CRTV - PRESS HOUR -(MND RECOMMANDATIONS : IMPLEMENTATIONS ? - COVID-19)- Sunday 06th September 2020

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Summary

The CRTV Press Hour program covers two main topics: the status of the implementation of the Major National Dialogue recommendations in Cameroon and the assessment of COVID-19 treatment using both traditional and modern medicines. Experts debate the progress and challenges of these societal issues, emphasizing the need for inclusive dialogue, peace restoration, and the regulation of traditional medicine practices. The program highlights the importance of community engagement and government accountability in addressing national and health crises.

Highlights

Debate on the success of the Major National Dialogue in Cameroon. 🌐
Discussion on using traditional medicine to combat COVID-19. 🌿
Panelists emphasize the need for a continued dialogue for peace. 📢
The role of nutrition and herbs in boosting immunity against COVID-19. 🥦
The importance of community involvement in peace-building in Cameroon. 🏗️

Key Takeaways

The Major National Dialogue aimed at restoring peace in Cameroon is a work in progress. 🔄
Traditional medicine is gaining recognition in Africa, especially for COVID-19 treatment. 🌿
Effective communication and involvement of all Cameroonians are vital for conflict resolution. ✌️
Modern and traditional medicines can coexist for the benefit of public health. 🤝
Despite challenges, there's a collective hope for peace and health improvements in Cameroon. 🇨🇲

Overview

In a riveting episode of CRTV's Press Hour, panelists dive deep into the challenges and progress made since the Major National Dialogue in Cameroon. They explore whether the recommendations have been implemented and the ongoing need for inclusive dialogue to bring lasting peace to regions affected by conflict. The atmosphere is charged with differing opinions, highlighting both achievements and shortcomings.

As the conversation shifts towards health, the panelists address the fascinating role of traditional medicine in treating COVID-19 alongside modern methods. Physicians and traditional practitioners discuss the symbiotic relationship between the two, emphasizing the potential benefits of integrating indigenous knowledge with contemporary health practices. The discourse reveals an underlying acknowledgment of the importance of regulating traditional medicine to ensure safety and efficacy.

Throughout the discussion, there's a poignant reminder of the resilience of Cameroonians. The need for effective communication, understanding among diverse groups, and a united front in both political and health crises is repeatedly stressed. The episode concludes on a hopeful note, urging all citizens to partake actively in peace and health initiatives to foster a more harmonious and healthy Cameroon.

Chapters

00:00 - 00:30: Music Introduction This chapter, titled 'Music Introduction,' appears to focus on a brief introductory segment related to music. The transcript indicates repeated use of the word 'Music,' likely as a thematic or atmospheric introduction. No further details are provided, suggesting this may be a prelude or brief overview without specific content elaboration.
03:00 - 04:30: Program Announcement The chapter titled 'Program Announcement' seems to be an introductory or announcing segment, as inferred from the given transcript which primarily contains music. With no specific details mentioned in the transcript, it likely serves as an opening or a transition segment in the larger context of a program.
04:30 - 06:30: Introduction of Panelists The chapter titled 'Introduction of Panelists' probably sets the stage for introducing the panelists in a session or conference. The transcript available is limited, containing only music indications, which suggests that this section might be accompanied by visual media or audio that names or displays the panelists. Without additional text, specific panelist details are not provided in the transcript.
07:00 - 10:00: Press Review The chapter 'Press Review' begins with some introductory music, setting the tone for what's to follow. It appears to be an audio segment likely involving reviews or discussions pertinent to recent media publications or press-related content. However, the initial transcript provided is limited, preventing a comprehensive summary.
11:00 - 24:00: Major National Dialogue Discussion The chapter titled 'Major National Dialogue Discussion' appears to delve into a specific instance or anecdote related to a sports event, possibly featuring a moment from a Liverpool football match. The brief transcript snippet provided includes a play where Alexander Arnold takes a corner, and Welbeck is mentioned, possibly in the context of executing a successful play or goal. However, without additional information, it's unclear how this relates to the broader theme of national dialogue discussion, suggesting a metaphorical or literal connection that needs more context.
39:00 - 60:00: COVID-19 and Traditional Medicine Discussion The chapter discusses the impact of COVID-19 on traditional medicine. However, the provided transcript contains music and applause noise, possibly indicating that the actual spoken content or discussion is missing in this transcript snippet. Further context or detail may be needed to craft a complete and accurate summary.
60:00 - 62:00: Program Conclusion and Farewell The chapter begins with a warm welcome to viewers, indicating a sense of anticipation for an exciting program. The host hints at the explosive nature of the topics to be discussed, promising an engaging experience. The first topic remains unnamed in this transcript snippet, building suspense for the audience.

