Debunking Ryan Day's Claims Against the Seventh-Day Sabbath.

Summary

Highlights

• Genesis 2 is framed as the moment God invests the seventh day with holy significance 🙌
• The speaker says the real issue is not the text but attempts to escape the Sabbath command 😅
• A broader biblical pattern of separation leading to union is used to explain creation week and redemption 🌍
• The “evening and morning” argument is dismissed as a modern internet-era objection 🧵
• The video ends by affirming that the Sabbath belongs to creation, not merely Sinai ✅

Key Takeaways

• The seventh day is presented as different because God rested, blessed it, and sanctified it 🌟
• The absence of “evening and morning” in Genesis 2 is argued to be a non-issue, not a proof against Sabbath creation 🌅
• Exodus 20’s “remember” is used as evidence that the Sabbath already existed before Sinai 🧠
• Mark 2:27 is cited to support the idea that the Sabbath was made for humanity, not just Israel ✨
• Hebrews 4 is brought in to connect God’s rest after creation with ongoing Sabbath theology 📖

Overview

Chapters

• 00:00 - 03:00: Introducing the Sabbath Debate and Ryan Day's Claims The speaker introduces a debate about whether the Sabbath was established in Eden or at Sinai, explaining that the discussion centers on Ryan Day’s argument and related biblical interpretation. He frames the topic respectfully, noting that Ryan Day is not to be hated, and previews that he will respond with scripture and supporting references.
• 03:00 - 07:00: Genesis Creation Week: Evening, Morning, and the Seventh Day The speaker notes that Genesis 1 describes each of the first six creation days with the repeated phrase “evening and morning,” but that this wording is absent from the seventh day. He argues this difference is significant and suggests the seventh day is being treated differently from the other six days, not simply as another ordinary day ending in the same way.
• 07:00 - 11:00: Is the Sabbath Named or Only Implied in Genesis? The speaker responds to the claim that Genesis 2 names the Sabbath as a noun, arguing instead that the passage uses the Hebrew verb sabat (“cease”) rather than the noun Shabbat. He says Genesis describes God finishing and ceasing from creation, not instituting a holy day in the same explicit way as Exodus 20, where the Sabbath is named directly.
• 11:00 - 15:00: Critiquing the 'New' Anti-Sabbath Argument The speaker argues that critics of Sabbath observance are not engaging a new issue but are inventing novel objections because traditional Seventh-day Adventist defenses have already addressed the standard arguments well. He frames the discussion as a response to recent anti-Sabbath claims, especially those using “evening and morning” language.
• 15:00 - 20:00: Creation Pattern, Completion, and God's Rest The speaker explains that Genesis establishes a creation pattern of separation followed by union and completion, culminating in the sixth day when humanity is created as God’s image-bearers to reflect His creative work on earth. The seventh day is presented as the day of complete union and perfect rest, with no evening-and-morning formula, symbolizing full completion rather than the end of time or the abolition of the Sabbath. He argues that the fall reintroduced separation, and the biblical narrative is about God restoring humanity to that original state of perfect completion and union with Him.
• 20:00 - 25:00: Exodus 20 and the Meaning of 'Remember the Sabbath' The speaker argues that Exodus 20:8’s command to “remember the Sabbath” implies the Sabbath already existed before Sinai, since one cannot remember something brand new. He ties the command back to creation, asking how God could point to the seventh day rest in Genesis as the basis for Sabbath keeping if the Sabbath were only introduced at Mount Sinai. The speaker also cites Mark 2:27 to press the question of when the Sabbath was originally made.
• 25:00 - 30:00: God's Rest as the Basis for Sabbath Institution The speaker argues that Sabbath observance is grounded in God’s own rest after creation: because God rested, people should rest as well. He says the Sabbath was instituted at creation, making it a blessed, sanctified, and holy day set apart by God’s presence.

