Will Islam really RISE from the West? | Dr Shadee Elmasry

Summary

This stimulating discussion led by Dr. Shadee Elmasry at OnePath Network delves into the organic growth of Islam in Western societies. Dr. Elmasry highlights the natural way Muslims integrate into communities without a master plan, just through living their daily lives dedicated to their faith. The conversation ranges from the strength found in numbers of believers to the struggles against political and societal challenges. Dr. Elmasry emphasizes a return to spiritual roots and the love of Allah as the true cornerstone for success and influence in any society.

Highlights

• Dr. Shadee Elmasry discusses the 'natural' rise of Islam in Western contexts, stressing that there's no grand scheme, just a way of life 🌿.
• Islam offers a way of life that, through adherence, outlasts opposing cultural norms 🌄.
• The conversation emphasizes the importance of love for Allah as a means to true victory 🕌.
• Muslim communities can thrive in Western societies by simply living faithfully and integrating sincerely 🌟.

Key Takeaways

• Muslims in the West grow naturally by living their faith sincerely and openly 🌱.
• There's no master plan to dominate; it's about organically sustaining their way of life 🌍.
• True victory lies not in numbers or wealth but in the love for Allah and living righteously 💖.
• Challenges from Western powers and propaganda can't diminish the spiritual resolve of the Muslim community 🇪🇺.
• Achieving unity involves bridging the gap between scholarly knowledge and everyday life 👥.

Overview

Dr. Shadee Elmasry features in an insightful conversation at OnePath Network, dissecting the perception that Islam is on the rise in Western societies. He refutes the notion of a grand scheme for taking over but stresses that the natural way Muslims live their lives is leading to more significant acknowledgment and presence.

The conversation broadens from lifestyle adherence to overcoming major stereotypes and political challenges. Dr. Elmasry touches upon battling against misinformation and fostering a community that genuinely embodies their faith practices as a natural form of dawah (missionary work).

Lastly, Dr. Elmasry underscores the critical importance of spiritual rejuvenation among Muslims. By placing love and devotion to Allah at the center, he believes Muslims can achieve true success, advocate effectively for their beliefs, and maintain their religious identity within Western cultures.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction and Context The chapter titled 'Introduction and Context' explores the notion that Muslims are not seeking dominance but are simply living their lives according to a 'superior way of living.' This way of living, according to the chapter, is enduring and sustainable. Muslims find themselves in a world overshadowed by giant corporations, media powerhouses, and heavily funded entities resembling an approaching tsunami. The narrative suggests that Muslims are observing these developments from the shores, while their way of life continues.
• 00:30 - 01:00: Introducing Dr. Shadee Elmasry In this chapter, the discussion focuses on addressing the challenges posed by contemporary political landscapes and the metaphorical 'Raging Waters' threatening our societies. Dr. Shadee Elmasry, an esteemed scholar from the Saina Society and currently in residence at the New Brunswick Islamic Center in New Jersey, joins the conversation. The chapter underscores his insights on navigating 'the Seas ahead' and promises to delve into his perspectives and expertise.
• 01:00 - 02:00: Dr. Shadee's experience in Australia Dr. Shadee discusses his love for Australia, noting that it's his third visit and he hopes it's not his last. He appreciates the sunny weather with almost no humidity, especially considering it's winter.
• 02:00 - 04:00: Dr. Shadee's online presence and podcast journey The chapter discusses Dr. Shadee's experience with the studio of an online platform, noting it is their first in-person visit after previous online interactions. Dr. Shadee comments on people wearing heavy clothes in 60-degree weather and admires the well-done studio setup, which includes seats for a live audience.
• 04:00 - 07:00: Challenges with content and social media The chapter discusses the geographical distance of Sydney, Australia, from places like New Jersey, highlighting the long travel needed to get there. Despite the distance, people are willing to make the trip due to the city's beauty. Sydney is described as a beautiful city situated on a gorgeous continent, with wonderful weather, especially on the Pacific side, which the narrator prefers over the Indian Ocean.
• 07:00 - 10:00: Dr. Shadee's approach to connecting with regular people Dr. Shadee is a consistent figure in the online space, known for his educational uploads. He has been impactful in the 'da' sphere, with his podcasts and discussions covering a wide range of topics. The summary encourages others to check out his YouTube page for insightful conversations, like the recent one with Hass Spiker.
• 10:00 - 14:00: Muslims in the West and media influence The chapter discusses the inception of a podcast aimed at discussing the influence of media on Muslims in the West. It began with a casual suggestion from a tech-savvy individual in 2013, who proposed a conversational format involving a layperson and a knowledgeable individual. Despite initial unfamiliarity with podcasting, the project started in the narrator's office, where the first recording inadvertently turned into a lecture.
• 14:00 - 20:00: The importance of loving Allah The chapter discusses the process of creating a dialogue series with the goal of expressing the importance of loving Allah. The conversation setting started informally, disregarding cameras and recording devices, aiming for genuine discussions. It began with a few individuals and gradually expanded to include more participants, hosted in a casual setting like a kitchen. Over time, the discussions grew in popularity and reached a broad audience. The essence of these dialogues centers on sharing love and devotion towards Allah, illustrating genuine faith and the organic growth of the initiative.
• 20:00 - 30:00: Protesting and politics in the West The chapter discusses the initiatives taken by a community to repurpose wasted space into something beneficial. Initially, they experienced a lull in activities until they started a soup kitchen in downtown New Brunswick. It highlights the transformation of the third floor of a building from a useless area into a studio. This change was inspired by a community member's suggestion, demonstrating the community's resilience and ability to adapt by investing time and money to create a positive and productive space.
• 30:00 - 39:00: Interfaith dialogue discussion The chapter titled 'Interfaith dialogue discussion' describes setting up a studio for dialogues. The narrator describes the arrangement and ambiance of the space, mentioning that it was assembled by a few tech-savvy individuals in a narrow room. With cameras in place, the atmosphere is described as comfortable and spacious, surrounded by many books. The narrator expresses a passion for the dialogues, stating that they enjoy reading from the various books and discussing for extended periods, emphasizing authenticity and a dedication to the facts.
• 39:00 - 46:00: Working with politicians and political systems This chapter discusses working with politicians and political systems, highlighting challenges such as language barriers and unscripted discussions. The speaker critiques the nature of podcasting, particularly how clips are often taken out of context, which affects the genuine exchange during Q&A sessions.
• 46:00 - 60:00: Islamic community strength and challenges This chapter discusses the popularity of 'shorts' and 'reels' on social media, illustrating how clips without context can lead to misunderstandings or misinterpretations. The text references a specific example where a clip about the topic 'Can Jinn marry humans?' was taken out of context, resulting in criticism. It highlights the challenge of communication within the Islamic community, where complex or sensitive topics may be oversimplified when shared as short clips.
• 60:00 - 72:00: End times and signs of the hour The chapter discusses the strategic approach needed when creating short content, such as videos or messages, because they can easily be taken out of context. It highlights the importance of being calculated and deliberate when deciding what content to condense into a short format, recognizing that such content can quickly gain popularity. The conversation also touches on the appreciation of unfiltered, spontaneous interactions in streams, contrasting this with the planned and calculated nature of shorts.
