The downfall of Firefox's reputation
Mozilla lost touch with reality; how becoming rich through failure stunts mental & emotional growth
Estimated read time: 1:20
Summary
In this engaging video, Louis Rossmann discusses how Mozilla, once a tech giant championing privacy, lost its way by becoming overly focused on financial gains rather than its core mission. Rossmann explains how Mozilla's reputation took a hit due to poorly communicated terms of service changes, which were perceived as breaches of user trust. Establishing partnerships with companies like Google for financial stability led Mozilla away from its fundamental principles, resulting in a company that remains financially comfortable but out of touch with its users. As a solution, Rossmann suggests using alternatives like LibreWolf for those concerned about privacy. The video highlights the broader issue of how financial security can lead to organizational stagnation, using Mozilla as a cautionary tale.
Highlights
- Mozilla lost its way by mishandling terms of service changes. 🔍
- LibreWolf is a recommended alternative to Firefox for privacy. 🦊
- Mozilla’s revenue strategy involves lucrative but controversial partnerships. 💼
- Financial comfort can atrophy an organization's drive and innovation. 😴
- Poor communication has critically damaged Mozilla's user trust. 📉
Key Takeaways
- Mozilla's focus on financial stability led to a reputation crisis, as changes to terms of service upset users. 🔄
- Partnerships with search engines like Google have blurred Mozilla's commitment to privacy. 🔍
- Rossmann advises using LibreWolf as a browser alternative for privacy-conscious users. 🦊
- Mozilla's comfortable financial position has made it complacent and out of touch with user needs. 💸
- The video underscores the risk of stagnation when organizations receive financial comfort without accountability. 💡
Overview
Mozilla, once a beacon of online privacy, has fallen into a reputation crisis due to a combination of poor communication and questionable financial partnerships. Louis Rossmann explains how changes to Firefox's terms of service were handled with little regard for user trust, causing backlash and driving users toward more privacy-focused alternatives like LibreWolf.
In a deeper exploration, Rossmann points out that Mozilla's partnership with Google, while financially lucrative, contradicts its mission of privacy. This partnership combined with poorly conveyed terms of service updates left users confused and betrayed, showcasing how financial endeavors overshadowed Mozilla's original intentions.
Ultimately, Rossmann draws a parallel between Mozilla’s complacency and the broader dangers of financial security leading to stagnation. With comfortable executive salaries and a steady revenue stream, Mozilla lacks the incentive to innovate or align closely with user needs, serving as a cautionary tale of how financial stability can stunt growth and responsiveness.
Chapters
- 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction: Trusting Mozilla Firefox The chapter "Introduction: Trusting Mozilla Firefox" discusses whether users should trust Mozilla Firefox. It presents the argument that focusing on trusting Firefox might be the wrong question. Instead, it suggests installing LibreWolf, an open-source fork of Firefox. LibreWolf comes pre-configured without telemetry, Pocket, or sponsored ads, offering a more privacy-focused browsing experience without the need for manual configuration. Users can easily import their existing bookmarks into LibreWolf.
- 00:30 - 01:00: Overview of Libra Wolf and its Benefits This chapter discusses the web browser Libra Wolf, highlighting its benefits and advantages. Despite concerns or changes, the interface remains familiar to users, maintaining its previous look and feel while enhancing privacy and security. The modifications made to Libra Wolf focus on these aspects, making it an ideal choice for those seeking a seamless experience without the technical hassles of managing privacy and security settings individually. The chapter suggests that the issue with Mozilla, although often criticized, is not particularly significant in this context.
- 01:00 - 03:00: Critique on Mozilla's Communication and Policy Changes The chapter discusses Mozilla's communication strategies and policy alterations. It criticizes the announcement approach and terms of use changes that grant Mozilla extensive rights. The new terms permit Mozilla to process user data for Firefox operations and navigation aids, granting them a broad, non-exclusive, global license to use user-provided information for enhancing online interaction.