Debunking Ryan Day's Claims Against the Seventh-Day Sabbath. Transcription

• Segment 1: 00:00 - 02:30 Um, was the Sabbath in Eden or did it begin at Sinai? >> It's been a while since I have talked about Ryan Day, so we might as well do that today. I remember when we had our conversation. Um, wow. We're talking about April 20th, 2025. That was a year and maybe two months ago, man. Um, this was a really fruitful conversation as well. Some people liked it, some people didn't, but I don't feel bad for it. I talked to the brother, but we're not entertaining his ideas uh consistently on the platform. But nevertheless, this is not a brother we should hate, but love um because he chose to go a different path. There's no condemnation if he is in Christ Jesus. But I I think tonight um conversation I want to talk about is there is an argument now about the institution of the Sabbath in Eden. Is was the Sabbath instituted in Eden or at Sinai or are we making this thing up? So we're going to listen to part of the argument and what is being presented here and I'm going to share some ideas and some thoughts from the word of God. And uh by the way, we're going to make reference to a few videos. But brother Fisherman Corner. Oh man. Oh man. I got to tell you, man, that was amazing. Fisherman Corner. I'm going to make a reference to his channel today for what he just did in this video. And I think we need to do a live stream. Brother man, brother Matt, you need to come on AMC for a discussion on that one. That was just too good. And I texted him. I said, "Brother Matt, you know, you know that was good. That was good." And I'm going to let you guys take a listen to that. Okay. Sit tight. Let's listen to the argument that Ryan Day is bringing here with Pastor Mike. Read. So Ryan, what does it say? >> Yeah. Says, "Thus the heavens and the
• Segment 2: 00:00 - 02:30 earth were finished and all their multitude. And on the seventh day, God finished the work that he had done. And he rested on the seventh day from all the work that he had done. So God blessed the seventh day and hallowed it because on it God rested from all the work that he had done in creation. >> So what are uh what are what are your like observations of what the text does
• Segment 3: 02:30 - 05:00 say and what does it not say? Well, I I do find it interesting that, you know, this is obviously an an extension of what we just read in Genesis 1, which is the actual creation account. >> And I find it interesting that um before and beyond this point regarding the seventh day itself um very different in the sense that on on day 1, day two, day three, day four, day five and day six, you know, each one of those days it ends with in the evening and the morning was the first day. The evening in the morning was the second day. The evening in the morning was the third day. So forth and so on all the way down to day six. But when you get to day seven, that that that language is not there. The >> evening and the morning was the seventh day. It's not there. And I believe there's a reason for that. So I noticed that automatically different than the other six days. That language is not present. uh um as a demarcation of time uh uh you know in >> I'm sorry if you see me smiling it's because I already see the theological flaw in the argument and I'm like really you seriously going to do that now come on Ryan day what done happened to you you know anyway I I'll keep I'll keep listening this is this crazy >> ending or coming to an end as you see those previous six days due. Um, also I just want to highlight and I made some notes over here and I'll just put these right here in front of me. Um, you'll notice here that uh it says that he rested and this is where a lot of uh, you know, again this is for years me as a seventh adventist when you read this and it says that you know he done three things. This is where the Adventist is going to highlight that there's three things done here that is not done to any of the other previous six days, right? And that is that he rested, he blessed, and he sanctified or
• Segment 4: 02:30 - 05:00 made holy this day. That word rested there, it's very very interesting because we just read from Ellen White, Mike. We just read from her and it also is stated in the SDA fundamental belief that the Sabbath, the Sabbath, the holy day, right, that we find that we're going to get when we get to to the Decalogue in just a few moments. The Sabbath day as issued there in the decalogue they say was instituted right here in Genesis in creation week. And again, we have to ask the question,
