Stargate, mRNA, And The Internet of Bio-Nano Things

Summary

Highlights

• Panelists were skeptical about the broader implications of the Stargate initiative, viewing it as a potential control mechanism. 💡
• Discussion highlighted the overlap between mRNA technology and the Internet of Bio-Nano Things, warning of privacy invasions. 🔗
• Concerns were raised about the intersection of digital IDs, central bank control, and privacy erosion in modern governance. 🏦
• The concept of transhumanism was explored, particularly how mRNA could spearhead genetic modifications. 🤖
• The role of Elon Musk and other tech leaders in shaping this future was debated, with mixed opinions. 🤨

Key Takeaways

• The Stargate initiative is raising alarm bells as it intertwines with mRNA technology and AI, potentially paving the way for extensive surveillance. 🚨
• mRNA vaccines, while promising in medical advances, come with concerns about privacy and control, especially in the context of a digital ID system. 💉
• The Internet of Bio-Nano Things hints at a future where our biology is interconnected with the digital realm, raising questions about consent and agency. 🤔
• The trend towards digital control grids suggests a shift from traditional governance to a tech-driven, data-centric power structure. 🔄
• Vigilance and transparency are crucial as these technological advancements accelerate, impacting both personal freedoms and global dynamics. 🔍

Overview

Chapters

• 00:00 - 00:30: Introduction and Overview The chapter titled 'Introduction and Overview' likely sets the stage for the rest of the document by providing essential background information, outlining the main topics to be covered, and explaining the purpose and objectives of the text. As the title suggests, this introduction would aim to prepare the reader for the detailed discussions in subsequent chapters. Typically, such a chapter might also include an overview of the structure of the document, introducing the key concepts and terms that will be explored, and possibly addressing the intended audience and any prerequisites needed to understand the material.
• 00:30 - 02:00: Discussion of Stargate Project This chapter opens with a statement from the Independent Media Alliance (IMA) regarding a significant discussion topic: the Stargate Project. The discussion is introduced as crucial, with the acknowledgment that it has been a recurrent subject across various media channels. The interaction aims to explore the public and obvious intersections of the Stargate Project, laying the groundwork for a deeper analysis and understanding.
• 02:00 - 03:30: mRNA Technology and Internet of Things This chapter discusses the intersection of mRNA technology, artificial intelligence, and the Internet of Things (IoT). It highlights the development of mRNA cancer vaccines and the technological platform being built around it. The discussion includes prominent figures like Elon Musk who are thought to be involved in these advancements. The chapter distinguishes between the 'Internet of Bodies' and the general IoT, noting the implications of having everyday devices, even refrigerators, connected to the internet. It raises concerns about privacy and the broader impact of integrating these technologies.
• 03:30 - 05:00: Concerns on Technocracy and Internet of Nano Things The chapter discusses the concept of technocracy and the Internet of Nano Things (IoNT). It highlights the integration of interconnected devices on or within the human body, which forms the IoNT. The chapter suggests that discussions around the IoNT have been ongoing for a long time, yet it remains a focal point in leading scientific discussions despite not being prominently featured in broader societal conversations. The chapter also hints at skepticism regarding the IoNT, suggesting that some discussions might be strategic ploys rather than substantive discussions.
• 05:00 - 06:00: Digital IDs and Control Grids The chapter titled 'Digital IDs and Control Grids' discusses the alarming convergence of nanotechnology with the internet, particularly focusing on its integration into the human body and environment. DARPA's involvement and its links with the Trump Administration are emphasized. The discussion aims to unravel the implications, potential concerns, and future trajectories of this interconnection. Key participants in the discourse are Ivor, Steve, Derek, and Katherine, who aim to provide insight into these critical developments.
• 06:00 - 07:30: Monetary Systems and Data Centers The chapter begins with a discussion led by Katherine, who is asked to voice her concerns about the current situation and the direction it is headed. When Katherine starts talking, she is momentarily muted, a small but relatable technical hiccup in virtual interactions. She observes that the new administration is actively responding to necessary fundamental changes. A significant part of these changes involves phasing out outdated tools, though the specifics of these tools and changes are not detailed within the transcript provided.
• 07:30 - 09:00: Surveillance and Social Credit Systems The chapter discusses the concept of building a 'control grid' as part of a larger system of surveillance and social credit. The speakers reflect on previous conversations regarding the establishment of such systems. They identify four key elements necessary for constructing a comprehensive control grid, with an emphasis on the first two: digital IDs and an unspecified second element that is beginning to take shape. Details on the other two elements are likely discussed further in the chapter.
• 09:00 - 10:00: Geopolitical Concerns and Technological Control The chapter discusses the control of fiscal policies by central banks instead of elected representatives such as Congress. It proposes the creation of an all-digital monetary system, which requires a digital ID and extensive data capabilities. The chapter introduces 'Stargate,' a project entailing the investment of 500 billion dollars in data centers nationwide. These centers would provide the necessary energy and data processing capacity essential for implementing the digital infrastructure. The chapter highlights the initial announcement of this ambitious project.
• 10:00 - 10:30: Media Manipulation and Public Perception The chapter discusses the new administration's involvement with mRNA technology, highlighting concerns about its toxicity and dangers to humans. Additionally, it mentions the president's announcement of the Stargate initiative and Purdue University's launch of its Center for the Internet of Bodies. A significant question raised is the possibility of mRNA technologies being used to inject nanoparticles to connect humans to technological networks.
• 10:30 - 12:00: Critique of Technocracy and Transhumanism The chapter discusses the ongoing concerns about technocracy and transhumanism, particularly focusing on how these concepts are being implemented in society. There is a specific critique on the surveillance and control mechanisms that are increasingly becoming invasive. The narrative also highlights the mysterious components found in various societal aspects such as injections, spraying, and food. These are seen as part of a broader strategy to monitor and influence the population. The integration of these mechanisms with financial transaction control is also mentioned as part of the critique.
• 12:00 - 13:30: Discussion on Cryptocurrency and Financial Control The chapter discusses the concept of a social credit system and its potential impact on financial control, particularly through the use of cryptocurrency. There is a concern that such a system could allow for selective activation or deactivation of people's financial transactions, similar to the hypothetical scenario during the pandemic where authorities could prevent individuals from spending on certain items or leaving their homes by disabling their financial means. The current Administration appears more focused on leveraging cryptocurrency for such control as opposed to central bank digital currencies (CBDC), which might offer distinct challenges and implications.
• 13:30 - 15:00: Solutions and Local Action The chapter discusses the potential dangers of Central Bank Digital Currencies (CBDCs) in comparison to private digital monetary systems. It highlights concerns about constitutional obligations and the risk of private, secret controls. The overarching theme is the rapid acceleration towards establishing a digital control grid, particularly in the United States.
• 15:00 - 16:30: Global Perspective and International Implications This chapter discusses the global repercussions of surveillance technologies, such as Starlink, and their potential impact on privacy. The narrative includes concerns over intensified surveillance through existing systems like the Five Eyes, and highlights the alarming trend of significant land and asset acquisition policies associated with these technologies. The discussion calls attention to the implications of such actions on an international scale.
• 16:30 - 18:00: Discussion on Political Figures and Technological Influence The chapter explores the shift from traditional imperialistic strategies to new tools of control, examining how these tactics influence geopolitical situations. There is a focus on land acquisitions and territorial disputes, particularly in locations such as Gaza, Ukraine, North Carolina, and Northern California. The speaker reflects on how these modern strategies, which prioritize asset seizure and control, contribute to ongoing conflicts and geopolitical tensions.
• 18:00 - 19:30: Digital Economy and Surveillance Concerns The chapter discusses the intersection of the digital economy and surveillance concerns, with a focus on a recent article about Gaza. The conversation explores Gaza being viewed as a technate, a term used to describe a society governed or heavily influenced by technical experts. The discussion also touches on the overlap of this situation with land grabs and hints at the implications of neuroscience in these dynamics. Furthermore, the chapter transitions into thoughts on the role of Stargate and the collaboration between Trump and technocrats, as analyzed in a recent article by one of the participants.
• 19:30 - 21:00: Reflection on Media Narratives and Public Awareness This chapter delves into the influential role of media narratives in shaping public awareness. It discusses topics such as advancements in medical technology, including mRNA and its potential for cancer cures. The chapter highlights the growing public interest in Larry Ellison, co-founder of Oracle Corporation, examining his historical and ongoing connections to intelligence agencies like the CIA. Discussed are his advocacy for a biometric security state following the events of 9/11, as well as his continued involvement in similar discussions as recently as six months ago.
• 21:00 - 21:30: Conclusion and Call to Action In the Conclusion and Call to Action chapter, a discussion takes place about the implications of facial recognition and AI for societal behavior. The speakers touch upon the identities and motivations of the individuals involved in these technologies. There's a mention of resources and links being shared in the chat for instant access by participants. Additionally, there's a brief anecdote reminding the audience of President Biden's 'moonshot' initiative, which aims at using advanced technologies, potentially mentioned as 'mr&n' or 'Mna', to combat cancer. This chapter serves as a reflective and engaging call to action, urging the audience to consider the transformative role of these technologies and initiatives.