- 03:00 - 09:00: Understanding the California Consumer Privacy Act and Its Implications The chapter delves into the intricacies of the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and its broader implications. It criticizes certain privacy policies, particularly citing Firefox, for being overly broad and potentially detrimental to a company's reputation. The discussion reflects on how companies, in an attempt to comply with the CCPA, may end up implementing measures that are counterproductive. Furthermore, the narrative highlights how updates to privacy terms sometimes exacerbate public frustration, as noted in the updates following initial policy releases.
- 09:00 - 15:00: Mozilla's Potential Legal Risks and PR Missteps In this chapter, the speaker addresses some confusion about Mozilla's licensing language and aims to clarify it. A comparison is made to a scene from Game of Thrones, implying that, like King Joffrey's stubbornness, there is a misunderstanding or miscommunication about the message being conveyed. Additionally, the chapter highlights a concern over Mozilla's removal of their 'we don't sell your data' promise, suggesting potential legal risks and public relations issues for the company.
- 15:00 - 24:00: Impact of Financial Decisions and Company Culture on Mozilla The chapter discusses the impact of financial decisions and company culture on Mozilla, highlighting a significant PR issue. It mentions that Mozilla's communication team's actions were so controversial that people flocked to archive.org to see the previous version of Mozilla's website, causing archive.org to crash. This incident exemplifies the severe backlash Mozilla faced, indicating a misstep in their public relations and possibly reflecting deeper issues within the company's culture and decision-making processes.
- 24:00 - 26:00: Conclusion: The Dangers of Financial Complacency In the final chapter titled 'Conclusion: The Dangers of Financial Complacency', the overall theme stresses the risks associated with becoming too comfortable in financial matters. The script starts with a discussion about the cost and safety of Firefox, highlighting that it is free to use without hidden charges, and emphasizes its safety features like blocking trackers and protecting private information. This is likely an analogy or illustrative segue into the broader topic of the text. Essentially, it warns of the ignored threats lurking in everyday transactions and digital activities, and how complacency might expose individuals to hidden dangers, reinforcing that staying informed and vigilant is key to financial security.
Mozilla lost touch with reality; how becoming rich through failure stunts mental & emotional growth Transcription
- 00:00 - 00:30 can you and should you trust Mozilla Firefox tldr for people who don't want to watch the whole video who just saw the title it's the wrong question don't care about any of this just install Libra wolf install this and just forget that this entire thing happened Libra wolf is an open- Source Fork of Firefox that removes all of the Telemetry pocket the sponsored ad crap so instead of having to go through your settings and manually Harden Firefox and opt out of all this crap and make sure it's not running with Libra wolf it's just like that by default you can import your bookmarks very easily into it all of
- 00:30 - 01:00 your settings are going to look identical to the way they did before the web browser looks the way it did before it loads the way it did before because for the most part it's the same browser they just do some modifications for privacy and security to get rid of that stuff so if you're not Savvy and you don't want to read through all this drama and figure out what what's going on install this and be happy and you'll never have to worry about this again so what do I think of what happened what did happen and is is this a big deal in my opinion this is something of a nothing Burger before you all kill me Mozilla is is absolutely horrific at
- 01:00 - 01:30 communication and they should be raked over the calls for how they made their announcement they put into their terms of use and I quote you give Mozilla All rights necessary to operate Firefox including processing data as we described in the Firefox privacy notice as well as acting on your behalf to help you navigate the internet when you upload or input information through Firefox you hereby grant us a non-exclusive royalty free worldwide license to use that information to help you navigate experience and interact with online content as you indicate with
- 01:30 - 02:00 your use of Firefox so this is obviously one of the stupidest possible things that you could ever write and it is incredibly overly Broad and it's it's one of these areas where in trying to hedge their bets to be in compliance with the California consumer Privacy Act which I've read a lot of today they wound up putting the stupidest thing on there possible and shooting them themselves in the foot reputationally they followed up on this by updating the page to say and I quote this is the standard thing that drives me insan
- 02:00 - 02:30 we've seen a little confusion about the language regarding licenses so you want to clear that up you ever any of you watch Game of Thrones remember that episode where Tywin Lannister is looking at like the the kid King Joffrey and he's like the king is tired and then Joffrey goes I'm not tired I'm not confused I read what you posted and it was horrible they also removed we don't sell your data promise
