Why Pastors Are Now Calling Sabbath Keepers Demonic.

Summary

Highlights

• The pastor is mocked for getting louder while, in the speakers’ view, his argument gets weaker 🎤
• The conversation draws a sharp distinction between being under law and being under grace ⚖️
• The hosts say Sabbath-keeping isn’t about legalism but about honoring what God made holy 🕊️
• Isaiah 56 is used to argue that the Sabbath matters for foreigners and outsiders too 🌎
• Sunday worship is challenged as tradition, while Sabbath observance is defended as biblical 📚

Key Takeaways

• Grace doesn’t erase God’s law; it changes the believer’s relationship to condemnation, not obedience ✨
• The speakers argue the pastor wrongly lumps Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists together 🤦
• They present the Sabbath as rooted in creation, not just in later legal codes 🌍
• They claim Sabbath-keeping can be a sign of covenant and holiness for both Jews and Gentiles 📖
• Calling Sabbath observance “demonic” is framed as a misuse of Scripture and a rejection of biblical holiness 🚫

Overview

Chapters

• 00:00 - 02:30: Opening Clash Over Sunday Worship and Sabbath Keeping The speaker opens by sharply rejecting Seventh-day Adventist and Jehovah’s Witness teachings about Sabbath observance, arguing that Christians are not bound to Saturday worship because Jesus fulfilled the law and became the believer’s Sabbath. He insists that worship on Sunday is appropriate because it honors the resurrection, and he frames Saturday observance as a false or even demonic doctrine under the law rather than grace.
• 02:30 - 05:00: Debating Jesus, the Law, and the Meaning of the Sabbath The discussion centers on a debate about Jesus, biblical law, grace, and Sabbath observance. One speaker questions why someone who claims to follow Jesus would not worship on Friday/Sabbath, and the conversation shifts into a broader critique of evangelical uncertainty around Bible prophecy and end-times views. A key point is that being under grace does not necessarily cancel God's law, but rather changes the believer’s relationship to it.
• 05:00 - 07:30: Conflating Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists The speakers criticize the common mistake of lumping Jehovah’s Witnesses and Seventh-day Adventists together, arguing that while Jehovah’s Witnesses were influenced by Adventist thought, the two groups are not the same. They say the issue is that people often dismiss legitimate Seventh-day Adventist beliefs by associating them with Jehovah’s Witnesses’ date-setting and other controversial teachings, effectively treating the real tradition as a counterfeit compared with the imitator.
• 07:30 - 10:00: Law, Grace, and Why Sabbath-Keeping Is Not Legalism The speakers argue that Sabbath-keeping should not be framed as a harsh “do or die” rule, because people tend to reject it when presented that way. They discuss a prior statement calling Sabbath law a demonic doctrine, clarifying that the criticism should be limited to law-based distortions of Sabbath-keeping rather than Sabbath itself.
• 10:00 - 12:30: Tradition, Pride, and Resistance to Changing Worship Practice The speakers describe being taught traditional catechism and realizing, through Bible study and reflection, that their prior assumptions about worship practice were wrong. One speaker admits needing to “swallow my pride” and accept that God’s instruction differs from what they had learned, especially regarding Sabbath observance.
• 12:30 - 17:30: Biblical Examples: Israel’s Sabbath Failures and God’s Judgment The speakers argue that claims like “Jesus is my Sabbath” sound appealing but are not biblical, warning that emotionally comforting ideas can still be false. They cite Ezekiel to say the Sabbath was given as a sign between God and Israel, and that Israel rebelled in the wilderness by despising God’s statutes and greatly profaning the Sabbath.
• 17:30 - 20:00: Isaiah 56 and the Sabbath as Covenant for All Nations This segment argues that Sabbath-keeping functions as a covenant entry point for Gentiles and foreigners in Isaiah 56, allowing them to join the God of Israel without circumcision. It highlights that the passage includes both the outcasts of Israel and non-Jewish foreigners, emphasizing that God’s house is meant to be “a house of prayer for all people.” The speaker concludes that the idea that the Sabbath was only made for Jews is not supported by the text.