Stargate, mRNA, And The Internet of Bio-Nano Things Transcription

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• 00:30 - 01:00 all right welcome back to another IMA panel The Independent Media Alliance we're here today to discuss a a very important conversation something that you guys pretty much on every one of our channels have seen conversations about and this is the larger point is around the Stargate project how that intersects as you know publicly and obviously with
• 01:00 - 01:30 the MRNA cancer shot and the platform that that's going to build on top of everything else the overlap with artificial intelligence and the many different characters we can get into that are aligned along that not not even including Elon Musk which I clearly think is involved in all this but the the main point is the intersection between all of that and something we've been talking about which is the internet of bodies the internet of things which are technically two separate Concepts one meaning your refrigerator and your devices being connected to the internet which is alarming and of itself in my opinion then you've got the internet of
• 01:30 - 02:00 bodies which is talking about the somewhat devices that are on your body or interconnected in some way then you've got the something called the internet of Nano things and this is the what's interesting about this and I've got some videos queued up we'll talk about today this is where it's been for a long time at least the conversation and I think we should partly discuss whether some of this might be like a ploy or F or not actually there there's a lot of that in the conversation as well but that this is the focal point of a lot of the leading science and conversation and yet it doesn't seem to be a part of much of the conversation at
• 02:00 - 02:30 all it's kind of alarming in its own right and that becomes the overlap of nanot Technology having an interconnection to the internet and being internal in your body flowing through your bloodstream or floating through the air and landing on your skin and these are very real conversations DARPA being a main part of this conversation which is interconnected with much of Trump's Administration So today we're going to be talking about how all this connects and our concerns and where it may be going so thank you all for being here today with uh Ivor Steve Derek and Katherine here to discuss
• 02:30 - 03:00 the alarm the the concerns we have for all of this so Katherine if you'd like to start it off with you know what you were concerned about and where you see this going oh you're muted Katherine oh Katherine you're muted what we're watching with the new Administration is is they're responding to a series of changes that need to fundamental changes that need to be made but one of the things they're doing is they're getting rid of the old tools of
• 03:00 - 03:30 Empire and building new tools and that includes taking the next steps and building the control grid and Chris uh Ryan you and I talked about this before the um election and and that is there there are four things that need to happen if you're going to build a complete control grid of the kind that we've been hearing about for the last couple years one is you need digital IDs and we see them certainly forging head with that the second is you need the um
• 03:30 - 04:00 the fiscal side of the house to be controlled by the central Bankers not by the Congress and the people's Representatives the third thing you need is you need an all digital monetary system now a digital ID and a digital monetary system need extraordinary data capacity and that's where Stargate comes in which is the funding of 500 uh billion dollars of data centers all over the country and the energy capacity you need to do those and and we see that as the one of the first announcements of
• 04:00 - 04:30 the new Administration and that included mRNA technology which we know is very toxic and dangerous for humans um interestingly enough when the president announced the Stargate initiative uh Purdue University announced its center for the internet of bodies and of course one of the big questions on mRNA technology is to what extent is it part of of injecting into our bodies nanop particles of the kind that would help hook you up on the
• 04:30 - 05:00 internet and we've seen you know if you come to the salary report for years we've been covering the mysterious ingredients in the injections the mysterious ingredients in the spraying the mysterious ingredients in the food this has been going on for a while but um we are seeing a move to literally invasively track surveil control and influence um the population and of course if that can be integrated with financial transaction control and a
• 05:00 - 05:30 social credit system then we're seeing the ability to turn on and turn off people's payments in a way that you know for example during the pandemic if if they had that system in place that if they don't want you leaving your house your money or your car won't you know your electricity and your your money won't work or if they don't want you buying Pizza you you know your credit card won't buy pizza so again um this Administration seems much more intent on doing it with crypto rather than a cbdc which in many respects is even more
• 05:30 - 06:00 dangerous than a cbdc the cbdc If the Fed does it then they still have constitutional obligations to the Congress if private infrastructure does it with you know an all digital monetary system then you've got private and secret controls but either way it's you know it's something that we don't want to live with so what we're watching is a rapid uh accelerating move to Institute a digital control grid certainly in the United States
• 06:00 - 06:30 but with systems like starlink invasive surveillance all around the world which we've had for decades through 5is but this just makes it more intent and clearly um one of the things that's happening if you look at their policies is they're planning on very significant land and asset grabs along with it which is you know even more disturbing so I I would say what we're looking at is um you know and I I I I credit other people with saying this you know we're we're
• 06:30 - 07:00 cancelling the old tools of Empire and moving to New tools of control and of course that makes what's happening in Gaza or the genocide we've been seeing in the Ukraine even more disturbing because if you if you look at the land grabs currently under way whether it's abroad in the Ukraine or Gaza or in North Carolina or Lina or Northern California you know the the tools and tactics being used to Simply take assets is pretty scary yeah very much so and I do want to
• 07:00 - 07:30 get into that overlap in the points you made on that recent article about Gaza and the kind of central location like the kind of like the technate it seems and how they're all discussing this as well as the land grab overlap even some touching on like neuroscience and how you may think that will play in before we get to any of that though what are your guys' thoughts whoever would like to jump in next on where you see this going with Stargate and kind of the general picture I'll I'll jump in with some thoughts here uh Katherine already really outlined it very well but I'll point to the article that I wrote recently for Tav about Stargate and Trump partnering with thech technocrats
• 07:30 - 08:00 and mRNA and all the fun stuff the promises of cancer cures uh I think in the last week I know we've got that clip pulled up from Tim hinchliff more and more people are paying attention to who Larry Ellison is and his role at Oracle and you know we could talk about oracle's own connections to the CIA and uh contracts with them from the very beginning we could talk about Larry Ellison's 2002 New York Times oped only months after 911 calling for a biometric Security State to keep us safe from terrorists uh we could talk about him just six months ago at another event
• 08:00 - 08:30 saying facial recognition and AI will keep citizens on their best behavior Etc so we kind of have an understanding of who the people are behind it and what they're involved about with but I wanted to I'm going to drop these links in our chat if you can share them real quick Ryan I just remembered while we were sitting here talking about this that you some people out there might remember that Biden had launched something called the moonshot and there's those links if you want to put them up um this was a program by the Biden Administration talking about the same thing using mr& to fight cancer you know using Mna
• 08:30 - 09:00 vaccines and I'm sure I remember at the time I know Whitney talked about it I know we've reported on it and I'm sure there were some conservatives right-leaning folks Trump supporters who were like oh my God Biden's bringing about the MRNA cancer vaccines this is something we should be wary of and you know the the the amount isn't nearly the same I think it said it was like a couple hundred million or 24 million so still a lot of money but nowhere near the amount that Trump has been able to secure or is allegedly coming from Oracle and from open Ai and others
• 09:00 - 09:30 but nevertheless I just want to make that point that this is Trump is really in a way just kind of continuing and picking up a trend that the Biden Administration started with the moonshot MRNA cancer vaccine program I don't know if you remember this or not Derek but both Biden and Trump had like fake cancer Charities and both of them were exposed to be just giant money laundering operations that it's uh Biden's was because of his kid that you know um Bo I
• 09:30 - 10:00 think that was the one that that died from cancer because of exposure to burn pits in Iraq uh and then Trump had a fake cancer charity too uh so this is kind of an ongoing grift that has now merged with the Bro Liars the tech Bros uh shout out to Jason Basler for that one um and it's been uh the cover for it has been provided by the the people that I've been calling bro flakes because
• 10:00 - 10:30 they're not snowflakes anymore because Trump's in but it's the exact same mentality where there's a an inability to see past I don't know in this case I guess liberal tears and then um you're wind up cheerleading for an absolutely insane transhumanist ideology because you think you're winning and we see so much of that going on right now where people will just grab the pipe pack it full of
• 10:30 - 11:00 hopium take a big old hit and tell you that you know uh it's okay that all of the AI stuff is happening it's okay that the digital prison grid is being built out it's okay that we're entering into an era of the internet of Nano things be because you know we're winning yeah this is a oh go ahead go ahead I just want to add one more thing real quick brother um just about up to pick up on the thread which I do think is the larger kind of bigger broader long-term picture that people should be paying attention to that Katherine
• 11:00 - 11:30 alluded to and I know that we have in the title The Internet of bodies internet of things for those out there who still haven't uh you know the internet of things I think is the most basic level that's you know your house your smart TV all these sort of interconnected devices the next level has been for years CLA Schwab a lot of these organizations and technocrats have been saying well the next step is we're going to put the chips or whatever the RFID devices in our clothes and then eventually it'll be in our bodies uh that's what they call the internet of bodies and then there is the internet of uh bio Nano things which is what many
• 11:30 - 12:00 people have concerned about that there's graphine or other sort of material being placed you know either secretly or surreptitiously through the shots or other means spraying stuff like that in human bodies already or at least plans to do so very near in the near future and I just wanted to point out that the MRNA the whole thing does relate to that for those who went through the entire Co operation and didn't quite get that the MRNA the mod RNA that uh tab was reporting on is about trying to begin
• 12:00 - 12:30 that process of turning human beings into something Beyond just you know what we've been and and starting to begin that process of modifying and it's also leads of course into the transhumanist dream of genetically modifying humans in in different ways and I just wanted to point out that as a reminder for those who are still hanging on to Elon Musk train that musk was it was his company working with uh the German company curvac during covid to help make the MRNA injections and he said they were making little RNA a microfactories and
• 12:30 - 13:00 then also point to in 2020 musk was receiving something called the Alex Springer award and he was talking about how excited he is about synthetic AR mRNA and he said you can basically do anything with synthetic RNA DNA it's really like a computer program so I mean I think with enough effort you could probably stop aging reverse it if you want you can basically you can turn someone into a freaking butterfly if you want with the right DNA sequence so again this sort of language that we saw during Co about like the injections weren't just typical vacc it was a program that needs to be upgraded and