• Segment 5: 05:00 - 07:30 well, where where are the texts that clearly show forth that this is an institution of the Sabbath as a noun? In other words, when you go to Exodus chapter 20, and I know Mike, you're going to probably expound on this in just a moment. When you go to Exodus chapter 20, which we're going to go to in just a few moments, and you read that word that remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, it's the noun Shabbat in the Hebrew language. >> But right here, the word or the noun Shabbat does not appear. >> It's actually the verb, >> you know, it's a verb. It's not a noun. It's not talking about the day or the holy day that's being instituted here, but rather an action that's being done on the part of God. Uh it's the word sabat which is different from Shabbat. And so it's the verb sabat which is different than Shabbat. Just bring about very clearly that God is he ceases. He's finished all of his creation. And the work that he's doing here now on the seventh day, which is not really a work, but the action that's being that's happening here, is he's finished. He's ceased. He has brought an end to all of his work. And this is not because he just completed some tiresome labor and now needs a rest like what we see in the decalogue. Um, this is a this is an this is an action on God's part to say, "I'm done. I'm finished." I I mean I don't mean to be rude. I wanted to laugh so bad because because he is arguing in favor of the text while seeking to mischaracterize the text, right? All right. You will see what I mean in a minute. First of all, before I explain and give my side of the story, let's listen to let's bring Shimoon to the channel, right? Shimoon. Shamoon. Shamoon. This argument, evening of morning argument. This is a thing that I've only been hearing in the past
• Segment 6: 05:00 - 07:30 couple years or so. I'm not used to hearing that one, but this has become popular primarily on YouTube. Listen, he's also the same guy who left Protestantism and became a Roman Catholic because he just could not find how the church fathers had any truths
• Segment 7: 07:30 - 10:00 apart from the history of Catholicism. This man had no idea. There's always been two line uh of Christianity. There's always been the Romanism line. And there was also the Protestant line that has always existed from the time Christianity was was born, should I say instituted. So now, so let's listen to part partly to the argument that he made and this is the same thing that Ryan Day is echoing and we've already talked about this in a video and I can link it on the top here for you. >> Resting from all the work that he has created, all that he purposed to make. Now guys, pay attention. Did you notice that in Genesis 1, each of the days had a morning and an evening there was morning and evening day one there was morning and evening day two. But for the Sabbath day, the seventh day, the Sabbath day, there was a beginning but no end. There was evening and morning. Evening and morning. Evening and morning for all the six days. But for the Sabbath day, seventh day, there was no evening and morning. >> That's that argument, right? The evening and morning argument. We can have a whole song on that one. >> And morning. Evening and morning. Evening and morning. >> Yeah. Okay. Evening and morning. Somebody need to make a remix of this. I love what uh brother Matt argued here against their position. I love what he just did. So, let's let's take a listen to what Weather Matt had to say. This was spot on. >> Well, hello. Hello. Welcome everyone. Um, I didn't plan on doing this. I don't I don't have any time to be doing this stuff, but um, Pastor Morgan recently released a video um, uh, talking about uh, basically giving a response to some individuals that some of you may be uh, familiar with. Ryan Day
• Segment 8: 07:30 - 10:00 >> and Mike Coburn >> uh talking about the seventh day and why doesn't the seventh day have uh the description of evening and morning and this this um this question has never really been a question like it's it's a literal non-issue but >> yeah it's it's a new thing now because I think it's it's born out of a place of
