CRTV - PRESS HOUR - (What CAN a DISABLED OPPOSITION DO ?) - Sunday 20th December 2020

Summary

The video discusses the challenges faced by Cameroon's political opposition, particularly the Social Democratic Front (SDF). It highlights the historical context of the opposition since the 1990s, the factors leading to its current state, and the role of the ruling party, CPDM, in shaping the political landscape. Panelists debate the definition and effectiveness of opposition, examining both internal weaknesses and external pressures. Solutions for revitalizing the opposition are considered, with suggestions for strategic reforms and potential alliances. The discussion also touches on the broader participation of citizens in politics and the impact of electoral processes.

Highlights

• The video examines the weakened state of Cameroon's opposition, especially the SDF. 🤔
• Panelists discuss the historical decline of opposition since the 1990s. 📜
• The ruling CPDM party's control and tactics are a significant factor in opposition challenges. 🏛️
• Internal conflicts and poor strategies have contributed to opposition struggles. 🔄
• There is disenchantment among voters, with low electoral participation. 🚫

Key Takeaways

• Cameroon's opposition faces numerous challenges, both internal and external. 🤔
• The ruling party, CPDM, heavily influences national politics and control. 🎭
• SDF's influence has waned over the years, requiring strategic reform. 📉
• Electoral participation in Cameroon is low due to disenchantment with the system. 📉
• Revitalizing opposition needs strategic thinking and potential alliances. 🔄

Overview

Cameroon's political landscape has been dominated by the ruling CPDM party, leaving the opposition, particularly the SDF, in a state of decline. This episode delves into the history of Cameroon's opposition, from the vibrant push for multi-party politics in the 1990s to the current challenges they face.

The discussion highlights that Cameroon's opposition is struggling due to both internal disorganization and external suppression by the ruling party. The panelists debate the effectiveness of current opposition strategies, the impact of electoral processes, and the role of civil servants in politics.

Suggestions for revitalizing the opposition include fostering strategic alliances, revisiting political strategies, and encouraging broader citizen participation. While challenges remain, these changes could foster a more dynamic political environment in Cameroon.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 01:00: Introduction The chapter opens with a musical introduction, setting the tone for what follows in the book. Although no specifics are provided in the transcript, this section likely serves as an introductory overview of the themes, structure, and objectives of the book. The music might be intended to engage the audience, create a certain atmosphere, or set a thematic context for the reader.
• 03:00 - 04:00: Panelists Introduction The chapter introduces the panelists who are part of the discussion. It sets the stage for the topics that will be covered throughout the session. The introduction likely includes names, backgrounds, and areas of expertise of the panelists, providing the audience with context about who is speaking and their relevance to the topics being discussed. The mention of music suggests there may be a brief musical interlude or jingle at the start.
• 04:00 - 28:00: Main Discussion: Challenges in Cameroon's Opposition In the chapter titled 'Main Discussion: Challenges in Cameroon's Opposition', the discussion may revolve around the various struggles and difficulties faced by opposition groups in Cameroon. This could include political, social, and economic challenges, issues related to governmental policies, possible suppression or lack of freedom of speech, organizational hurdles, and perhaps, the international community's perspective on Cameroon's political dynamics. However, the actual transcript 'good day to you' provided does not contain detailed content to generate a comprehensive summary of the challenges discussed in this context.
• 32:00 - 35:00: Strategies for Rejuvenation of Opposition The chapter discusses the challenges and strategies for rejuvenating opposition parties in a political landscape. It explores various factors that contribute to the decline of opposition, such as internal divisions, lack of clear vision, and external pressures from dominant parties. The importance of unity, effective leadership, and innovative policies are emphasized as key components for revitalizing opposition movements. Additionally, the chapter highlights successful case studies where opposition parties have managed to reposition themselves and gain public trust. The role of grassroots movements and the need for adaptability in changing political climates are also examined as crucial elements for sustaining opposition efforts.
• 35:00 - 39:48: Expert Opinion by Dr. Langenga Derek In the chapter titled 'Expert Opinion by Dr. Langenga Derek', the discussion begins with an apology for a late start caused by a power outage. It highlights the introduction of the program's current edition, establishing a context for what is to follow.