• 13:00 - 13:30 updated over time and this is kind of not only in terms of language but in real practice getting people used to this idea that the human organism is a is a type of software or computer program that can be upgraded and if we can get people to accept that then getting your latest booster or your latest update from the MRNA is not a big uh you know it's not a big step and if I could just add I try to track this all globally so it's not just it feels like America is spe heading um the
• 13:30 - 14:00 technocracy the algy but I'm tracking all the places that I used to live and that I still visit and it's going on you know down here in Mexico or you know many years ago I visited the the actual home of the head of Oracle in Mexico long story but uh you know oracles is they all have a deep presence here in Mexico uh Amazon is throwing in now billions with the data centers they're building in me in places like um Mexico I was at a Market Supermarket yesterday and for the first time I saw smart bulbs
• 14:00 - 14:30 you know in in in in the Mexican supermarket like I never saw those before so they want us to start buying this stuff as you say Derek install you know start start bringing online The Internet of Things I saw stories in Russia now Russia just developed uh protocols or regulations for Smart Homes so like in Russia now they're developing these regulations and kazakstan where I used to live now um they're bringing in the ability to block your smartphone if you if you don't you know register correctly and so this is really a a global thing that I think the West is
• 14:30 - 15:00 spear heading U and to Steve's Point uh I'm getting some of my listeners tell me I've I've made a meme out of it they tell me your your pessimism is unbearable uh and I think you you mentioned Laurel Canyon 2.0 Steve which I think is great amazing Paulie um brought up the other day she started making videos again she said podcasters are probably now paid by the regime I guess we won't name names we we we know who uh they got all that all get all the big um attention but they're just just promoting the this regime propaganda and
• 15:00 - 15:30 I think some people just they're like soldiers in the World War I trench who just can't take the bombing anymore and they need some good news and I think we're just looking at things factually so you know I now we've got brought this up of course it's all this is something that's circulating around these conversations it's impossible not to touch on but you know like like Derrick brought up and to touch on everything we're saying here I think it's a really important thing like what you just hit on there is really important I don't it's important I think not to make this all about like 's willingly deceiving
• 15:30 - 16:00 everybody else I know we all know there's a huge part of that but I think there's a lot of people out there that are either willfully ignorant and unaware of that like they they think that they you know it's like it's an uncomfort it's like cognitive dissonance right people box it out or some people that just don't realize they're being played but like Derek said or all of us pointed out like this kind of conversation it's incredible to think that we can't acknowledge that this is you know obviously something that all of us were calling out and Republicans primarily going Biden that's bad we can't do that and now the same thing's happening and those people a lot of those same people aren't it out like that's a very obvious contradiction my
• 16:00 - 16:30 the point I'm making though to back go off what all you're saying is that there is a huge sentiment in this that is about how somehow we're over fixating on negatives which is I'm sure that's out there but what's crazy is a lot of us I mean we're going out of our way especially the people in this group are going out of our way to make it a fact-based investigatory Direction and we are considering other things and and what's funny about it is almost as if we want the bad things and I'm willing to bet everybody here would be want more than anything for the for what they're claiming is the reality to be the case
• 16:30 - 17:00 because that would be good for everybody so it's like this interesting Dynamic where they're projecting almost what they're it's I it's hard to frame but I think the truth is that we're trying to break this down based on the facts and presenting what we think we can see holding out until we can see the outcome and that's somehow being claimed blackpilled and I think that's important to highlight but we can see these problems and it's the same problems were been called out in a previous Democrat Administration go ahead Catherine right so so I think everybody here is holding out Solutions so exactly you know one of the most important things about
• 17:00 - 17:30 Solutions so I know dereck's been doing the reset you know we've been doing sort of what the states can do everybody's been putting out a ton of solutions the the tragedy we see is so much energy gets gets spent on dead end Solutions and not on real solutions and it's remarkable where real solutions pick up and go viral um how much gets done and that's why so much effort is spent to encourage people into dead end
• 17:30 - 18:00 Solutions and that's why you know if you think about how you explain to people that that you know the Trump Administration is just leading them into the control grid um you do want to give them real solutions so but I I think we're doing that and I do think you have to constantly balance it because here's what's happening so so let me use mRNA technology as an example in this summer early summer of 2020 so the covid the
• 18:00 - 18:30 first covid injections hit in December 2020 and really came out January 2021 if you if you look at the MRNA technology I get a business newsletter which I find to be very accurate and in the early I think it was early summer of 2020 but it was early in 2020 long before the covid injections had come out um you know Trump did his vaccine executive order in 2019 the end of 2019
• 18:30 - 19:00 and then I forget when he put in the big orders but it would have been after the first orders went in so in the summer the newsletter comes out and says after the covid injection they're going to roll out vaccines mRNA vaccines for all these different um kinds of diseases and it was clear from the diseases they were listing that they were the Adverse Events from the covid injection and you realize what a fabulous business model because the more you poison people the
• 19:00 - 19:30 more you give them more poison is the solution and round you round you go you just keep doubling down on the profits and what the newsletter said was investors and remember this is summer 2020 expect to make a great deal of money on mRNA technology and so they were planning even then on huge investment and huge profits in mRNA technology that was going to go on for a long long time well then in 2021 I
• 19:30 - 20:00 started to hear from investors around the world that they were being approached with major private placements to do Mega vaccine factories in all their different regions of the world and so you had Mega vaccine factories for mRNA vaccines coming up all over the world and and investors were being promised huge profits on the notion that we were going into world of biowarfare and these vaccines were going to save their populations from being killed and you
• 20:00 - 20:30 needed to be able to make vaccines lots of them very quickly in response to you know rolling pandemics from here on out and so when we look at this infrastructure or look at the president bringing up the Stargate initiative this is something that started with the going direct reset which is the reset that started in 2019 and it's going on and on and on and on and we're see simply seeing the roll out you know it's what what you said you
• 20:30 - 21:00 know this is going on globally and it's rolling out and it's a much deeper longer you know plan than anything to do with one single Administration yeah absolutely and I think that's the important part of it is that it it's it's getting couched in a partial conversation and this is this is what I think all I get kind of I hopefully end on this larger point I think we're all calling out the the Sol the good things happening as well as the bad things but simply going look if you're only going to couch this unlike
• 21:00 - 21:30 only this Administration it's just not true and we can easily prove that and then that that becomes you're just riging on the parade and so it's very clear that this is a long span like the continuity of this project is very clear uh welcoming Mark Goodwin to the conversation thanks for joining brother good to see you hey everybody nice to be here thanks for having me Hi C hi guys I want to pick up right there where Catherine was uh just say for one just to reiterate uh to anyone hearing this who does still hold out this view that anybody here is somehow blackpilled or
• 21:30 - 22:00 just negative whatever um I I just to reiterate I think everybody here has various ideas on what Solutions are they might not be the same and they come in different forms but the key there of what Katherine said is that we are not focused on promoting what we believe our dead end Solutions which is following Trump just blindly or following anybody blindly or just trusting that politics alone is going to fix things so I just wanted to reiterate that and thank you Katherine for The Mention Of The People's reset and I just hope people out there who who hear these talks with the IMA and just our individual content
• 22:00 - 22:30 we're putting out there recognize that it's not that we are we think I'll speak for myself it's not that I think things are hopeless or there are no Solutions it's just that I don't think trying the same old thing over and over and just hope you know putting your your hopeing these people is is going to get you anywhere in fact this morning I was just posting to my social media we saw just yesterday RFK officially got confirmed and I noticed that during his hearings he said that he stood by and believed the childhood vac schedule was a positive thing he also said that you
• 22:30 - 23:00 know he generally supports the shots he just wants good science and then in another section he praised operation warp speed as an extraordinary accomplishment from Donald Trump which obviously we know he did some great work over the years at CHD and elsewhere calling out those very things and every time I point this out I'm basically again being called blackpilled and people are saying he just needs to say whatever to get into office that's how the game is Play It's you have to lie and do this if he was real or stood on the truth he would never get in there and my argument has basically been he was never going to get support from
• 23:00 - 23:30 certain Democrats anyway so trying to cow out to like okay I'm I'm I'm not as Extreme as you guys think I am isn't in my view a winning strategy I think we should stand on principle and Truth when we have it others call me idealistic or you know naive or whatever but I I just want to point out that I think winning in their terms or winning on their field if it involves having to compromise yourself I don't personally see that as a win and of course I am skeptical and hesitant about what's going to come with RFK in relation to the mr& shots I wouldn't be surprised if we end up seeing him praise them I mean Trump we
• 23:30 - 24:00 just we started the conversation talking about Stargate uh and as I mentioned this is a picking up from what the Biden Administration was doing with the moonshot program I wouldn't be surprised in the coming weeks or months or years if we end up seeing RFK praising mRNA vaccines uh and in the other thing I want to just mention on that whole black pill term I I do think this is the new conspiracy theorist whether it's being seated by intelligence agencies or just people who are picking it up on the internet this new term that as soon as you hear it in the same way conspiracy theorist was meant to dism Miss people okay this is a crazy person not to be
• 24:00 - 24:30 taken seriously Etc now in the sort of broader truth Freedom Community when somebody hears oh don't listen to them they're just blackpilled it's meant to send a signal or message of this person has nothing worth hearing this person is just negative don't actually look at the DAT of they're sharing just dismiss them out of hand and I think that's a dangerous place that Derek I said the exact same thing I think Tuesday when when Ryan's on uh on am wake up it's this the people who had been called a