Why Pastors Are Now Calling Sabbath Keepers Demonic. Transcription

• Segment 1: 00:00 - 02:30 trying to tell people Jesus going to come next week. I'm going to ask you to leave because I ain't fooling with your Jehovah's Witness 7th Day Adventist lawabiding nonsense. I ain't messing with it. And let me just go one step further for all these 7th day Adventists that watch me for some reason and send me letters. You worshiping the devil because you meet on Sunday. Jesus fulfilled the law. Jesus became my Sabbath. And I'm here to tell you, I worship on the first day of the week because of the glory OF THE RESURRECTION. I AM NOT UNDER THE LAW OF THE SABBATH. JESUS SAID THERE WILL COME A DAY, IT doesn't matter when AND IT DOESN'T MATTER WHERE, BUT IT MATTERS WHO YOU WILL WORSHIP. I'M TELLING YOU, SATURDAY WORSHIP, AS FAR AS THE LAW IS CONCERNED, IS A DEMONIC DOCTRINE. >> SHUT UP AND DON'T COME AT ME WITH ALL THAT NONSENSE. YOU GOT TO worship on Saturday because of the law. I'm not under the law, Skippy. I'M UNDER THE GRACE of the resurrected Savior. >> SO, HIS KINGDOM'S GOING TO COME AND I DON'T KNOW WHEN AND I DON'T KNOW HOW. AND I'VE CHANGED my theological position on all that pre-trib stuff. Okay? And I don't care what you think about that neither. I ain't arguing. That's why I don't preach a lot on prophecy because for years I preached on it like I knew everything about it. Got in the Bible and figured out I didn't KNOW NOTHING ABOUT IT except what the Baptist told me. >> Right. Y'all okay? Am I am I talking good? His kingdom's coming. His kingdom's coming. His kingdom's coming. Just be ready. >> It's hard not to It's really hard not to laugh. Like, it's it's >> it's because because just because just because you're getting more excited doesn't mean your argument is getting
• Segment 2: 00:00 - 02:30 stronger. you know, like the more excited he was getting, the weaker his argument became >> because like when you say that you're going to if you're going to worship the resurrected Lord >> on the first day, >> well, that's contrary to when he said the work was finished. Why are you worshiping the resurrected day when he said the day was finished on the sixth day? But when he said like when when the blood spilled he said it is finished. So if you're going to worship it's finished when he said it was finished. Why are you doing it the day you resurrected? Wasn't it finished when he said it was finished? Like it becomes very contrary like okay let's pretend that is your
• Segment 3: 02:30 - 05:00 theological reason >> then why aren't you worshiping on Friday? >> That's a good point. That's a good point. Oh man. Uh, I there's a lot there's a lot of issues here. I think one thing I can give him credit for is that he admits that he doesn't know what he believes when it comes to Bible prophecy, right? Except what the Baptist told me, >> which which is a good admission because I think a lot of um evangelicals, no condemnation, do not have a proper interpretation on prophecy, right? They doing all that pre-trip and mid-trip and post-trip stuff. Yeah. >> Um he said that I'm under the grace of the resurrection of the resurrecting savior. Um I agree with that. I I think we are all under the grace of God if we are saved by the grace of God. But does that mean the grace of God nullifies the law of God? >> Well, I guess the the question that we'd have to answer first would be what do we determine as the law of God? Right? So when he says, "I'm no longer under the law," does he believe he's no longer supposed to live morally, >> or is he saying the punishment of the law, meaning being stoned to death or circumcised? Like how is he defining law? Right. >> Correct. Correct. >> Yeah. And the truth is when we are under the law, we are under the dominion of the law and also the condemnation of the law like you've said. But when you are under grace, that means you are no longer under the dominion of the law. So the opposite of that is true. So you are you have grace now. So you can obey the law and you're no longer under the condemnation of the law because the law reveal what sin is. He exposes the character now that you have grace. And the Bible tells us in Romans chapter 8,
• Segment 4: 02:30 - 05:00 there is no more condemnation to those who are in Christ Jesus. So there is you're no longer condemned by the law because you have been saved by the grace of Christ. But that doesn't mean we get rid of the law. >> He refers to 7day Adventist as law abid lawabiding nonsense. I'm like, well, it's kind of a good thing to be a lawabiding citizen, lawabiding Christian. >> Because if you're not law-abiding Christian, the opposite of that is true. >> So you were a lawying Christian. Would that be a good thing for you to even say publicly, you know? >> Yeah. Well, what I think um well, two things real quick, right? So, the first