• 40:00 - 44:00: Counterarguments by SDF Representative The chapter discusses the state of opposition politics in Cameroon, focusing on the Social Democratic Front (SDF), once a powerhouse in opposition but now perceived as weakened. It reflects on the decline from the 1990s era of multi-party politics to the present day, with some viewing the SDF as 'almost on the dying bed.' The chapter explores what options the opposition, particularly the SDF, has in the current political landscape of Cameroon.
• 59:00 - 61:30: Closing Remarks and Music Outro The chapter 'Closing Remarks and Music Outro' includes a discussion focused on a particular situation, featuring expert insights from a panel of guests. These panelists include Professor Willie Brought Zengua, a political scientist and historian, as well as Miss Dan Kemley More, the National Communication Secretary of the Social Democratic Front party. Additionally, Stephen Ojong was introduced as the publisher among the guests. The program features engaging dialogue and perspectives from each panelist. The chapter ends with closing remarks and a music outro.

CRTV - PRESS HOUR - (What CAN a DISABLED OPPOSITION DO ?) - Sunday 20th December 2020 Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 [Music]
• 00:30 - 01:00 [Music]
• 01:00 - 01:30 good day to you
• 01:30 - 02:00 all and welcome to today's edition of
• 02:00 - 02:30 press ah we sorry for the late start due to power outage ladies and gentlemen your program is on and on today's edition of the program we're going to uh
• 02:30 - 03:00 talk politics what can the disabled opposition do we consider that the capability opposition is disabled when you look at the power of the the strength of the opposition in cameroon from 1990s when we had the multi-party politics to today the opposition somehow especially the sdf that has been the powerhouse of opposition is weakened we came to the point some people say it's almost on the dying bed we're going to look at that and other opposition parties what can they do in the cameroonian
• 03:00 - 03:30 situation that would be our focus today and we have the following panelists uh professor willie brought zengua he is a political scientist historian welcome to the program it's my pleasure to be here kylian yes sir we have miss dan kemley more than he's he is the national communication secretary of the sdf social democratic front party welcome to the program sir thank you kyrian the pleasure yes sir next to you is uh stephen ojong stephen new john is the publisher
• 03:30 - 04:00 of the media newspaper welcome to the program sir the pleasure to be here yes uh to my left extreme left we have eugene fongwa media and development policy analyst welcome to the program thank you it's a pleasure to be here yeah we're going to discuss the topic i remind you what can the disabled opposition do given that it's supposed to be carrying out checks and balances calling on government as we know to be
• 04:00 - 04:30 accountable to the public but before we go into the discussion proper we're going to start off with our press review what the newspapers said during the week with emmanuela webney manuela politics dominated the media landscape the weak ending after losing much ground sdf begins to pick up pieces headlines the horizon to the post takeover of sdf leadership
• 04:30 - 05:00 through the challenge's youths while insisting all elected party officials must fund the party in the eye of the guardian post frundi verbally assaults anglophone journalists during sdf neck meeting in yonde he had reportedly hushed one of the journalists then referred to the other as being ugly news watch explains that in cameroon journalists can't breathe as of notions laws typho press freedom
• 05:00 - 05:30 as come to ninja secret meeting sends warning signals on the guardian post scheming for regional election esco hots up on the sun especially as undp's position in political dispensation is maintained on the star cameroon tribune then presents the feces behind the regional election esco the anglophone crisis takes center stage at the un security council meeting on newswatch the crisis is said to have dominated debates at u.n security meeting according to the guardian post
• 05:30 - 06:00 then germany russia weigh in on the crisis on the horizon newspaper even as the paper questions toward end given the atrocities that continue in the regions suspected amber fighters invade policies kidnapped chiefs headlines the guardian post to the post three boya chiefs abducted one confirmed dead for killing traditional rulers anglophones cursed separatis on municipal updates
• 06:00 - 06:30 all these has given rise to xenophobia against northwesterners as rights groups strike boya chief over social xenophobia on the guardian post pm dion gutei we cannot do anything without unity on the chronicle times then chief munja munja retracts preaches love on municipal update to the voice weekender hate speech braggart chief manja munja simulates capitulation delivers instructed apology
• 06:30 - 07:00 musical rights corporation sonakam gets new anglophone boss on the guardian post at a bazaar is new sonic and board chair on the post atte bazaar then becomes first anglophone sona camboche on the horizon let's now end our press review with this report on the guardian post where cameroon has been ranked second worst jailer of journalists in sub-saharan africa the committee to protect journalists has for the third consecutive time ranked the country
• 07:00 - 07:30 as such 274 journalists are currently being jailed ticks what can a disabled opposition do we actually think that the opposition in cameroon when you follow the development from the early 1990s with the advent of multi-party politics to today the opposition when it comes our candoci is vibrant and we're going to establish gentlemen first of all we think that opposition is disabled in cameroon some people even think that it is dying