• 24:30 - 25:00 conspiracy theorist for the last four or five years especially because they were rightfully calling out you know the transhumanist ideology on the left and all of the covid nonsense know that they can't weaponize conspiracy theorist as an insult anymore so they have to find a new word that word is blackpilled and I I don't I think all of us have gone pretty deep in the paint over the last several years exposing the scop that the black pill is in general you know that
• 25:00 - 25:30 whole Doomer mindset where well it's going to happen anyway so we can't do anything about it and what are you going to do might as well make a shekele or two off of it and that's exactly what's happening with the the people that I've called brl Flakes and and just to add I guess on the real quick you're talking about AR and Stargate which was a wonderful movie back in the day with Kurt Russell and I've been thinking of GAA recently because you know Larry Ellison he's um
• 25:30 - 26:00 thanks shout out to Tim hinchliff who's sitting through all of these long we meetings and isn't it funny how they changed World Government Summit the name to World governments Summit to be less obvious and um all of these clips and Ellison is saying now um I used that Meme from that video game in the 80s all your bases are belong to us and he's basically now coming out and saying all your databases are belong to us and Blair of course and they it's it's
• 26:00 - 26:30 they're aggressively pushing to put our health and DNA data onto one database and I think there's you know maybe to get people's thoughts on that I think one of the purposes is these guys are transhumanists and they believe that they can live forever I don't think that is possible at All Tech with with whatever technology and so they need our data to tr try to um get information on uh to put into their you know formulas to see if they can get a solution to extend their lives but also I think for
• 26:30 - 27:00 gataka like in the movie to create a two a case system basically so people who will be injected um modified and it's social credit I think it's one of the final pieces to get our DNA sequenced for that social credit system so just turn to that I love GAA by the way what a good movie but definitely not a good look for the future I'm the both those are probably seated to to Prime us for where we are today sorry to be the conspiracy theorist but let's go ahead and before I get into some nanotech stuff that I want to connect on this Mark since you haven't you weren't here
• 27:00 - 27:30 to start any any kind of St overview thoughts on on Stargate artificial intelligence even like the cryptocurrency overlapped all this and the cbdc which Katherine referenced any thoughts to kick that off sure well well just right off the bat I think it's interesting you know the background of Ellison and and Oracle you know it literally started as project Oracle which was you know under the the umbrella of the CIA and then you know they incorporated as a private business and then their first you know customer was the CIA which
• 27:30 - 28:00 seems to be sort of a running theme with these you know huge data Brokers like pal Ander and you know even PayPal and um and so you know there's that again that that movement into the private sector always is is a is uh it's it's an interesting Dynamic to note because they run that Playbook quite a few times and Ellison too interestingly enough you know wrote this very disturbing essay right after 911 I believe it was an oped in the New York Times and he talked about how well if we had a big database
• 28:00 - 28:30 of everybody's information we could have prevented this thing it's like okay sure sure we could have why is the answer to all of this stuff always digital IDs and databases of of of Citizen data why is that always the dialectic outcome that you know that that they you know push it's the answer whether it's you know the Trump technocracy or you know 2001 Patriot Act stuff so they run these playbooks a lot and so us Doom pillars as as we watch it over and over again
• 28:30 - 29:00 and you know and I'm I'm younger I'm I'm relatively new to The Independent Media scene you guys have been holding it down for for a bit longer and I'm sure I've noticed the Cycles you know the Cycles are compressing and getting quicker and quicker um and uh I think it makes our job easier to be like hey six months ago they were saying this now they're saying this um you know it does make it easier when you're not working on decades long um you know phase shifts quickened I just want to jump in and
• 29:00 - 29:30 point out if you read uh people who are working with the AI you know the thing that builds the greatest AI is not the smartest software developers it's the guy who has the most data and so if you're trying to compete with China you want as much data as possible so I'm assuming one of the things that doge is doing is they're hooking up all the government data I mean it's a treasure toe of data they've already said that somehow hooking it up with the AI yeah and and there are various reasons
• 29:30 - 30:00 to do that but AI is a um is a it's like a data vacuum cleaner and and you know part of the game is keeping the Chinese from getting our data but the other is getting your AI to get access to the most data possible I that's it's that's really it's by the way just to reiterate that that's something that I've already seen kind of floated out and it's already there was even a daily beach article surprisingly enough talking about the elite uh recording of them discussing how you know it was going by
• 30:00 - 30:30 consolidating all of the different logins from all the different locations and to make it easier and the main point was like I'm pretty sure that's against the law and the Privacy Act he's like well we'll figure it out we're gonna start it anyway that was the and it was leaked so he didn't think that would come out but that that's definitely what it's about and the whole point is using AI to make it more efficient Derek recently pointed out in an article the whole efficiency movement is a precursor to technocracy you know it's it's really hard to miss all these overlaps I'd like to comment quickly on what can I just insert one thing Ryan yeah so uh one of my favorite new Solutions and I have to
• 30:30 - 31:00 look more into it some of you may know more about it the Swiss are putting forward there's a group collecting the petitions now to put forward a referendum to the Swiss government that a Swiss citizen has the right to live a non-digital life nice that's fantastic anyway so I'll try and find out more about it and publish about it but yeah let me know on that well that's just great to see you know and this is like the point you made the past Katherine and I think it's important not to forget is you know I'm a huge example of how this you know I I have a hard
• 31:00 - 31:30 time trusting anybody in government in any form because I mean we have very clear history to back why that's a good you know thought but it's never good to make it a broad stroke your point right there is that I i' still always point out maybe it's just that they see an opportunity in doing it that way because everyone else is going the wrong direction but it's nice to see that there's still somebody in a position of power who's making what appear to be right choices but I was going to say really quickly about the cycle I that's fascinating to me because I see it going both ways right where we can see that it's gotten so rapid to where it's easier to kind of go time out like like
• 31:30 - 32:00 what we just did here's Biden in January of this year going cancer shots Mr and they're like bad bad bad now you know it's interesting it's very easy to see but at the same time it almost makes it impossible to catch everybody because by the time that gets into they 14 stories down the road and some new drone fog you know whatever the next thing Elon Musk is jamming 45 times a day on Twitter you know it's it's interesting but it it's it's a mixed bag you know and I to me what that represents is this kind of Rapid push to get us so kind of just like flow we don't know what to look at
• 32:00 - 32:30 what's going on and we wake up inside of what what's being built we're in a period of acceleration and inversion yeah right and it it takes the opposite Administration to put forward the concepts that the previous administration would get righteous and correct push back for right and we can you know that we've got examples of this all over the place my favorite one is NAFTA that was a George HW Bush program
• 32:30 - 33:00 that got stomped out by the Democrats because they were like why are you selling out American manufacturing and then uh Bill Clinton got into office and they were like hey I can't wait until we sell out American manufacturing you know and we've done this over and over and over Joe Biden wrote The Patriot Act it was the Omnibus crime bill in 1995 but you know Joe Biden was one of the co-authors of that no way in hell it
• 33:00 - 33:30 was going through under Bill Clinton but as soon as 911 happened and George W Bush was in office all of the sudden we have the Patriot Act then this happens over and over Donald Trump banned bump stocks that Barack Obama allowed for open carry in National Parks it's just it's so clearly uh in version and I think that
• 33:30 - 34:00 it's it definitely incumbent and I'm I know I'm preaching the choir here I really do but like it's you know incumbent on us to to call this out as we see it and as it comes down the line uh but it's getting increasingly more difficult to do that because of the algorithmic censorship that we all face the the uh the kind of like inverted Hy that most of the mainstream alternative
• 34:00 - 34:30 media seems to be operating on and uh and so I'm I'm very very grateful uh for everybody that that's here today and everybody that's in the The Independent Media Alliance because it really does represent the push back on all of this acceleration inversion and Insanity yeah no I think that's important stuff to make sure people just because we're all on the same page doesn't mean anybody else is you know thinking about it that way and so I'd like to to bring this
• 34:30 - 35:00 back to kind of the main focal point what you're saying though is important because again I really do think that what that is and this we saw the same thing during the covid-19 Mania which I felt was just as rushed and I that's I think what we're seeing is this is interconnected as Katherine was talking about is that this is all about getting everybody you know just kind of all confused and and basically falling back called Shock and all exactly shock and all we I mean we've been doing it all around the world while we've plundered assets and and one of the reasons you you know everything that doge is doing
• 35:00 - 35:30 could be done perfectly lawful and it could be done Speedy know you can do neurosurgery with a scalpel instead of a chainsaw so so this has nothing to do with not you know they can cancel all the corrupt stuff they can do it lawfully you know so so it doesn't have to be done this way the reason you do it chaotically is because you want to put people in shock and awe and it's a if you we just did a great interview with Richard waron on on case studies of of basically capitalism around the world and when you want to plunder assets the
• 35:30 - 36:00 first thing you do is you you put everybody in shock so they're doing shock and a yeah I well and I think it's important too for for folks that you know theoretically you know are on the Vanguard of understanding what's going on it's like I don't know I look at Co stuff I didn't know that going direct happened you know you know I I feel like I'm one of the most informed not in an arrogant way but it's just my well my job you know to be very informed about specific specifically how government policy affects macroeconomics and I
• 36:00 - 36:30 didn't find out about going direct until like 2022 until Titus and Katherine told me about it you know and and that's scary right and but what did I spend all my time researching you know I was living in the Bay Area and I spent my whole time re researching about mRNA and shedding and this and that and why why I can't go into a bar that I helped open and you know all this stuff that was going on you know I was distracted by the hypernormalisation the shock and awe the all these things and I was hyperfocused on this stuff and a lot of
• 36:30 - 37:00 that stuff that I was researching turned out to not be true also right even though I was sort of in the dissonant counter narrative that is also controlled too and also has a shock and awe to it so I spent my time when I should have been researching hey wow why did X trillion dollars go to Black Rock you know as the Petro dollar dies and oil Futures go negative and gold goes down to 1500 and Bitcoin goes to you know I noticed pretty pretty good I did okay but I there was still so much that I missed that this stuff happened the
• 37:00 - 37:30 the repo market failure in in August 2019 you know the going direct money manager think and Trump stuff like I missed a lot of that in in the moment and it's like it's good to admit that and tell people it's like hey even I got pulled into the counter and I was reading three hours a day about vaccine stuff and this and not to say that it's not important but I kind of missed the bigger plunder Capital play that happened and that was the point so even the most dissonant aware people can
