Integrating Spirituality

Spirituality and Ethics in Social Work: Part 3.

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    Summary

    This session explores the integration of spirituality and ethics in social work. Nadia Saritsky dives into understanding the impact of spirituality on social work practices and outlines strategies to integrate these concepts ethically while addressing diverse backgrounds and potential biases. The webinar highlights the distinctions between religion and spirituality and emphasizes cultural competence, self-awareness, and approaches to navigate ethical dilemmas in practice.

      Highlights

      • Nadia Saritsky provides an insightful dive into integrating spirituality and ethics in social work practice. 📚
      • The webinar delivers strategies for ethically including spirituality in social work, stressing the importance of cultural sensitivity. 🌟
      • A key focus is on balancing spiritual inclusion without imposing personal beliefs onto clients. ⚖️
      • Participants learn about the nuances of unconscious biases and how to address them in practice. 🔍
      • The potential harms of not understanding religious trauma are discussed, with emphasis on 'do no harm' principles. ⚠️

      Key Takeaways

      • Spirituality and religion intersect but have distinct attributes essential for ethical social work. 🌌
      • Self-awareness and acknowledgement of personal biases are crucial for effective practice. 🧠
      • Cultural competence enhances a social worker's ability to serve clients from diverse backgrounds. 🌍
      • Ethical practice necessitates distinguishing between personal beliefs and professional roles. 🧘‍♂️
      • Referral to spiritual care practitioners can enhance client care and address complex spiritual needs. 🙌

      Overview

      Nadia Saritsky, from the Nova Scotia College of Social Workers, sheds light on integrating spirituality and ethics, recognizing their impact on social practice. The session is part of a series aimed at unraveling the complexities of these themes in a professional setting, enhancing the understanding of participants through an engaging, insightful discussion.

        The session begins with clarifying the distinction between spirituality and religion, unfolding the layers of ethics and cultural sensitivity necessary for practitioners. Social workers are urged to consistently check their biases and stay informed on diverse religious perspectives to align their practices with professional standards.

          Strategies discussed include comprehensive spiritual assessments and appropriate referrals to spiritual care professionals when handling complex spiritual and religious issues. This webinar reinforces the necessity for a solid ethical framework, aiming to prevent potential harm and promote healing and growth in clients.

            Chapters

            • 00:00 - 02:00: Introduction and Webinar Overview The chapter begins with a warm welcome from Alexandra Zanis, the social policy and communications coordinator at the Canadian Association of Social Workers. She greets members and participants joining the webinar from various locations. Alexandra expresses enthusiasm in connecting with attendees via the chat function, encouraging them to interact by showing their virtual names. She guides participants on how to use the chat function by locating the blue and white icons at the bottom of their screen.
            • 02:00 - 05:00: Technical Adjustments and Introductions The chapter titled 'Technical Adjustments and Introductions' addresses some initial technical issues and interactions with participants. It begins with instructions on where to find necessary widgets and features for a particular presentation, indicating a technical glitch: some slides were incorrectly uploaded. Participants are advised to refresh the page to access the correct slides. The narrator expresses enthusiasm about seeing participant names on the platform and mentions the inclusion of a poll function for engagement.
            • 05:00 - 08:00: Acknowledgment and Introduction to Part 3 The chapter begins by instructing the reader or viewer to ensure they have the slide deck open on their screen. It mentions a pull function which should be answered if needed, indicating an interactive component. The screen is customizable, allowing users to adjust the size of the video, slides, chat, and Q&A according to their preference, enhancing the user experience and personalization. It emphasizes personal comfort in viewing and interacting with the content. Lastly, it notes the inclusion of a course completion tracker at the bottom of the panel bar, highlighting a feature that tracks user progress.
            • 08:00 - 11:00: Spirituality and Ethics Overview This chapter provides information regarding the issuance of certificates of attendance after a presentation. Participants will receive certificates via email after watching the required minutes and once the presentation ends. It may take up to an hour for the email to arrive, and attendees are advised to check their junk folders. Alternatively, certificates can be downloaded directly from the platform after the presentation. The chapter also suggests opening the speaker bio widget, and mentions the involvement of a speaker named Nadia.
            • 11:00 - 14:00: Personal and Professional Ethics The chapter introduces Nadia Saritsky from the Nova Scotia College of Social Workers, describing her as a wonderful presenter. It is part of a three-part series, and viewers are encouraged to visit the Nova Scotia College of Social Workers or CISW website to watch parts one and two if they haven't already. While not necessary for this part, watching the previous parts is recommended as they cover foundational information.
            • 14:00 - 18:00: Unconscious Bias and Intersectionality The chapter discusses an incredible content and panel event that listeners might want to explore further. It highlights the availability of an abstract that provides a detailed outline of the topics covered. A significant announcement is made regarding the passage of a bill in the Senate of Canada to ban conversion therapy for all ages, marking an important step forward, although one more step is still needed. There's a sense of excitement and progress throughout this chapter.
            • 18:00 - 21:00: Religious Bias and Privilege In the chapter titled 'Religious Bias and Privilege,' the narrative discusses an important legislative development in Canada, highlighting a bill that has been a priority for the Canadian Association of Social Workers (CASW). There is a sense of celebration as the senate unanimously passed the bill, signaling a significant step forward. The excitement is palpable among the members of CASW. Nadia, a key figure or speaker, is warmly welcomed as she takes the stage to further discuss this development, with interactions occurring via chat and Q&A sessions.
            • 21:00 - 25:00: Ethical Considerations for Spiritual Integration The chapter titled 'Ethical Considerations for Spiritual Integration' begins with the presenter acknowledging audience engagement and setting the stage for her presentation. She hints that she will be referencing related ongoing developments, suggesting a dynamic and current insight into the topic. Nadia, the presenter, indicates that her presentation will be aligned with recent news that seems pertinent to her discussion on ethics in the integration of spirituality, highlighting the relevance of current events to her analysis. This commencement sets a tone of interactivity and present-day relevance, encouraging thoughtfulness on the ethical dimensions that influence spiritual integration in contemporary settings. The emphasis is on an engaging presentation that will weave in audience inputs and recent developments seamlessly.
            • 25:00 - 31:00: Spirituality Assessments and Tools In this chapter, the focus shifts to part three of spirituality and ethics in social work. The speaker, who acknowledges broadcasting from the ancestral and unseated territory of the Mi'kmaq people, hints at discussing various assessments and tools used in the realm of spirituality. The chapter likely explores the interface of ethical practices within social work through the lens of spirituality, although further details would be necessary to understand the specifics of these assessments and tools.
            • 31:00 - 35:00: Self-Awareness and Bias in Social Work This chapter discusses the misconception regarding the 17 and 25 treaties of peace and friendship. The treaties did not signify surrender of land and resources but instead recognized the title of the lands to the Mi'kmaq and Maliseet peoples. It also highlights the intention of the treaties to establish rules for an ongoing relationship between the signatory nations.
            • 35:00 - 40:00: Spiritual Care and Interprofessional Collaboration This chapter emphasizes the importance of acknowledging and respecting the lands and territories of Indigenous peoples. It encourages individuals, particularly those in professional roles, to take responsibility for reconciliation with Indigenous communities, recognizing that we are all part of treaty agreements.
            • 40:00 - 44:00: Concluding Remarks and Self-Care The chapter titled 'Concluding Remarks and Self-Care' begins with a quick overview of the previous sessions. It is noted that this is the third session in a series. The first session addressed the ethical implications of incorporating spirituality into social work, focusing on the interplay with diversity. It was primarily theoretical. The second session featured a panel that explored various perspectives on the subject. In the current session, there is an intention to conduct a more detailed examination of the topics discussed.
            • 44:00 - 72:00: Q&A Session The chapter titled "Q&A Session" explores the ethics and practical strategies for integrating discussed concepts, emphasizing the distinction between spirituality and religion despite their intersections and overlaps.
            • 72:00 - 73:00: Final Thoughts and Closing The chapter discusses the integration of spirituality into social work, differentiating it from religion while acknowledging their overlap. It addresses unique ethical concerns that arise in this integration process. It reflects on previous discussions, specifically considering the spirituality and religious beliefs of both the social worker and the client.