CRTV - PRESS HOUR -(MND RECOMMANDATIONS : IMPLEMENTATIONS ? - COVID-19)- Sunday 06th September 2020 Transcription

00:00 - 00:30 [Music] [Music]
00:30 - 01:00 [Music] [Music] everyday oh yes
01:00 - 01:30 [Music] oh yes [Music]
01:30 - 02:00 [Music] oh oh yes
02:00 - 02:30 liverpool's corner taken by alexander arnold and in hits it's beautiful welbeck
02:30 - 03:00 i'll never call her in for two [Applause] [Music] pulpo [Music] [Music]
03:00 - 03:30 [Music] it's worth great pleasure that we welcome you again on the pres i said this day ladies and gentlemen it's going to be explosive today on the program we have two topics that will keep you spellbound as you watch the program today the first topic is
03:30 - 04:00 major national dialogue recommendations how far have we gone with the implementations and we're also going to uh treat another topic that is very topical uh covey 19 assessing the efficacy of national of natural therapeutic and modern medicines these are topics they are very topical and we have people who are up to the task they are going to hold you spellbound on the program today um to my extreme
04:00 - 04:30 right i have dr george iwani doctor george wane is an editorialist in crtv he is the spokesperson of the major national dialogue one year old today he's going to tell us how far the government has gone with the implementation of the recommendations next to me is professor professor charles focus is a toxic
04:30 - 05:00 pharmacogenetics i can go for genomics genomics okay what does that mean they say toxicology and pharmacology put together but looking at genes i see the drug development process thank you and you're going to enlighten us today on what is happening with the treatment of covid cameroon is already recording a very encouraging results with the debts but we have to
05:00 - 05:30 keep with the measures doctor yes to my left professor uh willie brought zengua uh you are a historian today you are also a political scientist but today you are on the set as the dll ddl consultant dl is the disarmament demobilization and reintegration uh commission
05:30 - 06:00 the national coordinator is uh mr pharyngo francis next to you is a a doctor also dr gideon dr gideon feligo he is a traditional medical practitioner he is also a public health phd student at the university of duty of chang doctor welcome to the program thank you thank you let me state it precisely that you deal in
06:00 - 06:30 more emotions you deal in traditional meetings including the spiritual treatment aspect of that uh hope you cannot prove that here but you're going to explain to us yeah yeah you are right you're right it's true we cannot really prove uh who present spirituality openly but then it is an aspect of african traditional mexicans which is very very important and should not scare people especially thank you that's the positive aspect of it it
06:30 - 07:00 scares so many people when it comes to the other side of it you have seen the panel we have rich panel highly pleased but when we come to discuss the issues you're going to get the best out of them before we do that the first thing on the program is a regular slot press review that reviews the week that just passed what did the paper say emmanuella vermee has that slot for us manuela
07:00 - 07:30 [Music] the press in cameroon offered a weak ending kept nosing for what to feed their readers on the guardian post took interest on the commotion in bermanda's police officer shot dead in broad daylight before aya bachchos adf claims responsibility for the shooting on the horizon then denizens lament of a bearing military reaction on the voice weekender
07:30 - 08:00 as the guardian post comes back on what it writes military shots down bemenda after killing of policemen to the herald tribune goketunje sdo accuses funds caught ahead of complicity with separatist fighters just when women say enough is enough on terrorist crimes against women on cameron tribune the same cry of women reported on the guardian post then international rights group catalogues fresh military accesses in northwest southwest on the guardian
08:00 - 08:30 post but the eden newspaper things armed conflict in northwest southwest regions beyond mere condemnation then resolutions of the major national dialogue are evaluated on cameron tribune municipal updates things government has sustained implementation momentum of the recommendations coming when the and population begs governments to rescue dying pamol on the guardian post the median sees pm jian gute helpless as pamul crumbles
08:30 - 09:00 flots development projects take a government delegation of seven ministers to the far north region and cameron tribune reacting to recent floods the eden rights focus on urban roads imperial rural real needs just when landslide buries four live homes farmland destroyed with over 100 displaced in kupe manunguba division on the herald tribune then via supports grieving flood victims
09:00 - 09:30 in dwala sanchu ebeda on eco outlook the stakes and challenges of expected regional elections are then presented on municipal updates as practical modalities of the elections outlined on cameron tribune then more khan rulers picks out on chief tennessee crisis in babungo on the garden post just when bamendang que gets new traditional ruler then west traditional ruler decries degrading cameroon on the beer but regrets
09:30 - 10:00 weak opposition on the horizon when 15 07 new potential voters registered on electoral list on cameroon tribune as guardian post reports over 15 000 new voters registered despite kovitt 19 but the post newspaper rides after wasting over cfa one billion cfa funds minister other specialized kovid 19 treatment centers dismantled let's now end our press review with a story on the herald tribune wherein councillors of the kumba
10:00 - 10:30 three council were taken aback as the attendance sheet and the deliberations of an extraordinary council session disappeared while the session was still on the councillors had gathered for the election of deputy mayor the highly controversial exercise marked by heated debates saw the deputy sdo for memes suspending the session and when it finally resumed the attendance and deliberations were nowhere to be found after thorough surge they were discovered in a closed gutter
10:30 - 11:00 of the cumber 3 council building until i come your way again this is your hour with the press god willing emmanuella you will be with us again next sunday for press ah thank you very much uh ladies and gentlemen it's about one year ago from uh september 18 to october
11:00 - 11:30 the fourth that uh cameroon gathered in what was called it's still called today the major national dialogue and it was a means to solve the crisis that we have had now for about four years in the country rocking the northwest and southwest regions but the major national dialogue was national it went beyond that and we're going to call on um one of our panelists who is the spokesperson of
11:30 - 12:00 that major national dialogue dr george iwani uh just tell us present the context with which in which that major national dialogue took place before we go into priorities and into halfa we have gone with the implementation of okay thank you very much maybe i should begin by saying um i'm happy to be on this set