- 02:30 - 03:00 from their FAQ so yeah this is a this is from uh wii. rossan group.com I'm loading it here because archive.org is literally crashed the way that you know by the way that you have screwed up from a PR standpoint is when so many people are going to archive.org to figure out what your website used to look like before you changed it that you you've crashed archive.org I can load other sites on archive.org but I can't load mozilla.org on archive.org you crashed archive.org Mozilla communication team like good on
- 03:00 - 03:30 you and back to this so let's here's what it used to say is Firefox free yep the Firefox browser is free super free actually no hidden costs or anything you don't pay to use it is Firefox safe not only is it safe but it helps keep your private information safe the Firefox browser also blocks known thirdparty trackers social media tractors crypto Miners and fingerprinters from collecting your data wait a second oh my god did whoever did this put the before on the right and
- 03:30 - 04:00 the after on the left are you insane sir whoever contributed to the Wei and God bless you for contributing to the Wei but did you seriously put the after on the left and the before on the right bro are you you [ __ ] animal okay back to this here's the way it used to look yep the Firefox browser is free super
- 04:00 - 04:30 free actually no hidden cost you don't pay anything to use it and we don't sell your personal data does Firefox sell your personal data nope never have never will and we protect you from many of the advertisers who do Firefox products are designed to protect your privacy that's a promise and then on the new page that's on the left they took away the references to not selling personal data
- 04:30 - 05:00 that's really bad PR if you don't explain it very very well and they did a very very poor job of doing that also the changes went up before users were notified this went up on February 25th as a change somebody asked about this on the Forum on the 26th and this article that they created was on the 26th further it says that by using Firefox that you are accepting these terms of use so many of you similar to with LG refrigerators when you're signing for something with without seeing the terms
- 05:00 - 05:30 cuz they threw away the Box you were technically agreeing to a terms of use that you had never seen that you were never informed of because well 2025 and this is also horrible timing because Google is moving over to manifest V3 they are really crippling ad blockers in Chrome so this would be a great time if Mozilla had their head screwed on properly to think oh wow let's do a giant PR Blitz Brave browser back when ad block was not working properly or certain ad blockers were being broken by YouTube decided to do an
- 05:30 - 06:00 ad campaign they actually paid YouTube to do ads and it said block this ad Brave browser whether or not you like or hate Brendan ier Brave that that's the way you do it you go to a website that's filled with ads and you pay to put an ad on the screen that says block this ad here's my website where your the browser that's advertised on the website is an open source browser that comes with the ad blocker built in that works on that website when everybody else is done Firefox has had such an opportunity
- 06:00 - 06:30 here to kick Chrome in the balls and instead they managed to grab defeat from the jaws of Victory and somehow manag to [ __ ] up their reputation worse than Chrome has in the eyes of many people when Chrome is the one that removed ad block and Firefox is the one that didn't it's just it's it's so incredibly painful seeing what open source projects do to themselves in so many instances and I've documented some of them on this channel it's just gun foot constantly and sometimes other organs as well so
- 06:30 - 07:00 after all of this Mozilla updated the terms of use again the whole we've seen a little confusion about the language regarding licenses I'm not confused so we want to clear that up we need a license to allow us to make some of the basic functionality of Firefox possible without it we couldn't use information typed in a Firefox for example it does not give us ownership of your data or the right to use it for anything other than what is described in the Privacy notice you give Mozilla the rights necessary to operate Firefox this includes processing your data as we described in the Firefox privacy notice
- 07:00 - 07:30 it also includes a non-exclusive royalty-free worldwide license for the purpose of doing as you request with the content you input into Firefox this does not give Mozilla any ownership in that content why couldn't you write that in the beginning let's talk about the California consumer privacy act because it's necessary to get into that to understand what would cause a company like Mozilla to get rid of we will never sell your data on their website for you and I when we think of selling personal data within the confines of a web browser you would think it's something like Lou Rossman went to pornhub.com
