Sam Seder WINS THE COMMENTS SECTION OVER After DESTROYING Patrick Bet-David and Vinny LIVE on PBD
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Summary
In a gripping debate on the PBD podcast, Sam Seder clashed with Patrick Bet-David and Vinny, discussing hot-button issues like social security and immigration. Sam, known for his sharp debating skills, managed to debunk several misleading points, standing firm against the aggressive tactics of multiple opponents. Despite the chaotic environment of interruptions and shouting, Seder's facts and poise shone through, resonating with many viewers who lauded him in the comment section.
Highlights
Sam Seder tackled accusations of misinformation with poise and came out on top in the comment section. 📈
The debate highlighted the challenges of battling multiple opponents simultaneously, yet Seder's facts stayed undefeated. 🎯
Despite the chaotic setting, many viewers found Seder's arguments compelling and well-founded. 👏
Key Takeaways
Sam Seder expertly debunked misinformation on social security and immigration despite being heavily outnumbered. 🧠
The chaotic debate style of the PBD podcast crew didn't go unnoticed, with many viewers criticizing their tactics. 🤯
Sam's clear and factual communication won over many in the comments section, showcasing the power of patience and knowledge in debates. 🌟
Overview
Sam Seder continued to prove his mettle as a top-tier debater during his recent appearance on the PBD podcast. Faced with a barrage of claims from Patrick Bet-David and others, Seder held his ground, systematically debunking misinformation about social security and immigration. His calm demeanor and factual responses countered the chaotic energy of his opponents, showcasing his exceptional ability to thrive in a hostile debating environment.
Throughout the hour-long discussion, Seder dismantled the PBD crew's arguments time and again. Despite being outnumbered, he remained composed, using his extensive knowledge to counter false narratives about immigration and social security. His efforts didn't go unnoticed, as a majority of the comment section praised his performance, contrasting sharply with the erratic style of the podcast hosts.
The overwhelming positive reception in the comments highlighted a significant victory for Seder. Viewers recognized the value of Seder's contributions, appreciating the clarity and accuracy he brought to the debate. This encounter solidified his reputation as a formidable voice in political discussions, and the comment section echoed this sentiment, standing testament to the impact of informed debate.
Chapters
00:00 - 00:30: Introduction The chapter discusses reactions and reflections on statements made by Sam during a previous discussion or argument. It references a Bill Murray quote about the difficulty of arguing with a stupid person, which is applied to Sam's situation. There are mentions of Sam's noticeable activities and achievements, like his second jubilee, and humorous speculations about other personalities, such as Steven Crowder, being glad not to be involved in a similar situation.
00:30 - 10:00: Sam Cedar's Performance and Arguments This chapter discusses an incident during a video where Sam Cedar appeared on PBD, and was consistently proven right whenever the PBD crew accused him of lying. Throughout the video, Sam's arguments were backed by evidence found online, much to the frustration of the opposing team. There is a specific moment of heightened tension when the discussion turns to topics like social security and border policies, creating a chaotic atmosphere. Additionally, it mentions viewers' responses in the comment section, which were generally in favor of Sam and not supportive of PBD.
10:00 - 21:00: Discussion on Social Security and Immigration The chapter opens with a heated discussion at the 27-minute mark, highlighting the chaotic nature of the conversation. Vinnie is described as 'unhinged' while Sam Cedar is depicted as the voice of reason, akin to a chaperone amidst a lunchroom shouting match. The speaker feels inclined to delve into the entire video to assess the conversation from a socialist perspective, acknowledging a credibility system in operation.
21:00 - 33:30: Debate on Trump's Policies and Immigration The chapter explores a debate on the policies of former President Trump, particularly focusing on immigration issues. The discussion clarifies a misconception about social security numbers being assigned to undocumented immigrants. It highlights that the individuals in question are non-citizens and are legally present in the country. The conversation includes a personal anecdote about someone’s family immigrating legally, emphasizing the distinction between legal immigrants and those without proper documentation.
33:30 - 41:00: Discussion on Voter Fraud and Political Manipulation The chapter discusses voter fraud and political manipulation, particularly focusing on the nuanced language used to describe certain groups. The conversation highlights the difference between 'non-citizen' and 'undocumented or illegal' statuses, with a focus on immigration processes like obtaining a green card and social security card. There is a correction in terminology by one of the speakers who insists on accuracy in describing these individuals as non-citizens.