• 72:00 - 88:00: The concept of Khilafah The chapter discusses the concept of 'Khilafah' and appreciates the authentic and sincere way that Dr. Sh presents religious content. The simplicity and clarity with which the religious concepts are conveyed make them accessible to the average person. There is a mention of unique and memorable moments from past live streams, including an incident involving a goat.
• 88:00 - 97:00: Role models and personal guidance in Islam In this chapter, the speaker shares a personal anecdote about their time in England working on a PhD, a period characterized by intense academic focus and limited social interaction. After completion, armed with knowledge on the subject of 'daah,' they return home with the enthusiasm to implement their learning by giving talks at a local level. The experience highlights the importance of role models and personal guidance within the Islamic community, as the speaker transitions from theoretical learning to practical application.
• 97:00 - 110:00: Concluding thoughts on love and gratitude towards Allah The speaker reflects on the experience of giving talks about love and gratitude towards Allah, describing how people seem unresponsive and it feels as if speaking to a wall. This leads to a realization that, having been engrossed in books his entire life, he feels disconnected from understanding what resonates with people, what they discuss in their daily lives, or what brings them joy and laughter.

Will Islam really RISE from the West? | Dr Shadee Elmasry Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 just the way that we live will result in success and the thing is about it is that these guys are not trying to take over they're just living their lives there is no master plan in our umah they're just living their lives as Muslims it just so happens they're on a superior way of living a way of living that will Outlast yours Muslims find themselves today on the shores observing an approaching tsunami a vicious tidal wave of giant corporations media powerhouses and heavily funded
• 00:30 - 01:00 politicians how do we aboard the ship that will save us from the Raging Waters and who will help navigate the Seas ahead joining us today is Dr shadan maseri conveniently from the Saina Society he currently serves as a scholar in Residence at the new bronzer Islamic Center in New Jersey Dr Shad mus it's an absolute honor and privilege to have you here at the one stud thank you for having me
• 01:00 - 01:30 [Music] how is everything how you enjoying Australia I always love Australia this is your third second time third time wow and hopefully not the last time it's the you got the best Sun you got almost no humidity yes right and this is your winter which is like gorgeous weather no it's fast as freezing I I can't do it
• 01:30 - 02:00 they told me bring bring heavy clothes I see people walking around in Parkers right but it's like 60° out what do you think of the studio this is your first time in the one part Studio on before on the actual platform but your first time in the actual Studio yeah I think the first time was just online right we did it online yeah uh but this is a gorgeous Studio congratulations well done well done you got a good Studio here and you got seats I see for a live audience and uh very nice nicely done I think people often
• 02:00 - 02:30 forget that we are actually based in Sydney Australia which is at the far ends of the corner of the earth you from all New Jersey it's it's a very very very long way uh for you to come here down here it's a long way but people make the flight you could see why they make the flight because as soon as they come they land it's like a gorgeous City yeah it's a gorgeous continent Sydney's quite beautiful I do have to say yeah Sydney's Sydney's gorgeous the whole country is uh weather's beautiful you're in the Pacific I like the Pacific side probably more than I haven't seen the Indians I've never been on the Indian Ocean M but the Pacific side's really
• 02:30 - 03:00 nice Dr sh um Kam was just mentioning you know this is your first time in the shoting we have to say that you are probably the most consistent di online with uploads I've learned so much from s society and your podcast nothing but facts I highly recommend anybody at home to check out Dr sh's YouTube page I remember recent talk with yourself andad Hass Hass Spiker yeah beautiful conversation you've had a plethora of topics that you discuss uh Subhan Allah tell us a little bit you know about your your work online in the da sphere and
• 03:00 - 03:30 how you know how did you actually start that well there a brother who was in the tech world and he said we got to do a podcast and this was like 2013 or something and I had even no clue what he was talking about so he said listen we'll just uh the theme will be a regular guy himself and someone who is in the world of knowledge myself and we'll just talk don't think about giving a class given a lecture we'll just talk so we we do the first one in my office and I basically gave a lecture right and
• 03:30 - 04:00 he said no no this is not the we this not what we want to do let's just talk as if there's no camera here and as if there's no recorder here so we did that and we started to do second one then we added Alex and sad and we started doing it in his house in his kitchen and we would just kick it back on a Monday night and just talk for two three four hours and I wouldn't see it any again he he'd publish it he'd put it up and he'd monitor everything and um it just took off from there and it's So eventually
• 04:00 - 04:30 unfortunately that brother he moved so we actually had a dip for a while we didn't do anything for a long time and then we got the soup kitchen as you know we have a soup kitchen right in downtown New Brunswick and the the third floor was just like waste it was just like nothing and someone said or air of our community he said in at mbic he said this got to be a studio so we put the time and money in we made it a studio it's like probably this long but only
• 04:30 - 05:00 the width is like not even half of this this room right so we put the studio together there and um we then we did it we get put one guy behind the desk got a couple nerds to put cameras and stuff up right some of these techie kids and and we did it I love doing it to be honest with you I always tell people in the audience that nothing but facts I could sit there for hours I have a lot of books it's very comfortable right I got a lot of books it's spacious it's comfortable uh and I put my books and I just read from the books you know things
• 05:00 - 05:30 that people generally probably wouldn't read maybe they can't read because it's in Arabic and maybe they don't speak Arabic and it's not structured just like whatever happened to be interested at that time and then we open up for Q&A afterwards and the Q&A is open it's not doctored it's not tailored and whatever comes comes and they always the you know what kills me about the podcast is afterwards when they clip shorts oh you're not are deadly you're not a fan of them I mean
• 05:30 - 06:00 shorts are the most popular thing in for everybody right but by far people scroll through shorts and reals but what sometimes when there's no context you're going to get skewered right sometimes I'm thinking are these guys out to get me the stuff that they post right like the the Gin marriage one can Jin marry a human right one of the crazy questions you had in your c one of the yeah someone so someone asked that question then someone posts a short uh of it just clipping that out and people are like wow people dying in why you talking
• 06:00 - 06:30 about but they don't realize in the context of things it's like a passing Q&A it's like a shorts can be Killers MH because they take the context right out of things I'm a fan of shorts but they need to be done really well they need to be done very strategically you should like be very calculated in what you choose to turn into a short because they can blow up very fast well you guys um everything that you do is calculated right it's prepared the the stream is just everything's off the cuff like literally everything that's a lot of people appreciate and actually appreciate that about your stream it's
• 06:30 - 07:00 like it's very authentic very sincere and you feel like you're there in the same room with Dr sh and I appreciate that I think we've con you've conveyed the religion so beautifully in a very simplistic manner that the average person can just watch a real and actually get you know once they clipped you know accordingly everything that they need from the question and they've been very beautiful I can't you know give a plug more than enough to watch your content M I know you've had some crazy stuff I think there was a goat on one of your live streams yeah we had we
• 07:00 - 07:30 let me tell you a story about before I tell you about the goat uh when I came back from doing the PHD so I'm like locked up in England doing this PhD for three years literally nothing but just the books and I had a few friends but uh and we went to some different magetas and everything but overall you're just with books for three for three years and the years before that doing the Masters so I came back and I'm like all right my whole subject was daah I'm going to come back and I'm going to do da so I start going to the local M and giving h and they're like welcoming because there's
• 07:30 - 08:00 not a lot of people want to give talks so I'm giving these talks and I'm preparing and I got like notes I got footnotes and I'm giving this talk and there is no reaction at all there like nothing is going on it's as if I just talked to the wall and I started realizing I don't know how these people think because you just been with books your whole life and I don't know what they what do they talk about what makes them laugh I had no clue about this so I