• 07:30 - 08:00 prof you are a political scientist historian it fits very well for you to better situate us well i think it would be important for us to see what politics is uh summarily it is a coining policies to gain power and govern people and when we talk politics we should concentrate on three things politics itself policy and polity uh that is a given geographic region now if we put all of these into play we are going to say that
• 08:00 - 08:30 doing politics in cameroon most uh opposition uh political parties have not coined effective policies to gain power they have rather coined some policies which are counter-productive and then within the polity the politics have become have made them disabled i i should say especially with the former leading which i still consider today to be the leading opposition party
• 08:30 - 09:00 i mean the sdf they have been disabled because of several factors if you want disabled by by the system uh conscious effort to make sure that political parties uh are ruled back but let me say that the the ruling party might be exercising real politics because they are doing everything to gain power that is exactly what i wanted to ask you whether they are not playing their roles yes this the cpdm is playing
• 09:00 - 09:30 its role as a political party but the other poli political parties might not be playing their role enough and that is why we're going to go into the disabled we'll go into the rule uh after this uh what the rule of political party uh especially opposition but when you were speaking you talked of the policies of the opposition parties in cameroon have been counter-productive what do you mean by that yes uh not all the political parties because we let us talk about a few uh cdu has remained very consistent and
• 09:30 - 10:00 they are dominant in their area within equality their policies have been crafted with an apology that is the known and they are dominating within that area undp has coined its own policy let's be very fair to say that all the political parties have regional orientation i mean they have their strongholds right and if they have their strongholds you mean all opposition the opposition half the strongholds all the opposition political parties and one political party leading political party should say the
• 10:00 - 10:30 sdf has been able to divorce from the stronghold they have lose power they don't have a firm grip over the stronghold any longer because of the policies which have been to the best of my appreciation not been very sensitive to the sentiments of the greatest majority of those people within the politics yes uh we have dennis kemley more the national communication secretary of the sdf that has been the leading political party opposition of the opposition in
• 10:30 - 11:00 the country and as we know today sdf has lost a lot of ground we can't even say it has a fear of animals what's happened to your party and to other opposing parties well when you talk of opposition before answering your question with your permission when we talk of opposition it is limiting to describe opposition only in terms of
• 11:00 - 11:30 political parties the opposition has to do with those every person in the country who is not comfortable with the status quo who is not comfortable with the way the country is managed that you oppose the present system and the status quo and in that sense you will realize that if you have approximately 24 million cameroonians and you have a potential of 15 million
• 11:30 - 12:00 alleges break it down to 12 million go down to 12 million potential king makers in cameroon that is those who are eligible to vote and then you see that out of those 12 million coming from telecom statistics six only 50 percent of those who are eligible to vote actually register in the electoral register the other 50 percent are so dissolutioned with the political system and the electoral system they don't they
• 12:00 - 12:30 don't get in and even among the 12 6 million that enroll you have approximately 3 million who actively come out and vote and within that 3 million the party that is ruling may have around 2 million then if you can see 2 million that vote for the status quo to continue out of 24 million cameroonians out of 12 million potential king makers in cameroon then you will realize that there is no
• 12:30 - 13:00 progress at all because 2 million decide people decide the faith of command that actually is not the point that that's not the point let me make the point why is it what is it not the point i said let me see two million people still come out as he said if the your party had good policies to win them over and vote for your party what i am saying is what i am saying is that the degree of disenchantment among the cameroonian populace is so intensive that they have turned
• 13:00 - 13:30 their back on those who manage politics and so we cannot talk of opposition limiting it to political parties that and that that please let me make this point is extremely important and i i want to say that having said that if you have limited your question to institut institutionalized opposition yes because there's opposition in the general sense of the world this is this is institutionalized opposition this is what this is what the topic is politics yes
• 13:30 - 14:00 what can a disabled opposition good it means we are talking about opposition party no you know it is not a giving i'm not all the other people no politics we are not talking of politicians those who vote are not politicians we are not talking of politicians we are so what what i wanted to make that point clear now coming back to institutionalized politics that is politics is political institutions like political parties that you are talking about um i i said earlier before i went into
