separate from Sniper Wolf anyways you worked for Michael mcen before they were famous obviously he's been involved to some stuff what was your experience with him and working on that show um I don't have any bad experience with him to be honest
• 62:30 - 63:00 like she wasn't even aware I I filled her and and her manager in on on Michael's bad reputation she wasn't even aware that this was potentially a derogatory piece uh uh Detail no I didn't know like basically I when I started okay so I I blew up with doing cosplay first and I I'm from Toronto he's from Toronto so he invited me on his show to interview me because I'm a Toronto based cosplayer and then he after the interview he was like he's like you're really good on camera he's
• 63:00 - 63:30 like do you want a job as a host and I was like yeah I would love a job I'm like I'm broke so i i CU I wasn't making money yet off YouTube and I just he would just give me scripts and I would present them and then one day he gave me the snip roll script which just after like my interaction with her on Twitter and I looked at it and it was really bad like I this is the first time I learned about her drama so I didn't know before and I was like oh my God she's kind of a piece of [ __ ] but also maybe we don't know for
• 63:30 - 64:00 sure how much of this is true that I would rather give her the benefit of Doubt and I said I didn't want to do that video cuz me and her were ready off on the wrong foot and I actually asked him to tone it down I was like could you please like tone this down I'm like it's like I'm like this is like for sure going to get her cancelled and like I don't know I'm like it it just it I I didn't want to be like involved with something like that so he hosted the video and then actually tweeted to her and said I went easy on you and then somehow she like found a way to make to make fun of me still and
• 64:00 - 64:30 so azy got the blowback on that because it angered Sniper Wolf and she was like what do you mean you went easy on me and then in her response to that she was like zooming in on ay's butt yeah and saying I have butt pads or something and I'm like a uh an allegation that that azy dealt with for years she was saying so even though azy basically made him soften the script and uh you know to whatever Michael mccruden meant when he said I went easy on you
• 64:30 - 65:00 that was as he's doing and then a he still got punished for that and like basically he wanted me to do the script cuz he was like he basically was like this is what she did to girlon gamer so I don't know if you guys know about this drama but she back in the day the way she became famous was there was this one Call of Duty gamer named Rea I think and girl gong gamer and she was the the most popular commentary Call of Duty player and
• 65:00 - 65:30 sniperwolf made a video exposing her for faking her gameplay meanwhile sniper was doing the same allegedly and then all Rhea's followers left her and went to sniperwolf so he was kind of like this is karma he's like what like you can expose her and then get her followers and I'm like I don't want to do that you know what I mean like I'm like that's not how I want to grow so so Le successfully did a coup of the girl gamer
• 65:30 - 66:00 Community yeah so I asked him to take that stuff out that stuff that was like could get her canceled so he did have my back and he wanted like he wanted me to do well and he was very happy for me when my channel did well so I didn't have any bad experiences with him personally and all the drama he was in I think happened after I left and he kicks so he kicks the Hornets Nest on her and goes I took it easy on you and then the Hornets swarm azy and not him so obviously sniper has said some things online to you has she ever said anything in person cuz you've met her a couple times two times I've met her two times
• 66:00 - 66:30 yeah um so the first time I met her she well actually so we were I got flown out for like a brand deal and I think she was shocked to see me there cu the last time she had like made fun of me I had like 50,000 Subs uh and at this point I I had I think 900,000 so I I got flown out uh to the YouTube space in London and we were doing a brand deal and they booked up like the ping pong bar the night before so everybody can like get acquainted and
• 66:30 - 67:00 there was I don't know maybe like 10 20 people there and everybody was having fun playing ping pong except for her and she was like by herself looking sad in the like on the corner and I kind of felt bad and I was like you know what this is like real life and what happens behind the scenes on YouTube is not real so I want to go and like talk to her her and just invite her to come play with us and I was like Hey like do you want to come hang out and then she just laughed in my face uh and
• 67:00 - 67:30 made me feel really dumb and just feel embarrassed for even trying to include her and afterwards everybody all the the female creators that were there ended up getting a brand deal except for her true yeah she had put off some kind of stink that no one else wanted to really get involved with either yeah yeah we all ended up working on the game and except her and I don't know exactly why but probably a pride thing for her she's probably like I want to be the
