Why Warren Buffett Is Holding Cash And NOT Investing In S&P 500 Index Fund - Maybe BTC is better?
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Summary
In this video, Warren Buffett discusses the importance of cash reserves and his reluctance to fully commit to the S&P 500 Index Fund, suggesting that alternatives like Bitcoin might be worth considering. He shares personal stories from the Great Depression era to illustrate the enduring psychological effects of financial crises. Buffett highlights that maintaining cash provides the flexibility to capitalize on major opportunities, ensuring Berkshire Hathaway remains robust in unpredictable times. Complementing this perspective, Charlie Munger, Buffett's long-time partner, emphasizes patience, discipline, and a long-term mindset in investing. Their philosophies underline the importance of resilience and foresight, advocating for a strategic approach over impulsive market decisions.
Highlights
Buffett recounts the psychological impact of the Great Depression on American mindset π§ .
Holding cash allows Berkshire Hathaway to invest swiftly during market downturns β‘.
Charlie's conservative cash management is strategic, not overly cautious π.
Munger advises that major financial gains come from long-term investments, not short-term trades π.
Both Buffett and Munger stress the robustness and resilience of the American economic engine π.
Key Takeaways
Warren Buffett keeps cash reserves to seize golden opportunities when others might panic π΅.
The Great Depression left lasting psychological scars, influencing financial behavior for decades π.
Index funds may be a better option than holding cash, but cash offers strategic flexibility π¦.
Charlie Munger asserts that patience is key and wealth is built over time, not overnight β³.
It's important not to lose faith in the American economy β never bet against it πΊπΈ.
Overview
Warren Buffett is known for his strategic approach to investing, tempered with a deep awareness of economic history. In this video, he references personal stories from the Great Depression to highlight why cash reserves are vital. The psychological impact of such catastrophes shapes financial strategies and underscores the need for flexibility to act when golden opportunities arise.
Complementing this philosophy is Charlie Munger, a stalwart advocate for patience and long-term investment strategies. Munger believes in a disciplined approach to investing, avoiding emotional decisions. He views cash reserves not as a sign of hesitance but rather as an essential tool for capitalizing on rare, high-return scenarios.
Together, Buffett and Munger's perspectives offer a compelling case for strategic patience and preparedness. Both are keenly aware of the long-term potential of the American economy and advise against betting against it. Their combined wisdom underscores the importance of maintaining a robust yet flexible investment strategy, allowing them to navigate and succeed through various economic climates.
Why Warren Buffett Is Holding Cash And NOT Investing In S&P 500 Index Fund - Maybe BTC is better? Transcription
00:00 - 00:30 [Music] we had an enormous economic recovery but the minds of people had been so scarred the memories parents told their children 1929 became a symbol in people's minds I mean if you said 1929 it was like saying 1776 or 1492 I mean everybody knew exactly what you were talking about in 1929 my dad who was 26 years of age then was Ed as a security salesman by a a
00:30 - 01:00 local small Bank he sold stocks and bonds but he mostly sold stocks and when stocks fall 48% and you were selling them to people a few months ago you really don't feel like going out and facing those same people so I think my dad probably elected to do as they say now shelter in place which means stay at home and uh there really wasn't that much at our house we just had a small yard it was winter time anyway my dad
01:00 - 01:30 wouldn't have been puttering on the yard anyway and everybody wasn't you know television wasn't there and he and my mother got along very well so under those conditions I was uh born about 9 months later so I didn't notice at the time that the market was closed but the stock market had actually recovered over 20% during that 9 and a half month period or thereabouts people did not think in the fall of 1930 they did not think they were in the Great Depression they thought it was a recession very
01:30 - 02:00 much like had occurred at least a dozen times although not always when stock markets were important but then we'd had many recessions in the in the United States over the time and this did not look like it was something dramatically out of the ordinary actually for about 10 days after my birth the stock market actually managed to go up all of 1 or 2% there in those 10 days well from that point the uh stock market went from level of 240
02:00 - 02:30 to 41 which was a noticeable decline because uh if somebody had given me $1,000 on the day I was born and I bought stocks with it un bought the Dow average my $1,000 would have become $170 in in less than two years that is something that none of us are ever experienced that uh may have had it with one stock occasionally but in terms of uh having a broad range of America marked down 83% in 2 years years had