41:00 - 49:00: Comments on Border Policy and Sam's Strategy The chapter discusses border policies and Sam's strategic approach. It highlights the legality of certain programs related to immigration, such as the EBE program (Enumeration Beyond Entry), which was initiated under the Trump administration. The discussion also mentions that the number of legal entries has increased under Biden due to the expansion efforts that began during Trump's tenure. This has led to more individuals residing legally in the country.
49:00 - 61:30: Critique on Political Figures and Ideologies This chapter delves into the discussion of political figures and their ideologies, focusing on reactions to immigration, particularly undocumented immigration. The conversation highlights how certain political figures use rhetoric about illegal immigrants to sidetrack meaningful policy discussions on social issues like social security. The narrative critiques how these figures prefer reactionary exclusion over constructive discourse, hinting at a disregard for comprehensive debate on policies that affect a broad audience. The text implies a criticism towards the use of fear-mongering and divisive tactics by some political ideologues.
61:30 - 73:00: Implications of Trump's Policies The chapter "Implications of Trump's Policies" seems to delve into the contentious debate over social security numbers being allegedly handed out to illegal immigrants, touching upon broader issues related to immigration and social policies. Sam is depicted as frequently debunking repeated talking points. Emotional appeals are highlighted as one side accuses the other of not caring about children or wanting to discuss particular issues, with interruptions and heated discussion being evident. The conversation reflects the polarizing nature of political discourse surrounding Trump's policies.
73:00 - 84:00: Speculation on Future Political Implications The chapter "Speculation on Future Political Implications" revolves around a discussion about the trust American citizens have in their government, particularly in relation to financial matters. The speaker notes that there is skepticism about government's handling of public funds in comparison to free market dynamics. The topic of social security expenditure is brought up, reflecting concerns about tax money management. The influence of public perception, labeled as 'enough of you taking our tax money', is highlighted. The debate is fueled by underlying tensions about perceived government inefficiency and desire for economic independence.
84:00 - 94:30: Analysis on Sam Cedar's Impact and Audience Perception The chapter discusses Sam Cedar's influence through the lens of recent political events, specifically referencing Elon Musk's role in the Wisconsin election. It suggests that the election was seen as a referendum on Doge, a term unfamiliar to many before November of the previous year. The narrative indicates a significant Republican loss where their lead was diminished by 17 to 20 points, describing this as a political wipeout.
94:30 - 96:00: Conclusion and Final Thoughts The chapter delves into the strategic decisions within the Republican Party, specifically focusing on Donald Trump's administration's stance on Elon Musk. Trump recognizes the negative connotations associated with Musk's brand and is actively working to distance his administration from Musk to avoid further reputational damage. The narrative suggests that by separating from Musk, Trump is attempting to avert the fallout from Musk's controversial actions, especially those concerning Doge. The chapter highlights this as a tactical move to maintain a positive image for Trump's political ambitions.
96:00 - 99:00: Outro Music The chapter discusses the negative perception of Elon Musk as a scapegoat and touches on the public's trust in social security. It argues that the public does trust social security, which is why political campaigns do not focus on cutting it. However, skepticism arises due to high-profile figures like Elon Musk and Donald Trump taking actions perceived as detrimental to the institutions responsible for social security.
