I hate this disgusting piece of Star Wars lore.

Summary

In this video, Justin from EckhartsLadder delves into a controversial and disturbing piece of Star Wars Legends lore, which he does not recommend for children or parents watching with kids. The lore involves characters from the Dark Forces series, particularly focusing on Lord Shadow Spawn (Cronal) and his daughter, Saras. The narrative takes a dark turn as it describes Cronal's heinous act towards his daughter, which is starkly out of line with the rest of the Star Wars universe, according to Justin. He argues that such content is unnecessary and doesn't fit the tone of Star Wars, which should remain a space fantasy rather than delving into unnecessarily grim areas.

Highlights

• Justin discusses mature content in Star Wars Legends that's not kid-friendly. 🚫
• Focuses on a character named Cronal and his dark actions towards his daughter, Saras. 🌌
• Critiques the lore for being unnecessarily dark and out of place in the Star Wars universe. ⚡

Key Takeaways

• Star Wars Legends includes some disturbing content not suitable for all audiences. 🛑
• The lore discussed involves heinous acts not in line with Star Wars' usual tone. ⚔️
• It's important for Star Wars to maintain its identity as space fantasy, not lean towards unnecessary edginess. 🚀

Overview

In today's video, Justin from EckhartsLadder takes us on a dive into the darker side of Star Wars Legends lore, advising viewers upfront that the content might not be suitable for younger audiences. He introduces us to the Dark Forces series, highlighting key characters like Kyle Katarn and dives into the story of Lord Shadow Spawn, also known as Cronal, whose narrative veers into particularly disturbing territory.

The video's main focus is on Cronal's actions as a darksider from the planet Rand, where he develops several dark force abilities. Justin critiques a specific piece of lore where Cronal inflicts unimaginable harm on his daughter, Saras, aligning with other dark-side prophets in acts that are shockingly out of place in the Star Wars universe. Justin argues that such storylines are more about edginess without adding depth.

Justin expresses his discomfort with the direction of this storyline, asserting it doesn't match the Star Wars essence of being primarily a space fantasy with heroic undertones. He believes that while exploring darker themes can be intriguing, they should not break away from the core identity of the universe. He ends by inviting viewers to share their opinions, reinforcing his stance that not all darkness is necessary to tell a compelling Star Wars story.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction and Content Warning In the video introduction, Justin provides a content warning as the content deviates from his usual family-friendly material. He advises that his typical audience, which includes children and parents watching with their kids, may not find this video suitable. The discussion will delve into elements from Star Wars Legends, which are considerably different from the mainstream Star Wars narrative.
• 00:30 - 01:00: Dark Forces Series and Kyle Katarn The chapter explores the Dark Forces series, a science fantasy franchise that delves into darker themes like murder, torture, and genocide, pushing the boundaries of typical lines not often crossed in such narratives. It centers on the character Kyle Katarn, who fights the Empire and dark troopers. In the second game of the series, titled 'Jedi Knight', Kyle Katarn's journey focuses on his becoming a Jedi Knight.
• 01:00 - 01:30: Introduction of Sariss and A New Hope Connection The chapter introduces a character named Sariss, who is one of the Dark Jedi facing off against Jerick and his group. Sariss is highlighted in the game's FMV cutscenes. She has a connection to 'A New Hope' where she was previously known as the prophetess. The narrator expresses a reluctance towards discussing darker themes.
• 02:00 - 02:30: Imperial Warlords Articles Overview This chapter discusses the importance of maintaining the spirit and tone of a fictional universe when managing its lore. It highlights how different franchises like Warhammer, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, and Game of Thrones have unique limits to what is considered acceptable within their narratives. The transcript criticizes content created solely for shock value, emphasizing that creativity should be aligned with the universe's established ethos.
• 02:30 - 03:30: Lord Shadow Spawn and Cronal's Background The chapter delves into a series of articles from StarWars.com titled 'Imperial Warlords: The Spoils of An Empire.' These articles are hailed for their intriguing connections amongst various parts of the expanded universe, linking previously unrelated elements. They also provide a platform for Abel Pena, a notable Star Wars author known for his short stories and RPG contributions, to weave these elements together more coherently.
• 03:30 - 04:30: Cronal's Nihilism and Atrocities The chapter titled 'Cronal's Nihilism and Atrocities' introduces the character Lord Shadow Spawn, who is later revealed to be a darksider named Cronal. The narrative delves into Cronal's history and various identities, including Shadow Spawn and Black Hole, the latter of which was first introduced in old Star Wars newspaper comics. The chapter sets the stage for exploring Cronal's nihilistic beliefs and the atrocities he committed across the universe, posing a significant threat to other characters and setting up future conflicts.
• 04:30 - 05:00: Criticism of the Lore's Dark Themes This chapter delves into the dark themes entrenched within the lore, focusing on the character Cronyl. It describes his violent and unsettling origins, being ripped from his mother's chest at birth and raised by warlocks on the planet Rand. Immersed in a culture of darkness, Cronyl was trained to worship dark forces, honing strange abilities. Among these was the creation of 'dark shar,' a weapon formed from sheer force power. One of his most valued abilities was 'dark sight,' which allowed him to foresee potential future paths. The chapter critically examines these elements, likely discussing the ethical and narrative implications of such dark themes in storytelling.
• 05:00 - 06:00: Discussion on Sexual Assault in Star Wars Universe The chapter discusses themes of destruction and annihilation in the Star Wars universe, particularly focusing on the sorcerers of Tund who worship destruction. The discussion touches on how this relates to the character known as 'Black Hole.' It highlights the belief in transcending the dualistic classification of the Force into light and dark sides, suggesting a leaning towards entropy as a natural concept.
• 06:00 - 08:00: Conclusion and Opinion on Edgy Content in Star Wars The chapter discusses the character Cron, who appears to have clear dark side tendencies. Cron eventually joins a peculiar group known as the prophets of the dark side, which has been featured in several of the author's videos. On the planet Drummond Cassa, Cron fathered a child named Saras the Dark Jedi, notable from the Jedi Knight series. The narrative acknowledges an uncomfortable aspect of the storyline, particularly involving Cron's activities while on Drummond Cassa.