02:30 - 03:00 marked down 89% of the peak was in September 3rd 1929 was extraordinary and in that intervening period less than one year after I was born just slightly less than one year my dad went to the bank where he worked and had his account and of course the bank had a sign on it closed and uh so he had no job he had two kids at that point his father had a grocery store but Charlie and I both worked for my grandfather Charlie worked there in 1940 I worked there in 1941 so we didn't know each other but but my
03:00 - 03:30 grandfather said to my father that don't worry about your groceries Howard he says I'll just let your bill run my grandfather not exactly he cared about his family but he wasn't going to go crazy and uh one of the things as I look back on that period And I don't think economists generally like to give it that much of a point of importance but if we'd had the FDIC the FDIC started on January 1st 1934 it was part of the sweeping legislation that took place when Rosell came in but if we' had the
03:30 - 04:00 FDIC we would have had a much much different experience I believe in the in the Great Depression people playing on smooth hall here and I mean there's all kinds of things in the margin requirements in 29 and all of those things entered into creating a recession but if you have over 4,000 Banks fail that's 4,000 local experiences where people save and save and save and put their money away and then someday they reach Fort and it's gone and that
04:00 - 04:30 happens you know in all 48 states and it happens to your neighbors and it happens to your relatives it has to have an effect on the psyche it's incredible so one very very very good thing that came out of depression in my view is the FDIC and uh it would have been a somewhat different world I'm sure if the bank failures hadn't just rolled across this country and with people that thought that they were Sabers found out that they had nothing uh when they went there and there was a sign that set closed so
04:30 - 05:00 the Great Depression went on and lasted a very long time but it lasted a lot longer in the minds of people than it did actually in its effects World War II came along and on sort of an involuntary manner we adopted keynesianism we started running fiscal deficits of course that were absolutely huge and took our debt up to a percentage of GDP which had never reached before and never have reached since so we had an enormous
05:00 - 05:30 economic recovery but the minds of people had been so scarred the memories parents told their children 1929 became a symbol in people's minds I mean if you said 1929 it was like saying 1776 or 1492 I mean everybody knew exactly what you were talking about and it affected stock prices in a rather remarkable way it was January 4th of
05:30 - 06:00 1951 that the kid who was born on August 30th in 1930 had finished College before the stock market got back to where it was at that earlier time so take the years from 1920 or 1929 to 1951 and bear in mind that you know the country was only 140 years old when the started that's 20 years out of a this amazing 231 year lifetime of our country that was fled out a time of for a long
06:00 - 06:30 time of no economic growth and no Feeling by people in terms about the wealth of the country the about what American economy was worth but all these corporations that were doing far far far better than they were on all but it took all of that time to restore in the market a price level that was equal to what it was when I was born 20 years earlier so if you think about the fact that we're enduring a few months and
06:30 - 07:00 we'll endure some many more months and we don't know how it comes out and people in the 30s didn't know how it was going to come out but they endured persevered prospered and uh the American Miracle continued but it's interesting in that at the start of 1954 the stock market was the DOW was only at about 280 and I remember 1954 because it was the best year I ever had in the stock market uh the Dow went from 280 or thereabouts at the start of the year to a little over 400 at the end of
07:00 - 07:30 the year and soon as it went across 381 that famous figure from 1929 when it went to 400 everybody wondered is this 1929 all over again and that seems a little far-fetched cuz it was a different country in 1954 but that was the common question and it actually achieved such uh a level of worry about whether we were about to jump off another Cliff that's because the three 381 of 1929 have been succeeded exceeded
07:30 - 08:00 that Senator Fulbright Bill Fulbright of Arkansas who became very famous later in terms of the Foreign Relations Committee but he haded the Senate Banking Committee and he called for special investigation he really was questioning whether we had build another house of cards again and his Committee in March of 1955 with the Dow at 405 assembled 20 of the best Minds in the United States to testify as to whether we were going crazy again the D was at 400 and we'd