            Spirituality and Ethics in Social Work: Part 3. Transcription

            • 00:00 - 00:30 Hello CASW members and anyone who may be tuning  in wherever you are wherever you're at thank you   for joining us for another webinar today my name  is Alexandra Zanis and i am the social policy   and communications coordinator at the canadian  association of social workers as always i'd love   to see your virtual names showing up on my chat  function already if you haven't already found   that chat function pop it open and put those blue  and white icons at the bottom of your screen those
            • 00:30 - 01:00 icons are widgets should be where you can find  everything you would need for this presentation   uh we did have a little error on the slides for  today so if you uh have logged on in the last 15   minutes you may want to refresh your page if  you're looking for those slides uh there was   something incorrectly uploaded there beforehand so  just refresh your page quickly while i'm talking   uh and you'll have the correct slide presentation  in that handout widget i love seeing everyone's   names come up this is so wonderful we also have a  poll function i put that pull function up uh for
            • 01:00 - 01:30 you to ensure that you have this slide deck open  on the screen so take a minute make sure you have   that pull function answer it if you'd like and  then we know that you have these slides available   and up on your platform with that being said your  screen is customizable so take a minute maybe make   the video bigger make the slides bigger the chat  and q a whatever you do is just for your screen   so feel free to personalize it and make sure it's  the best for your viewing needs you will find as   well the course completion tracker at the bottom  at the very end of those uh that panel bar that is
            • 01:30 - 02:00 where you'll get your certificate of attendance  certificates of attendance are emailed to you   after you've viewed the required viewing minutes  and also after the presentation has concluded   um so give it up to an hour in your email  or check your junk folder if you don't see   it there you're always welcome to log back on  the exact same way you just did and download   it directly from the prop platform but that has  to happen after the presentation has concluded   feel free to also pop open that speaker bio  widget i am so grateful to be joined by nadia
            • 02:00 - 02:30 nadia saritsky is with the nova scotia college  of social workers and they are wonderful such   a wonderful presenter you are in for a treat  this is part three of a three-part series feel   free to head over to the nova scotia college of  social workers website or the cisw website if   you haven't already watched part one and part  two don't worry we're happy you're here if you   haven't watched part one or part two but feel free  to go back and re-watch those as we did cover some
            • 02:30 - 03:00 really incredible content and an incredible panel  event as well so you may want to check that out   you're also welcome to pop open that abstract  function uh on the widgets at the bottom   um that will give you a bit of an outline  in detail of what we're covering today   i did want to also note as a bit of a excitement  maybe an announcement that yesterday in the senate   so in the senate of canada the bill to ban  conversion therapy for all ages has passed   which means that there is one more step yes  we are very thrilled one more step which is
            • 03:00 - 03:30 receiving royal ascent before that officially  becomes law in canada this is something cisw   has been calling for for a very long time so we  definitely had a lot of cheers yesterday when   we saw the senate unanimously pass that bill  yes yeah um that's just a little note from me   and our excitement at casw i can't wait to pass it  over to nadia though because the star of the show   is here with us today Nadia feel free to take it  away i'm on the back end use that chat use that q
            • 03:30 - 04:00 a tab let us know your questions your thoughts  your comments um nadia take it away thank you   um that's awesome news and in fact i'm going to  be referencing it slightly in my presentation so   it'll work out perfectly um so i am going to uh  continue with um my slide which hopefully you see
            • 04:00 - 04:30 here um so i'm talking about part three of  spirituality and ethics and social work and um are you there yes okay all right so um   i uh already have been uh introduced but i  want to begin first by acknowledging that i   am speaking from magnolia which is the ancestral  and unseated territory of the mi'kmaq people
            • 04:30 - 05:00 and this territory is covered by the 17 25  treaties of peace and friendship the treaties   did not deal with surrender of land and resources  but in fact recognized migma and velocity youth   title to the lands covered in the treaty and  established the rules for what was to be an   ongoing relationship between the various  signatory nations and i invite everyone to
            • 05:00 - 05:30 take a few moments and think of the lands and  territories from which you are viewing this   of the indigenous peoples who lived and continue  to live within these lands and how each of us   individually and as a profession can hold  ourselves accountable to reconciliation with   indigenous peoples here and across turtle  island we are all treaty peoples thank you
            • 05:30 - 06:00 and i'm going to now just do a quick overview  um as mentioned this is the third sec session so   the first session of talking about the ethical  implications of integrating spirituality into   social work and how diversity can impact this  session one was focused on theory session two   was a panel to explore different perspectives and  today we're going to do a more in-depth dive into
            • 06:00 - 06:30 some of the ethics as well as practical strategies  to integrate the concepts that have been discussed   and so i am going to kind of begin simply  by talking and remembering that spirituality   and religion are different although they are  intersecting and overlapping and this is probably   one of the most important concepts to take away  from this session which is the ways in which when
            • 06:30 - 07:00 talking about how to integrate spirituality into  social work or should we in integrated how that is   different uh than religion but because they are  overlapping there are unique ethical concerns   and we talked a little in the first session  about a couple of areas to consider specifically   the social worker's own spirituality and or  religious beliefs a client spirituality and
            • 07:00 - 07:30 their religious beliefs the role of spirituality  in the therapeutic context as well as considering   the role of religion and the role of the social  worker in the client's spirituality and there are   unique ethical dilemmas in each of these as  i outlined in the first session um but just   a quick review of our code of ethics so that we  can think about all of the different conflicts and
            • 07:30 - 08:00 issues that might come up so obviously the first  issue is respect for the inherent dignity and   worth of people and are everyone's right to  self-determination and the unique choices that   each person makes the second is the pursuit  of social justice and the ways in which that   might be integrated into this the third we know is  service to humanity and the importance of putting
            • 08:00 - 08:30 the needs of those we're serving above our own and  to really work on addressing the larger good and   integrity in the professional practice of course  that is another important goal our goal is to   try to be impartial in the work that we do  and adhering to these values confidentiality   and specifically competence in the professional  practice which i know is one of the reasons why   everyone is attending this session the ways in  which each of us have a responsibility and ethical
            • 08:30 - 09:00 responsibility to continue learning because  that is the way that we can most effectively   serve the people we are working with now there are  professional ethics as i just outlined but there   are also personal ethics and values each one of us  have our own personal values and sometimes those   are aligned with our professional values  sometimes they there might be a conflict