12:00 - 12:30 uh because it is the first time i'm guest on on the press hour i watch the program from home with them part of cell tv but i enjoy what is happening on the set i also see the opportunity to salute the other members of the panel whom are meeting like professor for the first time and our doctor imam also meeting for the first time as for professor zengua we're together almost on a daily basis in the university so thank you very much i think the
12:30 - 13:00 background to the convenience of the major national dialogue is known by almost every cameroonian what i'll be saying is just to recall all right what happened we know that uh this is as a result of the different um corporate bodies that came up to ask for certain demands all right in the contract talking about lawyers and teachers which are finally degenerated into what today we call the cessationist
13:00 - 13:30 movement um but as far as the major national dialect itself is concerned we also understand that the president of the republic's excellency paul beer uh decided to solve the problems of these corporate bodies which were all solved but then another problem came up that of separation and this oppression pushed not the country to a dialogue which dialogue started before the major national dialogue it should be stressed that before the major national dialogue
13:30 - 14:00 this dialogue had been ongoing the prime minister of government when appointed you remember went down to the northwest and the southwest regions uh met the people in markets met them in different uh areas i talked to them in their language which is theirs pidgin it was the first time we were seeing that uh received so many other people from different walks of life at the prime minister's office uh sometimes even in private homes all right and this the major national dialogue was just the culmination
14:00 - 14:30 therefore all right of the different the dialogue process that started way back before so it was the same context that the situation was bad it was tense and it came to uh kind of watered down to solve this problem sure so now let us let us look at the priorities of the national dialogue before we go because our topic is how far have we gone with the implementation let us now look at what were the immediate priorities of the national dialogue what when the
14:30 - 15:00 participants were coming out for example they said make life return to normalcy schools should resume business you take off refugees and idp should return which are some of the priorities that we have to tackle yes if the question is directed to me then i'll be glad i'm glad to respond uh just to say uh that the the convenience of the major national dialogue which was done by the president of the public on the 10th of september
15:00 - 15:30 2019 which culminated to this major national dialect on the 30th 30th september to the 4th of september 2019 had us main objective to seek ways and means of bringing back peace and normalcy to the southwest and northwest regions but by extrapolation to other conflict areas in cameroon i'm talking about the northern parts of our country and uh you know killian that uh for five days
15:30 - 16:00 the kinetic forces of our country met at the yandere conference center to chat a course uh towards this now for you to be able to make an evaluation yeah we'll come to you yes yes let me just uh end that for you to be able to come to make an evaluation you should be able to know what happens before the major national dialogue and what obtains after the major national dialogue okay all right so we're going to do that professor zenba you were a participant i was there i saw you when you were a participant at the
16:00 - 16:30 major national dialogue do you agree what were some of the priorities that had to be tackled immediately after the national dialogue before we go into looking at whether we well uh thank you again i'm happy to share the fun i'll always stay with the dominion colleagues i think if i have to go straight to the question yes i agree in total with my my friend and brother dr joshua in his analysis these were expectations the national
16:30 - 17:00 dialogue was a culmination of expectations i mean from the onset of a crisis situation in in the country which the president of the country and with the international community i must say including civil society actors thought that it was incumbent for dialogue to take place there were others who thought that this dialogue should be with neutral personalities to chair but i think the many a cameroonian thought that it was a
17:00 - 17:30 national issue we should be handled nationally i think that called for the national dialogue and i thought that the most important thing was that peace should return to cameroon especially in the northwest and southwest regions and the solutions provided to to to the teachers and lawyers who were actually the cornerstone of the the crisis but then the greatest majority by statistics and
17:30 - 18:00 research revealed that it was not only to solve the problem of the teachers and lawyers but that it had to go beyond solving deep rooted causes of discontent amongst the populations of the northwest and southeast regions professor charles fakuna i don't know whether you were a participant or not but you have a level of appreciation that is very high there how do you appreciate the first of all
18:00 - 18:30 the fact that cameroonians had to come together to solve what today many describe as a senseless war um misguided kind of action that is not helping the country thank you kilian for giving me the flow and for inviting me to a talk show i think i i watch from from television where the outsiders or the backbenchers i was i didn't i was not invited to participate but that notwithstanding is a problem
18:30 - 19:00 that is national and i think the beginning of solving this problem was when the head of state publicly recognized that there was a journey and valid problem that needed to be addressed so the rest of the process put in place it definitely means that the problem is there and how do we solve it animation national dialogue came into play i think when you have a problem you have
19:00 - 19:30 a set of objective general objectives to address that objective at the end of the the work you need to evaluate which of course that's what they did but i'm happy to say that uh the people who were involved they said that it's a process so which means is still ongoing exactly it doesn't mean that they see a lot to be done yes much has been done but they see a lot that is a process that's why our topic is how far we have
19:30 - 20:00 gone with implementation uh dr gideon um did the national the major national dialogue comfort you before that is it was announced and after thank you very much let me seize this opportunity to say i have the privilege to be on this panel with a series of professors and yourself i will continue to say that
20:00 - 20:30 i am here as a medical traditional practitioner with the equally secretary of national ad hoc committee for traditional medicine and let me continue to say that the major national dialogue that took place in cameroon it was a great event but then i also watch from uh television it is true normally for for me i thought during the invitations that were