• 67:30 - 68:00 only one doing this like all these people are getting it I'm too good for them I wonder if if like she said like I can only do it if like you don't have other people on it and they were like no I wouldn't be surprised oh that's an interesting take okay I didn't think about about that now aie may have to uh have technical difficulties on this part but let me tell a story that I heard from the second time you guys met in person now I've heard this from multiple creators and they were not azy so if she
• 68:00 - 68:30 has to cut her feed on legal advice uh that's what that means at another convention a gaming convention azy is talking to someone in a hallway like I think near the bathroom is what I heard and out of the blue from the side hatch basically launches Sniper Wolf and has to be restrained so so Sniper Wolf is trying to create a physical altercation and azy has no idea what
• 68:30 - 69:00 it's about and it seems to be triggered by like maybe azy just having a pleasant conversation with someone you know like maybe like looking cute or something it seems to Just Launch Leah into a jealous rage that becomes a physical a potentially a physical altercation so so Jack being somewhat concerned now this is a story that's made its way around the YouTube Community when you when you have a physical altercation whether it's on camera off camera off camera it starts to become
• 69:00 - 69:30 rumor you know you start to be known as someone who's like violent who can't be trusted at a party who you need to watch out for because they're like a thug in real life Leah's reputation has preceded her because of incidents like this you know like there are rumors swirling about her being dangerous to be near so this story was told to me several times that Leah is aggressive takes things physical so with that context I mean I don't want to comment on this but fair fair enough fair enough
• 69:30 - 70:00 so with that context deny anything understood now with that context Jack having a a young woman who has shown that she carries a gun in her purse and who is calling her out from the street and who attacks people physically he's probably heard they've just shown up at his house it's not out of the question that Sniper Wolf was there to initiate a physical confrontation or to like to hurt him or his family in some way or at least to insinuate that she was now even in in
• 70:00 - 70:30 Leah and her sister's uh sort of like defense or firing back at him about this they're like what is he scared of isn't he a guy right like kind of insinuating he's he's like L even worse his sister her sister said she's like what you can't fight yeah those words that's where their head was right that's where they this was not like come out and let's talk about th this uh be and really let's talk about it because I think there's a misunderstanding no she was
• 70:30 - 71:00 she was the like come out here and talk about it like adults like that's like the movie you know let's go outside of the bar and fight sort of talk you know that's uh that's Achilles screaming at Hector from you know outside of the outside of Troy or whatever it's like come out right she was literally calling him out to the street I would not have gone out I'm so glad he didn't go out I'm so glad his wife didn't go out wouldn't that be great if she like pistol whipped Jack filmed in the face and he had a big black eye for that
• 71:00 - 71:30 video sorry I shouldn't say wouldn't that be great wouldn't that have been wouldn't that have been a great thumbnail Sniper Wolf pistol whipped me on my in my driveway like she really thinks she can get away with everything that's the I mean I guess kind of she has I didn't really watch any but I know 201617 time there was so many exposing Sniper Wolf videos coming out like videos critical of Sniper Wolf enough
• 71:30 - 72:00 that I would say that her career would be finished by the end of it or at least like no one would have any respect for her so she could never be that successful ever again but either people have a very short-term memory or nothing is that impactful I honestly don't know I think I think people will forget about this again and we're going to be one two years down the line where sometimes it's mentioned in passing that she docks Jack's films at some point mm but other than that like the majority of people watching her content just don't even know about it and the rest have selective memories and focused on other
• 72:00 - 72:30 things I think the key is who is going to forget about it because the community is not going to forget about it the viewers of all this are never going to forget about it but who I think will become unaware and not care about it will be like Nickelodeon you know like they gave her gamer of the year I don't think they did any Research into her gaming chops they just saw here's here's someone in the category and let's make them uh let's make them a nominee and let's give them the award because that's going to look good on our uh you know on
• 72:30 - 73:00 our broadcast that that always seems so crazy to me because the first time someone does anything and say you dislike a person like Mass dislike a person like the first thing you do is start contacting or tweeting out these companies and telling them posting links about what these people have done in the past why doesn't that happen with Sniper Wolf maybe it's yeah that's a good question like but also what F have really Associated themselves with her it's like G fuel see the thing is I think because I think this is a oh did