            • 09:00 - 09:30 and we have an ethical responsibility when  there is a conflict to seek supervision use   self-reflection and values clarification and  also this governs morals we have to become   self-aware as much as possible and ensure  that our skills reflect our knowledge   as well as our values of the profession and that  we are addressing the potential for unconscious
            • 09:30 - 10:00 bias now unconscious bias or sometimes called  implicit bias happens without us being aware   and it's uh really there are multiple different  types of unconscious bias so affinity bias we tend   to have a preference for people who are like us  confirmation bias we tend to look for information   that confirms to our own ideas group think and we  tend to be influenced by stereotypes socialization
            • 10:00 - 10:30 friends culture media and there are ways of  addressing it but we need to think about all   of the different potential ways that unconscious  bias can impact the way we work with the clients   that we serve we also need to be aware of the  ways in which intersectionality might happen
            • 10:30 - 11:00 right so intersectionality is a lens through which  we can see where power comes and collides where it   locks and intersects and it is the acknowledgement  that everyone has their own unique experiences of   discrimination and privilege so depending on  where one is located on the wheel of power and   privilege if we are in the center and have  lots of power if we are more marginalized   and have less power in our current society going  to impact us right so and there's going to be
            • 11:00 - 11:30 a conflation and the ways in which there's an  intersection of multiple areas of potential   marginalization is going to impact how we  experience things as is to the extent that   we tend to be primarily in areas of power if  we are for example white heterosexual christian   um we might not know what it's like to be a  minority and that might impact how we function
            • 11:30 - 12:00 um because of that it's important to look at some  statistics where a lot of statistics talk about   religious bias and that many people who  are not christian or atheist experience   religious discrimination in our second panel we  had two anonymous social workers who spoke about
            • 12:00 - 12:30 their experiences of discrimination religious  bias is certainly very real and if we listen to   first voice perspectives then we understand that  that can impact the way we practice and that is   true on many levels but specifically when it comes  to integrating spirituality within a social work   context it can be because of the overlapping  areas of religion and spirituality it can
            • 12:30 - 13:00 affect our clients without our realizing  it and that's what i really want to focus   on is the ways in which sometimes religion and  faith can be a form of privilege and blindness   and also how religion can be a source of trauma  for individuals so most importantly we have to   have clear assessments and that's a large part  of what i will talk about as well but we also   have to make sure that we've done our own work in  reflecting upon ourselves our beliefs our biases
            • 13:00 - 13:30 as well as reflecting on where are we located on  the privileged wheel where is our social location   and when we think about social justice and  spirituality as a concept the ways in which   those people who are marginalized when it comes  to their religious or spiritual beliefs we have to   think about how what is our role as social workers  and really how do we help our clients access
            • 13:30 - 14:00 the religious and spiritual resources that they  need which may not be the ones that we believe in   um and how can we balance conflicting values  and concerns and what does it mean to think   about social justice related spirituality  when it comes to our clients and to ourselves   these are questions to really reflect on and  to keep coming back to because ideally the   more we learn and grow the more we're going to  have more insight into some of these questions
            • 14:00 - 14:30 but the truth is that we don't know what we don't  know and we don't know what we think we know so   while we might say okay when it comes to  integrating religion and spirituality into   social work we should not proselytize i'm going  to assume that everyone agrees that that's a no   but we don't realize the ways in which there  may be unconscious proselytizing or prioritizing
            • 14:30 - 15:00 the ways in which our language what we say and  what we do what we don't say what we don't do   might be creating a situation where there is  an unconscious or subtle communication about   what is okay and what is not okay so you see  here the the doctor that's saying okay smile   and say jesus right and that's um an important  thing to reflect upon because we sometimes say
            • 15:00 - 15:30 things accidentally just by talking and we use  language that is uh current so for example we   might be even if we know better as social workers  we might say a phrase like commit suicide instead   of die by suicide and we might have even attended  classes where we know that saying the word commit
            • 15:30 - 16:00 teaches and communicates a certain bias  like the word committing a sin it's a bad   word and it's a phrase that is problematic  similarly with religion and spirituality   there are ways where we might unconsciously be  using words that we know from uh the language of
            • 16:00 - 16:30 english that we share that is the language of the  colon colonizing presence that also has a religion   that there we may not realize what we are  unintentionally saying so the first step is   humility the second step is self-awareness so  questioning what have we been taught what do we   believe what are our assumptions um deeply held  how do they play themselves out in interpersonal
            • 16:30 - 17:00 and communal and systemic ways becoming aware of  the multiple areas of our preferences our biases   is a very important self step towards ethical  practice so there's multiple reflective models   out there uh to think about what is what  is the reason that we might be struggling
            • 17:00 - 17:30 trying to think about working with a client  where's that what does what can we learn um what   can we learn about our attitudes about our clients  attitudes um and there's different archetypes of   self-awareness so there's there's different  levels of inter of self-awareness we might   have high levels of external self-awareness we  might have high levels of internal self-awareness   so we might be self-aware of our own stuff but  we may not know how other people perceive us
            • 17:30 - 18:00 or we may be so focused on how other people  perceive us that we don't always think about   our own stuff right so self-awareness happens on  two different continuums external self-awareness   and internal self-awareness so you can see that  we might be introspectors where we have a lot   of internal self-awareness but maybe not much  external self-awareness how other people see us
            • 18:00 - 18:30 and part of being able to practice ethically as  a social worker with diverse populations is to do   that self-awareness not just on an internal level  but also on an external level how do other people   of different religious backgrounds or different  backgrounds and identities perceive us being able   to have that feedback is a gift because it can  help us become more aware of our blind spots
            • 18:30 - 19:00 because oftentimes those people with privilege are  not aware of their own privilege and it manifests   in statements like merry christmas i have already  had several social workers wish me merry christmas   even though i am not christian um so that's  an example where people might say that um but   it could be appropriate if you are aware of the  other person's belief and that they align but
            • 19:00 - 19:30 assuming that everyone is celebrating a holiday  that is uniquely christian is uh one example and   we might know that particular component but  we might think oh well if someone's christian   and i'm christian i can say merry christmas  but we still may not realize how integrating   even such a small term might impact our  clients even if they might be christian
            • 19:30 - 20:00 and that's because we don't know maybe christmas  is a very hard time for them maybe it brings up   difficult memories what seems like a kind gesture  or comment could be triggering for someone and as   social workers we have a unique responsibility  to do no harm so here you see just the basic