• 14:00 - 14:30 this studio that this question was tendentious and now explained is this already accepted from the question that the post operation is disabled let us access it let us accept is it not let us accept that it is disabled let us accept your thesis that it is disabled the next question is disabled by who and i think um professor zinwa started and on a very good way
• 14:30 - 15:00 to explain some of the people who disabled the opposition let me tell you that you cannot imagine that the the the the president of the republic in 1990 his hands were forced to give democracy and then he gave the democracy and take it with the left hand with one hand and take it with the other why why didn't the opposition holy explain opposition is not supposed to explain and support takes it back no let me tell you if you use the state's part power
• 15:00 - 15:30 not to administer the state but to stifle any other alternative voice in the country you cannot call that dream politics you guys are watching state power because because yeah this is because because our administrative officers in the country the civil service in the country the military in the country
• 15:30 - 16:00 the police force and all the state's apparatus are at the service of the party in power and of the state no no i am telling you that this at the service of this party in power when the war you are a politician yes you are a politician if you allow me to give you taste now what i'm saying yes you will continue with what you are saying but we we listen to you and we want you to make us understand clearly yes they you say they all those institutions
• 16:00 - 16:30 they pay allegiance to the ruling when a government comes up that government controls it is done everywhere it is if the sdf came up to power today will you say this for your information in the rules of the sdf the sdf will ban civil servants from doing patch sound politics because if the the we will not want the politicization of the administration on the cv service we've done that what do you mean by that
• 16:30 - 17:00 that that means that a civil servant who joins a political party and wants to have ambitions to be elected to run on a platform a political party and campaign for that party and defend the ideology of that party have to resign from the city service first that's what we mean by that that is written in golden letters in the sdf internal ideology then in order to run away he talked a prophecy he talked about policies of opposition parties that have not appealed that i can have
• 17:00 - 17:30 not stopped with all due respect to prof that i admire a lot for his objectivity and his neutrality uh what i'm saying does not uh counsel that impression i have about him i think that getting to power in cameroon and living and remaining in power has nothing to do with ideology the cpdm has no ideology apart from the fact that they they
• 17:30 - 18:00 enjoy the benefits of power their principal ideology and people who are here there is to get the benefits of power that is no i don't know you could not say ideology because because because the social democratic front whose principle ideology is federalism you will not tell me that cameroonians hate federalism this much you're not telling me that there you are look at that look at look at look at look at where we are yeah as he said there are other panelists it's true that we're listening to you yeah uh this
• 18:00 - 18:30 enter the power to the people yeah federalism is meant power to the people power to the people yes decentralization is power to the people in practice wrong okay let's go listen let us you you listen to you listen to the two panelists already let's not try to give the impression that opposition in cameroon is the easier
• 18:30 - 19:00 there are so many opposition forces in cameroon exactly and if we talk about the ezreal the sdf has long abandoned its platform for change so when they say opposition is dead maybe the safe is dead not opposition in cameroon the opposition command is still very vibrant yeah let me come i can tell you that the government is very panicky whenever i come to council to say something the government is panicking you recall that recently before ahead of the
• 19:00 - 19:30 the last original elections the arsenal the military ascendant the government put out i had to avail myself to some of these security officials ask them come to dozen carry guns his followers do not carry guns all these guns that will finally excuse me why are you putting out all of this they say we are putting out all of these because our problem has not come to our province the people who lined up behind him if we allow him to come out now you continue i'm not going to stop you from talking but this is what i want to
• 19:30 - 20:00 ask you do you know that for guns to come out for people to carry guns they are conceived on the mind they are conceived and the type of verbs the type of words that you use could be an initiation or a call for guns to come out and that actually appears to be openly some of the discussion is disabled yes opposition i'm saying that the opposition is not disabled in cameroon the opposition command is very very vibrant and very active and the
• 20:00 - 20:30 government is very aware of that and the government is very panicky and and very how do i put it the government is always poised to to block whatever the opposition wants to do in cameroon yeah i still used to stephen for us to say that the opposition is vibrant we have to look at representation in national institutions yes go to parliament go to the senate parliament is the national assembly and the senate go to some other when you look at now