• Segment 5: 05:00 - 07:30 thing he did is he conflated Jehovah Witnesses with Seventh Day Adventist. >> Thank you. >> And and I I can't tell you how often I I encounter that on the internet there. Yes. Jehovah Witnesses effectively came out of the, you know, second great awakening influenced by Advent theological perspectives, but it didn't come out of, they're not related. They're not cousins. No, >> it was obviously influenced by the Advent movement, which >> what ends up happening though is people start conflating the the sound doctrine that we see in 7th Day Adventism with the um I would say bonkers perspective of Jehovah Witnesses that do continually give um you know date setting and stuff like that. Like >> this this to me is almost like a counterfeit situation. You have the thing that's real and then you have the thing that kind of copies it. And he conflated that. But he didn't go after the Jehovah Witnesses there. Who did he go after? >> Seven day particularly, >> right? Yeah. Exactly. He went after the truth. He went after the 7-day Sabbath. >> And it's kind of strange because he's complaining about getting letters from Seventh Day Adventist. Yeah. The Seventh Day Baptist uh have been keeping the 7-day uh Sabbath since the Reformation, right? So the reformation was the 16th century and then shortly shortly after the 7th day Baptist came out of the reformation saying hey we need to keep reforming. >> Yeah. >> And nobody goes after them. >> That's interesting. Good point. Yeah. I think there is a degree of criticism to the Seventh Day Adventist who try to either condemn him for not going to church on Saturday because you and I both understand there are a lot of Sabbathke keeping Christians who may not be attending an actual church. That
• Segment 6: 05:00 - 07:30 doesn't mean they can't keep the Sabbath. Sabbathke keeping. Yes. Going to in fellowship and having >> uh the Bible tells us we should definitely have congregation church in the book of Luke 4:16. So it's not wrong to keep the Sabbath >> as your fellowship in a local building, but there's a lot of Sabbath keepers who do not go to an actual physical building and are able to keep it. And I think to make the minister feel like he is condemned unless he comes to a 7th day Adventist be building or Sabbathke keeping church he's going to hell. I think that wasn't the right sentiments either. That wasn't the right message. I think that could also be you know sometime I think uh some of us as SDAs
• Segment 7: 07:30 - 10:00 we do present the Sabbath is like to the point like do or die you know. >> Yeah. >> I think people ultimately reject that when it's presented that way. I think you're being fair because he did give a caveat >> right right before he said it's a demonic doctrine. He said as as it's concerned with the law, it's a demonic doctrine. >> Yeah. >> And so he gave that caveat. And so again, what I said earlier was like how do you define the law? Because the law of Sabbathkeeping >> is in creation is different than the law of Sabbathkeeping that you see um after Exodus 20. Meaning you do see that God is pointing to creation in e Exodus 20 11 specifically. He quotes uh Genesis 2:3 and two 2 verse two 2:3 >> and then after uh chapter 20 we actually start seeing that the uh other other commands are added to it >> uh which include stoning people, putting somebody to death. Well obviously putting somebody to death is opposite to what the Sabbath is. The Sabbath is about life. And that's what Jesus was making clear. >> So yeah, if somebody is trying to quote unquote unal alive you, >> right, which is said like that would be according to the law. That would be demonic. If you're trying because that's what the Pharisees were doing. They were planning the death of Jesus on the Sabbath. >> They were acting demonic. >> Yeah, they were. >> So I'm again, I'm not I'm not defending the guy. I'm saying he did throw in that caveat right before he said that. So, you got to step back and say, "Well, what part of the law would be demonic?" And I I think Jesus addressed that in all four gospels when he was handling the Pharisees, teaching Sabbathkeeping incorrectly.