- 07:30 - 08:00 with a VPN because he lives in Texas and tried to search for some deep fake AI generated Tory Amos lookalike porn or some whatever the hell whatever sick [ __ ] that you may be into and that they have the ability to sell that information so that somebody else pays 50 cents and realizes that I was looking for Tori Amos de Fay porn that's concerning however when you read the California consumer Privacy Act you'll realize that what you think selling data means and what others think selling data means are very different things when you
- 08:00 - 08:30 originally read mozilla's article it really does sound like some horribly gaslighting thing over here where they're talking about selling data it says Mozilla doesn't sell data about you in the way most people think about selling data that sounds like a copout it sounds like they're hiding something in their gaslighting you and very often you'd be right to think that because that's what companies do nowadays let's read what it is the California consumer Privacy Act to finds as selling data sell selling sell sold means selling renting releasing disclosing
- 08:30 - 09:00 disseminating making available transferring or otherwise communicating orally in writing or by electronic or other means a consumer's personal information by the business to another business or a third party for monetary or other valuable consideration so when you think about what it says over there making available or transferring information from you to another business not even in exchange for money but for valuable consideration some of their existing business practices could have potentially legally qualified as as selling data for instance their search
- 09:00 - 09:30 engine partnership with Google and so on and so forth mozilla's largest revenue Source comes from deals with search engines like Google which pay Mozilla to be firefox's default search provider these deals involve sending search query data to search Partners under the CCPA if Mozilla transmitted search data in exchange for financial compensation this could be classified as sale of data this is a practice that Mozilla has already been openly taking paron so for a very very long period of time Mozilla has been getting paid by Google to be the default search engine in Firefox and
- 09:30 - 10:00 when they're transmitting your search query to Google and it has that little referrer that says Firefox even if this data is anonymized the way that the California consumer protection act is phrased and the way that this is written they could technically have done something wrong here even if they did not sell that piece of data to them if they're getting paid in another way or they're receiving other valuable consideration they don't even have to be getting paid for the data it could just be considered maybe this improves our business relationship so usually in a lot of these laws there'll be a definition SE and over here valuable consideration
- 10:00 - 10:30 like what is that is valuable consideration money has changed hands is valuable consideration you've I don't know we've let me [ __ ] your wife like really what what what does that mean how Mozilla sponsored ads work Mozilla monetizes Firefox through advertising programs pocket sponsored stories Mozilla owns pocket which provides content recommendations one day I turned on Firefox after installing it new and I started to see these news stories show up on my screen and I'm just thinking I didn't ask for this where the [ __ ] did
- 10:30 - 11:00 this come from go away and that's one of the ways that they make money Mozilla shares aggregated data with ad platforms such as adzerk so advertisers can track engagement sponsored shortcuts Mozilla displays paid website shortcuts on the new tab page Mozilla gets paid per click user click and routes click data through a Mozilla owned proxy service sponsored suggestions and search Mozilla processes search queries and shares deidentified interaction data with Partners including search engines and networks Mozilla says all data shared with advertisers is anonymous deaggregated and deidentified before
- 11:00 - 11:30 being disclosed and when you take a look at their privacy policy Mozilla collects Technical and interaction data such as the position size views and clicks on new tab content or ads to understand how people are interacting with our content and to personalize future content including sponsored content this data may be shared with our advertising Partners on a deidentified or aggregated basis now if we take a look on archive.org you'll see that something similar to this was posted a long time ago this is not new this is from July 16
- 11:30 - 12:00 2024 and the same page we may recommend content to you based on your browsing history language and Country location the process of deciding which stories you should see based on your browsing history happens locally in your copy of Firefox and Mozilla does not receive a copy of your browsing history Mozilla does receive aggregated data about the recommendations you see and click we also share aggregated data about the sponsored content you see and click with our thirdparty ad platform keville so advertisers can see how many people click on their articles this aggregated data does not identify you personally