• 20:30 - 21:00 regional councils when you look at the presentation where is the opposition representative for you to say this journalist in this country the president of the republic was voted by less than two million cameroonians they could we had elections in ghana that just passed we had 70 million voters the president of this country was voted by less than three million cameroonians because you don't you cannot claim that that that party is very popular because
• 21:00 - 21:30 it has the the claims to have representation the question i'm asking is those people questions if the position is dead then even the government party is dead i want to tell that in this country even the position starts from within the government we saw the prime minister of this country go to the northwest and southwest and say that they want to do this a minister with that same government came to cameroon to yaounde granted a press conference interview to a foreign china and said what the minister is saying the prime minister is saying it's not correct we saw it from our prime minister we
• 21:30 - 22:00 went to bermuda to solve the anglophone problem four ministers heard the press conference in yeondi to say that the problem that the prime minister has gone to to solve the muhammad does not exist is their house is there a house without problem is there one house in the world where you don't have squabbles that doesn't make it like i'm saying i've been saying here that your position is very starting from the government itself there's opposition yes which is just normal that they should do that to reorganize themselves to a divergent of ideas we're going to listen
• 22:00 - 22:30 to you eugene the opposition in cameroon will feel is disabled he has talked of some policies that are not tending he has talked of actually a position that is vibrant but when we come to representation so the ideas are not converging us so what's your take i think it's difficult to tell whether the opposition is dead or not because look there really isn't any uh fair measure that you can use to determine i talked about institutions
• 22:30 - 23:00 representation just let me speak okay i've not even said anything yet there is no there's no fair measure you can use because like he has pointed out the elections are flawed in some cases or a very small number of cameroonians are voting to be able to say that the opposition is dead you need to say that the 10 15 million or so who do not vote would have voted for the ruling party i'm not sure
• 23:00 - 23:30 you can make that reach that conclusion that's number one in politics you're going to continue in politics you said by staying silent you have taken position because the few people who vote the the the person voted is rooted for all of them yes if you and if you consider and and i'm going to hold you by what you have just said if you concede that that abstention is a political statement you could then say that the election during which the current president was re-elected was actually a no vote
• 23:30 - 24:00 in that 8 million to 10 million people or to 12 million people decided not to have the opportunity to elect him they were so disgruntled that they would rather not participate in legitimizing his presidency and only two million came out to vote for him again 71 he's caught seven to one percent this is not my argument of 2 million
• 24:00 - 24:30 what i've done is just expounded on your logic yeah but this is my logic my position is that it's difficult to know one because the elections are not credible you cannot tell me that the people who are in parliament today are there because they're better politicians than those that are not there it's difficult to tell because of
• 24:30 - 25:00 representation not in the institutions but on the political field number two we have this problem that has already been raised the idea that so many people are not interested in in politics in partisan politics at all you cannot make great make a causality relationship to say that that means that the opposition is disabled it's disabled number three
• 25:00 - 25:30 the point that we're trying to deny and i'm surprised we're trying to deny is the idea that the state machinery is being captured by the ruling party and there are people who do sudden things and take certain decisions in spite of themselves yeah that that brings me to a question that i will start by you what's the rule of the opposition if we get the rule of the opposition correct we will know that the state machinery is
• 25:30 - 26:00 not supposed to take no the opposition listen the role of the politician he he makes he has a definition of politics um which which which which i may slightly depart from which is which makes the capture of power central uh to to to the police cargo but you could actually have in a situation where there is a which is just to stir the debate in a certain direction just to ensure that there's a mitigation of all of the political forces in the country
• 26:00 - 26:30 so sometimes a vibrant political party can only be one that keeps certain issues on the policy debate one that forces the country to move in a certain election and they may never get gain power but succeed in moving the country in a certain direction as you said the ultimate and of every political party not only get their benefits no i'm talking about power i understand i understand what he's saying i'm talking about uh power in terms of an office
• 26:30 - 27:00 all right good so they yes they may have that power to be able to drive the country in a certain direction which we have seen happened in this country so you can really not discuss that 80 percent of the democratic reforms in this country have been pushed by the opposition you cannot deny them that you cannot deny them that so let's not make it look like this is a black and white question where you can it's a question of dead or alive it's very nuanced and and again we don't