• 37:30 - 38:00 still get distracted in the in the spin cycle in the shocka hyper normalization whatever you want to say um so you know if we get sucked into that stuff how does a quote unquote normies you know stand stand a chance you know it's this is a really good point though about how how the best manipulations use truth sometimes mostly truth and I think what you're talking about is not I mean it maybe not even call it deception but things that are like they're very obviously important to research and break down but as that was happening
• 38:00 - 38:30 there's another whole bigger layer like what Katherine highlighted that had been going on a very long time and this was one part of a much larger agenda and so it's just that that's kind of what we're all trying to highlight today in a larger way is that look there's a lot of things happening just you know just because it's not trending on Twitter does not mean it's not a major part of what's going on and I think that's a lot of the manipulation and that's again not to say that RFK being uh confirmed is not somewhat a good thing or that there's other things that happen that might be good or bad that means that that's everything that's happening it's a lot of multifaceted Dynamics and so to
• 38:30 - 39:00 to bring it back to the larger point today we're talking about like the Stargate artificial intelligence techn like the whole technocratic point being what most people aren't really seeing or at least we being shouted away from even talking about so if you guys any their comments I'd like to play a couple of things to kind of talk about this nanotech overlap I'm gonna just comment real quick Ryan because I gotta leave in just a few minutes but um just to pick up on the thread and then I'll add one other thing uh so I I started calling this as I think Steve said a moment ago the great inversion um in or late 2023
• 39:00 - 39:30 and I borrowed the phrase from another person but I do think that is in addition to the shock and all that everybody here is describing that the great inversion is just a handy way to kind of think about what's happening and on the most basic level it's just the passing of The Paton from left to right and back and forth that we've witnessed you know over decades at this point but it's obviously deeper than that because what people are being sold is that this is the Great Awakening this is the Golden Age of America we've won Trump's in office rfk's been appointed now
• 39:30 - 40:00 there's nothing else for us to do we just need to sit back and enjoy the show which is which is like a big one of the Q and on phrases is you know enjoy the show trust the planet Etc so that's what I think is to me most dangerous within the alternative Independent Media landscape truth Freedom Movement Health Freedom Movement even crypto Etc is that people are being sent this this line of thinking that says you don't have to actually be striving to create freedom and liberty in your own life anymore you have to actually take any steps to prepare yourself for the incoming
• 40:00 - 40:30 technocratic State because the good guys are now in control and everything is going to be taken care of and that to me is an extremely dangerous um mindset to be passing on to the audience and just really I think it's demoralizing they think right now it's something to celebrate and this is why we're all being called blackpilled because yeah you're pointing out negative things we're just trying to have our celebration of RFK or musk or Doge or us Aid being cut and even with that just a side note I think the whole us Aid story there's obviously some positive information coming out but it feels like
• 40:30 - 41:00 did people just discover USA did people just discover the foundations and the these organizations that I mean you can go back to uh gooood Griff Griffin who's you know legendary researcher and one of the people who's been around before most of us and he was one of the only journalists in the 1950s reporting on the Rees commission when they first pointed out the influence of the Ford foundation and these other organizations so in many ways what we're seeing this Grand reveal at least so far if you've been paying attention none of it's really that particular like like surprising so I just wanted to make that note and then before I I do
• 41:00 - 41:30 have to bounce um I don't want to change up the subject but I just want to mention this article that I just published at tab which was kind of picking up on some of the research that Whitney had just done in her latest article about Jim O'Neal uh the deputy secretary at HHS who you know the framing of her article and I think it's legitimate is that he might be in this position to stifle any potential good RFK may do you know you said Ryan there might be some good coming I have coming out of this I do have on good authority from my sources that there is going to be if not an executive order definitely
• 41:30 - 42:00 some action regarding water fluoridation and for those who followed my work I've been reporting on that trial the lawsuit for years now so obviously that's something I could get behind but at the end of the day the federal government doesn't control water fluoridation so at best RFK can just make a recommendation and the CDC will no longer recommend it that would be a positive step in you know a step in a positive direction for me personally that doesn't excuse the Zionism it doesn't excuse the appraising of operation warp speed and other things but nevertheless in this article I point out I think it's at at least 10
• 42:00 - 42:30 different people including JD Vance and Elon Musk uh David Sachs Howard lutnick Jim O'Neal Ken Howry Jacob hellberg Michael katos vivec ramaswami um of course Alex karp who's not officially in a position but is connected to teal through paler and a billberg steering committee member and just pointing out that these people are all in you know they're in Trump's cabinet now they've been nominated they've been approved for the most part or they're on the way to being approved and they all have either worked directly with Peter teal and I don't mean like they were his secretary 30 years ago or
• 42:30 - 43:00 they worked in some sort of small inconsequential position but deeply ingrained in his fellowships and his foundations in his investment firms and again what Mark was talking about the always the connections with the CIA and and all that fun stuff so I just want to point that out again like this is not being blackpilled to acknowledge that 10 years ago 12 years ago as one example I'll name a name Alex Jones Infowars would be calling out and raising you know the alarm Bell about the Bilderberg Group is
• 43:00 - 43:30 infiltrating the administration we you know if it was Obama if it was Bush or whatever but starting with the first Trump Administration H they went completely silent I did a video on this during the first Trump Administration showing how uh Trump had appointed Rick Perry who used to be governor of Texas where I'm originally from Rick Perry was a regular attendee of the Bilderberg Group and you can go back and find Infowars reports from 2011 and 2012 saying you know Texas governor Bilderberg you know freak out raising alarm Bells about it and then there's nothing reporting about it starting in
• 43:30 - 44:00 2016 and there's absolutely nothing on infow Wars right now about Peter Teal's influence him being a bill theber steering committee member or how many different people through him are connected to this sort of technocratic class and I think that to me it says a lot about some of this mainstream alternative media it's not black pill to call those things out it's just facts and we're just saying we should probably pay attention to these things dark Bros is where you're wrong because the globalists are are getting beaten by unelected Foreign billionaires and wait
• 44:00 - 44:30 a minute can we bring up the Epstein Network because I it's the exact same thing if you overlay what what Whitney and Mark have done on the epsy Network you know there was a ridiculous move to sort of attack Whitney over blackpill and that's when I said oh they are really afraid of the Epstein Network and they keep promising that the the Epstein list will come out when Patel goes into FBI so I'm curious to see whether
• 44:30 - 45:00 anybody thinks they really will let those lists out but see this is the this whole Administration looks like an Epstein yeah Client List Right does but the problem with that is that even and see this is what where you wait into the area that gets mostly called black bu is that we're talking about just skepticism which at what point do we stop being inherently skeptical against the power structure like because your side is I don't see as a skeptical so I worked in Washington for years and whenever I would go into a congressman's office the first thing I would ask is who owns his
• 45:00 - 45:30 control file you know that's lobbying 101 right but the pro the problem being is that ultimately it's right to ask these questions about whether or not if they're going to release that how do we possibly know that that's actually the full list how do we ever verify that or the JFK file they do it every time or how about with RFK Jr in the same in the same point let's say they do an EO and they get rid of all the floration or at least they and EO that says that's supposed to happen it's it's it's right
• 45:30 - 46:00 to point out that this has already been on the rapid decline Derrick's been breaking this down the Florida Action Network and so it's still what I as Derrick said too I'll say good I'm glad that's being stated but we have to recognize that these things are being presented in a way to almost pacify people and I get that that can be seen as you just don't want to be happy this is why always come back happen simultaneously that's what I was going to say go ahead so this is why I always come back to money because what I've said you know where I focused from the beginning of the or from the
• 46:00 - 46:30 inauguration on is Trump instituted the financial advisory standards or financial accounting uh standards Advisory Board statement 56 which was basically an administrative policy approved by Congress to take the US financials dark so that was a policy that basically made the US government and related contractors Financial statement secret now Doge and the president could reverse that at any
• 46:30 - 47:00 moment and they haven't even brought it up and they haven't mentioned it you know and it keeps not getting picked up no matter how many people put that out on the on the Internet or on social media it keeps not getting picked up the second thing is there's 21 trillion dollar missing as of 2015 before fby took the financial statement STK so let's assume the number if they just kept going is now maybe 36 trillion doge is saying they're looking to generate savings on the on the current
• 47:00 - 47:30 expenditures of $2 trillion well if you're if you're cutting current expenditures $2 trillion but you're not mentioning the fact that 21 trillion as of 2015 and missing is and more as of today is missing and you're not doing anything about that and you're keeping the US financial statement St then you're just not serious and that's simple you know because it's just pure math it's just money and math and canceling a few NGO contract at usaid doesn't touch it well
• 47:30 - 48:00 since since that got brought up and I agree that's and I've seen you bring this up more than once Katherine and it's clearly a s there's people in Trump's orbit elon's orbit that point that out and they just it just gets brushed over it's not a there's no partisan draw to it you know but what what I think is important there though is is the uh hold on I just gonna I just lost my thread there um shoot well go go ahead Catherine one thing I do want to point out is the the Epstein network was very critical in my opinion to helping launder and move all that money and you
• 48:00 - 48:30 know if you if you I've taken Whitney's books and and maap them up against sort of the different money moves and found amazing information for example I didn't know until I read her her books on Epstein that it was Bob Rubin who introduced Epstein to the clintons in 199 he took him over to the White House and I think and and there were scores of meetings Epstein going back to the White House and then as soon as Clinton left the um the administration you know
• 48:30 - 49:00 abstein and he got on a plane and started moving money around the world so so if we look in fact at how many people were deeply involved in the Epstein Network then who were in this Administration and are doing nothing to go find that 21 trillion dollar you know I have to presume that we're just looking at the next step of the going direct reset by the people who you know engineered the first few steps yeah and I to me the they didn't vote on the going direct reset until 2019 Mark