08:00 - 08:30 gotten in this incredible trouble before but that was the mindset of the country it's incredible we didn't really believe America was what it was and my boss the reason I'm familiar with this was that I was working in New York for one of the 20 people that was called down to testify and I remember because Ben Graham was the one of the three smartest people I've met in my life and when he testified the Dow at 40 before he had
08:30 - 09:00 one line in there right toward the start and his written testimony and he said the stock market is high looks High it is high but it's not as high as it looks and since that time we felt the American Tailwind at full force and the Dow when we made the slide it was about 24,000 so you're looking at a market today that has produced $100 for every dollar all you did was had to believe in America just by a cross-section of America you didn't have to read The Wall Street Journal you didn't have to look up the
09:00 - 09:30 price of your stock you didn't have to pay a lot of money and fees to anybody you just had to believe that the Amic miracle was intact but you'd had this testing period between 1929 and certainly 1954 is indicated by what happened when it got back up to 380 you had this testing period and uh people really they lost faith to some degree they just didn't see the potential of what America could do and we found that uh nothing can stop America when you get right down to but it's been true all
09:30 - 10:00 along it may have been interrupted with the scariest of scenarios when you had a war with one group of states fighting another group of states and it may have been tested again in the Great Depression and it may be tested now to some degree but in the end the answer is never been against America and uh in my view is as true today as it was in 1789 and even was true at the during the Civil War and the depths of the depression Warren you are a big advocate
10:00 - 10:30 of index investing and of not trying to time the market but by you're having brire hold such a large amount of cash and t- bills it seems to me you don't practice what you preach I'm thinking that a good alternative would be for you to invest most of berkshire's excess cash in a well Diversified Index Fund until you find an attractive acquisition or buyback stock that's a perfectly decent question and I wouldn't quarrel
10:30 - 11:00 with the numbers and I would say that that is an alternative for example that my successor may wish to employ because on balance I would rather own an index fund than carry treasury bills I would say that if we' instituted that policy in 2007 or 8 we might have been in a different position in terms of our ability to move late in 2008 or 2009 uh it has certain execu ution problems with
11:00 - 11:30 hundreds of billions of dollars than it does if you were having a similar policy with a billion or two billion or something the sort but it's perfectly rational observation and certainly looking back on 10 years of a bull mark it jumps out at you but I would argue that if you were working smaller numbers it it would make a lot of sense and if they're working with large numbers it might well make sense in the future at burshire to operate that way you know we committed 10 billion a week ago and
11:30 - 12:00 there are conditions under which they're not remote they're not likely in any given week or month or year but but there are conditions under which we could spend $100 billion very very quickly and if we did if those conditions existed the capital very well deployed and much better than in an index fund and we're operating on the basis that we will get chances to deploy Capital they will come and cl pumps in all likelihood and uh they will
12:00 - 12:30 come when other people don't want to allocate Capital Charlie what do you think about it well I played guilty to being a little more conservative with the cash than other people but I think that's all right we could have put all the money into a lot of Securities that would have done better than the S&P the 2020 hindsight remember we had all that extra cash all that period if something come along in the way of opportunities and so on I don't think it's a sin be a little
12:30 - 13:00 strong on cash when you're as big a company as we are I watched Harvard use the last ounce of their cash including all their prepaid tuition from the parents and plunge it into the market at exactly the wrong moment and make a lot of forward commitments to private Equity they suffered like two or three years of absolute agony we don't want to be like Harvard plus Timber and a whole bunch of the plus Timber and I mean yeah yeah we're not going to change we do like having a lot of money to be
13:00 - 13:30 able to operate very fast and very big we know we won't get those opportunities frequently you know in the next 20 or 30 years they'll be two or three times when it'll be raining gold and all you have to do is go outside but uh we don't know when they will happen and we have a lot of money to commit and I would say that if you told me I had to either carry short-term treasury bills or have index funds and just let that money be invested in America generally I would