• 27:00 - 27:30 have the ability to the term we have used actually is disabled which means that before now we used to see the opposition come up like you're saying push some policies that have been implemented that have changed so many things the way is going now in terms of representation we had the sda for example we have the nudp in parliament they were almost at power i think i think that you're going to do your criteria is flawed because you and you don't seem to be listening
• 27:30 - 28:00 to listening to what we're saying we're saying that that criteria itself is flawed because if you look at representation in offices in elected offices you need to also accept that the process that leads to that representation is not flawed if that process is flawed you cannot use representation to measure the we we have to use it or not there are irregularities in getting to the destination um you you are you are you are a political scientist you are reading of uh of what he's
• 28:00 - 28:30 saying yeah i think all of what we are saying here uh to me is very important but uh i have a small worry i think we we want to inform uh to share with our our our viewers our viewers what is actually happening in in the country at now yeah the opposition to call them alternative political parties have been able to to influence power positioning influence politics in the country i think i understood your question to be
• 28:30 - 29:00 those political parties have been disabled i think i totally agree that the political parties have been disabled from two fronts disabled by the system which is very clear making sure that elections fake elections i permit me say that election semblance of elections take place let's consider the elections that took place in the northwest and southwest regions where we had no electors to vote and that gave overwhelming victory to to to to the ruling party those were
• 29:00 - 29:30 not elections disabled also by their inability i'm coming i'm coming i wanted to look at it from that from that standpoint yeah so the government that's why i said that the government of the day the cpd and political party is doing everything to gain power the coin strategies is that another legit image it is legitimate i'm coming and then we move on today internal wranglings not proper political strategies
• 29:30 - 30:00 by some of the political parties i will come again to insist on the sdf not because we have a stone to throw at the sdf because we should be very sad i talked about polity all the political parties the undp is it has a base which is in the extreme not region the cdu has a base which is in in the new division the upc has its base which is this yes the sdf has its base
• 30:00 - 30:30 which is in the northwest and southwest regions we are not saying that they are not found elsewhere poor strategy strategic thinking made the sda have to conquer to go in for elections when they understood very clearly that their population were war that the greatest majority of the electorate had been displaced that the villages of people who supported that party had been burned and public statements you cannot be going for elections
• 30:30 - 31:00 even those were displaced and found all over call them idps today they did not move with they could not vote where they were they were not particular to the political party the sdf did not insist that wherever their militants were they should be given the opportunity to vote so lack of political thinking or strategic thinking within policies and this has caused a situation of disability i am very convinced that we all know that in the next days ahead we are not going to have senators from the northwest and
• 31:00 - 31:30 southwest regions we have to start from scratch okay but we are not saying that yes if everything was put on a level on a level playing ground we still think that um the opposition political parties have totally been disabled they have been dispatchable to a certain degree but they can bounce back if hierarchy without the political parties bouncing back thinking i insist on strategic thinking
• 31:30 - 32:00 they should be very sensitive to the sentiments of the people whom they are called upon to represent yes eugene you you speak uh prof has just talked about the possibility of the sdf bouncing back and obviously the possibility of the other political parties that have been disabled in cameroon bouncing back we spoke with a political scientist dr langenga derek who proposes what the sdf can do to reconquer power and by extension what
• 32:00 - 32:30 other political parties can do to come back let's listen to him [Music] the sda which stands for the social democratic front was created on may 26 1990 in order to be able to not demonopolize the political role enjoyed by the cameron people's democratic movement at the time and it marked the moment of
• 32:30 - 33:00 multi-partisan in this country the seven sailed all along from 1990 to of late to be an influential and second political force in this country but of late we are going to discover that with you know manifestations politically that can be described the sdf has consistently dropped to oblivion what are the reasons responsible for this and how can the azir be able to rejuvenate itself and reconquer the political terror on
• 33:00 - 33:30 which he enjoy of which he enjoyed some time ago we can say that if the sda wants to be able to reconquer the political you know space if she reconsiders her political strategies to willing to rewind electoral districts lost it would be another you know first major move politically speaking the sdf has lost completely grounds especially in our political field that used to be the northwest region of cameroon especially with the advent of the cessation is politics and manifestation secondly if she