• Segment 8: 07:30 - 10:00 >> Yeah, you're right. You're right. And poor guy. And I think a lot of it um to to a large degree it could be the mistreatments that he receives from Sabbath keepers. But I'll also say a lot of it has to do with you tradition as well. when you being keeping your Sunday keeping and you very much influence in that realm. Any rebuke to change your ways is very difficult for for a man. And I think some of our men have to kind of like admit to the fact that your pride and your arrogance is standing in your way of conversion and accepting any biblical truths >> because I I was coming from the Catholic church when the Lord rebuked me and told me, "Hey,
• Segment 9: 10:00 - 12:30 >> you've been reading the catechism and they've been telling you that we've changed it from Saturday to Sunday because as as a former Ring Catholic, I had to learn that we have to recite this stuff by heart before um we can accept communion and everything." So in a Catholic church, so you read that, you never think about it. And then I had a Bible study with the Seventh Day Adventist. I'm like, "Oh, that stuff is in a Bible." >> I know I had to swallow my pride. >> I had to swallow my pride and my arrogance and say, "I was wrong and God is right." >> Yeah. >> That's the Sabbath. >> Yeah. On on a similar note for me, um it was uh 2021, so we're still kind of in that whole, you know, lockdown mentality. And when it was brought to my attention that people like him >> is the predominant mainstream view >> uh that's when the conviction hit me because I I I I still thought that oh yeah we just don't know how to keep the Sabbath whether you keep it on a Saturday you keep it on a Sunday or choose your day >> choose your day. >> Um >> it turns out that no people are like no Jesus is my Sabbath like he said like Jesus is my Sabbath. We havece we have a video about that one. >> Oh, okay. Okay. I know. Okay. And it's like >> never once does Jesus ever say that he is a specific day. He he calls himself food. He calls himself drink. He calls himself an animal. He calls himself a door like an entrance. He never refers to himself as a day. So, so or a week. >> Yeah. But even when he to himself at those things, it was typology. >> It was never reality. You know what I'm saying? So you supposed to look at that and learn a spiritual lesson. You were
• Segment 10: 10:00 - 12:30 not supposed to take that literally. But some of them that applying Christ to be in the Sabbath, they're making a literal declaration. Jesus is my Sabbath. Like what? That's right. >> He's the Lord. >> He cannot be it if he's the Lord of it. That that's just no sense. >> Yeah. It's contrary. It's very contrary. And so that's how that's how I came into it. It was it was realizing that the that the world's lost its it it's its mind mine. I I used to my my my girlfriend in high school, her whole family is Presbyterian. They're from Sweden. They had a farm. >> And every Sunday, I wouldn't go to the Presbyterian church. I would go to my church. But I I would go to grandma's house on the farm every Sunday. And we'd keep the Sunday >> Sabbath. Like I wasn't realizing I was Sabbath like a Presbyterian, but I was naturally just hanging out with the family, eating with them, doing nothing on the farm, and then I would help with the farm during the week. And so like my
• Segment 11: 12:30 - 15:00 mindset was already there keeping a Sabbath of some way. >> So when when I found out that the world is just saying, "Oh no, there is no Sabbath. Jesus is my Sabbath." It's like what when did we lose lose our mind? Like when did this happen? What >> sad? >> I I think it's because people are realizing personally that we're not keeping the Sabbath. >> So they default to Jesus as my everything. >> Yeah. Yeah. And I think uh you know it's very difficult to argue against anything that is connected and associated with Jesus. You know what I'm saying? Because if you're a Christian, whenever the name Jesus is mentioned, it's associated to something. You tend to accept that as fact. You know, Jesus is my Sabbath. It's just a beautiful statement, but it's not a biblical statement. >> You know, most people look at that and say, "Oh yeah, that sounds so good." >> So does the lie of the enemy in the Garden of Eden. It sounded good. >> But doesn't make it true. You know, so Ezekiel has this claim and this is the only text I'm going to add to it. Uh God says, "Moreover, I gave them my Sabbaths to be a sign between me and them that they may know that I am the Lord that do have sanctified them." That sanctified them. >> But the house of Israel rebel against me in the wilderness. Look at that. So >> yeah, >> and the modern day Israel is doing the same thing today. But how did they rebel here? They walk not in my statutes. They despise my judgment. What if a man do and he shall even live in them? My Sabbath they greatly polluted. So >> what was the sins of ancient Israel? One of the primary sins was that they were actually breaking God's Sabbath. That's why the reason why they went into Babylonian captivity and the Assyrian