• 73:00 - 73:30 they oh yeah no they dropped her okay well that maybe there is a little you know fairness in the world Sniper Wolf has sent quite a fair bit of harassment your way I would imagine either her fans or just stirring stuff up how has that affected like you doing YouTube as a living and like your personal life me yeah oh it's affected me like mentally um mainly just because it's it does mess with your head when somebody's
• 73:30 - 74:00 comparing you to somebody who you don't agree with them morally and I've like I've tried to like distance myself from her by trying to now in some ways like like I've tried to like even start acting different so that but she's cuz she's starting to act like me and then I'm trying to act different and then I'm like wait now I I'm not I can't even act like me does that make sense I don't know it's been it's that's with my head log so you know what you do could be copied and then twisted and then also that that's going to be done
• 74:00 - 74:30 by like your enemy who's also watching you and will criticize you if she can it's made it hard for me to even share stuff about myself because I'm like I don't want her to even take my personal stories like you know what I mean I'm kind of like but I think once I talk about it and that's another reason why I want to talk about it is so that people are aware of it and I can finally just not feel like I'm in this prison where I I can't say anything because in fear that she's going to take ownership of it
• 74:30 - 75:00 why you just said is so crazy listen that degree of skin walking is frightening so A's afraid of even talking about her personal life and sharing like Story Time not just because you know everyone is careful about their privacy but because her personal details will be absorbed into the Borg of content from Sniper Wolf that Sniper Wolf will skin walk that biography and then becomes that is the story she tells about herself that's [ __ ] insane it's
• 75:00 - 75:30 really mess with my head yeah do you know if she still copies you to this day or did she stop doing that once she was on YouTube's good boy list or good girl list oh no she still does it she still does it I feel like personality wise even more now but I wonder if that's because she doesn't have like e to help her write scripts anymore she going to say she fake getting like a really really [ __ ] tattoo and then see if she gets she gets a tattoo to copy you just like a fake one oh my God she must
• 75:30 - 76:00 [ __ ] despise herself if she's going out there just trying to emulate and copy carbon copy other people's personalities I mean she must just [ __ ] despise herself again it's not just me guys it's like it's so many other people that she's does this like she's like a blend of people and I think that's why her St change imagine if every time you showed your a little glimpse of your real personality you opened up to someone you got beaten down as and told that you basically are like an evil Psychopathic shitty person you
• 76:00 - 76:30 would start to just not do that as much and if you were trying to commercially commercialize yourself and make yourself into a product you'd look around and be like all right well who do people like who can I act like you know remember this is a this is a woman who calls herself a psychopath basically so she's trying to train herself in how can I behave where people people aren't going to yell at me and she sees oh well A's popular people seem to like her and say she's a nice person let me just absorb
• 76:30 - 77:00 that personality and wear it like a skin suit for myself so you would resent the person who's being this authentically you're like you know because you can't really relate to it you're thinking like why would anyone be this nice you know why does she not even have to try to exude this personality whereas I have to fake it all the time just so people will like me and continue to watch my stuff you know what you know what that's might be a hot take but I kind of I I kind of more respected her when she just
• 77:00 - 77:30 was like honestly like real about she was she she was like like yeah she just owned the fact that she was mean you know and she just but now it's kind of like she is mean but she like pretends she's not and then manipulates people and I don't know she's a villain with a mask instead of just the villain yeah I mean yeah it's the person I dis well the YouTuber that I dislike the most I don't mind pieces of [ __ ] I can deal with sociopaths what
• 77:30 - 78:00 I can't deal with is like the sociopath or the [ __ ] piece of [ __ ] that is pretending to be such a great person and is getting away with it and convincing others yeah manipulating others to believe that like that is the lowest [ __ ] form of social chameleon a sniper wolf with a brand that called called itself toxic and her firing back in a Call of Duty uh in a Call of Duty matchmaking room or something like all of that like yes it's it's off-putting