• Segment 9: 10:00 - 12:30 desperation Because I think 7th Day Adventist um men like ADL and many others have so perfectly defended the the Sabbath argument and issue on the internet. And I think these men they have to create something new to argue against the Sabbath. And I think this is a new one. That's why you don't find too many books speaking about it. Like and you're going to see what Matt does here is actually excellent. I'm like, yo, you need to save that thought because whenever you hear somebody trying to argue evening and morning um against the Sabbath like Ryan Day did, like Shimoon did, and many others have done the same, remember what Matt is saying right here. By the way, there's going to be a link in the description below to his YouTube channel. You need to go follow him if you haven't already done so. As people uh become more and more aware that we are not keeping the Sabbath as commanded, as it was intended in God's image in creation to subdue the earth and have dominion as his representatives on earth. Um people get really creative trying to wiggle themselves out of it. And this is one of those things. And so the only reason why um the the only reason why um I'm mentioning this that I I decided to take, you know, a little bit of time. I'm not going to do the three-hour thing. I know I keep saying that. Um it's because this is actually the topic that brought me on to YouTube in the first place. >> Yep. >> So um before we get into it, I'm going to give you an overview. Then I'm going to give you um uh Pastor Morgan's introductory of the video with Ryan Day. And then we're going to go into like what I can find the original uh snippets that I had uh with Miles Kettlesen and um Sam Shimoon basically
• Segment 10: 10:00 - 12:30 arguing the same nonsense. >> Yep. >> So without further ado, uh let's pull this up here. >> It's interesting. I didn't see the full video. I only saw the first 10 minutes and I was like, "Whoa, well done." You know, so I didn't even know that he introduced uh Shimoon in there and also Pastor Morgan. It's interesting. Anyway, similar line of thought. If you can see this on the screen, what I've done is I I created this slide to show that there's a direct pattern
• Segment 11: 12:30 - 15:00 that's going on in creation. So, I want to prime you for those who are listening with where we're going because what I'm about to share with you is not something you can easily look up. It's not something you can just Google. You you have to truly study either in in in in classic Hebrew understanding or the Jewish thought or or maybe even get a theology degree. Like, what I'm about to share isn't just obvious. This isn't just like a So, I'm being gentle. I'm trying to be as gentle as I can on this. >> You're doing a good job. >> But if you come on like Ryan Day, right, or Mike Colbert or Sam Shimoon, right, or Miles Kettlesen, and you pretend like Miles does this like fake uh humility thing, you pretend that you you have some level of teaching uh acumen when you actually don't. Then then then I I would expect you to know this. I would expect you to see and come to this conclusion or make this observation, but they don't. And it's not just them. >> It's basically any evangelical group who's trying to do away with the Sabbath, trying to find any nook and cranny to say, "Ah, well then the Sabbath doesn't exist." And and when you do that, you start ignoring the clear patterns laid out in the Bible that shows that God has separated things for his purpose and that he wants this separation effectively to come together into a union. >> And so this this this is a pattern throughout the entire Bible. We see Moses establishing the nation of Israel that is to be set apart from the rest of the world. But the whole point of that was for that they can come back into atonement to be at one with God. So the separation and then be coming together as one has always been the pattern from the beginning. And we see the Bible start out exactly in this way. We see that the first day we have the light and the darkness. The second day we have the
• Segment 12: 12:30 - 15:00 heaven and the earth. The third day we have the land and the sea. Right? The fourth day you have the lights and the heaven. Right? with the to divide the day and the night, right? This is the evening and morning concept, right? You couldn't really have an evening and morning until the sun was created. >> Yeah. >> Right. So, so you you these things. So, there was an evening and morning before there was an evening and morning.