            • 20:00 - 20:30 medical ethics 101 there are four basic principles  autonomy recognizing the diversity of other people   justice trying to make sure that minority  voices and perspectives are heard and   respected equally and then there's beneficence  and non-maleficence now beneficence   is about doing good non-maleficence is about  do not cause harm why are these two principles   separate because lots of people can have  great intentions and try to do good however
            • 20:30 - 21:00 sometimes we do harm even though our intentions  are good so non-maleficence is considered to be   the first goal above all do no harm above all  don't make someone worse off right that's the   basic basic ethics requirement you know our code  of ethics as social workers is obviously much more
            • 21:00 - 21:30 complex and coming soon hopefully very very soon  the cisw is working on a plan to really embed more   concretely some of the values of diversity that  i'm talking about specifically how do we honor   the anti-racist principles as well as  anti-discrimination principles as well as   decolonization principles so that's the  goal we're working towards as social
            • 21:30 - 22:00 workers but at the very least we should  do no harm so what does that actually mean   and in what situation might integrating  spirituality into social work possibly do harm   so the first thing is the more we learn  the more we realize how much we don't know   so to do no harm requires that we learn  more about all the different types
            • 22:00 - 22:30 of diversities that exist so we might have learned  a lot when it comes to diversity when it comes to   gender or race or disability or but how much do  we know about religion and culture and how that   might impact the work that we do unless  we do deep dives into each of these   areas we have the potential of doing harm  because we don't know what we don't know
            • 22:30 - 23:00 specifically when it comes  to religion and spirituality   sometimes there are people who've had adverse  religious experiences perhaps they are survivors   of uh sexual abuse at the hands of clergy  perhaps they are survivors of residential schools   perhaps they identify as lgbtq to spirit and um  they experience themselves as having had religious
            • 23:00 - 23:30 trauma or having been judged um or perhaps they  have uh their their refugees who are escaping   uh religious war and for whom uh religion  is a source of stress so that even   bringing up a concept like spirituality  might potentially cause harm because we don't
            • 23:30 - 24:00 know what a seemingly innocuous word might  trigger in somebody who's experienced religious   trauma in some way and so that's the first  principle of ethics do no harm which means that   lots of very well intentioned individuals who  want to integrate spirituality into social work   might potentially cause harm so today's session  is about not only clarifying that but giving
            • 24:00 - 24:30 some specific strategies and tools to ensure  that if one does integrate spirituality into   social work one does so by having the least  amount of potential harm possible done   because there is a need for healing  specifically as a result of religious
            • 24:30 - 25:00 adverse religious experiences um residential  school survivors this is an article on the left   from uh cbc that talks about how residential  school survivors will need specific cultural   care specifically when it comes to the  ways in which they experienced religion   in a negative way and uh the on the right  there's a an artistic representation of the   need for healing of indigenous communities from  what was done to them in those residential schools
            • 25:00 - 25:30 there's also ways in which some forms  of religion might have been intertwined   with uh human trafficking in certain countries  and so being aware of what we might be potentially   triggering is uh very important when considering  the words that we use and the references and
            • 25:30 - 26:00 that we use we assume that spirituality  and religion is a source of uh comfort   and resilience but that is actually an assumption  based in privilege um so for example and this is   uh very timely since alexandra mentioned that  conversion therapy was just banned but what is   conversion therapy and there is a lot of research  that is being done specifically on that right now
            • 26:00 - 26:30 conversion therapy is really not just active forms  of trying to convert people from identifying as   gay or queer or transgender but also it is defined  as subtle ways and what constitutes subtle ways   some some people have experienced the potential  of bringing in religion into a therapeutic context
            • 26:30 - 27:00 as a form of um attempting to convert um  someone and so there's implicit and explicit   ways in which uh conversion therapy  is potentially uh in practice   and so it is defined as a broad set of practices  pressures or messages that attempt to deny   suppress or change the experiences or identities  of same-sex attracted gender non-conforming
            • 27:00 - 27:30 to spirit lesbian gay bisexual transgender  queer sexual and gender diverse populations   whether the change efforts are blatant or subtle  religiously biased or not many people do not   fully understand the ways in which this happens  so this is getting ready to become uh illegal   which is great but we have even more of a  responsibility to understand the ways in which
            • 27:30 - 28:00 implicit bias where we are unaware might work  subconsciously be involuntarily activated and be   spontaneous and so from an ethical perspective  since this can cause harm to the first step   towards integrating spirituality into social work  is becoming aware of one's own potential biases we also don't know the ways in which for  example holocaust survivors might be especially
            • 28:00 - 28:30 uh anxious when if someone who is of a  different religious tradition tries to bring up   um the potential for um for religion because it  might bring up memories of uh people trying to   destroy judaism by converting them and so we don't  know who has uh had these experiences within their
            • 28:30 - 29:00 family and that's another reason we need to be  treading lightly for a lot of people christianity   in particular which is the majority religion in  canada has roots in colonialism and it can impact   minorities and so becoming aware of structural  ways in which christianity is privileged for
            • 29:00 - 29:30 example um those stores are closed we have to take  off work that those are reminders that religious   minorities might experience and the experience  of being a minority can cause additional trauma also though for people who are queer  the becoming aware of the ways in which
            • 29:30 - 30:00 some theologies are not inclusive of gay  identity is important and we want to be   self-aware of what is going on within  ourselves that cause us to try to   bring up uh religious doctrines in a social work  context which is supposed to be inclusive of all
            • 30:00 - 30:30 people so obviously the first step in addition  to self-awareness is diversity religious literacy   learning about all of the different as much as  we can about all of the different parts of that   colorful wheel and all of the different  religious traditions so that's the first step   as well as well as being aware  of our own potential for biases
            • 30:30 - 31:00 but the other part is how do we  assess there actually isn't one   assessment tool that is single valid um it  doesn't exist so there are a lot of different   assessment tools and some of us make  use assessment tools that are not   evidence-based as well and then there's problems  with what is considered evidence-based and were   those studies done on minorities or not and how  were they cross-referenced so there's a lot of
            • 31:00 - 31:30 complexity in this so this leads me to the  deeper question how much of our professional   education and continuing education is focused upon  unconscious bias how aware are we what are the   mechanisms that have been used to make us more  self-aware and critical thinking practitioners