• 78:00 - 78:30 to have like a to have a gamer of any sort yelling at you and being like I rule you suck you're disgusting whatever but that's a type of person that people can appreciate you know like it might be a more of a niche audience like a uh a super sassy [ __ ] but at least it was authentic and you can be like well she's kind of like a like a keemstar you know she's playing a villain and at least that's authentic but the the villain hiding underneath the azy land mask is much more Insidious and
• 78:30 - 79:00 creepy and I feel like even like bad like I keep on every few seconds I'm like wait is this am I is this is it bad that I'm saying this well look you've been pressed to the point where like you basically you needed you needed people to know what was going on and so you started to reach out to people who were like all right well who tries to tell the truth about things you know and and you had met me before at a convention and and you know that like I don't know I keep it real or something right so I'm calling people
• 79:00 - 79:30 out for fake things you're genely honest it made sense to talk to me about it you know and and then I'm just like tell this story I'm like [ __ ] get it out there you know so I'm pushing this out of this story out of the shadows and into the public so don't think that as he's trying to get involved in drama don't expect this to ever happen again I think this is like a onetime you know knock on wood this is like a onetime drama incident with her and it really is a long time coming you can never 100%
• 79:30 - 80:00 solidify the narrative so that automatically now everyone is going to know that no you were in fact the first person to make this piece of content and she's copying you and not the other way around the problem is people are [ __ ] lazy they're not going to do the due diligence and they're not going to look at the facts and they just don't want to so if Sniper Wolf is going to go out there and start saying stuff like she did this or he did that they're going to take at face value whether she's telling the truth lying or whatever and just automatically accept it that is a significant problem but that's the case
• 80:00 - 80:30 with everyone but the more that you can do to actually put the truth out there I mean that's that's really what you should be aiming for and there's only so much you can do of course because you can't go the rest of your life constantly thinking about if I say this is Sniper Wolf going to react like this or if I don't say this am I are people going to continue to believe that actually know Sniper Wolf for saying is true I mean you can't think like that so all you can tr get it right and just hope you that's that's as much as you can do like as much as you can put forward and just
• 80:30 - 81:00 hope that that attracts as many people as possible into seeing the truth thank you yeah that's how I feel too it's like I don't need everybody to like me I just want to have said my peace and those that like those that are like believe me believe me and those that don't then like yeah that's what it is what I think is um what I think is very honest about your story is you're not trying to take ownership for the content I mean like you freely admit like this is viral
• 81:00 - 81:30 stuff that we're yeah curating and reacting to and this is not me like thinking of this and writing this like this this is just the internet's viral daily slop and I'm talking about it now where you're being honest about it is then when you say I'm getting it from from these various sources and I site them and it's not from Leah and Leah is trying to get in this back and forth of I did it first you did it first and that kind of misses the whole point yeah because it's not her conton she can't
• 81:30 - 82:00 take ownership she didn't like there's like one post she did where she tries to blame Mr Beast for copying her and it's like that I I'm pretty sure the video is like of a it's like a video of somebody who is like post I think they they had cancer and like they they're posting a video and like the somebody's like somebody they know is shaves their head too too it's like you can't take ownership for that video that's their video and that's also like it's a shitty video to try to take ownership of here's
• 82:00 - 82:30 another character revealing difference between azy and Sniper Wolf uh and Azie wouldn't wouldn't even suggest this herself but this is something that that I've seen so A's gotten involved with a charity for sick kids where she raised an enormous amount of money how much money did you raise for a hospital uh I so I I I believe it okay I I feel shy well it's a it's a
• 82:30 - 83:00 lot so she gave of her own money in the six figures I think I think something like a quarter of a million dollars of your own money to this charity is that right something like that okay so I don't want to she's too I respect that I I respect that I respect it so I won't you know and I think I think the the less people know about your charitable givings the the better that is probably the better reward you get for that karmically so she gave six figures of her own money I'll I'll just spill that and then and then raised additional