13:30 - 14:00 take the index funds but we still have hopes and the one thing you should very definitely understand about virture is that we run the business in a way that we think is consistent with serving shareholders who have virtually all of their net worth in Berkshire I happen to be in that position myself but I would do it that way under any circumstances we have a lot of people who trust us who who uh really have disproportionate
14:00 - 14:30 amounts of burshire compared to their net worth if you were to follow standard investment procedures and we want to make money for everybody but we want to make very very sure that we don't lose permanently money for anybody that buys our stock somewhere around intrinsic business value to begin with we have an aversion to having a million plus shareholders maybe as many as 2 million and having a lot of them ever really lose money if they're willing to stay with it for a while and we know how
14:30 - 15:00 people behave when the world generally is upset and they want to be with something I think they want to be with something that they feel was like the rocket brawler and we have a real disposition toward that group I read Phil Fischer's book conservative investors sleep well well I haven't slept well since he really confused me when he commented that hoarding cash was evil he wrote that instead companies should either put the cash to good use or distribute it to shareholders can I get your thoughts on this well there are
15:00 - 15:30 times when we're a wash in cash and there have been plenty of times when we didn't have enough cash Charlie and I I remember in the late 60s we were when Bank credit was very difficult we were looking for money over in the Middle East you remember that Charli I do yeah and uh they wanted us to repay it in diners and the guy that wanted us to repay him in in diners or diners or whatever the hell they call them was also the guy that determined the value of those things so we were not terribly excited about him on payday and having him decide The Exchange rate on that date but we obviously are looking every
15:30 - 16:00 day for ways to deploy cash and we would never have cash around just to have cash I mean we would never think that we should have a cash position of x% and I frankly I think these asset allocation things that tacticians in Wall Street put out you know about 60% stocks and 30 we think that's total nonsense so we want to have all our money working in decent businesses but sometimes we can't find them or sometimes cash comes in expectedly or sometimes we sell something and we have more cash around
16:00 - 16:30 than we would like and more cash around than we would like means that we have 10 or 15 cents around because we want money employed but we'll never employ it just employ it and in recent years we've tended to be cash heavy but not because we wanted cash per se in the mid 70s you know we were scraping around for every dime we could find to buy things we don't like lots of Leverage and we never will we'll never borrow lots of money at Berkshire it's just not our style but you will uh find us quite unhappy over
16:30 - 17:00 time if cash just keeps building up and I I think one way or another we'll find ways to use it Charlie I can't add anything to that today we're diving deep into the wisdom of one of the greatest investors of our time Charlie Munger you may know him as the longtime business partner of Warren Buffett at Berkshire Hathaway but his influence stretches far beyond that munger's unique approach to investing rooted in patience and discipline has been instrumental in building immense wealth over the decades
17:00 - 17:30 so who is Charlie Munger born in 1924 Munger is an American investor businessman and philanthropist as the vice chairman of Berkshire Hathaway he's played a pivotal role in shaping the company's investment strategies his partnership with Warren Buffett began in the 1970s and together they've transformed birkshire Hathaway from a struggling textile company into a multinational conglomerate worth hundreds of billions of
17:30 - 18:00 dollars munger's investment philosophy centers around a few key principles first and foremost is patients he famously said the big money is not in the buying and selling but in the waiting this means that true wealth is built over time by holding on to Quality Investments and allowing them to grow unlike many investors who chase short-term gains Munger emphasizes the importance of a long-term perspective another Cornerstone of his philosophy is discipline in the often
18:00 - 18:30 volatile world of investing it's easy to get swayed by market hype or Panic during downturns Munger advocates for a rational approach making decisions based on careful analysis rather than emotions he believes that staying the course with a wellth thought-out investment strategy is crucial even when faced with Market turbulence Munger also Champions the idea of continuous learning and a multidisciplinary approach to thinking he encourages investors to expand their