20:30 - 21:00 met at outside i think uh guardians of our tradition they were represented we are now going to tackle what we came here for this first topic how far how we're going with the implementation there's the spokesperson of the media national dialogue okay let's begin with you if i begin to tell you how we've gone through the implementation we'll spend the whole day
21:00 - 21:30 uh but yes could could i could i break it down um let us look first of all the priority i was there they said um life should return to normalcy yes i know that that is that is the end result is the end result of the implementation of all the recommendations made uh during the major national dialogue uh that life returns normalcy that peace returns to these two regions all right and that the number of that
21:30 - 22:00 issues of development and recovery and so on and so forth uh take place but as we said that is a process all right for you to be able to know whether the major national dialogue has been a success like i said at the beginning is first of all to look at what the station was before the major national dialogue we all know what it was very bad situation all right where nobody could ever move you could never move from one city to another within these two regions you could not even feel comfortable staying at home
22:00 - 22:30 all right people were hiding under the beds and a number of so some illustration was a sad situation it was in fact the sorry situation uh now after the major national dialogue the recommendations that were made as many recommendations as you can imagine i cannot list the recommendations here but if i can delve into the details uh those recommendations the president of the public promised all right in a tweet on the fourth of uh october 2019 that those recommendations were going to be applied
22:30 - 23:00 to the letter depending on our capacities all right and feasibilities and diligently applied and that is what we've seen so far so far we've seen that all what is happening in our country today is an application of the recommendations of the major national dialogue i can cite i can cite a few i was just going to all right i can set a few you have the creation of the ddro center of which uh professor zengua is a consultant you know what has been happening there so many of these boys dropped their arms
23:00 - 23:30 and today they did their centers some of them have been reintegrated already while others are still joining them that is one positivity you also have uh the the release itself of 333 uh detainees even before the end of the major national dialogue that was a recommendation uh that was done you always been hard before they recommend before the major national dialogue the release of um i think 289 other people were involved in the crisis that was a way of creating a thought
23:30 - 24:00 it's a historical terminology a tour in the relations all right so that people could feel uh very free but also you have and this is very important uh the law on the decentralization and local authorities which was voted in parliament all right and uh promulgated by the president of the republic which law in fact is a very rich document uh that provides uh the southwest and the norwegians with uh the special status all right and
24:00 - 24:30 these special statues can only be applied with what is happening now the original elections the house of chiefs and all of that so we're moving towards that you have the presidential plan uh for re for the reconstruction and development of the southwest and norwegians i'm just quoting uh some of the major highlights of this uh this recommendation we're going to this plan is our food yeah i know we're coming to that yes and this plan is also very important which is our food right now so today what is happening on the ground
24:30 - 25:00 i want to end with that before you see the microphone from me what is happening on the ground is what is that you can move from here to bermuda it's okay you can move within the southwest regions from boya and all of that that people are going to the markets that people go to the night clubs are live it's coming back to normal it may be very slow but it is there uh even if and i insist on saying that even if you have a few pockets of violence all right uh from some areas the norris and the
25:00 - 25:30 southwest regions which i do not think are dependent on the quest for separation but you have a group of young men uh somebody said they were under the influence of narcotics because if you kill and maim and rape and decapitate they are no longer normal i'm sure a spiritual presidency all of that they carry what it's called or they see with them yes some of them deceive themselves and they die with those things sure uh we can always take this uh pro
25:30 - 26:00 professor uh willie brought zengua you listen to what dr george wanna say the spokesperson of the national um major national dialogue yeah very comfortable life as he says he's gradually returning and everything is well well well i have been presented variously as a technical advisor for the ddrs i am from an international perspective not from the national perspective i must make that known okay and uh i'm not here representing
26:00 - 26:30 the i'm not talking for them because i did not consult them to talk i'm talking as a foot soldier for peace to return to cameroon and maybe i take this opportunity to to thank the prime minister the prime minister who have considered me important to invite me to make a contribution because i want to make a statement before i react to that analysis because my division of origin did not consider me enough to be an elite for my division my region
26:30 - 27:00 did not consider me elite enough yeah yeah that's not going to i i want to get to this point um and then the prime minister thought that because of the contributions we have been making we can do a contribution to the nation i think that is very important now i want to say this to to react to my my colleague statement the most important thing was to have peace return to the regions uh i think it would be full hearty to think that things are getting fast to
27:00 - 27:30 normalcy far from the point i'm a foot soldier for peace i've gone to the areas we try to do peace building practical what kind of field what i can say is that the initiatives are welcoming they are very very very important but we should change strategies in getting inclusion and effective participation to get the peace return to the northwest and southwest regions we should not behave as though it is a
27:30 - 28:00 captive people who force should be rendered on them to toe the line i think the most important thing about peace is peace building we have just talked about reconstruction the most important aspect of reconstruction should be the reconstruction of the mind and what i call soft power reconstruction i think what we should be engaged in doing in the field is to get both sides of the divide change those strategies is it not happening uh it is not very