Sam Seder WINS THE COMMENTS SECTION OVER After DESTROYING Patrick Bet-David and Vinny LIVE on PBD Transcription
00:00 - 00:30 uh they all seem to be relatively positively directed at Sam uh it's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person that's a Bill Murray quote and that was 100% referencing Sam arguing with Dude that is the perfect application of that quote that's exactly what I've been trying to say this whole time yeah exactly and then obviously somebody else pointed out Sam's second jubilee this year amazing someone said somewhere Steven Crowder is watching this in the safety of his bedroom under a blanket just happy it isn't him again uh it was glorious to
00:30 - 01:00 see every time PBD crew accused Sam lying about something they look it up online only to prove Sam was 100% accurate it happened at least a dozen times in this vid uh angry patriot dude was about to burst a blood vessel how do I turn down Vinnie's microphone uh damn the comment section is not on PBD side the Vanguard will be there but anyway so uh Sam Teter goes on PBD and the first moment where it gets really chaotic really crazy is when they start talking about social security and the border
01:00 - 01:30 which is the part that I wanted to skip to immediately it's right around 27 minutes in um not much to say other than that Vinnie is unhinged uh Sam Cedar comes in like an adult like a chaperone honestly like the only reasonable person in the room in in a lunchroom shouting match basically um but yeah let's go ahead and plow into this guy i mean well I almost feel like we should go through the whole video coming from a socialist you know the level of credibility system that is working but I
01:30 - 02:00 want to hear that anti go for it first off you seem to not understand that these were not undocumented immigrants who were getting these social security numbers they are non-citizens now when you came to this country Yeah you were uh an an immigrant your parents came legally every single one of those people who got those social security numbers are here legally
02:00 - 02:30 they're not citizens just like you weren't when you first came to this country you get a green card your parents get a green card they go through a process all of those people and understand they got their they got their social security card i really want to see your point well the point is you referred to them as undocumented and illegal you did i said non-citizen excuse me don't say everyone here i said non-citizen correct yourself i can't remember which one of you got it wrong i think you did you're thinking but I I we
02:30 - 03:00 can play the video and go through it but I'm still trying to get to the point i just want to make Well the point is they're not un they're not illegal they're not undocumented they're all legal right the expansion from that program the EBE program which is enumeration beyond entry was started under the Trump administration the numbers have gone up because yes under uh Biden as opposed to Trump there was an expansion of people who were here like you're like you know probably I'm
03:00 - 03:30 not sure a lot of illegals 10 plus million not a single one of them breaking number hold on you're and this is about to get really spicy but I just want to point out to everyone that Sam did a really good job of debunking their talking points and instead they just immediately plowed over him and were like the illegals are coming in in droves like they want to have any kind of serious conversation about social security which is something that every single person in their audience is going to benefit from at some point down the line they want to be exclusionary they want to be reactionary
03:30 - 04:00 and they want to split hairs as Sam is actually debunking a talking point that they're going to go back to multiple times in this episode i'm talking about that video and every one of those social security numbers that was hand illegal immigrants i will get to illegal you don't care about those people i will get to the end you cared about children well you don't want to talk about this and I don't blame you because it's embarrassing no no but let me let me do a quick time every one of those social security numbers do a quick time out here Sam let me just do a quick time out you said you don't want to talk
04:00 - 04:30 about this you just spun away from a question I asked you and you brought this up you haven't even addressed the question I asked you wait a minute we'll get to the point that I Let's go back to what I asked you i ask you a question that the money that's going in Americans prove that they don't trust the government getting the money than free market free enterprise i don't think that's you never address that i don't think that's the case social security expenditure what we learned with Doge the American people said Sam enough of you taking our tax money and
04:30 - 05:00 see what you're doing with it elon Musk made that Wisconsin election of a a referendum on Doge to the extent that we've seen anybody vote on Doge nobody heard the word Doge before November of last year to the extent that we've seen a referendum on Doge it just happened in Wisconsin it happened in Florida where the uh where the size of the win by those Republican congressman was cut by 17 20 points i mean this is a wipeout
05:00 - 05:30 and and every Republic and you're going to see a difference in Republican and not only that Donald Trump knows it he literally knows it that's why he is pushing Elon Musk out of his administration that's why he's leaking to the press that hey the Trump administration is parting ways with Elon elon is not going to be as much a part of this administration because Elon's brand is so toxic at this point Donald Trump knows he's better off distancing himself from Elon and he can kind of shove all of the bad behavior all of the horrible decisions from Doge all the