• 83:00 - 83:30 funds through publicizing this this charity now compare that to one of sniper Wolf's most recent controversies where she as a make AWI request Adam 22 had put her in touch with a dying child who just wanted to talk to Sniper Wolf and Sniper Wolf blew her off something like half a dozen times or three different times set up the call and then ghosted her to the point where the mom in frustration went
• 83:30 - 84:00 public and said you know screw this girl and blocked her and and told basically the news or drama channels or just went public with the fact that Sniper Wolf had ghosted her dying child I that is a completely you know it's like that is a completely opposed type of character it's like the difference between you know as he being being like lawful good alignment in dungeons Dungeons and Dragons and Sniper Wolf being chaotic evil they couldn't be further apart she is literally your evil
• 84:00 - 84:30 twin you probably hate that comparison but like you do the same thing but like she's the [ __ ] evil version of you honestly if somebody was comparing me to somebody who was nice I'd be like okay whatever you know what I mean it just but it's like not do you guys know Mortal Kombat law it's like Molina is the evil clone of katana it's pretty much just that I I cosplayed as Katana oh right true yeah it's all coming full
• 84:30 - 85:00 circle we'll find one of sniper cosplaying as Molina it'll be like the oh look at that photo so that's that's azy like uh bumping into me at a Creator party and uh basically just being like hey you made this video about Sniper Wolf so do you want to hear some [ __ ] I've been dealing with and I'm like yeah sure fill me in and then I'm like what what well like why haven't you told have you told anybody this no and I don't really want to it's like I don't want to get involved in drama I'm like okay can
• 85:00 - 85:30 I tell people no no don't tell anybody I'm like damn like this is way worse than I thought this is so bad it's finally coming out and someone yeah then then someone's like smile and I'm like Ching okay now keep telling me the [ __ ] you know please please tell this story you know it's like she's giving me tea there that's uh you my glass is over filling with tea oh man and there's lots of you know you go to a a YouTuber Meetup and
• 85:30 - 86:00 there's a lot of conversations that start that way where it's like oh hey I saw this video I'm a fan of your work I like your channel yeah yeah yeah and then like nothing comes of it but her what followed up on that initial like oh yeah thanks thanks I was like what like let's sit down can I record this you know like that it was so good well no it wasn't so good it was so dramatic you know like you know can I touch on something about
• 86:00 - 86:30 earlier with um with uh that girl yeah of course of course so one thing cuz like that so she after that drama after she almost got canceled over it uh she did end up going to meet with another girl with from with make wish and all her fans believe that that girl is the same girl and they used that to be like uh people are just trying to lie about Leah like we literally saw the girl like she met
• 86:30 - 87:00 up she went and met up with the girl and like people just want to make up stuff about her and it's just like very manipulative this is 100% what she did this is a SEO tactic that I've seen that I saw her use since the beginning like that's the reason she did a bunch of the you know fake gaming uh Photoshop fails is whatever she was criticized for she would have a number of viral videos that had the exact same title but where she was just talking about something that didn't involve her so her latest scheme with that is when she's she has a
• 87:00 - 87:30 terminally ill child video that came out on darman's channel that is unrelated to her own drama but is meant to show up first and it does yeah it's so Twisted it's so so twisted like I will not be surprised if she comes out with a video in the next like couple weeks that says doxing or stalking yeah no she will not just surprise like I can I'll bet money on it I love that she did this I think she was a little too smart for her own good on in this regard because these videos
• 87:30 - 88:00 where she's talking about um bullying online and all of the things she's accused of she creates all of these sound bites that are so perfectly hypocritical that all I have to do is just play them next to the other [ __ ] she does and it's hilarious that's actually smart I mean Ryan just posted this in the chat I didn't even know this reminds me how Jeffree Star named his dog in a vertic commas drama so when people would search for Jeffree Star drama his dog would show up that's [ __ ] genius that's [ __ ] genius that's oh
• 88:00 - 88:30 my god I didn't even know that what if SN just called her dog like J films doxing [Music] just top 10 jackfilms doxing memes yeah cover it up nice and easy however I mean be's mentioning that doxing is a word is a key word that would negatively impact the video so azy I mean in your video about Sniper Wolf if you literally tell the truth just tell the truth and say
• 88:30 - 89:00 Sniper Wolf doxed Jack's films and you say that just once like already Sniper Wolf is winning because that's diminishing your views within the AL so basically to do better like you should be the one committing the crimes not talking about others committing crimes yeah pretty much well not not quite but yeah not quite but yeah but certainly like discouraging people from talking about these crimes and then sharing this proof and this fact because