• Segment 13: 15:00 - 17:30 >> Exactly. >> So, so God was establishing this pattern. He was showing the divide of what how creation was coming into being. Right. And then you finally come to the sixth day. So the the the the last and final day of work, he's making his image bearers, the people he created to represent him on earth to also create like him, right? To subdue the earth, to multiply like him. >> And on the seventh day, we see complete union, completion. A day is now a day. It is not a evening and a morning, right? It is not just man and woman. Man and woman are now flesh. You see? So this this this is the pattern we see. We see the separation of things that are coming together and then come together in full atonement at one minute with God. And that's why when the fall happens, it creates that separation again that was never intended. And now we're going through this whole thousands of years of rigma rule to finally be put back into place to be in full union again. >> Amen. >> That like that's that's the whole biblical narrative. That's it. And so when you come to the seventh day and you make an argument that it doesn't say evening and morning and you try to extrapolate some reason to get rid of the Sabbath, you miss the whole point. You miss exactly what the what the Bible's trying to tell you. The seventh day was perfect completion. We goof that up. God's going to restore us to that perfect completion someday. >> Amen. >> So it's it's not stating that there is no day anymore. Of course. >> Of course. Right. We we do know that the day continued after the seventh day. >> Amen. >> That they were put to work to subdue the earth and to multiply. >> So how is it that we are going to make the argument that the Sabbath is done
• Segment 14: 15:00 - 17:30 away with when the entire week was described six days of work and then the 70 rest. Now you are in my image. Go multiply, be fruitful, and move on. So that that's I mean that's that's the whole thing in a nutshell. M >> and it might seem obvious now that I said it, but I promise you this this this theological concept, although although I just said it and it probably like, oh yeah, no doubt, man. You're not saying anything revolutionary. >> I promise you it's not something you can easily find. >> No, you cannot. >> It's not >> you cannot it's not even in our theological um is not even found in our seminaries. Not not the way you explained it, Matt. And I'll be honest with you, take it from a man who's gone who's gone through it. Um, it's not even a thought. I have so
• Segment 15: 17:30 - 20:00 many scholarly books here about the Sabbath, the Sabbath in history, and many other things. I have some really good materials on the Sabbath. That argument, it's you're not going to find it. And reason is is because the counterargument is also new. So, I think Bible scholars didn't have time to worry about that one. This is I think largely this is a YouTube man-made argument. It's it's fairly recent. If he's if he's been around longer than that, please let me know. But I think the ones that I'm hearing, this evening and morning argument that Ryan Day is echoing, it's it's not it's not anything that any scholars in the past, you know, Bible scholars had to address and deal with. I think that's what the problem is. By the way, I did ask Ryan Day if he is still keeping the Sabbath when we had our interview and he said that uh he actually is. He is he's not rejecting the Sabbath. Take a listen. than what these are. Other denominations have these things. Some of them agree with them, but you're not going to find all six pillars in any other Christian denomination. You're not gonna find it, right? So that's that's a fact. Unless you're willing to practice this at home with your family and you just follow your conscience and find a Christian church where you think they are preaching the gospel and you still believe in the keeping of the seventh day Sabbath. Is that correct? You still believe? >> I I believe I believe in keeping the seventh day Sabbath according to the commandment. Correct. which is to rest and let others rest. >> Correct. Correct. >> And I I believe in that 100%. I believe and you still believe that's on the seventh day. You still believe that's on the seventh day on on Saturday like we call >> I believe biblically the Sabbath
• Segment 16: 17:30 - 20:00 according to scripture is on the seventh day of the week. Yes. >> So which means now you have to find a church or maybe you might have to create a church. Who knows where God is leading you in your journey. You might have to find a denomination that keeps the seventh day Sabbath and they preach the gospel in a way that you now understand it different than what the seventh ministers believe. Even though they may not uh agree with some of other of our teachings, but at least if they have those two certain elements that you will say you agree with, they have to practice. But even that can be a difficult choice. >> The man said he believed it. When I spoke to him, watching this video, it seems like he didn't anymore, but I could be wrong, right? He's probably just arguing against the Sabbath in Eda. That's it. But now I do have a question for the brethren who made this video and my question is very simple. So when God said