I hate this disgusting piece of Star Wars lore. Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 hey guys this is Justin hope everyone is having a great day today's video is going to be a little bit different most of my content I make so it can be watched by children it can be watched by people with their families i've got kids they'll probably watch some of my videos in the future this one however I do not recommend for children nor for parents to watch with their kids because we're going over some stuff from Star Wars Legends which is I'll say radically out of line with most of what we get in the rest of Star Wars which essentially
• 00:30 - 01:00 operates as a science fantasy series yes there are murders there's torture genocide even but there are definitely certain lines which usually are not crossed but which will be in the bit of lore we're discussing today so just keep that in mind either way let's travel back to the Dark Forces series you know the ones of course Kyle Qatar fighting the Empire dark troopers and in the second game in the series Jedi Knight becoming a Jedi Knight hence the title
• 01:00 - 01:30 and facing off against Jerick and his cadre of dark Jedi one of these dark Jedi is named Saras you can see her here in the very fun FMV cutscenes used in the game and there's actually lore which gives her an appearance in A New Hope as a character previously known as the prophetess all right and this takes us to the part I honestly have avoided talking about for pretty much the entire time I've run this channel you know I don't like edgginess or darkness for
• 01:30 - 02:00 darkness's sake it's fun talking about disturbing content when it's creative Star Weirds the Nal Nal but I don't find content which aims to shock more than anything else particularly interesting and I really only talk about this because I think it's an important lesson in managing lore so that it's an inke keeping with the spirit and tone of the universe what you can get away with in Warhammer is different than Star Wars is different than Lord of the Rings is different than Game of Thrones that should go without saying all right that
• 02:00 - 02:30 takes us to a series of articles which appeared on star wars.com known as Imperial Warlords the spoilers of an empire i've read from these articles several several times overall they're very interesting they make lots of connections between disperate aspects of the expanded universe tying things together which previously were not connected and the articles also certainly served as a vehicle for Abel Pena the Star Wars author behind many short stories and RPGs to connect little
• 02:30 - 03:00 bits of the universe which he had tried to in the past and in part three we get a look at Lord Shadow Spawn let's go over the backstory and we'll get to the bit in a minute pawns so the article explains that Lord Shadow Spawn was in fact a darksider known as Cronal we've talked about Cronal on the channel before he has various identities including Shadow Spawn but also Black Hole a character first introduced in the old Star Wars newspaper comics it's
• 03:00 - 03:30 explained that Cronyl was and I quote ripped from his mother's chest shortly after his birth and reached adulthood among the frightening warlocks of the planet Rand in the unknown regions he was raised worshiping the way of the dark and training with the sorcerers of Rand developed strange abilities including dark shar which essentially generates a weapon out of pure force power the article explains that his most cherished ability was dark sight the capacity to foresee viable futures and
• 03:30 - 04:00 bring about the one which most aligned with maximum annihilation as worshiping destruction generally was a key aspect of the sorcerers of toune and their teaching you probably start to see where he gets the name black hole the article continues stating that he believed he transcended the dualistic classification of the force into light and dark side so I mean come on wanting destruction moving everything towards destruction i guess you could argue entropy is natural