• 08:00 - 08:30 I went about this radical idea I said you know what I'm not going to open a book for 10 years I it's a crazy idea right I'm not going to crack a book for 10 years that was my goal I don't know if I fully kept it but uh the whole idea was how do I get my mind into the into the bluecollar person's mind MH how do I understand his life so I started do these things just to understand so I uh invited some guys and I went out to shop right and I bought like like a Super Bowl video or something right back in
• 08:30 - 09:00 the day shop right it was like a supermarket they was selling a DVD about the latest Super Bowl sorry DVD no J so uh I'm trying to do all these things to see what do regular people do because when you're a PhD student you lose touch with regular people and I didn't have like a brother someone who was uh I could hang out with who was out of that world so I was like all alone even my wife was a PhD student too so I started inviting these guys over and and they're like what are you doing I'm like I'm I'm discovering you
• 09:00 - 09:30 guys discovering you people right so I got some chips and we put the Super Bowl video in we watching the Super Bowl uh basically recap you know what Super Bowl is yeah yeah of course like an American football World the rest of the world may not know it but it's American quite big of here in Australia surprising oh they like it it's like rugby basically but a little bit different so I'm sitting there trying to discover what regular people are all about right and that was a whole new world and it was so important for me to to to get out of the
• 09:30 - 10:00 world of books for a little bit and get in the world of regular people I think the problem is I don't think I get out right I I never I don't think I ever made it back to the world of books but I much like the world of regular people and that was so important in daa to be able to to to live the a world of regular people and get out of that nerdy World Bridging the Gap between the masss and the scholars I think it's crucial for that's what it is and I was hanging out with some academics and they're like they have some arrogance and I'm
• 10:00 - 10:30 thinking what are you arrogant about like 0.01% of the world population cares about your little theories MH so I don't understand what you're arrogant about like you have zero impact on the world you may imagine that you have some impact with your 12 other Specialists MH in the academic world but you have zero impact nobody cares you didn't benefit anybody MH and that to me IM and Hadad that's what he's all about mhm taking those conversations to the messes
• 10:30 - 11:00 uh abdah he lived from 1634 to 1721 in when it was taken over by the Shia the zis and his whole point was what is the value of knowledge if it's sitting like between your head between your two ears in your head the value of knowledge the of a scholar is what he's able to do with it to transmit it and if that means that the other up Scholars you know find you distasteful then they you're
• 11:00 - 11:30 distasteful right who cares about them they're useless he used to call them they just have the image of knowledge but they've benefited nobody so the key is really benefit and passing it on and in order to benefit you have to really know the person that you're dealing with and you have to sort of live in their shoes and that's that's what I what was ended up doing Dr sh on that point do we have a chance you know as Muslims with our limited resources you've got your
• 11:30 - 12:00 nothing but facts we got the one pass podcast do we have a chance against like the husers of the world the Israeli propaganda machines the mtvs of the world the American funded media corporations of the world do we have a chance to compete against them with our voice with our messages so that it is heard at a higher degree there's not a that's not the right question the right question is do they have a chance with the one out of four population of Muslims in the world do they have a
• 12:00 - 12:30 chance is the question think that's a good despite the millions and millions of funding that they have they have millions of dollars but they don't have millions of people they do not have millions upon they have billions of dollars not Millions but they don't have billions of supporters like we can't forget the human beings on the earth is matter far more than the smoking mirrors of the media like human beings on the earth who do regular things on every uh every day see the truth they see the truth and understand it and they know
• 12:30 - 13:00 who the bad guy is and who the wolf is and by the way even if they didn't it wouldn't matter Allah knows what's happening but here's a problem here's my biggest issue none of this stuff matters if our umah doesn't return to loving Allah again not going to ever get support if if our um had a billion had half the world population and three qus of the money we would still lose as Allah Victory with Allah is like a switch we just have to hit the right buttons and Allah says
• 13:00 - 13:30 love is far more important than all these things a group of people who truly love Allah they're going to get Victory and in um this um's got to return back to love of Allah it's not there let's look at it mathematically what's spent what how much more money is spell is spent on entertainment in the Arab world just take the Arabs for example leave off Pakistan for a second but Pakistan's as you're as bad by the way I'm just kidding but Pakistan is in the same boat right
• 13:30 - 14:00 entertainment or or or or Quran like where is the energy we can't measure energy okay we can measure money because where money is spent you know human human energy is moving right entertainment or Quran Quran meaning Dean in general yeah there's no doubt about it the entertainment industry financially trounces the amount of spending that's done on the matters of Dean and don't say oh that's an industry and this is not an industry it's a Financial loss it's not a financial loss it's it's Financial loss
• 14:00 - 14:30 because you made it that way and entertainment is a financial gain because you made it that way it's an industry because you made an industry 100 years ago it wasn't an industry it wasn't a place you made money by making people laugh right but because we love it we found a way to make an econ economy out of it if we love the dean we could make an economy out of that too right so just look at the the numbers numbers don't lie we're in um we got to return back to love of Allah there's no everything else is a minor detail money is a detail numbers of people is a
• 14:30 - 15:00 detail people don't understand with Allah if he wants something to happen he just hits a switch he says and Allah does not give Victory to people who don't love him he gives Victory to people who love him and our um that's the Toba that this um has to make that's got to be the number one theme if you fix your direction of your heart everything else will follow afterwards so I never care much about population I don't care about number we got population and benefits
• 15:00 - 15:30 nothing right um money we have more money than them mhm you telling me Saudi Emirates all these countries don't have more money than America what Europe and Israel they could stop these civilizations these countries co cold in one night OPEC but they don't do it they they can't they don't have the to they will never be given the to because their hearts are in the wrong place return to the love of Allah and let that be the center of all our messaging in oil of look at the what the Quran says whoever
• 15:30 - 16:00 turns their back on this Dean whether through apostasy or just we're not interested anymore the Arabs are not apostates they're just not interested not interested in the dean go and give a talk on the dean somewhere in an Arab country first of all you're going to get arrested that's number one unless it's government stamped secondly no one's going to Care their hearts are in a different world like La Land
• 16:00 - 16:30 he loves them he loves them and they love him so yeah that's the key yeah it's crazy that I guess in the Western World you see a lot of Arabs Muslims you know pakistanis people from the Muslim world living in the western world but their hearts are attached to the dean and I don't want to say this to like downplay you know the Arab world I'm sure there are no I'll downplay it for you they are the whole thing is rotten you can take
• 16:30 - 17:00 it the whole thing is rotten the whole thing is rotten and you benefited you benefited you love the dean the she who founded One path loves a Dean is because Allah blessed you with not living amongst them if you lived in Lebanon if I lived in Egypt with my with people of Egypt I probably would have caught the disease of downplaying the dean and not caring about it it's not cool to care about it it's you push it away something from the past
• 17:00 - 17:30 that is a disease that they have and Allah took people out put them in the Western World so they don't have that disease you have to quarantine from them I think one of the the problems that I have seen firsthand is the glorification and the romanticizing of Western values and the Western World in the Muslim world but it takes one to live in the western world to see how empty This Promise is to see how empty this American dream really is and when