• 89:00 - 89:30 if you do something a little bit bad then then the word will come out about if people make videos about you because they're not getting blocked if you do something really bad nobody nobody will find out about it it's a shame that Azie has to make this video at all because it's it can only be a pic Victory there's something about criticism from one female Creator to the other particularly the one being criticized is attractive that some percentage of the audience will always land on oh she's just jealous even if Azie makes all of
• 89:30 - 90:00 these great points cuz you see it when when other female creators are accurately criticizing Sniper Wolf and they're saying everything that we would say you'll see that the people whose personal opinion is Sniper Wolf is better looking than this person they'll say that in their replies they're like ah she just wishes she wishes she had that she wishes she looked like her there's a difference between being jealous and just not thinking somebody deserves something though like I don't think people are jealous they just don't think she deserves it cuz she doesn't you know in the in the court of public
• 90:00 - 90:30 opinion I don't think that you're going to lose this argument but I think that I think you're going to um there's going to be an unnecessary amount of accusations of you just being jealous of her even though there's all this evidence that piles up on your side there's still going to be people that are just like well azilant is just jealous and finally it's coming out and I think that's part of why people like it can be from other guys it doesn't have to be from me but I think part of why people are always prompting me to make videos about her and the public asks me to do it is I think that some of her normal defenses
• 90:30 - 91:00 don't quite work on me you know you can tell true that I do not like that her [ __ ] tactics I can tell are fake I'm not impressed I'm not seduced by it and I also could date a girl who let's say is in the same league with her so oh yeah ni he's so hot her normal defense of like it's like when it's like when Hassan said about Andrew Tate like oh his his Alpha act doesn't work with me because I can I can live the kind of life that that he lives you know I I
• 91:00 - 91:30 know what he means by that you know it's like whatever you think of H whatever you think of Andrew Tate when Andrew Tate Andrew Tate's normal response to criticism was like I'm the alpha you're ugly you're a loser you're below me now Sniper Wolf does that to guys she'll usually her and her sister you see them in replies to people it's all like oh you're a greasy piece of [ __ ] you're so lucky I'm been talking to you and using that on me no no no you know like I will relentlessly and accurately criticize her and on YouTube and it doesn't have
• 91:30 - 92:00 to be me and I think there's a lot of different guys who play that role but she doesn't get to fire back at me that oh you're just you know a greasy Dorito fingered dude who wishes that he could talk to me and I'm making your day it's like no no no and she doesn't get to fire back it oh you're just jealous that I'm that I'm like more attractive than you as a female and you wish I you wish that everybody adored me like you it's like no no no it doesn't make sense so it's like I get under her armor in a way that we don't have to have all of these
• 92:00 - 92:30 distractions like unfortunately I think you're going to have to deal with I mean too many people take things that face value so you are going to get some comments I mean hopefully not right but you are going to get some which are going to be like you're just doing it because your views are lower than hers I mean type thing and been a while that that's been happening right yeah why didn't I do it sooner I think she stepped on that great comedic rake with Jack right like uh she's going up against someone else who gets under her armor because Jack like
• 92:30 - 93:00 he's he's a legend he's an institution on YouTube he has the respect of everybody but he's also like comedic and creative in a way that she can't contend with so when she started being like Oh you're untalented loser or whatever it's like she stepped on a rake that hit her right in the nose and it hit her on the nose every single day every time she talks to him it hits her again again and she can't stop stepping on it I know she can't fight him on that like she's not funnier than him and she's not more creative than him yeah that like I don't
• 93:00 - 93:30 even think that's subjective no and where Jack never took it was I'm going to beat you up like that's not Jack's game you know so I don't know why she thought she could win in that regard that was such a ridiculous attack literally she knows that her consent is that much worse than his that that's what she has to resort to Thug tactics I'm going to show up at your house and call you out and scare you with a gun you know this is the kind of [ __ ] that colossal and I are the ones that have to like you know we we end up being like all right fine we'll deal with it you