• 04:00 - 04:30 but seems pretty clearly dark side and in fact he would go on to join the prophets of the dark side a very strange group who we've seen pop up in a few of my videos anyway alongside the prophets of the dark side on Drummond CS Cron would ultimately father a child and that child would be Saras the dark Jedi from the Jedi Knight series and this is where we get well the gross bit so while on Drummond cost Cronal was esoteric force
• 04:30 - 05:00 abilities angie flowwalking for example something Jason Solo would do and in fact his own teachings would drive some of the other prophets insane including one known as Merilli anyway the article goes on to say and I quote "Cronel spared his own daughter Saras the horror of the mind only to scar her far more deeply born of his trust with a fellow prophet hess Cronal shamefully deemed his offspring's existence a tribute to creation and hence a transgression against the nihilism of the dark thus he
• 05:00 - 05:30 disavowed his daughter in the most heinous way possible allowing not only the other prophets of the dark side to freely engage her in Congress but partaking in this revulsion himself all the better to venerate the way of the dark so what the author is saying here because some of you may not be familiar with the language is that he offered up his daughter to be raped by the other prophets of the dark side something he also did himself now my main problem with this is obvious in that well for
• 05:30 - 06:00 one it's disgusting but it's also just not in line with the rest of the universe this entire article and I do usually like Abel's work is clearly him essentially making fanfiction he's connecting all these things he's wanted to connect or has connected in the past he goes out of his way to tie in as many cool Star Wars Legends things like flow walking like the sorcerers of Rand then to essentially make it edgy because nothing else in the universe is like
• 06:00 - 06:30 this he makes it so a father rapes his daughter and allows other grown adults to do so as well the implication to me is also that she was if not a very young child at least a child during this situation given the fact that he sees her creation itself as a transgression against the nihilism of the dark which itself doesn't make sense he's supposed to worship impermanence but there's nothing more temporary than a human life
• 06:30 - 07:00 it's just it's so stupid and to have this thrown in after his fanfiction about dark side force weapons essentially it's cheesy there are a few other Star Wars stories which have tried to handle rape or sexual assault they never do so very well most famously it was part of the backstory of Boba Fett back in the day there are a few other occasions as well often with Twilights too and having a force to be dancer slave species is also yeah not the best
• 07:00 - 07:30 thing the universe has ever done you can look into the character of Al Lima Rar for more on that and again in a universe which has a set tone it's just a very cheap and gross way to try to make your character evil without putting the leg work in really I don't know i just don't like it i don't like the end of all the better to venerate the way of the dark as if that's a way to talk about childhood incestual assault and yeah if I were the editor of this article I would not have allowed this to go online i think it's somewhat of a black mark
• 07:30 - 08:00 against an otherwise pretty cool series of articles star Wars authors have to be careful they have to know what the universe is maybe there's a way to tackle the subject matter properly i'm going to argue this isn't it it's also why there's a difference between blowing up the Death Star and basically the Jedi being cleansed with children being killed order 66 works because it's treated seriously not nudged in between and I'm not joking cronal having cool dark side black sword magic and also him
• 08:00 - 08:30 making Sith robots called Mechaduru anyway that's my thought i'm sure some of you will disagree with me some of you think the universe should be edgy i don't i think Star Wars essentially is as mentioned space fantasy and it needs to be remembered again my opinion let me know yours respectfully down below and see you guys next time heat heat [Music]
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