28:00 - 28:30 much happening is it it is not very it is it is happening faintly by civil society organization the government is doing everything as i should say but but what we have been able to say i'm not an expert in communication but but i think that as a food soda for peace and reconciliation communication is very important the words we use when approaching those in the field matter um it is important i've considered those who are called thieves cessationists ask cameroonians who are discounted
28:30 - 29:00 unless we approach those people with that same approach and then we talk peace to them we talk reason to them with practical action in the field let me let me ask this before you continue somebody's holding god yes and as he said it's under the influence of narcotics you go to that person and say you want to those are the thieves let me be totally in agreement with what dr joshua said the situation has degenerated to extend that we have some problems for picked up
29:00 - 29:30 the guns for selfish people i mean going away from the original idea of asserting a feeling i think that we have the leadership of the struggle permit me say who are still in prison should be released on his team that was tacked with them because they are cameroonians whether they consider themselves as ambassadors or saudi cameroonians or not i consider them as cameroonians who have
29:30 - 30:00 expressed this gruntfulness and the government is at another page we want them to say engage in dialogue the dialogue is being done but to whom are we dialoguing you say they should be released but they people say according to the law they have been sentenced according to the law the president of the republic is above uh i think he's a humanist these people might have committed errors he has forgiven others and i think that
30:00 - 30:30 that simple gesture of a father of the nation to say that yes you've wronged the nation come out let's talk it's important i think that we agree but has he changed his position the position for which he was in prison well i don't know okay so that's exactly where we have to to see whether you are accused of not communicating so well yes that is true that is true
30:30 - 31:00 the communication on the ground is not a robust communication i agree about that all right i agree with dr professor zengua uh because many of the things that are done are not known all right on the ground uh we need to have a 360 degrees robust communication turn around like my friend mr dashaku did indicate the other day so that the nitty-gritty of the things that are done on the ground which even the the remotest village
31:00 - 31:30 all right and the remotest villager uh in in this in these two regions for sure much has been done but a lot has been done okay i just gave you a few examples uh like i said for you to be able to know what that that has been changed you should compare two situations the situation before the major national dialogue and the situation after the major national dialogue yeah as we speak uh you can go to many of these towns okay you said you said that earlier i said that earlier let us let us talk about uh these two because we have a sec a second uh
31:30 - 32:00 very crucial things um about the major national dialogue we're talking about the general decentralization code which a few days ago the president of republic signed uh documents actually partitioning giving the modalities uh we're just waiting for uh the convenience of the convening of the electoral college all right now how do you appreciate um this
32:00 - 32:30 part of it like like i said we will talk about that and we'll talk about special status those two and then we'll move out of this topic okay but before i come to that permit me kill and to come back to what uh professor zengua said about uh liberating uh sisika you tabe and the others dialoguing with them uh he's a specialist in that domain uh in peace building and in dialogue conflict resolution i think that everybody has to give a share you have to give up something
32:30 - 33:00 all right when you when you stay stagnant on your position you are not helping the process to to move forward and that is the situation as we speak all right that what you call the ringleaders i don't know how how much of leadership they have because it really does on the ground all right what you call the ringleaders i have a stagnant position that makes it difficult for for things to evolve but like i said the dialogue is ongoing all right it cannot stop because uh they
33:00 - 33:30 have a stagnant person some it's all it's always even mad men change their minds all right someday it's going to win to change their mind yes i will come to exactly yes and now the original elections like i said the law on local authorities provides for these local elections promulgated by the president of the republic so it is also a recommendation of the major national dialogue it is one of the things uh that were highly recommended besides separation besides
33:30 - 34:00 federalism we came to a special status and for you to have a special status you need to fast-track fast-track these regional elections okay and so the law just vote i mean i mean the decree of the president of republic of thursday is in tandem with this movement and in turn them with the recommendations of the major national dialogue yes thank you uh professor zengua let me ask you this question the regional
34:00 - 34:30 councillors regional councils with the regional councillors very soon we will have that i think without any fear of contradiction would be the completion of the provisions that were laid down in the 1996 constitution that's the only thing that was remaining now with that completed with the law that was signed the other day you appreciate it and then you just give a brief appreciation also of how you
34:30 - 35:00 understand the special status that people thought was the alternative to make those people of the norwegian southwest feel different well all of those laws all of those actions in the field the ultimate reason is to bring that back peace to cameroon but then the question is are those people satisfied with the way because there's a difference between a law and the practical implementation of those laws in the field are the people contented with the manner
35:00 - 35:30 in which these laws are being implemented to the field let me talk about the elections we just want elections to take place fine it is very great that the constitution i i totally agree as a prince that the traditional authorities would not be robbing soldiers with commoners so to say that they will have a house of chiefs i think that is very appealing to me but then are the greatest majority of the people happy with what is happening we just want peace i think that the key
35:30 - 36:00 factor should have been let peace return to an extent we should have measured the degree of peace in the underground before we go into any elections we saw uh the diminished territorial administration rallying traditional authorities and convincing them to go back to the field because of elections now i i think that it is good to have these elections but the traditional ruler should not stay out of they are chief dorms and kingdoms and condoms because of fear of the unknown okay the