• 93:30 - 94:00 know some criminal like that someone who takes it who someone who doesn't play by the rules you know it's not going to be fair it's not going to be back and forth we're dealing with someone who's like doxing guns Hitmen you know it's like for [ __ ] sake like I wish wish J station did all of the above all of the above like can't YouTube do a better job of uh I don't expect them to watch all the content they're looking at this from 20,000 ft but it's like isn't there a a level of success where they where they should take a look at this
• 94:00 - 94:30 like when there when they start sending out Milestone Awards you know when when basically the channel becomes so popular that it's replacing Sesame Street shouldn't they just check it and make sure that it's not like horror content for children that it's not like teaching them how to sell their soul to the devil it it's not that bad late but oh my God like her because of that Omegle thing that went viral her Omegle content was so terrible she was so mean to people
• 94:30 - 95:00 and anytime there'd be a single girl who' pop up on Omegle she would be so rude to them and it was she'd instantly be jealous instantly and she would kind of just like just get into fights with them and like tell them they're fake I just I couldn't because it's not scripted and she wasn't copying you she had to improvise and her real personal it came out which is like let me just bully everybody and say the nastiest thing I can think of now just one thing I want to touch on with what I just said that sounded very blackpilled about
• 95:00 - 95:30 YouTube like I'm expressing my frustration about what they play to the younger Generations like I feel like we're so [ __ ] with what they show kids but listen if you're out there and you have any competence if you understand child psychology if you are good-natured if you're someone who is in you know maybe you would have been in elementary education or secondary education there is such an opportunity to make good content for a younger audience and to make it in a responsible way it's it's
• 95:30 - 96:00 right there for you like you're seeing how abysmal the content can be and still make 10 million $20 million a year it's like that is such a invitation for you to get into content creation and to make something that'll make the world and the Next Generation better off please please come get involved that that's such a good message I love that no that I I've always been I've been saying that forever I'm like it doesn't I don't even
• 96:00 - 96:30 care if it's me I don't care I want it to be anybody who's nice like I don't think you're doing a bad job or I would [ __ ] say it you know like I watched your content and it's like it doesn't I don't think there's anything I need to correct about it is it um you know is it vitamins the whole thing no but I think you put some vitamins in the ice like it is it is junk food but when it comes to a moral issue you always it's almost like you can't help yourself but say the moral
• 96:30 - 97:00 response to things I think you intuitively know that you are training your audience and what I've seen so far is you have a responsible approach to that so even though you're making content that's like it's not for me it's it's it's j what it is it's like vapid dog [ __ ] pretty much it's not dog [ __ ] because dog [ __ ] would actually be poisonous to kids I I think it's I think what Sniper Wolf is making is as toxic as dog [ __ ] but what uh what azy is making is more like you know it's like a
• 97:00 - 97:30 fortified it's like Sunny D you know it's not orange juice it could be better but it's got vitamins in it they want to drink it I do like what you said though nerd I think that if anybody's watching this and they they can make some meaningful content for kids that they should they should do it they should try it yeah get a couple puppets you know and just have them talk to each other and say things that you learned are part of Child Development it's like there is such an opportunity for that maybe that'll be what I make the next tryhards
• 97:30 - 98:00 on and be like can I make children's content that gets 100 million views I'm not the right person to do it either you know but I would say like the competition is massive but at the same time like that's the biggest viewer Base by considerable margin consuming YouTube on a daily regular basis and they don't use ad block so yeah oh pros and cons to that the competition is massive but the the type of content that is coming out it's like it's like a Spider-Man skinned Tyrannosaurus rex that is dealing with
• 98:00 - 98:30 Elsa and having a baby and its Terminator it's like insane algorithmically written and produced content you know people get people talk about like oh imagine if AI is writing the videos and with chat GPT it's starting to write the video essays well AI has been making children's content for something like eight years they've been making content that gets zero views 10 views 100 views and it's just it's I don't think any human has ever even seen it it's just being uploaded uploaded