• 33:30 - 34:00 participates in efforts to convince those decision fighters who are secessionists to become more republican and the azir being a political movement and enterprise will need a peaceful and stable environment in order to be able to prevail if she you know can be able to reconvene another major you know sdf convention which will include you know international as well as local you know as your militants and stakeholders so that in fact her manifesto will be considered
• 34:00 - 34:30 today we are talking of the fact that regionalism has conquered and as of the last seat of the elections where regional elections were organized we are going to discover that in fact it is a spirit of decentralization in a unitary state that is promoted by the cameron people's democratic party that is gaining ground it goes without saying if she can also consistently participate in all elections organized by elections cameron so as to be you know politically alive in cameroon because a political party
• 34:30 - 35:00 is an association of individuals created in order to win elections and maintain power for as long as possible when you are a political party that do not go for elections how do you think how do you imagine how do you wish to be able to win power and maintain it for as long as you wish she may deserve itself to resurface anew as a new political force or movement it is possible yeah it could be another strategy or if not she may get into a political alliance to set up a new political path
• 35:00 - 35:30 to re-emerge or bounce back [Music] yes we all listen to dr langenga derek your party has been challenged there yes kilian and i really regret the type of intellectuals or political
• 35:30 - 36:00 analysts we have in this country and unfortunately he is not the only one i have a sitting professor joel mayolo and this interview was taken on the same day that this house took my interview and told me that they were to air it on 7 30 news on last thursday but they didn't air it the french version of the news at my interview was less than 10 seconds they just made a statement that i may
• 36:00 - 36:30 cut everything out of context and then gave a lot of time to the so-called political analysts who come with big titles prophet saw politolog to talk a lot about israel that they don't know i want to take the first example from we are talking about what is yes no no no this is what he said you are talking about something no i am it is not something else how how do you command it how do you imagine i'm coming to him how do you imagine that prophet saw joel mello released that bernard munna
• 36:30 - 37:00 may so rest in peace pierre cuemo uh elimbi lobe and kawala were dismissed from the azir with a2 this is pure lies and it's a problem no no listen he was using that to say why is he have disabled he was within this then the the the the young man there or whatever is derek lange comes and says that the sdf should adopt the ideology in quotes of
• 37:00 - 37:30 the cpdm by embracing regionalism because to him regionalism is the one that is invoking the performance of the cpdm in the election show that cameroon have embraced regionalism as you have to change its its ideology saying that sdf should drop the issue of powers to the people and even reconfigure uh it's it's it's name and change he justifies the political party he justifies on what on the fact that decentralization is actually being bought by cameroonian power to the
• 37:30 - 38:00 people and i i disagree there is a difference between federalism and the congestion decentralization from the name decentralized comes from centralization power centralized in yaounde and then a bit of that person or parcel of power is decentralized meanwhile federalism is power from base bottom top based that is to say the majority of powers lies within the base only things of
• 38:00 - 38:30 sovereignty are handled are stopped you cannot you cannot support a policy so you cannot say please but clearly i have discovered that um whether your questions your incessant questions are meant to destabilize the discourse of somebody on this table to relaunch you no no you are not relaunching me because i am when i take over the floor is more of an argument between us but which is not fair he himself even wondered about that no we're not just religion no we i'm not saying should religiously
• 38:30 - 39:00 listen to me i'm saying that at least you should listen to me make a point before you react because yes i'm in the middle of making a point there are fours i say one there is you cannot on the results of the original elections that heard and the municipal elections are heard in this country to say that cameroonians have bought the idea of decentralization massively and that's why they are voting the cpd i think we have made this clear to all the viewers on this program that the years stick for popularity i think that um without an opposition um
• 39:00 - 39:30 we won't be able to move forward as a country i think what we need to under get to is a point where we know that um we can disagree on issues but we all have the same interest to how to build a strong country where people live in freedom and and can fulfill uh their their aspirations um the problem we've had is that we've understood political conceptualization of a position itself it's probably dramatic
• 39:30 - 40:00 okay now prof your last word yeah my last other i think i think uh take strong uh reservations with uh mr kelly modernity's position position against what he calls uh professors and all of that he should consider them as human beings as politicians are not tied to title of professors because we have the common tendencies of raining down on whosoever called professors to make nonsense of them if they are within the same political
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