05:30 - 06:00 unpopular things onto Elon as a scapegoat right and then move on to greener pastures and as they go on and say the public doesn't trust social security the public absolutely does trust social security that's why Republicans never run on cutting social security but two uh the reason that people are growing skeptical about social security is because Elon Musk and Donald Trump keep firing all of the people that are responsible for it yep 100% and lawmakers over the next year and a
06:00 - 06:30 half because anybody who was in a plus Trump 8 district or less is now starting to go like wait a second that's why Musk is is being shown the door supposedly so getting back to my point about those social security numbers they were given all to legal uh noncitizens and every one of those cards you can't vote because I think you definitely said and I think maybe you said that this is a Democratic strategy to get voters hold
06:30 - 07:00 on for a second the social security card that they get literally says not legitimate for voting purposes it is so that these uh these noncitizens who are legal just like when you came in excuse me pay into the social security system this is something they do constantly on the stupid show too is like as soon as someone starts making really good points they just start condescending them in the most annoying way possible and as you hear are you that naive are you that
07:00 - 07:30 naive and like at other points in the interview too you know they'll just cut him off refuse to let him make what's very obviously a legitimate point um because they know they can't really argue against it they just have to do this [ __ ] it's super annoying to watch but you know this interview only continues to get worse it really you know continues to honestly disintegrate to the point where it's unlistenable i was trying to watch it earlier you know to prepare and it gets to a point where they're just you can't even hear what anyone's saying they're all just talking over each other sam can't even get through a single sentence um without
07:30 - 08:00 them like filibustering uh because again even though there's like five of them and one of him um they still they still can't take him down oh yeah it reminds me of a lunchroom debate right where you're like the one kid that's debating with all of your friends about you know you liked the movie and everybody else hated the movie and you're all you know talking over each other or whatever but what it really reminds me is that Sam is just excellent in this Jubilee format right he did the you know Sam Cedar versus 20 Maggas over uh you know what was it a couple of weeks ago and now
08:00 - 08:30 he's sitting here doing 1v5 on the PBD podcast and he's not getting flustered he's not out of his element you know he's like a fish in water and even though they constantly interrupt him and they constantly try and you know shake him and rattle him off of his game he's like "Let me finish i'm going to make this point." And he does debunk a lot of their talking points throughout the episode and as we'll see as we finish the segment a lot of people in the comments section were turned by Sam Cedar many of them never get that money back so in addition to the undocumented
08:30 - 09:00 immigrants who pay in $22 billion a year into social security and get zero back these people pay several billion dollar in a year and only if they become citizens which mo most of them won't most of them will go back home over a period of time they're here for temporary protected status maybe some of them are refugees and they get permanent uh citizenship they won't get that money either so every single thing of that
09:00 - 09:30 video this video here was completely wrong that you guys did it was fascinating to me because I feel like you at the very least I I believe that you care about the information you're putting out and this was all that would be a little too generous Sam i'm sorry you're a good guy that's a little too generous wrong and so they're up there so Zam this is all a lie these guys were up there just completely bullshitting with all the numbers where he's saying that people in the government people in the government are blowing the whistles he didn't want to say their names he was
09:30 - 10:00 giving them praise and for some Sam for you to say that you care you care about the kids and the labor and all that stuff we've had an open border for four years and all the illegals way more than 10 million have come into this country california is that where you live no where do you live i live in New York okay great even better california so the amount of money that we spent on illegals with housing and all that [ __ ] and Gavin Newsome passing a law that you don't even need an ID to vote you're saying that we're coming up with where where these people aren't coming in for the votes that's the main goal of this
10:00 - 10:30 whole thing what was the open border for why why was the border open and this is a common conservative talking point that gets debunked all the time in the same way that that Daily Wire video that we or movie that we watched and dunked on for an early CJA episode what lady Ballers was supposed to be a documentary about all of the men playing women's sports and dominating all of the women's sports leagues and they couldn't find the actual evidence for that so they had to make a narrative film a fiction film
10:30 - 11:00 well there's been tons of effort on the conservative right to make documentaries that expose the massive amounts of voter fraud that are happening and they all come up empty-handed there's very few instances of voter fraud in America and most of the time when you come up with it it's like a elderly woman that accidentally voted by mail and then forgot she voted by mail and showed up and voted on election day you know that's the kind of voter fraud that we actually do see here in America it's not this organized nebulous of undocumented people that are flooding into America