- 12:00 - 12:30 when you read through this page even if you archive.org it this is not something new how this relates to milla's privacy policy milla's privacy policy says that user data is only shattered in aggregated or deidentified form the Firefox privacy notice also confirms Mozilla processes interaction data such as ad clicks and shares deidentified information with partners partners cannot associate these interactions with an individual user in some instances when ads are enabled on a new tab additional browsing data may also be processed locally on your device to measure the effectiveness of these ads such data will only be shared Mozilla and/or advertising Partners VI our
- 12:30 - 13:00 privacy preserving Technologies on an aggregated and/or deidentified basis there we go archive.org once I got it to work this is from July of 2024 we may recommend content to you based on your browsing history language and Country location the process of deciding which stories you should see based on your browsing history happens locally in your copy of Firefox and Mozilla doesn't receive a copy of your browsing history Mozilla does receive aggregated data about the recommendations you see and click we also share aggregated data about the sponsored content you see and click with our third party ad platform Kev so advertisers can see how many
- 13:00 - 13:30 people click on their articles this aggregated data does not identify you personally I'm not a big fan of any of this which is why I would prefer to use something like Libra wolf than Firefox because when I get home from a busy day of work my idea of fun is just not combing through my browser preferences to figure out where any of these items are hidden and ensure that I'm opted out of them rather than opt in that's not what I find fun the point I'm trying to get across here is that it's not like they just started putting sponsored search results or recommended personalized news or anything like like that in Firefox yesterday this has been
- 13:30 - 14:00 going on for a very very long period of time and the stuff that's been in their terms for this very long period of time could potentially get them [ __ ] in the ass by the CCPA based on how somebody may choose to interpret this so mozilla's ad system does not clearly violate the CCPA but it exists in a gray area because of the valuable consideration Clause Mozilla earns money from clicks on sponsored shortcuts which may be considered a sale under the CCPA if user data has value lack of a clear do not sell option the CCPA a requires an explicit do not sell my data button
- 14:00 - 14:30 but Mozilla bundles opt out settings under Technical and interaction data when Mozilla support page says you can opt out of having your data process for personalization or advertising purposes by turning off Technical and interaction data on desktop and mobile at any given time Mozilla did not have a do not sell my data option inside the browser because they did not consider this a sale of data what they would consider a sale of data is I know this person's name is Lewis Rossman and if anybody wants to figure out what type of porn he watches give us a dollar potential reidentification of dataa CCPA
- 14:30 - 15:00 states that anonymized data can still be personal information if it can be linked to a user while Mula tells ad users that advertisers cannot directly identify users Regulators May argue that user interactions still hold monetary value which could require Mozilla to revise its privacy policy for full compliance so even if they can't figure out who I am because it's been anonymized that doesn't matter because we're dealing with this term other valuable consideration Mozilla Sudden Change to his terms of Ed policy can be viewed as
- 15:00 - 15:30 Hedges to mozilla's Legal risks and exposure under the CCPA legal definitions of selling my data abroad as noted above the ccpa's definition encompasses many data sharing practices that may not align with common understanding of selling data even if Mozilla was not directly selling user data its sech Partnerships Telemetry data sharing and sponsored content could have been interpreted as data sales if Mozilla received any Financial benefit from them all of which were actions that Mozilla had already been transparent and up front about Mozilla search engine deals could also be considered data sales as mentioned earlier these Partnerships could legally qualify as
- 15:30 - 16:00 data sales under the CCPA definition despite being an existing part of mozilla's business model that consumers are already aware of sponsored content in firefox's new tab page involves data exchange Mozilla displays sponsored content and adds on the Firefox new tab page which may involve user interaction data being shared with advertisers even if the data is anonymized the CCPA considers certain types of aggregated data as personal information if it can be linked back to users while the new terms of use does not confirm that mosela intends to sell user data and puts its current practices in line with
- 16:00 - 16:30 the CCPA it no longer explicitly prohibits it leaving open the option for future monetization which again you know is one of the reasons that if any of this perturbs you use Liber wolf users were not notified before the terms of used changes took effect Mozilla announced the terms on February 26th but they had already taken effect by February 25th very very bad lack of clarity on why Mozilla needs a license to user input users question why Mozilla needed licensing rights over user input when browsers have worked for over 25 years without these terms concerns likely based on misinterpretation Mozilla will log and track all user