18:30 - 19:00 knowledge across various Fields such as psychology history and economics to make more informed decisions this broad understanding helps in recognizing opportunities and risks that others might Overlook but perhaps one of the most intriguing aspects of munger's philosophy is his emphasis on character and ethics in investing he holds that integrity and honesty are not just moral choices but smart business strategies trustworthiness builds reputation and in the long run it's
19:00 - 19:30 beneficial for sustained success in this video series we'll explore how monger's principles can guide you in Building Wealth through patience and disciplined investing we'll delve into his strategies for maintaining a long-term mindset the power of reinvestment and techniques to avoid impulsive decisions during Market crisis by understanding monger's approach you'll gain insights into how patience isn't just a virtue but a practical tool to for financial success whether you're new to investing
19:30 - 20:00 or looking to refine your strategies the lessons from Charlie munger's philosophy are Timeless and highly applicable in this segment we'll explore why adopting a long-term mindset is not just beneficial but essential for successful investing so why is thinking long-term crucial for Building Wealth Charlie Munger firmly believes that wealth isn't built overnight it's the result of consistent patient efforts over for many years he often emphasizes that
20:00 - 20:30 understanding the long-term potential of Investments allows you to make more informed and rational Decisions by focusing on the bigger picture you're less likely to be swayed by short-term Market fluctuations or fleeting Trends the difference between short-term and long-term investing is significant short-term investing often involves trying to capitalize on immediate Market movements which can be unpredictable and volatile this approach may lead to Quick
20:30 - 21:00 profits but it also comes with higher risks and the potential for substantial losses Market timing requires precise predictions about price movements something even experts find challenging on the other hand long-term investing is about buying quality assets and holding on to them for extended periods this strategy leverages the power of time and compound growth by investing in companies with strong fundamentals competitive advantages and solid management you position yourself to
21:00 - 21:30 benefit from their growth over the years this approach reduces the impact of short-term Market volatility and aligns with munger's philosophy of patience and discipline let's look at some examples of success resulting from long-term strategies consider the case of investors who bought shares of companies like Amazon or apple in their early days and held on to them despite experiencing market downturns and periods of stagnation those who maintain their Investments have seen tremendous growth
21:30 - 22:00 over time the key was believing in the long-term potential of these companies and resisting the urge to sell during short-term declines another example is the overall performance of the stock market historically the market has trended upward over the long term despite short-term Corrections and crashes investors who remained invested during challenging times such as the financial crisis of 2008 or the Market dip in early 2020 often recovered their
22:00 - 22:30 losses and saw their portfolios grow as the market rebounded Charlie Munger himself has practiced this long-term approach throughout his career together with Warren Buffett he invested in companies that they understood deeply and believed would perform well over decades not just quarters this patience allowed them to capitalize on the full growth potential of their Investments contributing significantly to birkshire Hathaway's success adopting a long-term mindset
22:30 - 23:00 also helps mitigate emotional decision-mak short-term Market movements can trigger fear and greed leading investors to make impulsive choices like Panic selling or speculative buying by focusing on long-term goals you're more likely to stay the course and avoid reacting to the temporary Market noise furthermore a long-term perspective aligns your Investments with your financial goals such as Retirement planning or funding educ a it encourages
23:00 - 23:30 consistent investing habits like regular contributions to retirement accounts which can significantly enhance your financial security over time in essence embracing a long-term mindset in investing is about patience discipline and confidence in your investment choices it means understanding that building substantial wealth takes time and that staying committed to your strategy is vital even when faced with Market volatility as Charlie ER wisely puts it the big money is not in the
23:30 - 24:00 buying and selling but in The Waiting by internalizing this principle you position yourself to harness the full power of your Investments and pave the way toward lasting wealth