36:00 - 36:30 reality is that there is a fear of the unknown that everybody knows let's not insist on elections when peace have not returned now let's talk about the elections now probably yes [Music] i just have a small worry because it seems as though we are still going to lay the elections to come and go and we will still lay seats of discord because what i mean is you see the distribution of the seeds you you realize that it doesn't there's no scientific
36:30 - 37:00 analysis on how these seeds have been allocated to different regions i think that we should accept that if all other things were done this way would not be bad because every region with that discrimination has the same number of uh no no if they have the same number of regional councils the division but you have 70 and seventy delegates and twenty traditional laws every region has that okay you want me to intervene a bit all the regions have the same number of seats
37:00 - 37:30 all right uh the difference comes in at the level of the divisions and you know that our divisions are so complex you have uh in the law the law is clearly stated that you need to take into consideration uh socio-political and cultural components of every region yes okay including the populations that we have so you cannot get faku for instance you cannot have falco uh with ten uh seats and you have my division copenhagen whereas more
37:30 - 38:00 cosmopolitan than copenhagen so those gymnastics were taken into custody yes that is a good comparison yes but let's compare it differently the south the south region okay and the northwest region or the southwest region yes then you see that in terms of population and representation there's totally important what i'm trying to say there is that if there was a keen study to say that this population should have this number then we are not going to i want to if you permit insist that
38:00 - 38:30 there are areas with huge populations with very few representations and there are others with very few populations yeah but the goal of it is at the level of the religion that every region has the same number of representations what is the most important thing thank you thank you thank you thank you uh gentlemen yes you are talking to people they've appreciated what you say we have another topic it's about the treatment of covet 19 and other
38:30 - 39:00 illness is putting the african traditional medicine side by side modern medicines and before we talk about that please just watch this african traditional medicine has over the years been neglected by many who argue that the herbs collected from the abundance of nature are evil but with the advent of the coronavirus many baffled some city dwellers have
39:00 - 39:30 resorted to the use of traditional medicine doesn't only treat povet 19 but other illnesses such as cough and qatar many people are now consuming traditional medicine because of kaveed they now value their own medicine i love proper medicine their desire is for the state to regulate their sector so that they can operate freely in diverse forms these concoctions have been
39:30 - 40:00 produced from plants by traditional medical practitioners who say they treat several diseases many are involved in the sector these days and this has caused tongues to work vis-a-vis via official recognition first of all we have a empm who do some tests on the products we have for example chemical tests the dc tests and the activity of the product having made a difference between rehabilists and charlatans
40:00 - 40:30 the scientists and the re-traditional doctors must move together it is the force of the skeleton that a renowned traditional doctor is known if there were no skeletons in the in in the in the domain i would have been in my bedroom i better bruises but now that they are challenged they are causing me to to sit up and work harder the diseases which we have been curing before the outbreak of this pandemic people have cut the virus they have that manifestation
40:30 - 41:00 of the diseases that we are occurring and who have come to us they are not they are all responding now fine at a time some have taken the commitment to support government response plan in the struggle against the covenanting pandemic in the country by producing locally made medication they are however calling on stakeholders to reinforce the regulation of the domain [Music] last monday the day of the african
41:00 - 41:30 traditional medicine was commemorated to some somebody was celebrated across the continent and we have so many views about the treatment of covid19 the treatment of many other illnesses and so many people are saying the many people are not dying of coffee 19 in africa because of the traditional medicine but the modern medicine is there and they say we should not joke because
41:30 - 42:00 there are so many things to handle the african traditional medicine has to be regulated because most of what happens there is not conventional doctor professor charles focus let us know exactly where you stand as modern medicine movers in this coffee 19 treatment thank you very much again kilian for giving me the opportunity
42:00 - 42:30 to express myself in this area of traditional medicine and covet i will start by paying tribute to the line of traditional doctors where i come from the focus family for the great work they've done in integrative medicine in cameroon and all the traditional doctors that are out there working to make sure that they foster primary health care a well over now coming back to this issue i want to say that we have to start by understanding what is traditional medicine
42:30 - 43:00 traditional medicine is a health practice or belief or knowledge which is applied using herbs plants animal mineral substances spiritual approach manual techniques and exercise all this to try and treat prevent or manage a disease
43:00 - 43:30 or to help the welfare of humans now when we look at what is happening our example is coffee 19. we have fewer debt in africa in cameroon for example we have 19 well it's it's evolutivity evolving we have 19 604 cases with 18 448 cases uh um recovered with 414 only but in other countries let me just
43:30 - 44:00 take the example of the united states of america they have 6.35 million cases um infected they have um 341 million recovered and 191 000 people who have died of covet 19. when you look at that what explains this uh difference between the debts in other areas and the debts in africa because if you
44:00 - 44:30 go to asia it's almost the same thing india is um the third brazil is the second then russia is the fourth yeah thank you very much again it's simple you know the developed countries these are countries where co-morbidity co-morbidity is very high to begin with and their lifestyle in africa camaro in particular we live very close to nature close to nature means that our diet itself
44:30 - 45:00 they all constitute helps on a daily basis we eat food that are spices and so on so and then our condition living under constrained condition means that our immune system is so high so those are some of the common factors that may make us not to be too predisposed just imagine a situation of the mad people in the street we are not even respecting social distances
45:00 - 45:30 but i'm not a an emergency expert but when you talk of pandemic fast pandemically covet you expect to see that in the hospital the emergency that the rate at which ambulance are flowing is very high but we don't find that so my my belief is that because people are exposed because people are not challenged to this there may be a tendency that we have acquired immunity and other external factors like our