            • 31:30 - 32:00 do we focus on cognitive bias on emotional bias on  structural bias and what are the implications of   are not focusing on that what are those ethical  implications what does it mean if we don't   focus a lot of our professional development on  addressing these potentially powerful influences so the first thing that i would say and this was  brought up during the panel is the importance of
            • 32:00 - 32:30 referrals specifically referrals to chaplains  or pastoral counselors spiritual practitioners   who are trained specifically in spirituality  and i wanted to just highlight the unique   training of spiritual care practitioners and the  unique ways in which their training and i i should   say ours because i am also a board-certified  interfaith chaplain and in addition to
            • 32:30 - 33:00 the advanced graduate degree in theology and  religious studies that chaplain has or spiritual   care practitioner has they also go through two  years of postgraduate interdisciplinary training   in medicine counseling and world religions  this is called clinical pastoral education   and there's two years of that is not only  cognitive learning but it's experiential learning
            • 33:00 - 33:30 it includes group therapy group supervision three  hours a week with a diverse group of peers as well   as two years of individual supervision once  a week so remember we were talking about how   self-awareness has to happen on two levels  external and internal so clinical pastoral   education is about giving you that feedback  very intensely through three hours a week of
            • 33:30 - 34:00 interpersonal therapeutic supervision as well as  two years of interdisciplinary learning and then   additional training for several years prior to  board certification so the level of training   of a spiritual care practitioner in this area  is profound and if somebody is board certified   then that means that they are prepared to do  in-depth counseling so a lot of what i highlighted
            • 34:00 - 34:30 earlier in the do not do no harm section or  category speaks to some very potentially intense   spiritual needs someone who's gone through  adverse religious experiences of the kind   that i referenced above requires a depth of  spiritual counseling that might be outside of   the scope of practice and competence of a social  worker right because ethical social work practice
            • 34:30 - 35:00 involves being able to do good assessments being  self-aware and focused on providing the best   possible practice and interventions possible and  ethical social work practice often means doing   referrals for people who need  advanced specialized treatment now within a clinical setting it is absolutely  appropriate and important for a spirit
            • 35:00 - 35:30 for a social worker to address spiritual needs to  assess them to find a way to assess them that is   effective is evidence-based and then to find ways  to assess how to integrate that simply doing a   good comprehensive assessment can help people  know that their spiritual needs are welcome   within a clinical setting to what extent that  they may need additional counseling to focus on
            • 35:30 - 36:00 their unique spiritual needs if that is a source  of their woundedness that is something that a good   initial assessment involves now it is certainly  very helpful to look at genograms and eco maps to   integrate spirituality religious beliefs cultural  beliefs into that one can even do spiritual
            • 36:00 - 36:30 and religious um eco maps and spiritual  and religious uh genograms to have a more   comprehensive understanding of the ways in which  people might be experiencing their distress   visual tools are obviously super helpful for  people and they can be really helpful when   assessing someone's spiritual needs and helpful  for being able to make those determinations
            • 36:30 - 37:00 but it is worth noting that of the many many  instruments and assessments that exist many   of them are not validated what that means is they  are considered biased i myself more than once was   looking at instruments to try to use for  research um i was i did a paper on spirituality
            • 37:00 - 37:30 and loneliness for older adults and found that  the spirituality instruments used were not um   universally recognized so for example in uh  judaism in hebrew the word for religion doesn't   exist in hebrew and that is not unique to hebrew  that is true for other world languages as well
            • 37:30 - 38:00 and other cultures and other religious  traditions and so being aware of what the   language is is uh very important for ensuring  cross-cultural competency and ethical practice   so there are levels of clinical inquiry  about spirituality and social work   and one can do an initial spiritual screening  one can do a spiritual history taking   and one can do a deeper spiritual assessment  at which point it may be appropriate
            • 38:00 - 38:30 to make a referral depending upon what  emerges and to do that concurrently with   the social work and therapy that is being provided  um and there are lots of different examples so   i have included a few here you can learn  more from that article that i um presented
            • 38:30 - 39:00 here by george fitchat who does a lot of research  through rush university medical center in chicago   um and so there's religious struggle screening  protocol and that is an evidence-based tool that   can help just even basic questions is religion  or spirituality important to you as you cope   yes or no has there ever been a time right just  because it's no doesn't mean that it may not have
            • 39:00 - 39:30 been at some point if there has been yes then  we want to do a deeper spiritual assessment   um a lot of the research that around spiritual  care does is hospital-centered so for those of   us that are not working in hospitals but in more  typical clinical settings there may need to be   some adaptation but taking a spiritual history so  this is considered one of the more evidence-based
            • 39:30 - 40:00 universally applicable ways to do it it's called  fica so faith and belief do you consider yourself   spiritual or religious or do you have spiritual  beliefs that help you cope with stress importance   what importance does your faith or belief have  in your life have your beliefs influenced how   you care for yourself and then community are  you part of a spiritual or religious community
            • 40:00 - 40:30 is this of support to you and how right that's  a very important question we make assumptions   oh you're part of religious community there that's  great but we don't know if it's of support to them   if it's something that you're part of because you  feel obligated to and it's important to ask and   have more information and then it's also good to  just bring it up let's let empower the client to
            • 40:30 - 41:00 to give us directives this is the most ethical  question that we can ask how would you like me   to include spiritual issues in the our counseling  relationship so that is a very important way of   shifting the balance of power and reminding  the client that they are the ones in charge   this is a another model for spiritual assessment  which looks at the many different levels of
            • 41:00 - 41:30 spiritual assessment of which there is the  spiritual at the bottom which can be about belief   meaning a sense of vocation or obligations the  word vocation is a christian word so um it would   be important to unpack that a little further  this was published in 1993 so it's it's not   quite as evident so it's important to think  about those words and maybe even check them
            • 41:30 - 42:00 out with other people before you  try them out with your clients looking at the spiritual needs model this is  another approach for assessment that has been   actually validated so looking at different  definitions of spirituality meaning transcendence   values and psychosocial identity so recognizing  that there are corresponding needs to what we
            • 42:00 - 42:30 are assessing in the dimension and domain of  spirituality so looking at meaning if we ask   someone about meaning or what we're really asking  also about is their ability for life balance   transcendence the need for connection  values um is uh has many different levels   of needs related to that as well as psychosocial  identity now this question these questions that