• 17:30 - 18:00 you realize look it's actually empty and we have so much more we can actually say wholeheartedly and with full conviction what Islam offers is multitudes better worlds better than what the West offers in terms of their dream and their Vision well their problem their their success is actually giving people freedom to do things and having a set of laws that you could pretty much predict most of the time of course there's corruption but most of the time the laws are what they are what's on paper is actually what
• 18:00 - 18:30 happens in the courts a lot of times I can going to say a whole a whole bunch of time uh that it's 100% but that that's number one number two the streets are clean the place is clean that's really important for psychological uh you know stability cleanliness in the streets and pretty much Justice in the courts like if I bring you a contract if we disag a contract and we take it to court I don't have to worry that you're going to go behind my back pay someone off um that's not going to happen most of the time not gonna happen right so that's relative Justice and cleanliness you look at
• 18:30 - 19:00 those two things to me they're the these are the two Hallmarks of uh of a good country their problem is that they guaranteed happiness through material wealth and that's always going to be a fail so I think Muslims benefited the most from living in the west because we have this relative stability and cleanliness and justice but we're able to use that to find happiness where it truly is which is in the remembrance of Allah in the remembrance of Allah
• 19:00 - 19:30 right and people love the dean once they taste it I mean you ask around why we living in the west like wearing turbans wearing thobes anything associated with Allah and his messenger and those Scholars and those people we love it and that's a trajectory that's more optimistic about Muslim the Muslims in the west than it is in the East where they sort of fell out of that love and I'll tell you another see proof like why to say these the Arab world is in a is a a muck of of rot yes the people may have
• 19:30 - 20:00 their heart in the right place buta we just saw 45,000 people what's the latest number being killed 41,000 I think 41,000 people okay let's say give or take 10% we didn't count 45,000 people right and not a single bullet has been fired from a Muslim country that happened by planning decades making sure the monics are at the top making sure bought and sold this one's bought and sold this person there this economy is completely at a
• 20:00 - 20:30 standstill without us they can't move without us that's Decades of planning and plotting For a Moment Like This where you going to go and kill 45,000 people in a country that does not have an army that has nothing you're going to do that and your neighboring Muslim countries will a not take them in and B they are not going to fire back a single bullet not one little 45 Cent bullet it's very sad I think especially when you see the activism in the Western World from the Muslims I I'm
• 20:30 - 21:00 very cautious to downplay the activism in in the Arab world just in case their hearts are in the right place but they could there's a lot of good people in the there are a lot of good people but what we are seeing on the ground in actuality is the fact that there are Muslims living in the west doing phenomenal work we just had you know Sydney University Muslim Students spend 50 days camping on their uh University campus Sydney University the most prestigious University in Australia camping for 50 days until their University cut ties with Israeli weapons
• 21:00 - 21:30 manufacturers or links towards Israeli weapons manufacturers which brings us to the topic of protests I mean the results for that just on that was uh phenomenal that they had I think that was remarkable they' even got a Muslim representative on the council to oversee a lot of the reports of the relationships between the Israeli universities and usage complicity really interesting but Dr sh to touch on the broad the topic of today on what's going on in razza at the moment I think you just to shoot I think you're the person
• 21:30 - 22:00 who really deals with a lot of heavy and very rapid fire questions so if I'm going to shoot one very rapid fire question to you the F on protesting permissible impermissible I mean we see the impacts of relationships now as people say Muslims non-muslims all these groups are going together what are your thoughts on that no I don't think anyone could say they're well I know I know some of the say it's not permissible but uh uh I don't think they're right about that uh especially in the Western Country um where they expect you to protest they
• 22:00 - 22:30 expect you to get your voice out they'll give you permits to get your voice out right work on Democracy voice they expect that that's how democracy works right so um set aside those the monarchies and the and the rules in in monarchies may be a little bit different but in the Western countries they're expecting you to do that like you got to get your voice out you got to get you make your issue be seen right so I heard it's got to be heard and seen it's got to be heard and seen somehow and the best way to do it is a whole you get a whole bunch of people uh in a way that
• 22:30 - 23:00 the media has to cover and if not the media the regular people see it what about the gray areas like mixing um aligning with different groups okay so there are things within it yeah that could be unlawful like any job anything you do like the general overall thing is praiseworthy and lawful right but within it there could be some things that are wrong MH and that's those things are just to be judged individually um yeah so you have to judge those things individually but for the most part there is benefit there is
• 23:00 - 23:30 it's like working at uh Supermarket mhm in general it's permitted but you may not have be able to work in like let's say the pork section you have to ask the manager to put you in the produce section right so there's a something is generally permitted but within it there could be things that and you just avoid those things okay on the next topic of interfaith dialogue and the effectiveness and the efficacy of interface dialogue does it actually work given that we are now seeing a lot of our former so-called friends amongst the
• 23:30 - 24:00 different faiths come out in support of Zionism come out in support of the state of Israel does Interfaith dialogue work or have we leared that it doesn't well what was the goal in the first place as a Muslim your goal should always be towards da to like you know representing the The Message of Islam amongst other faiths with uh in authenticity the thing is that that's a definition if a lot of lot of times Interfaith dialogue watered down da mhm
• 24:00 - 24:30 so like the Imam and the priest they became buddies but I'm actually trying to undermine your whole religion right I'm trying to say your whole thing is false in the first place how can I say that when we become friends like sometimes friendship is a wonderful thing having great relationships is great but sometimes it defeats other purposes that are greater so you can't be friends I mean you could be friends but I'm at the same time you's got to know I'm actually trying to show that your whole premise is false mhm right how am I going to do that you
• 24:30 - 25:00 can still be friends but be uh do not compromise in your messaging is there any benefit then in have because it seems like you're it would seem that you would be on the sense of like you said it's watered down hour I mean of course there's a there's could one argue that there's a mutual understanding and there's a relationship I know you mentioned yesterday in a talk that you had a friend of yours or Professor who refuted Islam for almost 10 years and then he converted and he said what happened like what what made it what made change yeah that was uh that was a
• 25:00 - 25:30 regular guy who had uh he had issues with his his grandma passing away and that was his whole Crux of his his his atheism but let's say I've become friends with a priest right I got I'm G to think twice by human nature talking about the Trinity I don't want to upset my friend right I'm GNA think twice about it that's human nature I wonder like at what point in the Interfaith theil the movement to create Interfaith dialogue which was what in
• 25:30 - 26:00 the 60s they came up with this term at the Vatican council at what point of it was the actual thought of it to soften Muslims because you have to become very soft on things if you become close with people uh when it comes to conferences that's one thing just everyone explains their religion all right I guess I could see that but what I what I would much rather is just general interaction with people doesn't have to be with the priests and rabbis well and why stop
• 26:00 - 26:30 with priests and rabbis what about swamis why would we put a line there why is it always Muslims priest Imam priests and Rabbi Muslims Jews and Christians yeah why not the Hindus well Abraham no can Define with the abrahamic well why though but those two abrahamic faiths are a stray we say with why why would we make inner faith I really like you a lot I think you're really you're really good with all very raw I think you're very authentic probably the most authentic uh voice we've had not no respect to any
• 26:30 - 27:00 that we have but I really enjoy I don't think we should restrict it to just especially living in the west when we are you know subjected to a Multicultural Society with so many different faiths we should br okay Hindus SS satanists yeah okay so we're now who are we sitting at the table with right right like where does this end yes why would I draw this this line at the Jews and Christians when this is also a falsehood in our religion so if I'm going to have a friendly conference we're all buddies and friends I can't