• Segment 12: 12:30 - 15:00 came to the 10 tribes and divided them and scattered them over. So Sabbath keeping has always been an issue historically speaking. So that's the point. So what Christians are doing today is no different that ancient Israel did. They had an issue with the you know the Sabbath as well with letting the land rest and everything like that. That's a very common thing. And as then I said I will pour out my fury upon them in the wilderness to consume them. So you see like >> this is the issue. That issue has always been there. So it's nothing new. Um yeah and the other thing is there is this idea that the the priests they have they they uh okay let me pull that Ezekiel as well. Ezekiel has another text Ezekiel 22:26 for that one. There we go. Her priests have violated my law and have profaneed mine holy things. They have
• Segment 13: 15:00 - 17:30 put no difference between the holy and the profane. When you say the Sabbath is a demonic doctrine like you just profane what God has made holy. Neither have they showed the difference between the unclean and the clean and have hid their eyes from just in case you don't know what he's referring to my Sabbaths and I am profit among them. >> Yeah, it's sad. That's what the priests and modern day pastors are doing today. That which God has made holy from the beginning and ask us to keep holy. They're profaining it as if it's a bad thing. You're calling it demonic and evil and everything. He's like, "Okay, why would you take an issue with resting on the seventh day and spend quality time with the one you love? >> If you would, I mean, we both are married >> when you spend time with your spouse. That's not a chore. That's not like a burden. That's not like that's that's praise the Lord moment. We we get to do something together." And I think the wife is in the chat, isn't she? >> Yeah. It's funny you say that cuz like she'll like Oh, this is funny. She'll like she'll go into the kitchen to get something to drink and I I'll have a melt. I'll tell you. I'll have a meltdown. I'll be like, "Where are you going? Where are you going?" She goes, "Man, I'm I'm I'm I'm in the kitchen." I'm like, "Yeah, but the kitchen is not here. You're over there. You've been gone too long." >> Well, I'm sorry. >> That's funny. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I play with my wife like that, too. >> I was I ain't got a hug this morning. She's like, "You stay downstairs. I'm supposed to come to you and get you a hug." >> Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, "Okay, you got me on that one." >> Right. >> All right. Well,
• Segment 14: 15:00 - 17:30 >> I think um if if you don't mind one more um if you don't mind one more scripture of >> Yes, please. >> Isaiah 56, >> please. >> Yeah. And and I'm bringing this up. Um uh Jamie Russell um from Christian Middleear channel, he he he drove this home in one of my live streams. So, I think it's really important because a lot of people, they'll say, "Yeah, but the Sabbath is just for uh, you know, Israel." >> And you'll actually see Isaiah 56 is calling out salvation is for everyone. And when it talks about salvation is for everyone, it's specifically talking about the Sabbath. >> Yeah. >> And it's specifically talking about the Gentile, the stranger. >> Yeah. Absolutely. >> So, it makes it very clear. >> Very clear. And what's interesting in Isaiah 56, I did an entire study on this ago. What's interesting here is also he's relating the Sabbath to the covenant.
• Segment 15: 17:30 - 20:00 >> Mhm. >> So it's like through the Sabbathke keeping they enter into covenant >> with the with the with the God of Israel. >> Right. And they're not circumcised. >> Exactly. So he bypasses the circumcision which was one of the original ways to enter into the covenant with if you went out of the Jewish faith of course so you can Judaize but through the Sabbathke keeping in Isaiah 56 sons of strangers um also the Unix and also >> yeah verse 8 talks about the outcasts of Israel. So these obviously were Jews >> but they also were called back in but we also have these ones >> yet will I gather others. So these are not Jews. These are actually Gentiles. These are the foreigners. >> So that's why God can say my house shall be a house of prayer for all people. >> So you write about that. He is showing this idea that the Sabbath was made for the Jews. It's not even biblical. >> It's not right.