            • 42:30 - 43:00 i just answered they seem super simple and easy  but they have been validated using statistical   analysis to ensure that those questions  actually are measuring something um that   is real and validated and reproducible across  different cultures and religious backgrounds   so there's uh questions that as that we would  potentially re-translate in terms of how do you
            • 43:00 - 43:30 assess the meaning the need for life balance so  are you having difficulties coping with what is   happening with you now um is your overall life  balance disturbed by what is happening to you now   how is the person speaking about their need for  life balance similarly the need for connection   um does what is happening with you now change  how you view your spirituality or your faith
            • 43:30 - 44:00 so those would be questions there these are very  in-depth and it's important to have done a very   thorough assessment back to what we were saying  about the levels of assessment right you want to   do initial spiritual screening if it is if when  you do that initial spiritual screening to what   extent would you like spirituality integrated into  this therapeutic context um if we realize that the
            • 44:00 - 44:30 person has maybe experienced an adverse religious  experience we want to try to address that ahead of   time now of course therapy is all about grist for  the mill so if we are treading carefully and we   and we realize that perhaps there is something  that is going on that is intense we will want
            • 44:30 - 45:00 to make that referral um so that they have the  ability to follow up because if we are unpacking   something that has stayed tightly protected  for a long time then we have a responsibility   to make sure that they have the tools they  need to address it back to doing no harm so um but that tool has been um analyzed statistically  through factor analysis to us ensure internal
            • 45:00 - 45:30 consistency it is effective at being able to  identify and that's an important part is how   can we be ensuring that when we're talking about  this we're using tools that actually are effective um there's if we think about the this sort of  like a continuum social workers are important to
            • 45:30 - 46:00 be able to provide basic spiritual care and to be  able to do some screening for spiritual distress   and then to be able to make those referrals  as appropriate but we want to think about not   going outside of our scope of practice by becoming  more aware of the scope of practice of our allied   professions specifically spiritual care providers  and if there is a desire amongst uh people who are
            • 46:00 - 46:30 attending or watching this training to do more to  go more in depth on spiritual care there actually   is specific training for social workers who  would like to become chaplains who would like to   become spiritual care providers it is a different  profession although they're they are overlapping   and so part of ethical practice is about knowing  our scope of practice and knowing when to refer
            • 46:30 - 47:00 so this is a little more about our scope of  practice right ethical practice means assessing   fully so we want to ensure that we assess for  spiritual needs but then referring as necessary   um so in conclusion and i've  left time for some questions when looking at the ethics of integrating  spirituality into social work the first
            • 47:00 - 47:30 step is to be continuing to learn to learn more  about unique religious traditions and backgrounds   cultures and heritages to focus on experiential  learning not just cognitive learning so that we   can be aware of our own biases we want to also  experience other religious practices so it's   not enough to just read a book or talk to somebody  we want to try to immerse ourselves to learn more
            • 47:30 - 48:00 and then it's important to learn about adverse  religious experiences because many of our clients   may have experienced one of those and we want  to be able to be as aware of those as possible   while also knowing ourselves and our  bias our scope and practice limits   and referring as necessary and that's how we  can ensure competent ethical spirit integration
            • 48:00 - 48:30 of spirituality within social work practice so  with that um i am done and i welcome questions wonderful thank you so much nadia that was so  informative and what a wonderful way to wrap up   this three-part series as i said at the beginning  just a quick uh reminder for folks that part one
            • 48:30 - 49:00 and part two are available on the cisw website  under the continuing education section so feel   free to go and check that out this is the final  of those series so feel free to watch part one   and part two we do have some time for questions  uh so if you please feel free to use that q a tab   and then type your questions we're going to try  and get through all of them here but feel free to   type them there this is a wonderful question  nadia um i'm going to ask it of you uh first   thank you so much for this insightful series of  teachings and learnings i teach social work in
            • 49:00 - 49:30 a predominantly christian conservative community  can you speak to an ethical response to students   who express their moral responsibility to profess  their understanding of the biblical teachings to   clients students often comply when told not to do  so but what happens when they get out to practice well this is a this is a significant concern  and probably um the reason why i am teaching
            • 49:30 - 50:00 this class is to help people become more aware  of the ways in which doing so can cause harm   and that's probably a challenge to do for someone  who is located in a place of privilege but one of   the things that's amazing about learning about  intersectionality is that oftentimes people
            • 50:00 - 50:30 who are privileged in location in one way might  have had an experience of not being privileged   in a different way and if they can become aware  of what it feels like to be a minority and to be   told that your way is not okay then they might  be aware of how that might impact their clients
            • 50:30 - 51:00 but i would say that the field of  social work probably has some growth   to do when it comes to how can we assess whether  someone is capable of um going out in public   and working in social work and doing this so i'm  going to share a little bit about how chaplains   deal with this so you could probably  imagine that many um conservative
            • 51:00 - 51:30 uh ordained clergy are drawn to chaplaincy  who have that same belief that one should   profess their belief and and help save people  and that's what draws them and the experiential   learning which is about tapping into which i would  say i hope the practicum does to help you tap
            • 51:30 - 52:00 into the experience of being a minority in other  ways is important but when someone goes through   and gets the feedback from others so there's  intentional opportunities to be interacting   with people of different backgrounds than you and  getting that feedback how do you experience me   and then incorporating that into your learning  goals and incorporating that into what you do
            • 52:00 - 52:30 there's also what we call verbatim clinics in  chaplaincy where when someone does a counseling   interaction they write down not only the verbatim  transcript of that counseling interaction   but for chaplaincy training they have  to also include what is the theoretical   counseling paradigm what is the spiritual paradigm  and there's a whole set of theories around that
            • 52:30 - 53:00 what is the scriptural belief around that and  what is your personal feelings like were you   feeling anxious when this person was talking about  something and is that why you said what you said   and then what you're supposed to do  is you're supposed to not only analyze   what you said but why you didn't say alternative  things and then the verbatim clinic you bring that
            • 53:00 - 53:30 written piece of work which is really long  self-reflective to your group of peers who are all   organized to be different religious beliefs right  so a clinical pastoral education learning session   explicitly tries to make sure that there's  people of every religious belief that   there's um someone who is more conservative  someone who is more liberal someone who is   of a different race someone who is of a different  gender of a different sexual identity all together