- 16:30 - 17:00 browsing data some users assume the terms of use granted Mozilla unlimited access to browsing history however mozilla's privacy policy still states that it does not store user browser history or personal data Beyond necessary Telemetry I think that a good portion of the outrage is a nothing Burger I would say the 50% outrage that is correct is how [ __ ] stupid they are at communicating all of this it is unacceptable that an organization that brings in tens of millions of dollars that has a chief executive that makes over 6 million that has people in the nonprofit making salaries of over
- 17:00 - 17:30 $600,000 a year does not have a PR team that has half a brain cell to rub together and say how to write this that's unacceptable but the idea that Mozilla is going out there and selling your data I mean their own privacy policy as it is written is not going to allow them to do that and even if you look at their privacy policy and you don't believe any of it because they're such idiots and how they communicated this which I don't blame you for you can go over and use Liber wolf and you'll be fine in my opinion Money for Nothing destroyed Mozilla money is why this happened and it's not
- 17:30 - 18:00 in the way that you may think it's not this thing where Mozilla is greedy so they want to take all your data and sell it to make more money that's not what it's about it's something much simpler than that it's the way money atrophies you and in some cases whether it's individuals or companies having a lot of money could be one of the worst things that ever happens to you if you're an astronaut and you used to be a powerlifter going to space could be one of the worst things that happens to you even if you have your resistance bands and everything else your bone density is going to go down you're going to lose a lot of MUSC muscle when you come back to earth because you didn't have the force
- 18:00 - 18:30 of gravity and you weren't working against gravity all the time and the same thing happens when people or organizations get paid a lot of money regardless of whether they do work people are going to hang around with you even if you say messed up [ __ ] you could tell jokes that are not funny and people are going to laugh at them if you have products or services that suck or you don't take what you're doing fully seriously you have the ability to screw up and not self-improve at all if you have a lot of money because you're going to make money anyway you don't have that that that driving
- 18:30 - 19:00 force behind you of if I don't do the right thing if I don't shape up I'm going to be poor and the same thing happens to a company that happens to a human being is that your muscles for these things become atrophied your public relations muscles become atrophied your ability to write a blog post or just have your hand on the pulse of what's going on with your users gets atrophy so take a look at how Mozilla makes their money their money is made through royalties yeah let's say they just deleted subscription and advertising Revenue just let say they deleted this all together nobody gives a
- 19:00 - 19:30 [ __ ] people like you or I donating or $5 to Mozilla because we like their mission is not how they make their money they're getting their money by allowing Google to be the default search engine in their browser in exchange for a bag of cash Google's not doing this because they think that they're going to make so much more money if Firefox refers users to them Google sadly I hate admitting this every other search engine I use like they just suck they suck and frankly too few users use Firefox for that's a prob be worth it to them Google is doing this
- 19:30 - 20:00 to keep Firefox alive it's insurance they make $70 billion a year in net profit Google wants to protect that by not being seen as a monopoly in either the EU or the United States so taking 0.2 or. 3% of Google's net profit and using that to keep Mozilla alive is a great thing to do because they could say look see that that browser over the look look they use a totally different engine and they're a different company altogether and their entire business model is not selling data and privacy and they don't even like us and they're still around so we're not a monopoly that's important to Google they
- 20:00 - 20:30 don't want their $70 billion net profit business getting [ __ ] with so they're going to keep giving a Firefox regardless of what Firefox does Mozilla doesn't have to worry about this at all now let's say that the gravy train ended let's say that Google decided tomorrow you know what [ __ ] it the United States has not had consumer protection for what the last 10 years now why do we even care about this the gravy train would still continue because Mozilla has made so much money at this point that they could simply keep going just based on the investment in income on their current assets when you take a look at
- 20:30 - 21:00 their form 990 it says over here for 2022 investment income was $20 million for 2023 investment income was $37 million $37 million off of Investments and when you take a look at their total revenue their total revenue for 2023 was 64 million so of the $64 million they made in Revenue 37 million was simply by being a glorified mutual