45:30 - 46:00 nutritions and our helps may have helped us if i understand you well uh professor it means that that covey is very much with us but it's not ex being expressive it's not yet viral and it's not yet we've not had the cases where it is explosive where people are attacked maybe we'll get there because we are not respecting social distances i suppose we don't wish that because that's not withstanding you know you mentioned
46:00 - 46:30 something about when wuham the epicenter of this kobe 19 there was an explosion but the other chinese countries because they've lived kovit they've had since 2003 so they understand we went into research to find out that they have traditional medicine herbs herba tea that they take so you realize that it was easily contained because there was high production of this herbal
46:30 - 47:00 tea which they were using so it actually contained it but in the u.s where you have co-morbidity you have people with respiratory problems people with metabolic diseases it's very difficult and then the population the urbanism the urbanization all those factors contribute if people don't respect the measure that transmission is rapid dr gideon are you clapping and holding your head very high that uh following his explanation that you
47:00 - 47:30 of the african traditional medicine are having it over modern medicine when it comes to covet 19 especially yeah let me say i'm buying the opinion of professor for kunan traditional mexican is inherent from our culture and it is of late unfortunately that our country or our continent has taken the issue of traditional
47:30 - 48:00 mexicans to a certain height i wanted to say that the nutritional factor that he has mentioned is very very important you cannot fight any disease without having an immune system which is prepared and when you look at the food the nutrition that africans we the africans we consume we discover that we live on herbs we live on seats we live on routes we live on in short natural substances even those
48:00 - 48:30 who live in towns because i don't seem to see that applying in urban areas as much yeah mr default you should understand that our towns are already full with all the the items that come from the rural areas if you go to machiavelli to any surrounding market here you discover that if you want any natural substance you can get it especially as food but let me see this opportunity on this planet to say that it is high time we valorize african
48:30 - 49:00 traditional mexican in our context china has evolved today because of their traditional mexicans and in cameroon in particular our own context i know the draft project that is intending to put forward uh the importance of traditional mexicans in cameroon is still on the bench but uh during our uh during the celebration of our 18th edition of african traditional mexican day the other day we made mention about that in
49:00 - 49:30 the speech different speeches that we receive we will come to that to show how you can regulate such a very difficult complex do you treat covet 19 as a traditional medical practitioner do you treat i will respond yes and i am i'm not the only medical traditional practitioner who treats kavit knight i keep record personally i keep record and most of us we keep records because when the patients they come in uh previously how do i confirm that i treat
49:30 - 50:00 uh covet there is a famous product african panacea sorry for mentioning that yeah but then this product is existing in cameroon now for more than 20 25 years and there are europeans and americans who consume this product so before the advent of the cov19 our product was already with some of the people over there and that that is a problem who suffered from covet 19 in the u.s who got themselves tested took african
50:00 - 50:30 panacea and later on when they went for analysis it was confirmed that the the virus disappeared so later on here in our own country many people came it is true i don't have a center to have or covet patients but the patients who came that i discovered later on that they were since had symptoms we have it is an illness that have symptoms so those who came with those symptoms to us we administered our products to them and
50:30 - 51:00 later on it was discovered that these symptoms disappeared just like so many who are asymptomatic who probably might not have come to you and they have got well probably but that's not uh you talked of african panacea and it's one of the areas we're going to discuss today panacea means it treats everything it's a cure for everything that should be a problem of african-americans well let me say that african partners is
51:00 - 51:30 just the name it does not mean that malaysia for what we know in english means that it's a cure for everything that is to go this right it treats everything is it possible for one drug african or modern to treat everything because that's what it means panacea yeah panacea african mixture that mixture that is the panacea it is it's a mixture okay so but to give you a response to the fact that it cures every illness it is not true like that's
51:30 - 52:00 what it has people here in buses and commuters and the rest that panacea means anything you have it's commercial language okay let me clarify the fact that the product african panacea has a leaflet and that product cures just 17 problems okay among those 17 problems we have issues like covet 19 and other viruses yes uh professor ajingwa yeah i think it's a very interesting topic commitment we talk now as a
52:00 - 52:30 president for african researchers in comparative education whose intention is to valorize africa's knowledge and place it at the same level at the marketplace of global knowledge i think what we want to say here is that we i think we should stop calling modern medicine and traditional medicine yeah i think it should be western medicine or foreign medicine and indigenous medicine because we can valorize that and put them at the marketplace of knowledge and study in a comparative basis i think experience shows that you go to japan they have
52:30 - 53:00 japanese meds you go to china they have chinese medicine indian medicine so africa should be able to i think it's an appeal for our ministerial department who are involved in health to be able to valorize the indigenous medicine because it is existed and done well the world over dr george yes i find this the topic very interesting we are not specialists in that domain at least i'm the only person who's left out of that domain because he is a researcher too at least in that area but
53:00 - 53:30 i want to take us back uh to what we call the white mythology that you say anything that is white is good it's beautiful it's the best it is wrong because the white mythologies was that you come to africa you colonize you explore you exploit you you think that you're educating that you are civilizing all right and that for anything to be worth something it has to be european or white no and it's the same situation we're facing in our political system