• 49:00 - 49:30 but they could never have done it if it hadn't been for fast B 56 is what I think 100% And you look at some of the parallels too of you know it it really is the same it's the same network it's the same players and it's the same Playbook and Steve brought up you know um NAFTA being this you know HW Bush plan and then Clinton implemented it well what what did Bobby what did uh Ruben do uh after he left treasury secretary and lets you know Summers come in and take
• 49:30 - 50:00 over he goes to to work for City and City takes over the biggest National Bank in in Mexico as the peso collapses and who and who you know shorts the peso down and makes billions of dollars it's this currency Speculator cabal that Epstein is a huge you know connected with it's Soros it's Lewis bacon it's Joe Lewis you know and these guys are all now directly connected to the modern version of this which is digital currency and they're all heavily connected with tether with Bitcoin with
• 50:00 - 50:30 ethereum with Peter teal um and you know like Lewis bacon and teal are doing EOS you know they're heavily connected with lutnick with with tether and lutnick you know is buying Mansions from Epstein now he's why are why is no one talking about that the guy who's running the the guy who's running treasury bessent is a 30-year Soros Lieutenant uh you know who's uh you know I don't care about this but an adopted uh he's a gay man with an adopted son
• 50:30 - 51:00 imagine the right if they or the left if if if Obama put in a 30-year Soros Lieutenant uh who's who's a gay man with an adopted son the right would never stop talking about that and yet no one person on the right can talk about it um never mind the Epstein connections but I think the digital currency thing coming up is sort of the new money laundering is this you know you got Trump making a meme coin that goes to 10 billion dollar you know the night before the inauguration it's like who needs BCCI
• 51:00 - 51:30 who needs Savings and Loans who needs you know the these uh well but don't you think that's pay to play of course you can't see Mone people who bought on the initial offering or secret right sure of course it's money so how is that not unless you prove to me that's not a PVE to play scheme you know putting money in Trump pocket for this and that how it should be one of the largest financial I mean much like the Doge takeover of
• 51:30 - 52:00 these paler meta interns coming in and getting all access to the treasury it should be one of the largest financial political scandals ever uh but everyone is so distracted and they're not paying attention while you know musk is saying hey maybe we could replace the Department of Education with uh meta's AI maybe we can you know replace some of these people with um you know algorithms and and you know we're going to be so efficient and make government smaller it's like no you're going to consolidate
• 52:00 - 52:30 and create funding mechanisms and create pay to plays where you know people that normally would never have any ability to legally on the record give Trump a billion dollars right can buy a billion dollars worth of liquidity of his pre-mine token or his wife's pre-mine token and and they get a billion dollars right in their wallet and the the taxpayers don't care the voters don't care because in I I always tell people we used to give people presidential cufflinks we never
• 52:30 - 53:00 gave them access to the treasury data and exchange for being the biggest donor so I want to engage before I have to leave I want to engage you guys in helping me stop what I think is going to be the big scheme can I make one point quickly before we move past what you guys were talking about because I I just want to interject is is that it's important to also note on that not just the cryptocurrency dynamic which is unaccountable nobody can see which is what you were talking about is that there's also foreign money flying in and many people including Trump himself have not fully signed the ethics pledges that are required by law that Trump put in in
• 53:00 - 53:30 his last Administration think about how Wild that is and so not you have foreign Dynamics which we can see like Mary mson well they fired the White House ethics guy that's what I mean there there's just it's zero accountability they're not even claiming to have anything people like uh many different people in his administration have not even signed these ethics pledges and the person involved with that Dynamic said publicly like I think it was Newsweek that cited him saying they could be funded by a foreign government we wouldn't even know it's like bing bing bing bing like exactly what I'm talking about and so I want people to think about that both with the crypto which let's note was
• 53:30 - 54:00 also pretty much a pump and dump which just completely collapsed a lot of these different things did I think that we're seeing the co-option of this country financially and with technocracy Zionism all these things at once I just want to make sure we point that out the ethics thing is really funny too just because you know when Yellen was coming in to you know brief the incoming Biden and Kamala Administration on the GameStop debacle you know she had she got an Ethics waiver because she had taken six figures from Citadel Securities the year before which is the parent uh company of
• 54:00 - 54:30 of Robin Hood which you know had had played you know had been naked Short Selling and so she's here coming in to brief the president and she had just been paid off by these people you know less than 18 months before but what's the point of Ethics at all if you could just get a waiver that just get a signature you know so the games even that they're playing of fake uh you know sort of um responsibility or or um you know I can't think of the word here but you know this what what should hold these people accountability uh you know
• 54:30 - 55:00 it's all it's all fugazi anyway when they can just get an Ethics waiver and get this and and as we digitize and move further into that world it's just going to get more more and more insane and obviously here here we are so sorry they're the good guys though right that's I want I want help okay so I'm asking for help here there have been several trial balloons on on two things that are sort of like a onew punch the first is um you mandate federal and
• 55:00 - 55:30 state purchases of Bitcoin so you can run the price way up the second is you use the Sovereign wealth fund to start swapping government land for Bitcoin so if you can run the price up than the you know the initial holders and I think you still got about 2% of the holders you've got about I don't know Mark is 70% too high of the outstanding big position sounds about right yeah something like that so so one of the things one of the
• 55:30 - 56:00 trial balloons was that you can do it secretly and taxfree and certainly if you do it in Opportunity zones it will be taxfree so if you can if you can mandate government purchases and and trust me if I man mandate government purchases of silly putty or Jello I can run the price to the Moon okay that's that's just how life works so so you mandate government price prices you you run the price of the Moon and then you swap out of your Bitcoin tax-free for
• 56:00 - 56:30 all the land and real estate and mineral resources of the federal government and you're watching David Sax's crypto group looking at the quote unquote mandated government purchases you've got Howard lutnick and bassan doing the Sovereign wealth fund and that's where I think they'll do the land deals is that also foreign policy Katherine so that is that is that also being used in foreign policy like for other countries to say here's cryptocurrency value for your
• 56:30 - 57:00 asset it could be because they're trying to get the mandates going all over the place I don't know if they can get the taxfree going all over the place but he IRS you know what I smell is a desire to pick that land up and pick it up cheap and I'm grossly oversimplifying but I think that one thing that the Independent Media Alliance is perfectly positioned to do is bring transparency to it in a way that absolutely kills their game and
• 57:00 - 57:30 I'll tell you why I was just looking at the state of Utah 63.1% of the land in Utah is owned by the federal government 10% is owned by the states the western states have a lot of land you've got a lot of really smart people and major investors in Utah it's not like Utah to get picked off cheap okay and they can do something about this as can the other states but they have coming and that's where we come in and I think if we can help people see
• 57:30 - 58:00 what the game is um you know this is a game that they can't get away with but it it means people gotta you know bring transparency to it really early the the BLM land in Arizona and New Mexico is disproportionate to the private land ownership in those states too you're absolutely correct we had Joe lawdale Co founder of paler along with Peter Thal talking about how do is going
• 58:00 - 58:30 to beat the Deep State Joe lale by the way is connected to Doge he's attached to Joe am I taking freaking crazy pills here like it how is this not obvious to everybody when you have the actual deep State coming out and telling you we beat the Deep State and people are like come on God bless the president he made it
• 58:30 - 59:00 clear he's a real estate developer and Gaz is a real estate play you know what we touch on that before you leave Katherine I really would like to get to that part go ahead go ahead Steve no no I was just I I I wanted to throw it to you because you and I have talked about this for years now yeah yeah no I mean I agree and well this it's I I know it's unpopular Even in our circles but I swear to God I think that most people believe see this stuff like I said the same thing during covid-19 and I think we can acknowledge that that was largely
• 59:00 - 59:30 the case I think right now with Israel I said this the first month in can we all acknowledge that the whole world sees what's going on and yet somehow still it doesn't change and I I it I maybe you don't agree with that but tell me what you think but I think right now it's in it's the same thing this is objectively clear like you may disagree with who these people are but it for example the MRNA thing Trump's still supporting the shot these things are black and white and yet they just kind of go well there must being EXC most of these people I talked to were like what else are we going to do like that's not support guys
• 59:30 - 60:00 that's just that they're checked out and so that's where I think we are and I think it behooves us to not broad strr all of them as on the but but I get what you're saying and I do largely agree but I kind of think most people see it but but so the point about Gaza I do think is really important because but your recent work Katherine um I think there's a few other people that were breaking this down in regard to how Gaza seems to be a central location for a lot of reasons and whether Trump is doing that what he's doing because he knows that and he's part of a larger agenda or like you said he just sees a real estate
• 60:00 - 60:30 opportunity and that makes sense to me I think that this is a huge play for something much larger that ties in with the globalism dynamic the the Zionism Dynamic the technocracy and this is sort of like the local the location where this will begin and so I want your thoughts on that because you seem to argue first the Cal location mean Nyah has been very clear he wants a lot of the control grd infrastructure in in Israel and and that area and I'm assuming you know they need the oil and gas they need the water you
• 60:30 - 61:00 know and they certainly would love to have the land so you know and and part of that is they just need those resources for the control grid infrastructure if they're going to put a lot of it there and and also how do you manufacture consent for everything we're talking about right you know you have to Champion oh it's the free market it's just capitalism baby wh what what you don't like capitalism what are you aomi I mean that's basically the discourse what Cal is better that's that's where
• 61:00 - 61:30 we're at it's like no we're not we're not talking about this isn't free markets this is plunder capitalism this is Monopoly creators I mean that's teal straight up says that he doesn't believe in capitalism he says find a monopoly and dominate and and and that's how you get you know I wrote about this with Whitney and and this piece tokenized in about Larry fin doing this 180 on bitcoin and and you know the the I called it phase shift dialectics and and I pointed out you know Malay going to Davos in a room of billionaires and