            • 53:30 - 54:00 to spend a year learning and working together  and their job is to help you see your blind spots   so when you do those clinical opportunities  and you're saying well i said this but i didn't   say this it's up to that person to um to provide  that feedback and then you become board certified   which means you go to another group of people  that you've never met before who are all radically
            • 54:00 - 54:30 different you show them those verbatims and their  job is try to see what is your weak spot and they   try to press on it to see how you react when  under pressure to see how you do those things so the easy answer to you is to say  it's good to know one's limits right   if one realizes that one has really strong  religious beliefs that might impact how one
            • 54:30 - 55:00 works with a client recognizing the potential  for harm might cause that person say this is   outside of my scope of competency i know i need to  refer to somebody who has done this work and has   gotten and i'm sharing the how in-depth  it is so that when you see someone who's a
            • 55:00 - 55:30 board-certified spiritual care practitioner  you have an idea of how much training there   is specifically in areas of diversity so that  that person can make a referral if they know   that that's not their belief that's fine of course  what one does as a social worker is what one does   when we're paid if someone wants  to in their own spare time go and evangelize and share their understanding of what  is right that is different but someone who does
            • 55:30 - 56:00 that likely has potential blind spots we all have  blind spots so we need to know what those blind   spots are and ethical social work practice is  about ensuring that we do that and for professors   who see that they have an extra obligation to try  to help people who might be located on a place of   privilege become aware of their privilege  and what it might be like to not have it
            • 56:00 - 56:30 you know we did a really phenomenal exercise in  my social work degree i believe it was called the   power flower i don't have the ability or any csw  staff to pop it in the chat if anyone knows what   i'm talking about and can pop it in the chat that  might be good it was jarring to say the least how   many intersecting identities of privilege i had in  the context of my social work practice and being
            • 56:30 - 57:00 able to see it in a diagram how much privilege  i have being you know from a euro christian   et cetera et cetera background as a student i  think was very powerful i think that i think it's   called the power flower so exercises like that i  think are very important i'm going to just see if   um it's not the power of flower although  it's a little floral if i can pull up that
            • 57:00 - 57:30 wheel of privilege and power which looks at  citizenship skin color formal education ability   being aware body size housing wealth being aware  of all of these different and they're probably   even more and where one is located on each of  these is a really good experience so that we   can become aware of how many times we have power  and how many times we don't and while i may have
            • 57:30 - 58:00 power in some areas the experience of what it's  like to be marginalized in certain areas can cause   me to become a little more empathetic or if not  me than to hear the experiences of people for and   that's where first voice education is so important  too i had a couple more questions that i saw   yeah um and i'll try to be quick but um  i saw the serenity prayer um the serenity
            • 58:00 - 58:30 prayer is certainly a lovely prayer it  has christian roots and it is christian   and many people know that it's got christian  roots and may not feel comfortable with it   um and that is really a challenge  for the recovery movement as a whole   and there are different religious groups  that have tried to create their own versions   of it in order to make it a little more  accessible but that's where having more
            • 58:30 - 59:00 of an understanding that if that is the only  thing available in the community for example   talking with a client about what it will feel like  to be feeling maybe oppressed or marginalized or   in in seeking out help and using that as an  opportunity to help the client talk about   what that might feel like and different  clients are going to have different   experiences but um it is potentially problematic  for some and not at all problematic for others
            • 59:00 - 59:30 many people are used to translating um you know  there's when you're a minority there's uh you're   used to seeing things from the big picture as  well as your own perspective um when one is only   in the majority we're not used to translating what  it's like to not have it be the way we know um and
            • 59:30 - 60:00 ideally social work teaches us how to translate  so that we can be able to connect with more people there's a really wonderful question in the q a and  i think it kind of ties into another question in   here about the lack of access potentially to uh  social work or healthcare providers for rural and   remote communities um it's it's i'm trying to  combine two questions into one here so pardon   me if i'm if i'm doing it a little bit poorly um  but the question is around what are your thoughts
            • 60:00 - 60:30 on existential therapy when someone has an overlap  with aspects of spiritual care i'm grateful to   work with a spiritual health practitioner at my  hospital but what is your advice when people don't   have access to a cost-free or low-cost clinical  spiritual care practitioner or potentially you   know that broader concept of being in a rural  remote community where there is no access and   the social worker serves as kind of a multitude  of yeah of hats great question very important
            • 60:30 - 61:00 so number one um the benefit of covid as much as  there have been problems is a lot more things are   available online um including self-help groups  and it allows for people who are geographically   located to potentially have access to things  perhaps through the library and their internet   but that is a resource that is now available the  other thing to think about is using grist for
            • 61:00 - 61:30 the mill right so um like i mentioned with the the  self-help 12-step serenity prayer kind of approach   addressing for the client this may not be  comfortable and i would encourage people   doing it for everyone don't make assumptions  at with whenever you're sharing a resource
            • 61:30 - 62:00 many clients might find this helpful but many  clients might also have difficulty because it does   come from a christian background i don't know how  you would feel about this so using it as just an   opportunity to raise the conversation and have  the client talk through the feelings about it um   you're not going to cause harm by having by noting  that they may or may not have problems with it it
            • 62:00 - 62:30 gives them an opportunity to have their concerns  be validated perhaps for the first time to have   that sense of empowerment that they can choose to  modify it however they wish now existentialists   therapy um is a a great way to try to bring it  down to the most fundamental common denominator
            • 62:30 - 63:00 and i i i am a fan and um i do think that that is  a really helpful way to think about integrating   spirituality into social work but with everything  even from the very beginning with an assessment   talking about how spirituality can bring  up things and that you know normalizing
            • 63:00 - 63:30 potential concerns that might come  up helping people say oh this could   be true several people have mentioned  that this might be this might not be how   do you think and then putting the client in charge  of making that decision is i think really helpful wonderful i want to know i'm going to maybe ask  one or two more questions i do want to know that   this is the fourth presentation on spirituality  and social we have done with nadia so if you   are looking for increased trainings we do have  them on the cisw website and we do have other