• 27:00 - 27:30 have it with someone who is a a representative of of something I'm holding to be false then I'm going to be duplicitous because I'm going to be buddy with you now we're friends now as a priest as a rabbi as a Hindu Swami whatever they're called and now I'm going to go on the mimbar or I'm go into my class and say this is all B it's all kufur oh sh why were you all friends with this but why can't that be Interfaith dialogue why can't that be the way Interfaith dialect dialogue operates we come out and we say look we
• 27:30 - 28:00 don't believe in what you oh Interfaith UFC match yes I'm down with that I wouldn't call it a UFC match but just we're open then it would probably delve into a debate Point yeah it has show me what is the th what is the good result that happened from all the years of Muslims who had dialogues with rabbis and Priests and became best friends with them they're there at every turn the rabbi and the priest are there in the mid all right you you you Tred to do something what's the thra what's the
• 28:00 - 28:30 fruit what's the ROI what's the result mhm in in Sydney specifically we saw like Rabbi rabbis turn against the Muslim Community that were were long you know not necessarily holding hands but like allies so there was no actual thumb there was no fruit that came out of it but could there be a potential for for fruit to come out where you get Jews to side with the Muslims side with musl situations like situation we're currently seeing today politically yeah so it's political then
• 28:30 - 29:00 it's not about theology it's about getting fruits we could have like we can have one fruit in the sense that we're having a a debate and teaching people about our religion authentically uncompromisingly then then at the same time there is the th of having alliances I'm playing Devils no you're right you're right there could be you you could constantly be engaging with people to the point that when the Muslims are trouble like with zoning or
• 29:00 - 29:30 with permits or with some person who egged the meet or something then the rabbi is going to come out to help you when the priests come out to help you yeah yeah so that's possible I'm not an advocate for anything just like that's that's possible but at what cost MH right at what cost at I think that's still possible that that you're you're not totally off on that did the prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam not have alliances with Christians and Jews uh I'm asking a question alliances with Christians with the with the Jews of course in Medina wasn't an alliance
• 29:30 - 30:00 he was above them he was their ruler right and when they broke it they were expelled I know they like to make themselves to be victims but you're not a victim you broke a a truth right and when you actually brought the Benny came and and were trying to bring the quray in from the back you got yourself executed you didn't get yourself executed for no reason right so um any treason has always been yes execution that's been the punishment uh so and in that case it was
• 30:00 - 30:30 actually merciful cuz he only executed the males not the the the women and children and any other country any other civilization would have executed the whole lot of them so but point being is that um yeah I think those alliances it's wise to have alliances but I'm very cautious about at what expense what expense is it going to be at the expense that I'm I can't really speak much against something or for something or represent the Quran as it is that's the
• 30:30 - 31:00 only thing I'm worried about because I I'm a big believer in human nature I can't be friends with someone then turn around and try to undermine his whole platform it's like you're going to be duplicitous person in your head so I either I'm friends with you and I'm all with you I'm I'm a loyalist to you or I'm not going to get too close to you I can't because I'm actually against your whole identity I can't get too close to you it will be hypocrisy for me to become friends with you and come up with a
• 31:00 - 31:30 friendly face and then in reality though everything that you believe and love I would actually like to see it non-existent on the earth which is what prophet Isa comes at the end of the time end of times and he basically ends Judaism and Christianity you were singing that yesterday and you talked that I think uh when he comes all the Jews were actually come to accept afterwards after every single one of them according to the M every single one of them because he
• 31:30 - 32:00 shows them I'm here your Messiah Jews I'm your Messiah that you're waiting for thead which you thought was him he we killed him say NAA kills the they thought they think he's the Messiah first then over the years afterwards like let's say he kills The The J in this first year then he lives 39 more years Prophet Isa in those 39 years he brings all these Jews to show that I'm your real Messiah let me tell you about the T me tell you about the past prophets knowledge that you all know and I'll
• 32:00 - 32:30 confirm to you that I know it directly from Allah and then with the Christians here I I am the Jesus that you love I'm right here and I'm telling you I'm not the Son of God I wasn't crucified and Muhammad is a real Prophet summary end of story so where are people who do not want who who who have strong beliefs about these theologies in Judaism Christian now I'll tell you who does interner faith well is people who don't focus a lot on theology right if you focus on it and you care
• 32:30 - 33:00 about it it's going to be very hard for you to to to interact with someone who's standing for the exact opposite ideas and then you know make friends and everything like that I mean I could anyone could be friendly with anybody but to what degree and to what end is the question and that's where inner faith gets hairy and it gets fuzzy try and water it down a little bit if I can step back just for a second um you know you said in one of your other live streams that nobody's off the hook so
• 33:00 - 33:30 how do we I guess um you know deal with for example local politicians who seem to be siding you know or with us normally in Australia right now it's normally with the labor party um so how do you doal with politicians coming into our misid for example who who who their part is pretty much enabling the aparte so are they should they be welcomed into the mid to give that you know that nice welcome that they do every so year that nobody really knows who they are but how's that platform I'm not the best
• 33:30 - 34:00 person to talk about politics cuz I found a whole bunch the whole thing is um it's all bunch of BS to begin with that's really my opinion it's always been my opinion I don't think you can hear the most this is probably the most roest podcast we've ever had yeah I I I was never a fan of interfaith or politics it's like are who are we fooling here we're just putting on fake faces and we know that we're dealing with people who are going to stab Us in the back and we stab them in the back too like if we we don't like them either I don't just don't understand that world we don't like these people yet we bring
• 34:00 - 34:30 them in right into armaid they don't like us yet they come to armaid all this hypocrisy I wonder how people sleep at night to be honest with you yeah I like to have a nice deep sleep at night where my what's in here and what's outside what's inside and it's outside is one and the same right so here with the politicians some people have a lot of they they they are trying to get what you talked about like sometimes we need help we need permits we need zoning I get all that I'm fine with all that right that's stuff I'm fine with but to
• 34:30 - 35:00 actually imagine that they're going to help your cause the the real cause that they're going to take a stance against uh Israel against Zionism like we've seen the result there's been our pasc Congressman pass is he a I don't is he a congressman or a senator pasc I don't even know he's a congressman right uh 20 years with the Palestinians of Patterson New Jersey Patterson New Jersey is like Kemba mhm it's it's all Palestinians they even
• 35:00 - 35:30 have a street called Palestine way he didn't even pick up the phone to call the local Imam when that imam's 30 of his relatives were killed in the the big Imam who who controls the mid there he didn't even pick up the phone yeah no it's a sad State it's a sad State we've even had like the labor party which you know Al Beni our prime minister a long supporter of pal he would attend the protest he would go into Parliament and he would say Israel
• 35:30 - 36:00 needs to leave occupied territories and now he's become like the biggest mouse on the world stage in front of Israel as it conducts a genocide and just yesterday we had a Muslim Senator and I want to get your thoughts on this a Muslim Senator fattima payman she's the first hijabi to enter the Senate and she's one of the youngest parliamentarians at the current moment um Afghan sister went against her own party to vote to recognize Palestine with the greens with the leftwing party
• 36:00 - 36:30 she went against her own party sided with the greens to to vote for the recognition of Palestine she risked expulsion and suspension from the labor party the labor party was too scared to expel her I guess there would have been a significant backlash against them but they did suspend her for a week is there on saying all of this is there a potential to work within the system to to to gain some sort of change like to to manipulate some sort of