• 61:30 - 62:00 saying you know you know Viva the free market and everybody cheering it's like well yeah of course these billionaires want you know now that they've stolen everything you of course they want deflationary money of course they want a free market because it enables them to get away with everything they did in this like sort of karmic washing way of well hey you know free markets are good everything's good so it's okay that we just plundered the world rid the treasury uh you know inflated away your grandparents wealth and all this stuff because you you know you like free
• 62:00 - 62:30 markets right and we're seeing that play whether it's AI efficiency government efficiency uh the real estate play in Gaza whether it's uh you know NE necessitating and mandating markets for pharmaceutical products you know whatever it is there's it's under this cover of this phase shift of towards the free market as being the the the the the great protector and that and that that brings in so much of the private sector play and why intelligence has gone into the private sector paler stock is going
• 62:30 - 63:00 up like crazy bitcoin's going up like crazy you know it's such a win such a win well what's the second order effect of all of this stuff it's okay well the black books are gone they are Shadow books now we will never find them again uh and they just point can I just point out golden skyrocketing because some people don't trust the plan that's exactly what that's saying had a great conversation with Tony arterburn the other day about this exact
• 63:00 - 63:30 thing and what he's doing with his business at WISE wolf gold and silver is trying to like put these tangible assets into people's physical hands even if you're not like incredibly wealthy so I just want to give a shout out to to Tony there right yeah know I I think what's interesting about all of it though is that it comes back around to the many the many different ways this is all playing out bipartisan Direction the
• 63:30 - 64:00 long-term agenda and right now right in front of us I've never seen this much of an obvious presentation of it so before you go Katherine do you think right now that this is literally rolling out are we going to see another cycle another Administration are we going to see what you've been talking about in Trump's Administration so they're going so fast and they're making so much progress you know we may not see another Administration we could even see the
• 64:00 - 64:30 United States break up so I think you know radical changes upon us and this can go in many different ways which is why even though it feels like we're not getting our message out there I think we are and I think the more we can get our message out and the more we can encourage people to start taking lots of actions with what they can do at the state and local or network level you know we just need to keep doing it because you you know it the nature of
• 64:30 - 65:00 freedom is it always looks you know kind of bad or hopeless and then suddenly things shift and what you're seeing all around the world the US is sort of walking away from their allies leaving them high and dry and now they're all sort of in a State of Shock or licking their wounds but what is coming and Gaza is a big part of this is you have billions of people all around the world in including government leaders saying M something's wrong here we're not playing
• 65:00 - 65:30 so what can we do and we're in that inim period where a lot of people don't know what they're going to do or haven't coalesced yet but uh I think the game is much more fluid than we think and that's why we just got to do exactly what we're doing and I so appreciate everybody here also because we're from many different places in many different countries and that's what we got to do we just got to be networking so that we can see it whole I found that the comments on what's going on in
• 65:30 - 66:00 Mexico really fascinating but that's what we need we need to be working together to see it whole and just on Mexico real quick um I interviewed someone recently having published he's a cyber security guy veteran and he was saying we might see us air strikes on Mexico uh this year and I've been seeing signals that maybe that's possible uh as Calderon who I've had on my podcast I saw a clip of him yesterday saying that cartels might go
• 66:00 - 66:30 after Americans in Mexico I might have to get out of Dodge but that plays into what you're saying Katherine about us disintegrating because if something like that happens I think it's going to have to do with what's happening in in in Mexico and and I had a guest I interviewed recently at people's reset I'm starting with the Spanish edition of my podcast and he was saying I had no idea the state of noon in Mexico there's secession secessionist movement for some Mexican states as well and I think that plays into this whole dynamic so
• 66:30 - 67:00 absolutely yeah definitely great conversation I gotta go guys thank you thanks Katherine it's always a pleasure well I was gonna ask you guys in general um so we it's funny I really this is what I love about what we this group and and just kind of setting out a conversation and seeing where it goes we didn't really get to a lot of the things that we were kind of the title and so on but I thought we had a great conversation about this General thing did you guys want to get into any further more technical stuff about the artificial intelligence the nanotech the internet of bodies or did you feel just
• 67:00 - 67:30 want to wrap it now I thought it was a great conversation I'll let you guys decide I just wanted to say one thing that I think you know we covered this a little bit Ryan um when we talked kind of this the bigger Bitcoin play here is you know it's not a mistake that you know the crypto and aiar is the same guy and where there's this overlap here and I think one of the main ways that um David by the way for those don't know yeah David saaks the the founding COO of PayPal he was kind of the guy that you know made PayPal the internet of money
• 67:30 - 68:00 basically and and he he initially it was it was a PM pilot company where you could beam you know dollars between Palm pilots and and he came on and he was like I'm not going to do this unless we we turn to email because you know we live in Silicon Valley and there's like eight people that own PM Pilots but everybody has email and that's where it's going and he he really was the literally an ex McKenzie guy came in and and sort of you know took the company uh from this like techno uh focus group into like actually scaling as a business
• 68:00 - 68:30 um but you know him coming in as as the AI cryptos are and how those over overlap and I think it it's also you know relates to the the bio play too but you know AI really is a useless without large C you know caches of data and then also crypto the way that it works with these public blockchains is there creates this a asymmetric informational advantage to have you know the her istics you know that you can do on public blockchains which you don't need warrants for right it's like kind of
• 68:30 - 69:00 this this wonderful thing for the the public sector to to to spy on us without warrants um you know you need large amounts of of analytical computation to be able to sort of triangulate uh and identify payments on these public rails so even though we all technically have access to the public blockchains because they're public you know to to me and you it's sort of a useless you know uh you know x x gigabytes of data because we can't
• 69:00 - 69:30 really parse it because we have nothing to uh no context to set um and it's really pseudo Anonymous for us but if you pair that up with say a paler with say an oracle you know all of a sudden you have warrantless surveillance of every single transaction on the blockchain and that's a really scary thing and you know I'm kind of this like coming out of the Bitcoin Community a little bit and sort of you know the blasphemer now kind of you know saying a lot of these things that you know there's a lot of issues with public
• 69:30 - 70:00 blockchains there's a lot of good too that can still happen you know it's fun there's a lot of things we can do that is cool um but you know the majority of people are going to get kind of run over by this thing whereas you know maybe 10 to you know 50,000 people are going to you know make some money here and have some funds to fight back that's cool um but you know the billions of people remaining are really going to just get stuck with you know warrantless surveill programmable seizable money and that sucks um so AI is a huge part of that
• 70:00 - 70:30 and that's why they're connecting it at the regulatory level um and uh you know it's it's a scary uh Hill to to to Tumble down but we are full steam ahead doing that right now at the onset of Trump's Administration and don't forget real quick Steve that that uh Ellison already said that they were going to be using the Health Data from Oracle by the way which was the paler or the like paler was included but the point being that was the monp Sala uh uh pharmaco vigilance for two years with that nobody
• 70:30 - 71:00 ever got to see which I guarantee shows that they killed people that now they're overlapping to train the AI that they're using to control our lives and I I see that as interconnected go ahead Steve it is 100% interconnected and just just one more like final thought on the whole you know blackpill thing um when you hear somebody level that at any of us who are just trying to do what we've always done which is our responsible due diligence for any
• 71:00 - 71:30 situation involving a government or the public private partnership know that that's uh a I don't know an okey do I I know we're on YouTube and all that kind of stuff I've I've gone almost an hour and a half without saying a cuss word I'm pretty proud of me I am um but understand that that's a deflection that none of us that not
• 71:30 - 72:00 Katherine not Ryan not hervo not Mark nobody here not Derek is blackpilled in any way shape or form in fact we're all going out of our way to um get through it to get together with people in real life to highlight Solutions every single day of how we can get get out of this technocratic hellscape that's being forced on us and and it's just it's one
• 72:00 - 72:30 of those things that like it it's kind of kind of twisting me a little bit in terms of having to deflect from that or defend it every day and look dude I've got sharp elbows I'll get in the pit I'm ready for it but man we need you guys right we need all of you who are listening to to go ahead and carry that message forward we're offering Solutions every day well
• 72:30 - 73:00 I I would add doing things every day go ahead well just simply just don't don't do anything other than look at what we're saying come to your conclusions about the data presented don't look at it through a partisan lens don't listen to what you know like listen to what anybody else is saying but when you're looking at the data don't apply what other narrative just look at the information and tell us that it's not worthy of concern that's not to say that we know for sure the outcome that's what we're all saying wait for the outcome not the last flowery word was stated but what they've done up until now and then what they do next not what they say in
• 73:00 - 73:30 between those things and this is just basic logic you know and this is what we're and so if you actually listen to a lot of our conversations you'll get that along with a lot of solutions and it's you get these bullet point clips and different stuff that people misrepresent the bottom line is come to your conclusions about what's going on and I think it's very hard to miss that there's a lot of red flags right now and I hear that from you guys too you know but go go ahead I I'm not black pilled I'm with legal man I'm cyanite buil no I'm kidding I had two quick questions for Mark since he's here one is uh you
• 73:30 - 74:00 know with the Bitcoin stuff I kind of listen to the Maxis and the Skeptics and just try to form I mean think that's that's what we're all doing here you guys just outline we're listening to everything and coming to your own conclusion I found this interesting account uh I don't know much about him Jacob King who's skeptical on bitcoin but then he's Hawking xrp but you know I also had to sit down with yeah and I had to sit down with Aon day last week I published that chatt with
• 74:00 - 74:30 him for over an hour um and Jacob just posted something about tether being the glue holding up the entire crypto market and you know Aaron day sort of talked about that as well that you if tether collapses everything can just fall down like a house of cards and just going back to what Katherine was saying where um you know they've got display to swap out assets uh so I'm I'm kind of seeing like there's two options here where I I think you've written about this Mark know Bitcoin dollar and all that where they go to like a Breton Woods 3.0 so they create a new Breton Woods system