• 98:30 - 99:00 uploaded hoping to catch on hoping some kid who's looking for that brand that they relate to who's looking for a face that they like that it'll get views and that content is it doesn't make any sense it's not made with anything other than views and money in mind so there's no moral there's it's frightening if you watch any of it it's so scary it'll have like it'll have a Tyrannosaurus Rex eating babies Spider-Man T-Rex versus Iron Man T-Rex and then the two T-Rexes fight and then there's babies and then the T-Rex eats the babies and it's like
• 99:00 - 99:30 what the [ __ ] like that's going to scare the [ __ ] out of a kid I've got two final questions before we wrap this up what in your opinion is the worst thing you felt Sniper Wolf has done to you and the second what is the main thing you're worried about when this video comes out about Sniper Wolf oh okay um it's a good question I think the thing that
• 99:30 - 100:00 H what's the worst worst worst thing I feel like it all just leads to so much I think there's some things that I can't prove that I think she's done but I shouldn't say those um I think uh like what what keeps you up at night like what the first thing you wake up in the morning thinking oh [ __ ] Sniper Wolf again like two like the can I say two things kind of they're kind of the same thing but it's just what's resulted of them so
• 100:00 - 100:30 by by creating this like narrative and I guess kind of like almost trying to replace me it's not only is it like messing with me and making me like feel like I don't like being compared to somebody who's like a bad person because it's so different from what I stand for but also my audience is like straight up getting bullied for it they're getting bullied for watching me and they want to stand up for me but I haven't told my side of the story so they don't have
• 100:30 - 101:00 anything to share or to stand up for me for and that bothers me a lot like whenever I see comments like that it like devastates me like I I have some I have some comments like I could probably share them in the chat where like one of the kids was like they got bullied at they were they got bullied about at a party like like I don't think a big hearty probably like a birthday party about watching about whether they watch me or her and then so they ended up like leaving and going home and I was like oh no uh and
• 101:00 - 101:30 then the main thing that I'm worried about when I Dro this video is one her making up like some type of lie that just [Music] really that's just like a really damaging lie like you've heard about her calling somebody like uh like telling people that they're on the offender list when they weren't mhm like she like ruin that person's life so I'm worried about she her doing something like that but
• 101:30 - 102:00 also I'm worried about her again getting away with it and having no repercussions and just becoming worse and learning how to hide it more and doing more evil [ __ ] and just ruining more people's lives that was so much more than one answer sorry there were two questions there so you had to give multiple answers but they were good well hopefully the if if there's anything that we can do as far as lending credibility to what you're saying I mean I I hope that goes some way to helping
• 102:00 - 102:30 with so like if she if she makes some sort of ridiculous allegation I hope people go well you know colossal and nerd looked into this and they didn't say anything like that you know we spent some have a controversy colossal spent a day with this and and I've certainly spent you know some time on this as well and uh if there was some like let's say you know let's say there was something totally off about your content uh I think I would have noticed I've played enough of your videos at this point to to speak on it and to get a gist of what you're doing and um I don't know like maybe in
• 102:30 - 103:00 some ways you you've got some defenses to that because you've you've reached out to other YouTubers who make completely uh different types of content than you and make critical content and would be looking for screw-ups by you and uh and I don't I don't see problems that I need to speak out with in fact if anything I I think you would you're part of uh um you know one of the few areas of uh maybe like promise or your like green shoots of growth of something
• 103:00 - 103:30 that's not so bad in that uh type of content fact that you work in some some good ethics to think and I think people will just from having listened to you on this call they'll notice the way that you think through things and where your concerns lie thank you for coming on first guest I would have never thought it would be mean a woman a woman I'm honored thanks guys you guys are awesome I was a little scared and I had
• 103:30 - 104:00 nothing to be scared of I thought you guys would be like ripping on me the whole time no usually um if we if we're going to have a guest on or I'm speaking to someone I probably send you the questions beforehand but I didn't actually write any questions down we'll send this to you before it goes live so if you want anything cut we cut no problem I probably won't but thank you oh that's fun and I'll like reshare it with uh my audience too if you guys want we'll get the 10-year-olds subscribing oh wait we already have them because P was a host yeah great job pyro thanks so
• 104:00 - 104:30 much thank you guys have a good day good night talk to you later good night [Music] bye