11:00 - 11:30 it's actually kind of a pain in the ass to vote in America and a lot of times if you're not registered by the time if you don't have the required ID if your ID doesn't satisfy whatever regulations you know it kind of can be difficult it's not just like they would have people show up and oh hey yeah just walk up to the voting booth they cast your vote also if you're [ __ ] undocumented the last thing you're going to want to do is walk in a government building and show your papers to government employees like are you [ __ ] kidding me you think any undocumented person in this country gives enough of a [ __ ] about who the next mayor of their town is or who the
11:30 - 12:00 next governor of the state is or even the president of the country is that they think they're one little tiny vote one in a [ __ ] million bajillion that they're going to risk their freedom and their you know status in this country to go try to vote there that's absolutely ridiculous plus it's total projection from the Republican party because Zach what have they been doing they've been deporting people like Mahmud Khalil why because of their political uh opinions and and their free speech that they've exercised in this country marco Rubio's
12:00 - 12:30 literal explanation for why these people are being deported is that oh we wouldn't have let them in in the first place if we'd known that that that they were going to use their political speech this way once they were in the borders of this country that's their literal excuse basically saying going forward for people to get admitted as legal citizens or visa holders whatever you have to agree with Donald Trump and you have to vote Republican uh so they're actually the ones that are now going to be importing immigrants that are ideological allies so that they can win
12:30 - 13:00 elections and deporting left-wing opponents who speak out against what they stand for it's literally the exact same thing they accuse Democrats of constantly damn thing they've accused Democrats of my entire [ __ ] life great point it's been for four years answer me that question first of all the border was not open give me a Are you Are you kidding me look at the What do you mean the border wasn't open are you Hold on did you smoke this that's ridiculous by the way did you smoke before you came in here vinnie hello if anybody's fried in this room okay it's
13:00 - 13:30 you pal and it's from sunbathing way too much but I think the other or cocaine oh bro i know the Miami thing this guy is the most obviously Miami jabroni I've ever seen in my entire life but no no mention no knowledge no recall of the fact that Joe Biden read a led a ruthless authoritarian attempt at bipartisanship to crack down on the border and it was opposed by Donald Trump and PBD because it had Joe Biden's name on it yeah completely ridiculous
13:30 - 14:00 here's a part of it here's the part of Sam here's the part when I hear this okay anybody can look at that video the things you were saying was a complete lie or just misinformation be honest with me immigration year over year over year illegal immigration year over year the fact that you're saying the border wasn't wide open how many deaths How many deaths have happened how many fentanyl deaths have happened per year while your freaking president Joe
14:00 - 14:30 Biden was in office how many Hold on how many Americans died just from fentanyl and you're saying the border wasn't wide open bro we get most of our fentinel from China okay china manufactures fentinel okay that we don't share a border with China all the illegal immigrants we've had the most one backpack full of fentinel with them as they cross the border that's the requirement to cross swallow condoms full of fentinel and have to [ __ ] them out once they get in El Paso that's why it's called El Paso it's El Paso the drugs in the condom that's in your belly through [ __ ] it out give it to uh the
14:30 - 15:00 local cocaine dealer look at his face too this guy he's so pissed should keep it at two times speed honestly though Joe Biden was in office how many Hold on how many Americans died just from fentanyl and you're saying the border wasn't wide open we've had the most illegal entry in four years in the history of the country you're you're And this is why Let me Let me finish and this is why your party sucks this is why
15:00 - 15:30 your party is at 29% approval because you got 20 thank you because all you guys do is talk [ __ ] and just go anti-Trump you have no policies you guys have no vision you have no leaders you're talking about oligarchs and you hate the oligarchs where do you think Bernie Sanders and AOC are going to get their money from they're donors are you like don't lie to yourself oligarchs that's the whole point this guy's never even paid attention to a single Bernie Sanders campaign rally he doesn't understand American politics my guy Bernie Sanders doesn't take money from
15:30 - 16:00 the oligarchs let me say it again he does not take money from the oligarchs but this guy's totally brain fried okay because he's been you know sitting in the tanning bed for too long and he doesn't understand the difference between small dollar donations and large donations they were all [ __ ] their load on this podcast when RFK was like "Bernie excuse me you know you took more money from big pharma than any other candidate." And Bernie is like "Well listen let me be clear about that let me clarify for everyone these were small
16:00 - 16:30 dollar donations from workingclass middle American people bernie it was all big pharma it's like big farmer they have rail giller working employees people who work at the Walgreens people who work at the you know uh checking counter uh people who are you know answering telephones these are working people a big big farmer it's not the same thing and uh these guys were celebrating the [ __ ] out of how they own Bernie Sanders but they don't understand that you can actually have a base of people who want to support you so much in politics that they will send you