- 21:00 - 21:30 fund they've made enough money that the simply just the dividends and interest on their existing money will provide them with quite a bit and the people that have been working there are used to this by now if we scroll down on this a little bit you'll get to see what the executive compensation at mosil is they do not have a culture at that company in my opinion of having to perform well in order to get paid Mitchell Baker is the chair she used to make 2.4 million a year now she's making 6.2 million a year the executive director of this nonprofit
- 21:30 - 22:00 Mak $661,000 a year do you know what repair preservation group pays me nothing nothing because it's a [ __ ] nonprofit and even if it was going to pay me something for my performance for me to do like really be motivated to do a good job Lobby more and get bills passed fine I pay myself like 80 to 120k not [ __ ] 661 th000 if you're running a for-profit business by all means make as much money as you want a nonprofit director getting 661 what did Mitchell Baker do to get $6.2 million [ __ ]
- 22:00 - 22:30 dollar like what what code have you written that's revolutionized Firefox what have you done to get the market share to go back to where it was even in 2013 their pay continues to go up regardless of horrible horrible performance and not just that forget about the performance aspect of it their pay as a percentage of Revenue is more than Google or apples when you take a look at how Google pays their Executives s Bai made $8 million in 2023 on revenue of $37 billion that's Z 0.29% of their revenue Mitchell Baker's
- 22:30 - 23:00 salary was almost 1% of Revenue Mark sur's salary at a nonprofit was over 1% of Revenue yeah if you work at Google or Apple the chief of executive there they may be paid better but as a percentage of Revenue it's much lower Mozilla does not have a culture of you need to win to get paid they are going to get paid if they win they're going to get paid if they lose they're going to get paid if they give the middle finger to every one of their users so why should they
- 23:00 - 23:30 care I don't think that Mozilla is doing this because they want to make money off of your data this has nothing to do with monetizing your data it has everything to do with being completely atrophied and out of touch as a company because they can make money regardless of being good at what they do they could twiddle their balls all day and they're going to make $37 million on investments alone which is more than enough to pay the chair and the executive director and all these other people they're insanely bloated salaries is that a company that's going to want to compete is that company that's going to be hungry to win of
- 23:30 - 24:00 course not there's not going to be that winning energy that exists elsewhere I'm not the biggest fan of some of the stuff Brave browsers done over the years but you know what they have that Mozilla doesn't a winning attitude they want to win when YouTube [ __ ] up ad blockers universally they figured out how to make their ad blocker work and they went on YouTube and said block all ads use our browser they did not say hey it looks like we have an ad blocker that works when all the other ones don't work let's destroy our reputation by changing our terms of use in the worst possible tone deaf way you know why that brave and Brendan
- 24:00 - 24:30 Ike have that mentality when Mozilla doesn't because Brave is not getting 400 to 500 million a year to do nothing that atrophies you you're not going to be the same company when you make money for doing nothing the worst thing that could happen to you as a human being is getting money to do nothing I've seen it happen to companies and people it atrophies you mentally emotionally physically all the way
- 24:30 - 25:00 around some people can deal with it I probably wouldn't be able to deal with it I don't think I'm mature enough I don't think I have it in me I don't think I have the fortitude for it I think if I get paid a [ __ ] ton of money for doing nothing I would become a complete prick be it's not even because I'd want to be a prick it's just I wouldn't have I wouldn't have there would be no pressure it's you know it's kind of like taking off your mask in space it's just like your head would explode it's you need pressure you need something to ground you you need gravity need an
- 25:00 - 25:30 atmosphere any let me know what you think in the comments down below consumer action task force Weeki every day that a company does some [ __ ] up [ __ ] the Weeki gets one page taller one page taller with the help of all of you I appreciate all of it I really do even the person that did this thing even you with your [ __ ] before on the
- 25:30 - 26:00 right and your after on the left even you even you you're a good person because you beat me to making the article and that matters somebody had to do the article who did that actually it was Costas Costas you no way he's honestly he's been doing way more work on this [ __ ] than I have he's done so much more work than I have you can't give you [ __ ] look at top
- 26:00 - 26:30 contributors let's go all time where's Costas and where am I all time oh yeah he got his ranking back Waldo was about to [ __ ] him up for a while yeah I'm I'm I'm at number seven I'm down here he's up there who the [ __ ] am I to be criticizing his damn images maybe he's in Australia the toilet water doesn't go the right way there why would the why would the before and after I got to ask him anyway see you in the next one bye now