            • 63:30 - 64:00 spirituality and social work trainings uh there as  well so if this is the first time you're kind of   being introduced to spirituality and social  work feel free to dive a little bit deeper   in the coming weeks months into some of  the other offerings casw has um there is a   uh association for spiritual social work i  believe who did a panel event with us yep   um so you may want to check that out as well if  we didn't get to your question or if we weren't
            • 64:00 - 64:30 able to cover all the materials you were hoping  us to cover um this is a really interesting one   and i would i would really like to ask it because  um cisw has been uh pretty i'm i'm trying to think   about us yet um we've been very on the forefront  of the medical assistance in dying legislation   um so this is a wonderful question and i think it  ties and dovetails really well into some of the   other assets and and sorry facets of which social  work will sometimes coincide and rub up against
            • 64:30 - 65:00 religion uh in ways that we're not always prepared  for so the question is uh i do medical assistance   and dying debriefings of health care staff often  in a group debriefing sometimes one-on-one do you   have any thoughts on how i can help a healthcare  provider who feels that the patient patient should   not choose medical assistance and dying and their  co-workers are seeing it as a peaceful empowered
            • 65:00 - 65:30 ending the person finalizes by saying i recognize  my own bias halfway through the debriefing   of feeling people should have the choice and i  realized that the care provider was against it yeah that's uh it's going to it's it's a growing new issue but  it's an issue not just with medical assistance   and dying it has it comes up with someone is  choosing uh abortion has come someone and there
            • 65:30 - 66:00 are a lot multiple ways in which someone's  personal religious beliefs might conflict   and so that particular issue has to be dealt  with early and often so that we know as much   as possible our own stuff and recognize that if we  are having strong feelings about a certain topic   and we can think about it in ourself and oh this  is tied into some deeper parts of my own story or
            • 66:00 - 66:30 my belief or my faith tradition i am going to not  be able to be unbiased and that's okay no human   being is unbiased we all have biases being aware  of our bias is super important so that we can try   to either make referrals to other people i know  that this is going to cause me to maybe be so
            • 66:30 - 67:00 emotionally reactive that i might cause harm  and the first step is not causing harm i might   influence that person's decision so there's  like certain fundamental social work practice   components or um beliefs right one is  the client's right to self-determination   to the extent that it we want to encourage people  to make choices that are aligned with the law
            • 67:00 - 67:30 and so now that medical assistance and  dying is aligned with the law even if we   may not agree with it we have an obligation  of social workers to do the best we can to   either do no harm and help them achieve it or  make a referral now that is harder when it comes   to those areas in rural communities  where you can't make a referral
            • 67:30 - 68:00 that's where being as self-aware as possible  and focused on doing no harm is more important   than ever because of the ways in which  unintentionally we might communicate something yeah absolutely i so wish we could get to all  of them i'm sorry if we didn't but we are over   time now so we will have to end this webcast i am  just going to quickly put a link in the chat here
            • 68:00 - 68:30 for um the casw hosted spirituality and social  work webinars for some reason i'm not seeing my   chat come up so if i did that twice my apologies  um but if you do go to the cisw continuing   education page and type spirituality and social  work uh there will be a list of different options   uh and different trainings and and we will i'm  sure be doing more content of this with nadia
            • 68:30 - 69:00 i can i can see it already down down the line um  your certificate of attendance will be emailed to   you so check your email about an hour after  this presentation is concluded feel free to   check your junk folders as well if you don't see  it log back on through the same link you did to   get on right now if you want to download  the certificate from the platform itself   um take a peek at cisw's upcoming webinars that  we're going to be putting up on the continuing   education page for the spring uh we'd love  to see you and have you register for those
            • 69:00 - 69:30 uh and also just feel free to go back and watch  part one and part two of this of this series um   nadia thank you so much for your time for your  expertise there's so much that goes on behind   the scenes that people don't know uh when it  comes to actually coming live to you today   uh so just a huge shout out to nadia and the  work that has been put in to host this series   with the nova scotia college daddy any final  thoughts before we log off today yeah i mean the   one thing that i i didn't mention i mentioned in  our first session is the importance of self-care
            • 69:30 - 70:00 so when we think about and my first session  in may was about the ethics of burnout   and how we want to make sure that we don't  burn out spirituality and religious practice   can be really helpful for practitioners to  not burn out and the less we burn out the   less likely we are to let our biases get the best  of us the more likely we are to be conscious and
            • 70:00 - 70:30 intentional about what we're doing and saying  and if we accidentally say something the more   likely we are to be aware of it catch it and  say wow you know i said this because i'm part   of this dominant culture but i didn't mean to say  that it just popped out because dominant culture   dominant language how did that make you feel and  just bringing that out again grist for the mill   that's the beauty of doing social work is  everything is an opportunity to dive in and
            • 70:30 - 71:00 if we own it and are aware of it but we want  to make sure we take care of ourselves as much   as possible and if there are spiritual practices  and religious practices that we that help us have   a sense of meaning and purpose so that we don't  burn out then that's another really important part   of integrating spirituality into social work  it's about how do we stay focused in our own
            • 71:00 - 71:30 values align what we do with social work code of  ethics and standards of practice and then help   our clients access the things that are meaningful  to them which may or may not be meaningful to us wonderful yeah that's such a good point  and going into this time if you are taking   time off be it holidays be it  time for rest and recuperation
            • 71:30 - 72:00 whatever it is in the next coming weeks i do  hope you take some time for yourself to recharge   um this is the end of the year uh this  calendar year uh and it is a time to really   remember that we have been through some  unimaginable circumstances in the past couple   years and that if we are feeling burnt out and  tired that is valid and that is okay um and if   we are starting to feel like it is implicating  our practice i would go check out that ethics
            • 72:00 - 72:30 of burnout webinar that nadia also hosted it is  phenomenal and just to take some time for you and   for yourself um i highly highly recommend that  march is going to be national social work month   so we will be doing some stuff around self-care  some stuff around burnout hopefully some stuff to   support all of you but please please take care  i believe this is the last webinar i will be   doing before the new year so just thank you thank  you so much for coming for continuing to show up   for your questions for your insight for your  knowledge i feel so grateful and so much gratitude
            • 72:30 - 73:00 to be able to share this space with all of you i  hope you take some time in the next couple weeks   and i hope you understand how valued how highly  educated highly skilled and highly trained social   workers in canada are and just from the bottom  of my heart and from the bottom of cisw's heart   thank you for what you are doing uh thank you for  the work that you are doing for your clients and   for your communities and please take care  of yourself amen yes okay nadia i will see
            • 73:00 - 73:30 you soon thank you everyone thank you thank you  thank you i hope we chat soon and see you soon you