• Segment 17: 20:00 - 22:30 remember the Sabbath day to keep it holy, right? When we remember the to keep it holy, what is he pointing his people to as the Sabbath to remember? How can you remember something that did not exist before? If the Sabbath was not instituted in the Garden of Eden, what does God mean in Exodus 20:8 by remembering the Sabbath day to keep it holy? What else can they go back to to remember? What biblical passage could you point them back to for them to remember? Because you believe the Sabbath was instituted at the Ten Commandment. If it was instituted in Sinai, why will God say remember if it was being instituted here for the first time? Just a question, master. Just a question. So, if the Sabbath was not instituted in Eden, why did God point back to creation as a reason for keeping the Sabbath? If Eden had nothing to do with the Sabbath being instituted, what is God doing by telling his people to keep it holy and telling them he is their creator? Because he made the world in six days and rested the seventh day. Therefore, keep the seventh day holy as a sign of his creative power. How could God point to creation as a reason for keeping the Sabbath if it was never instituted in the Garden of Eden in the first place? Wait, I got another question. When Jesus says in Mark 2:27, "The Sabbath was made for men, not meant for the Sabbath," when was the Sabbath made? Was it made in a garden of Eden or Si? When was that? Now you argue, okay, God rested on the seventh day Sabbath. Okay, I hear you, man. I hear you, preacher man. Yes, God rested. God blessed it and
• Segment 18: 20:00 - 22:30 sanctified a day. I I I hear you. Now,
• Segment 19: 22:30 - 25:00 that word here is the word Shabbat. Now, I'm going to let me let me pull up my thing here so I can give you a proper interpretation. So, here it is. Is the word Shabbat. This is the action verb, the word of sabbathing. So, okay, let's get it. If God was not instituting the Sabbath, how could he have done this? So since you have to help me here because for God to rest, God having rested invested himself in that day. Could it be possibly said that's why it is the Sabbath is because God himself rested? Is by God's resting on the seventh day. Maybe that's the reason why it was instituted. You know, I'm just asking a question because creation is ended. Now, there is something to celebrate. There is a reason to have a Sabbath and there's a reason to remember the creator God who rested, who Shabbath, who instituted the seven-day Sabbath as a day to be kept holy. But you will say, "Oh, come on, brother man. Wait, wait. Okay, I'm going to give you another Bible question and I'm interested to hear how you guys respond to that. You can have your issue with the seven adventist church, but you are now fighting against the word of God. But let's keep going. For he spake in a certain place of the seventh day on this wise, and God did rest the seventh day from all his work. When did God do that? When did God do that? on Sinai or in Eden? You tell me. In this place again that they shall enter into if they shall enter into my rest, seeing that he remainth that some must enter in and they to whom it was first preached enter that then because of unbelief. Okay. He went on to say now if Jesus had given them rest then will he not afterward have spoken of another day.
• Segment 20: 22:30 - 25:00 Therefore they remain therefore a rest of the people of God. But based on what
• Segment 21: 25:00 - 27:30 factors what is the reason why the people of God are to rest? Because God rested after creation. And the word rested mean his shabbath. So because God rested, you should rest because God rested in creation. The Sabbath was instituted in creation. Therefore, the example was set by God for you to follow. That's why God can say now it is blessed. It is set apart. It is sanctified. It is now holy. Because what? Because he rested on it. You know, every time God invade a space, a location, a day or or or lapse of time, whatever it is, that time, that place, those individuals now is holy. Why? Because God is in it. He has invested his presence in it. Now, the Sabbath is a holy day. Maybe that was the institution. I don't know. I would like to hear how these brethren of mine respond to that. I can say a lot more. I can say a lot more, but I think it's best we we end this video. I'm not going to make this any longer than it needs to be. So, the evening and morning argument totally destroyed by Fisherman Corner. And again, I'm going to give you a link to his YouTube channel. You need to go and subscribe. That's my brother in Christ. That shimon argument, you you keep playing with the Sabbath, you end up becoming a Roman Catholic. Okay. And yes, that was a joke. That was a joke. Somebody, that was a joke. You keep messing with God's Sabbath if it's not good. You you you will end up going down down down. And I would say, "My brother Ryan Day, be careful what you do with God's Day. You have your issue with the 7 minutes church. You don't like all these different things." I totally understand. I have my issues, too. And I publicly say some of these things on this platform. But my brother, be careful how you mess with God's biblical truth. Basic truth that cannot be
• Segment 22: 25:00 - 27:30 refuted. Like Sabbath, be very careful with that. I will play with that too much. Anyway, that's my thought on that. God bless you all. If it's Sabbath for you guys at the time you're watching this video, happy Sabbath. Yes, it was instituted in the Garden of Eden. Don't let them fool you.
• Segment 23: 27:30 - 30:00 Until next time, have a good one. Bye.