• 36:30 - 37:00 change I can sense where where you're going to go no no she she did the right thing she could sleep at night right and say at least I was there I spoke the truth I'm going to be there I'm you're going to speak the truth you got to speak the truth at whatever the expenses at least I did it and there are I have some other friends who are going for Senator you know that I got a very good friend he's going to be he want to be senator for our state he's gonna I think he'll be he'll something huh what advice do you give him well he already took advice from some of the big
• 37:00 - 37:30 sh right and they said go do it but speak the truth MH just speak the truth so it is possible you you would agree that it is possible to do something I'm really trying to get I think he he has a good Vision he's his vision is I want to sit down with some some of these senators and have lunch and explain what's actually happening and appeal to their Human Side maybe next time they go around voting for how much money is going to go to Israel they'll vote a little less right and it'll be a step in if there's harm you're obligated to
• 37:30 - 38:00 reduce the harm right it's an obligation to it's not uh you don't have a choice you have to try to reduce the harm like you can't see someone driving straight to a wall if you can possibly uh turn his wheel a little bit so he doesn't go head on you're obligated to do that so that's what these people are trying to do I respect that yeah I'm I'm with it I respect that you're there you went into politics I probably wouldn't have gone into but now that you're there's a different
• 38:00 - 38:30 once the situation happens there's a different you know that rulings in the beginning may be one thing but if you transgress that you pass that now you're in it there's a whole another set of rules now so now you got to support them so I support them when they say the truth like that and she may not get another term but who cares saying the right thing is is important um and I want to have a general question for you if you don't mind asking I think it's important that one things I find fascinating is that when Allah said to um mam to speak to softly you can speak to him softly
• 38:30 - 39:00 because I guess one understanding may be that no Tyrant like to think that they're Tyrant right for example you say I clothe these people I give them food but you still abuse them and you know they're slaves essentially what is the hidden meaning behind that why would Allah tell it's really important to say it's really important to say it's really important to to um still recognize that we're human beings and people are not going to come around by being treated harshly even the worst people right so that's what that had that that a is is all about say to him a gentle word he's
• 39:00 - 39:30 still a human being he needs to be treated gently and a lot of these people as on the outside they're us to us guilty and everything but you don't know on the inside they're actually understanding of the facts may be totally different like their perception of what is a TR what is the truth is totally different and who knows if we if we had their set of facts yeah we may be in the exact uh doing the same thing they're doing so it's all about the different what the perception of facts
• 39:30 - 40:00 of truth and reality that people have is so different we had umov actually approach Trump told him end the war end the war yeah in Gaza um he went onto a podcast later and he said oh he spoke to me about Ukraine which I don't believe was the case he said oh he was speaking to me about ending the war in Ukraine but I don't think that was true you know Trump play games play games said he he said was likely all with Putin or something best friends or something that so that's one approach
• 40:00 - 40:30 you know infiltrating the system trying to change it from the top but I've also heard that you Advocate more importantly for changing it from the bottom a bottom up approach yeah let's look at the actual reality of the Islamic umah it our strength is in the number of regular good Muslims that there out there that's our strength our strength is not in in the governments they don't help they have no interest in ad advocating the dean that's the truth of the matter and
• 40:30 - 41:00 if they had if they did anyone in the government that does have that interest previous regimes previous administrations have made deals that would compromise their ability to do anything MH that's the truth you can be a a general in a Jordanian Army Egyptian Army your hands are tied so not discounting there are people with Great Hearts there but they're their hands are tight our strength is in a way of life for every the everyday person to
• 41:00 - 41:30 live that will result in a greater population a a stabilized a more stabilized family a more stabilized individual MH intoxicants Zena uh RBA and like excessive debt being a slave to debt those things our religion protects us from forces us to get married not that you know we're forced to get married but most people wouldn't get married if they can commit Zena that's the truth right but now have marriages we have ways in which Allah T
• 41:30 - 42:00 blesses marriages and makes people happy and this people are having trouble staying married they're having trouble in marriages they don't appeal to Allah if you appeal to Allah T to help this marriage and make it grow and be happy you're going to get it Allah says [Music] in he put the and in their hearts so you have to havea you have tawa Allah blesses your marriage you have good marriage you have good kids kids are going to be mentally healthy emotionally stable this is what we have mhm and a
• 42:00 - 42:30 lot of the world is suffering you know without this what we have is a way of life for everyday people and our people Subhan Allah Muslims are everywhere in the world I always like to say as an experiment if I was to to to spin the world spin the globe and then stop it Muslims would be there right and drop you there if I dropped you there anywhere in the globe today after spinning the globe I would say with within a quarter of a day four to six hours you're going to be talking to
• 42:30 - 43:00 somebody because you're just going to look on your phone where's the local Masid you know exactly what when they pray you know if let's say you don't know when they pray you know when they pray right on time right you know you know what they're going to pray with it's not going to be in another language and you know the adab of the Masjid and the adab of giving Salam to someone and he's obligated to Salam you back within a few minutes you're going to have friends F not a friends acquaintances at least somebody company let's put it that way this is this is the power that we have we don't have power as you
• 43:00 - 43:30 mentioned earlier media governments we don't have that power and I believe that most change actually is granular in that uh little tiny changes throughout the world end up altering the culture of the world and I think that's where Muslims are headed in the west we're altering little by little whether we know it or not or whether we even see it so slowly altering the culture of Western cultures countries and I know there's a
• 43:30 - 44:00 resistance against that the anti-immigration movement or look at them that they literally say that's how they're coming in they're reproducing they're having babies they're having children and they're eventually going to take over through this granular process that you speak about and the thing is about it is that these guys are not trying to take over they're just living their lives right the the the immigrants in France immigrants in England no no there's no master plan there is no master plan in our um they're just living their lives as Muslims trying to make life a little bit
• 44:00 - 44:30 better it just so happens they're on a superior way of living a way of living that will Outlast yours like my friend here was telling me we seem to lose every battle but we're still winning the war yes you were saying that yesterday right because just the way that we live will result in success we have structure we have purpose we have you know a motivation to wake up every day we know what we're doing and as individuals and there's no master plan think about this the Soviets came and went the French the at one point the
• 44:30 - 45:00 French were the dominant nation in the world and French was the international language where they came and went the British Empire came and went the American Empire came and is waning a little bit right and it's because of Israel the parasite yeah we've never seen a little little Nation hold a line by the taale like this before we've never seen this before in world history so the American Empire is comeing and it's going and yet they're still worried
• 45:00 - 45:30 about Muslims like four Empires four different schools of thought four different philosophies of uh politics and World governance powers that no one could match and still Muslims are keep doing their thing and it's not stopping it's not going anywhere that's why the the rightwing I think is an extreme they're the extreme view I think most people though they look around and they say they these guys they are holding it down in many ways that we couldn't a lot of Christians have to look you know Candace ens became a Catholic yes she