53:30 - 54:00 all right where if it is not the solution coming from outside into our country then it's not a solution no we are africans uh the question i usually ask is what were our parents doing how did they live for so long before even the coming of the white man it is time i think it's even urgent that african traditional medicine they call african tragedies i want to call it medicine it's our medicine okay that our medicine be given pride of place okay all right that uh this should be
54:00 - 54:30 valorized uh it is true okay science will say no we don't know what quantity to take or whatever kind of thing no those things did not exist when our parents were dead they did not exist so we should be proud i'm coming to convict before you go to prof we should be proud to see and be happy in fact praise god that by virtue of our constitution bodily constitution and environmental constitution and the things that we have around us which are useful because every white man medicine is from our own area so we can
54:30 - 55:00 and they have so i mean they had a photocopy of what we have as the original so i think we should give priority to of our traditional doctors uh to to develop the look at that the individual and go ahead and valorize this exactly yes modern medicine is challenging yes we are becoming a bit emotional instead permit me to explain where traditional medicine and modern medicine comes to me
55:00 - 55:30 because i'm a traditionalist coming from a traditional mexican background and i've had the privilege to work in developing modern drugs in one of the best pharmaceutical company in the world so it's good for you to have that so that we don't get emotional in traditional medicine herbal medicine right let me give a scenario somebody you you are sick and your father goes behind the house and bring you some concoction mix or dr gideon you go out there
55:30 - 56:00 you buy a medication or a friend comes and gives you medication because he was sick and took that or you go and consult now when it comes the question you have to ask is if i take this am i going to be cured right if i take this will i call would will it cause other harm to me what is the quality let me finish that is what you'll be asking the traditional doctor will tell you that it is safe because
56:00 - 56:30 others have used it and others have used it they have not died so it is safe it's working because when you don't feel bad anymore it definitely means that you are working so that is what is this and therefore with traditional doctors they are categorized level one category one where you just get the product and give directly for the patient to take that is fine okay you don't need because
56:30 - 57:00 because traditional medicine has been recognized do you know that it is a course in the university now yes but it took yeah and and that's why and it's under regulation not just relationships not yet regulated it's good for us to understand you have no problem evident base means that when you give you need to show that it works it is safe and it it has quality yes just just just one word because we have to take the reactions
57:00 - 57:30 that are coming from our viewers uh briefly you are also a modern uh doctor of modern medicines yeah professor what should people do people should continue to observe the measures because in that group
57:30 - 58:00 to be latent at some stage it will explode so it's prevention is better than cure exactly and that's the only best way to go for now thank you uh bruno you are here with um the opinions of our viewers their contributions that's why they have been keenly following on the discussions and they have their own parts to play in the debates here and we start with tata napoleon who says how major was the major national dialogue when the major became the minor
58:00 - 58:30 on the dialogue table if the problem was not meaningfully handled how can we talk about the degree of application of the proposals apply drugs for headache on another disease and expect perfect treatment is a try and error method we have also emmanuel que bicolo he says as a quote that the major national dialogue was to seek solutions to the crisis in the other side of cameroon the crisis wasn't really discussed
58:30 - 59:00 however some recommendations from the major national dialogue could quench the crisis in the short term if implemented by now but implementation is at its nearest pace and we have the last reactions from uh su bless chia he starts by talking about major that national dialogue is the coffee 19 and the traditional healers he says the coming of kovite 19 has simply showed to the world that the modern and natural medicine can exist
59:00 - 59:30 together i bet you that the number of cases that have been recorded in cameroon is not up to half of what it should be the consumption of other natural medications helped to reduce the death rate given now and exposed negligence of some which have been and he concludes that the recommendations from the major national dialogue have proven that it was a waste consequently the government should consider to stand and call a ceasefire and engage frank and inclusive dialogue
59:30 - 60:00 thank you very much that was radha really long day bruno but thank you all the same for making those other viewers see what some other people were concerned and each time you can always watch this program on citv web facebook we stream live you watch it now or afterwards i want to thank you that's where we're going to end this program uh dr gideon dr guidion perliango thank you for coming thank you very much
60:00 - 60:30 i i think we are happy for the interest that this program is giving on the african traditional mexican and we are also informing the population that they should not be afraid african traditional mexican is not all about evil there are plants that has spiritual ventures that we can use to cure thank you invisible problems thank you professor asiangwa thank you for coming thank you we need peace in cameroon now more than ever before and we need inclusion in the peace building and reconstruction
60:30 - 61:00 process going on in canada professor charles for kunan thank you thank you again for giving me the floor and thank you for inviting me i mean cameron is going through a period of great challenge the head of state has won one first battle to solve the conflict between bakassi and he did not get a nobel peace prize for that i think the big challenge in milestone would be to solve the anglophone problem to bring peace that thank you we all applaud him and recommend him for thank you thank you
61:00 - 61:30 i'll be pleased dr george iwani yes thank you following the footsteps of the others to say it was a beautiful program and to also remind our fellow brothers and sisters cameroonians that the the quest for peace is a permanent construct and that we almost play a vital role in ensuring that peace and normalcy return to the northeast and southwest regions thank you and that one more life lost is one two learning too much thank you
61:30 - 62:00 very much uh gentlemen um we want to thank you very much for giving us your time it's here that we draw the curtains on today's edition of press r but you have to stay blessed wherever you are [Music]
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