• 74:30 - 75:00 where the dollar is not backed by gold or oil but now by Bitcoin and this is the new system that goes forward or like as Katherine was pointing out that it could collapse so they they might have a short-term play where they swap out assets and tether collapses and Bitcoin collapses or it becomes the new system just any thought on that or they say don't worry here's your here's your crypto so it's all good we saved it for you right that's what a lot of us see coming go ahead Mark right well first off we we it's been a long time coming we should do a pod man we it deserves a
• 75:00 - 75:30 long talk we we should do this because because we could easily talk about this for like i' watch that three hours man um but um I I reject the the the sort of the tether truther narrative I've always been sort of against it there's kind of like one main guy this account bit finex um bitfinex is the parent company that tether is under they a Bitcoin exchange they were sort of infamously hacked one of the largest deposits of Bitcoin at the US government the US Marshals right
• 75:30 - 76:00 now is actually from bitfinex um they got you know six figures of Bitcoin hacked um but anyway it's this exchange that then operates tether they're the issuer of tether um and they tried to deny being related but they're very related but this account bitfinex has you know been blocked me for years and his whole thing is that you know for years that hey tether is not you know we'll never pass an audit tether doesn't have the the t- bill backing you know there it's this fraud it's this fraud as soon as it collapses Bitcoin will collapse well they've been saying that
• 76:00 - 76:30 for eight years uh and all we've done is seen tether go from you know under 10 billion in 2020 to 160 billion um and who holds their treasuries it's caner Fitzgerald uh which was uh you know is the CEO currently is about to be our new Commerce Secretary um and is one of 24 primary dealers at the New York fed um you know the number one uh you know uh broker for US debt you know they trade more
• 76:30 - 77:00 treasuries than anyone else um Insider of insiders exactly it's like I'm sorry yes they set up tether to be this amazing you know misdirection of this offshore company and yada yada but like they are as nationalized as you you're G to get they have the FBI on their platform the Secret Service the incel funded chain analysis are all un yeah exactly so it's like I don't think that they're going to collapse I think that the US government needs them
• 77:00 - 77:30 more than they need uh the the US government I mean I think that they can um you know service the demand and and buy trillions of dollars eventually of of treasuries of of t- bills at a time when you know Nationals otherwise are dumping t- bills so I think that the US needs Bitcoin it needs stable coins um lack is now our Commerce Secretary uh you know it's you know I saw this post the other day and I'll leave it at this
• 77:30 - 78:00 but someone was you know there there's bitcoiner was you know oh man you know the president holds Bitcoin the vice president holds Bitcoin the Commerce Secretary holds Bitcoin billions of Bitcoin uh the secretary uh of the treasury holds Bitcoin the director of the National Intelligence holds Bitcoin the incoming FBI head holds Bitcoin the head of HHS holds Bitcoin just listing all this stuff and bragging about it right being like look at what we've done and it's like okay is this really this
• 78:00 - 78:30 anti-state revolution if every single important person coming in in this Administration is holding this thing that's a you know the head of the FBI being a bitcoiner is that really like a good thing like what um maybe that shows you know this idea of teal saying you know my friends at the FBI tell me they'd rather criminals use Bitcoin than a $100 bill right so we know they're phasing out cash we know that they're moving towards uh you know a digital money so how do you do it well you set up this
• 78:30 - 79:00 big dialectic push tether offshore where in reality you know they're actually this you know crucial figure and pillar in National Security of dealing with our debt and dollariz the globe um so I think a lot of the people have kind of missed that and they're still stuck on this tether truth or thing of it's going to collapse it's a Ponzi it's this it's like well it really isn't and it hasn't been now they may do a control Demolition and move in the next stable coin that's heavily regulated you know I
• 79:00 - 79:30 think that PayPal has their stable coin that's ready to go and I've written quite a lot about that about how I think it will probably start to overtake tether um but I don't think tether is is really going to pop in any way that wouldn't be a controlled thing to just set up the next one because the mechanism is way too important um to dollarize to continue the economic hedgman of of the US government of the US dollar they need they need a neutral Reserve asset to inflate into and they
• 79:30 - 80:00 could do gold but everyone else would get rich in the world if they do Bitcoin it's pretty much just the US and so I don't see why they would monetize and inflate into another asset other than Bitcoin and then they need stable coins to be the debt uh buyers um of Last Resort and if they can kind of do both you know they have a good chance of sort of establishing you know economic hedgman for the next 300 to 500 years depending how long this Bitcoin experiment can kind of last and that's a whole other cycle of Reserve currency of the world right you know typically it's
• 80:00 - 80:30 about a 300E cycle so they might be able to double down and get a whole other one um and I you know the US always does what it needs to do to preserve its its its dominance and if that means inflating away the dollar individually they will do that because they've done that time and time again so that's the play that I think that I think will happen so I think when people are really pushing tether's going to collapse bitcoin's going to collapse buy this other coin um you know who knows anything can happen um but uh I think
• 80:30 - 81:00 the mechanism is really uh you know the only way the US can really come out of this um really ahead is by embracing this technology and it's very clear that they are so I would I would take everything about that the tether truther stuff with the grain of salt the Bitcoin collapse with a grain of salt um and then you know of course buckle up and we's see what what happens who knows well what happens how do you exactly do you have a fiat currency backed by
• 81:00 - 81:30 something that's essentially another fiat currency there's no real back I mean that's what we have anyway but it's weird to have one back by another that they're both no real tangible backing of value it's just that's I think there's so much room for manipulation there it's crazy which I think is the point yep yep exactly so I think the cbdc that we will see is you know we'll see private sector stable coins which is what we've which what we're seeing on public blockchains which is what we're seeing backed by public sector debt by treasuries which is exactly what we're seeing uh and then
• 81:30 - 82:00 of course we'll see this neutal Reserve asset uh wow look at that I'm officially aista the alternative Mexican currency wow I like it oh wow I don't know too much about that that's interesting but yeah I think go go ahead no just the the mechanisms that I just described there is the best outcome for the powers that be you know they get warrantless surveillance they get private sector restriction of customer access whereas a cbdc they might have to accept everybody
• 82:00 - 82:30 um they get a buyer of their debt uh and they get this public blockchain that they don't need warrants to surveil um it's sort of a best of all the worlds um and you know again I do think it's an active game I do think that there are some things that we can do understanding that this is what's coming we can position ourselves to fight back um but you know this we knew the digital economy was coming um unfortunately I think it was just sold to us uh as this Freedom
• 82:30 - 83:00 Movement and I think we kind of missed a lot of us missed the dialectic of you know well what is the second order effect of of a Bitcoin system um and so we have to kind of just deal with that reality because it looks like that's where we're going I agree well I was going to say I think that's a good place unless you guys wanted to get anything else and I was going to throw to Steve to uh to just throw out a the the upcoming event that's going to be coming up in April that we're doing for our birthday and the carnival after that but before we get to that is there anything
• 83:00 - 83:30 else you guys want to thr out before we we wrap I'm gonna go and end with uh some of the clips I was going to play just since yeah I I all I was going to get into was the overlap of the nanotech part of it but I feel like this conversation was really sound and I really enjoyed back and forth a lot of important things we discussed today so I'll leave that for another time and I'll play them at the end but anything else you guys want to get into all right go ahead Steve go ahead and let us know what the upcoming event you haven't heard about it we're really excited about it uh April 4th 5th and 6th we are gathering in Friendship fellowship and
• 83:30 - 84:00 in the spirit of building Community uh just north of Nashville Tennessee on uh a a 18 acre property that allows for camping and uh here's what it's going to look like all of your favorite podcasters favorite podcasters are going to be playing music together on Friday night Brian and I have been threatening to do a co- birthday party for like five years at this point now we have an
• 84:00 - 84:30 opportunity to do that he and I were born a day apart and so why not throw down so we're throwing down and we're doing that with uh uh Gan Owens from faithless town spiderland Frank Kavanaugh from the band filter uh actually if you go to an artist Collective I'll pull it up the the whole thing um it the Flyers there and all that kind of stuff
• 84:30 - 85:00 [Music] um we're uh Saturday we're doing a day of live podcast and live standup comedy featuring uh Brad Bley from the propaganda report Leonardo Joanie who has been really blowing up lately and Sam tripy is going to be headlining um where again uh live podcast throughout the day Charlie Robinson from macroaggressions is going to be there t Snider who is my co-host every Wednesday
• 85:00 - 85:30 is going to be there um along with a ton of other people uh the this is this is really going to be probably the coolest party that you go to this year I have a very blue collar audience so I do not uh charge a lot for these events it's 90 bucks including camping for the entire weekend um let's uh let's all get there let's
• 85:30 - 86:00 all get there it's gonna be fantastic Sunday the owner of the property holds Cowboy Church that's what she calls it so we're going to have Cowboy Church uh on Sunday morning and then we'll probably do another live podcast or two and then clean up and get the heck out of there um but for tickets go to an artist elective. comom um it it's going to be a banger it
• 86:00 - 86:30 really is dude Scott Armstrong from rebunk news and rebunk Records uh is going to play on Friday as well uh I I can't I'm so excited about this I really am it's gonna be such a good time and and I hope that everybody who's close can get there hervo I know that te was twisting your arm a little bit if you can get there my dude get there because we all want to look short standing next to you we all do I I'd love to I got to
• 86:30 - 87:00 save up though I'm planning to be in Croatia for a really long summer so it's kind of yeah you know are you guys gonna play uh Neil Young's Rocking In The Free World probably not prob we're probably not gonna do the Andy blinking we're probably not however I would play the weight I would do I I would do that I would play The Weight um I I would play jambalaya uh there the whole point of Friday night is
• 87:00 - 87:30 that I wanted to do it like Willie Nelson's birthday where everybody that you know that plays music just comes up and and play some music and we'll have some solo performances Ryan's gonna do a solo performance Jee Owens from faithless toown is going to do a solo performance spider land's going to do a solo performance but we are gonna have the Independent Media Allstar Jam where as many of us as we can fit on that
• 87:30 - 88:00 stage in the barn get up there and rock out yeah it'll be good man I hope you both can make it anybody else listening it'll be fun and it'll be a a great time I'm really excited about it especially since it's so close so I have to travel that far so fantastic but I think that was a great conversation today guys I really do think that we touched on you know more than even just the title a lot of things that I think are relevant to what's going on today and I hope that we reach some people that needed to hear what we talked about so thank you all for being here and I guess we'll leave it at that and as always everybody out there question everything come to your own conclusions stay vigilant
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