• 45:30 - 46:00 left Protestant she's someone who I think really seeks the truth yeah I see sincerity in her and I think someone like her she got she does have this anti-islamic you know in her theology she's raised as like probably a Baptist or something but she's got to look and see like everything that you guys are standing for she left da y isn't it so she left yes yeah everything that you guys are standing standing for as Christians and conservatives you're not that good at we're much better at it and we're not even putting half an effort
• 46:00 - 46:30 like we don't go campaign for conservatism and stuff like that we just live normally by the rules that Allah gave us we have a sense of obedience and and and servitude to Allah subhana T in also our obedience to the prophet sallallahu alai it's going without saying they also have uh like they have the ideas right but I don't think that they they don't get the nourished Iman to make them satisfied so often times even some of their priests and pastor sort of get tired of it and they commit zenner like that happens a lot right or
• 46:30 - 47:00 regular it's it's unsustainable the monasticism component yeah yeah Dr sh you've mentioned a lot about these Empires uh that are currently you know still one could AR alive and well but uh what's going on with right now in the world with the Gaza would you say that much of what's going on that even though the Muslims are still remaining could you could you say that the signs of the hour are slowly approaching well a lot of the minor signs are
• 47:00 - 47:30 visible if you look at theith on the minor signs of they're all almost all of them are are there we just never we just really never know to be honest with you and the next the first major sign is IM Mahi IM Mahi is an obligatory belief on Muslims to have you think he's born Allah knows best to I'm honest with you now check this out I asked uh she Ahmed I said when someone claims the day that
• 47:30 - 48:00 comes that someone claims to be the Mahi what is the protocol of a Muslim by the Shar do I have to investigate do I have to uh believe in him what do I do he he replied a very unique response I didn't expect this he said that Imam M comes with the Sharia that we all know nothing new mhm just by virtue of him acting upon it would become obligatory for us to
• 48:00 - 48:30 support him so we don't have to go and invest it's not NAA it's not ask if he speaks Arabic and he says exactly we don't have you guys saw that sh CLA oh like this guy with one in Pakistan long hair he got sunglasses and a woolly cap like this and he claims to be the mat a sh guy some crazy stuff is going you wonder if these things are real or S up right the CH guy that's why he's M yeah
• 48:30 - 49:00 I saw that guy too but this guy but the but the sh said you he's it's not NAA you don't have to investigate and then make a claim yes I follow or no I don't follow that's for prophethood for IM he's goingon to come with the sh just by virtue of knowing the Shar and seeing what he's doing it becomes binding for you to support him and you you'll support him so he actually downplayed it a lot it's not like prophit Hood I have to affirm or deny we also do have another Hadith the
• 49:00 - 49:30 prophet Sall alhi wasallam said whoever dies without giving him the allegiance will die the death of a hypocrite and that's because not because it's a Doctrine thing where I have to either believe in him or not but because he so clearly represents the Law the Shar Islam he so clearly supports it are there any signs that we should be aware of there are signs that his name is the name of the Prophet peace be upon him he's from Medina so Muhammad abdah or Ahmed Abdullah mhm he's from Medina he's
• 49:30 - 50:00 given Allegiance in Mecca and he begins uh so clearly there has to be some kind of turmoil in Arabia or they have shut down after this we shut down have to they're gonna either that or they're going to go so astray that the um will see a need for a new regime because we're not a people who really believe in regime changes and and revolutions like in our it's very hard to justify a complete Revolution
• 50:00 - 50:30 but he's clearly coming with that so they have to either be that bad or there has to be a void and he comes and he spends most of the time fighting mafics more than kufar we almost filled with Hypocrites when I get people who come into Islam if the time is right and their mindset is right I have to warn them like you're entering an um that's very sick right now you probably love Islam more than 90% of the born Allah protect us Allah protect us Dr Shi we're speaking about um Empires and we're
• 50:30 - 51:00 speaking about you know the masses of the Muslims trying to hold on to their Dean do you think the is a an obligation and B the solution to the problems that we're facing today I'm not saying any of my opinions I'm just asking no doubt 100% it's an obligation and it's a solution but it has prerequisites too is it like is it like foreseeable that the will come with 100% that's what he comes with there's no
• 51:00 - 51:30 ruler next to him he's the um it is definitely a solution the thing is as it has a spiritual prerequisite that you have to talk about we can sit around and come with a master plan it's irrelevant if the bulk of our umah is not interested in Allah anymore and that's what I that's the again that and that's what he said in a conference on on the and solutions for the um and found
• 51:30 - 52:00 nobody's talking about the need the prerequisite of returning this um back to love of Allah love of Allah has signs the sign of Love of Allah is you obey him number one and you love to remember him remember him by studying remember him by talking remember him by remember him by recited Quran remember him by making Dua like you love it the same way people love music 24,000 uh salaat was it of
• 52:00 - 52:30 M the love of Allah is the revolution from that by necessity we will love the too because that's what Allah loves Allah loves for our to be ruled to be United and the you want to know the quick the simple thing take all the lines of the countries and make them dotted lines so Algeria is no longer the nation of Algeria you're the state of Algeria just like United States we got 50 states MH but we share in one Army one Ambassador one currency one
• 52:30 - 53:00 highway system then you can have your state laws Algeria Morocco by the way well Morocco the government of Morocco what conniving snakes they are against Algeria you know if the facts that I have right you're you're you're you're half in Morocco right you know that the Israeli Ambassador went out there and and and threatened Algeria from Moroccan soil didn't yeah I mean according to the facts that I have the information that I have uh I mean that's that's low that's
• 53:00 - 53:30 reason is that the Moroccan Jews are all in the government there and they've basically pitted Morocco against Algeria all when we walk in the Masjid now we got Moroccans in algerians that's all they talk about it's all they talk about the friction between the algerians are so offended so hurt so angry at what the Moroccan government did to their to them and Algeria they got it down like they're not they recognize Israel but anyway back to this you're the state
• 53:30 - 54:00 of Morocco the state of Algeria not the nation dotted lines keep your president one president from all the Muslim nations that are part of this serves as the head for for four or five years then they rotate almost like an order of the biggest Nation to the smallest so that no one has to be elected no one's got to fight for it you know when your turn is coming for your nation and then you have like a type of Senate and and Congress M where by population you send
• 54:00 - 54:30 representatives for every million people I don't know like one repres two two Reps for every million people so we have the blueprint for the right here on one writing it out forget this is it's uh it's very simple right then you have one military one Ambassador m one flag one Army one currency and you create a highway system or travel system in between one passport see that's all easy and the KH will be M IMI yeah well at this point if we're going to talk about
• 54:30 - 55:00 just today he's not khif he'll be at least in the position of Imam any or re ruler but all this is easy to to to put down on paper but the the hard part is a spiritual Revolution that has to take place before this fing the hearts back to Allah yeah if the hearts aren't connected back to Allah this all piece of paper you just rip it up and throw it in the garbage waste of time Dr sh I want to ask you yeah who are the role motives really for us right now who do we look up to uh for guidance I mean what of much of what we see in these
• 55:00 - 55:30 times are really unprecedented so who do we turn towards for guidance I'll tell you who I took turn towards and I Look to any Muslim who steers free of major blunders in F in religion and family family that's what matters yeah I'm not looking for Heroes MH that to me is the hero that Muslim who lives his life and Allah blesses him protects him from major calamities in his Dean such
• 55:30 - 56:00 as going astray taking on some crazy belief falling into Zena things like that and his family life is good he raises kids his wife loves him he loves his wife his kids love him and they pray and fast and are good that to me is a hero and I ask what did you do who prayed for you for Allah to give you that to cuz I know that you didn't do it yourself Allah gave you that so what did you do though maybe you gave s to the right
• 56:00 - 56:30 person just humility stay low lay low spiritually you lay low now in business you have to go up you got to advertise and show yourself there are different rules for different things right so people shouldn't confuse these two things you know certain certain things in life you have to advertise promote self-promote all that stuff but in in in real life when it really comes down to it you need to be humble and you need to be to realize that I want to get through
• 56:30 - 57:00 this as safe as possible that's what matters and that's when you get put into your grave nothing's going to matter except your heart which is your dean and the few people around you that are around your deathbed your wife your kids your maybe immediate local M that's really what matters so it's a big shift from what we've been talking about right um that's really what matters at an individual level and that's what I aim to and those are the types of people going into the home we went to the you
• 57:00 - 57:30 know the governmental stage to the community stage now we're inside the home yeah this is the that and this is really the the teaching that billions of people in our umah are latching on to and that's why we have That's The Power of Islam yeah the individual life has Guidance the individual life has meaning purpose structure and that humility to keep in mind zoom out this is is like literally a Split Second mhm test that lasts you in eternity hold on to the rope that
• 57:30 - 58:00 whole time for one last question in that's uh I think that's very beautiful how we've transitioned from the top to to this on the family home but perhaps are there any prescriptions that you could give us that one could do in the every like a daily rou in the daily routine in the average day life what other the things that we can hold on to are there any prescriptions are there any special or or anything like that that we should be doing the best thing a person can do is to ask themselves on this day what do I
• 58:00 - 58:30 love most what am I prioritizing so things that are done on the outside are important but what happens on the inside is is far more important and that's what they call which is let me ask myself what am I idolizing today what am I loving today and if you can control that then by Nature what comes out out of your body out of your uh limbs is going to follow right so that's actually more important because sometimes I could be doing the right things but my heart is going
• 58:30 - 59:00 another Direction those things start to feel heavy and I really don't want to do them anymore like why because my heart's been turning in the wrong direction so it's more important than to look at your heart on the inside and see which way am I going am I going the route of humility fear of Allah or am I going the route of seeking power seeking fame seeking uh indulgences Etc uh that to me is an hour spent asking your heart where it is is
• 59:00 - 59:30 far more important than 100 Years of of external Deeds so that introspection yeah that introspection is so important you have to ask ourselves where am I is my heart going uh what am what is my heart feeling right now am I feeling like Envy Am I Feeling um like I need more dun MH or am I feeling satisfied with what Allah gave me humble what Allah asked me to do what I'm going to do what comes into my life I'm going to accept you
• 59:30 - 60:00 know I'm not going to rebel against Allah's decisions uh am I loving remembrance and loving the Quran or am I someone who's loving music and distraction and all those things like where's my heart yeah I did say that was the last question but I got to be a bit sneaky and ask one more love of Allah you referenced love of Allah from the beginning to the end of this podcast your PhD was on on the life and works of Imam Hadad M who emphasized the importance of loving Allah MH how can we Foster this love of
• 60:00 - 60:30 Allah in like a very you know a final message how do we Foster this love of Allah and you know give this out as a prescription to all of our viewers within our hearts the fastest and the best way is to ask Allah to grow it inside your heart because this is the Divine it's not a normal love normal love you could say it's beautiful I love it something is beautiful so I love it something is functional you love something functional uh smart ideas you
• 60:30 - 61:00 love it because of that but the Divine you have to always look at that's the one who created you that's one who made you you have to think about those aspects he made you he created you everything that we have is from Allah and it could have been 10 times worse so sometimes people say yeah everything I have from Allah but someone so has better yeah but someone so has worse right it could have been so much worse certain things you know we didn't have now we have them like you look at you guys you got this amazing studio right that's from Allah it's a gift it's also a
• 61:00 - 61:30 test we have to look at what did Allah give me and sometimes I need to gas it up a little bit more and say oh Allah I love you so much for what you've given me give me more I'll love you more but the fastest route is you ask Allah to grow it in your heart and how he does this is by putting into your mind all the gifts that he's given you that he has not given other people that's how Allah grows it in your heart that's through asbab through means through thoughts through ideas look my
• 61:30 - 62:00 servant you didn't have this I gave it to you you were weak when it came to this you had no friends now we have a lot of friends you had no money now you have a lot of money you were physically sick and unwell now you got great habits you sleep well you eat well you drink well where did this come from so many people are not married you have an amazing wife or amazing husband so many people are trying to have kids you have amazing kids so many people are renting a home you own a home things like that Allah puts
• 62:00 - 62:30 these thoughts in your head that make you realize that you want to just be grateful for the rest of life just want to I want to be a a loyalist who's thankful grateful and real to Allah and you have to ask Allah to put that love in your heart then you start to love remembrance of Allah becomes beloved to you it's aib you're just saying certain words but those words have something powerful in them just like vitamins on the outside they just look like pills
• 62:30 - 63:00 could be a sugar pill could be uh nothing but on the outside it all looks the same but you keep taking one every day you start to change you start to become more healthy so Allah then makes a person love the remembrance and love and become in almost addicted non-stop he wants to do nonstop he wants to remember Allah oh Allah we ask for your love then the next thing is that Allah directs you to the aah the righteous the pious the
• 63:00 - 63:30 scholars Allah uh uh makes you love those people and makes you cross paths with them like so many people when they started their path they accidentally Came Upon a book or a video or a person you didn't stumble that was Allah push you there and probably the tribulations that you had a couple months before that was preparation your ego you would have stumbled by him either way like January 1st you're going to cross PA with this or this person or this Pious student in college January 1st but with the ego of
• 63:30 - 64:00 September he would have walked right by him you would have thought ill of him so that ego needs to be broken down so you got crisis in September another crisis in October another one in November all right you're good now right now your ego's down you've you knocked down the ego so now when you come in and meet this and cross path with this person in your life you're like soil that's ready to be planted and that's how we view trials and tribulations and ultimately every step of the way it's from Allah the person no it wasn't the person it
• 64:00 - 64:30 was Allah it was Allah it was Allah I know you answered the question but you kind of put like a thought in my head it's easy to love Allah when you have things but what about like the people in Gaza that have nothing what about the people that are brokenhearted the people that literally you you tell them think about all the things you have they go oh well I don't have that much every Nama also has a bad underbelly has a rough underbelly Every Blessing has some rough nness to it and from that roughness may be the responsibility from that roughness may be you're going to be
• 64:30 - 65:00 asked about it on the day of judgment so Allah subhah wa taala either gives you or he gives you himself what's the proof of that the prophet sallallahu Al was said on the day of on the day of judgment Allah says to somebody my slave I was sick you didn't visit me the person says how are you sick he says my slave was sick if you had come to visit him you would have found me there the therefore say Allah either gives you blessings or he gives
• 65:00 - 65:30 you himself meaning his presence is with you so that's what they have they have a presence of Allah with them that that we don't have the sick have that the poor have that the needy have that and sometimes when you're downtrodden then you're not downtrod in you you notice the difference like you notice there were good times life was simple things were good there were actually good things about those bad
• 65:30 - 66:00 times yeah I I couldn't end it on a so I'm just trying to take all of that in Dr sh has been an absolute honor to have you on the podcast pleas not the last we do hope that you come and visit us again or we come to New Jersey or you guys say new I don't really know how it go I don't know if anyone in Jersey ever says that but it's famous around the world for people to say that yeah should been an Absolut pleasure thank you so much for joining us that's my pleasure in for everyone at home we shall see you on the next episode alayum