16:30 - 17:00 enough money to keep you in office and to keep you the most favorable a favorably rated politician in America yeah i don't even know how that donation thing got categorized as like being from big pharma that's like saying if a bunch of Walmart employees donate to you that like you're a recipient of Walmart money that's just a lie yeah so what they were doing was is there's a requirement when you make a donation you have to say what field you're in uh for professions I believe right I know that but like to then say that that means it's from that industry instead of from workers within
17:00 - 17:30 the industry that's just such a wild you know omission that's just a lie like I said oh yeah that' be like saying oh like 10 people the work of McDonald's donated to Bernie Bernie Sanders took money from McDonald's can you believe like it's the same thing no one would say that um but RFK is such a [ __ ] liar and these ghouls are such [ __ ] idiots that don't give a [ __ ] about anything um that they're willing to just repeat it for you to look and like by the way you're talking about yesterday we lied and Bernie Sanders don't take
17:30 - 18:00 Hold on ready for this you're you're saying that we lied two days ago you just lied and you're going to look like a fool that the border wasn't wide open look at this chart what does that chart say to you what what does that what did what did Trump when Trump was in he was trying to close it but your party was fighting it it's unbelievable how many illegals have come in in the past but this is this is the part to just be very just show the data illegal immigration this is Wall Street Journal is a bigger problem than ever these five charts explain why go a little bit lower that's
18:00 - 18:30 under shot trying to show these charts literally charts to look at just like Donald Trump apparently Donald Trump like can't actually read so his aids just had to bring him infographs and charts and you know stuff like that to make the point and they're the same way they're like "But look at the chart there's five charts on the Wall Street Journal that prove what I'm saying is right bro." Uh yeah and then you have this dumbass over here did you hear him donald Trump got shot trying to show these charts the [ __ ] Let's play that again oh my god biden trump got shot
18:30 - 19:00 trying to show these charts literally this is October of 2023 go to the next one a guy who was registered here's another one for you let me just show the data and then I want you to say what you want to say go a little bit lower with the data R no cuz he said it's inaccurate this is another one here go back up go back up to the go to the last one go to the last one and this is why you're fighting from such an insane disadvantage when you go on a show like that because they've just said like five things that aren't true sam has made an attempt to debunk all of
19:00 - 19:30 them they've steamrolled right over him and now they're going to show him some selective data that makes one of their points out of a litany of brazen lies and he's going to have to try and backpedal and uh you know come up with a response as he's being showed manipulated data go to the top one here i mean this is the numbers you're talking about so this is you start one by one go up explain every one of them yeah go ahead yeah you can see that this is what constitutes
19:30 - 20:00 illegal immigration these are if it was an open border you would not have these numbers you would not have the numbers to know when Title 42 ends more people are coming to the border and they're being put into a system period that's the best part about and and that's so that's the because they were told to come Sam let me explain something when when your president says come to the country you're going to yell all time no I'm not yelling you're just give me facts not say come to the country remember when Kla Harris's vice president said do not come like you are
20:00 - 20:30 not welcome here stay in Guatemala [ __ ] like remember when she said that it was a huge scandal even us lefties you know made a big deal about how inhumane it was right um but that's what I remember from the Biden administration i must have missed the day that Biden said "Please please everyone come everyone cross the border." Bro Kla Harris literally ran basically a Republican border state ad that was like "We're going to militarize the [ __ ] out of Republican border state." Yeah or
20:30 - 21:00 Republican border state yeah literally was 100% it was like "We're going to outright the right." You know what I mean you think Trump's going to be hard on border look at what Joe Biden did you know to deport even more people and look at how ruthless he was and the radical crazy left wanted him to do away with title 42 months before he did it because he knows business and he's here to strangle hold the American border just like Donald Trump right and then Kla Harris went and doubled down with all of that [ __ ] too
21:00 - 21:30 turn down his microphone because he can yeah just see which one he is i think he's se three or which one is it c3 cat three cat three go ahead lower that right there and then the mic right there there you go is that good is that good c2 there you go okay go for it all right go ahead good okay go ahead all right so you're still going to hear the truth though go ahead no no I'm happy to you can't turn down the truth no you can't open border would mean that we have no records of people coming across the border the law in this country has been
21:30 - 22:00 that if you uh put your foot in this country it's a it's an international law it's a US law if you put the your foot in this country and you apply for asylum you are due a process to do that 98% of of those people who are then what you guys would call catch and release come back for their hearings we are woefully understaffed in terms of like immigration judges and that process is
22:00 - 22:30 definitely broken i would love to see more money spent in the processing of these people so that we can establish which ones like your family like my family as well illegal immigrants no no but but came in through a refugee status they weren't citizens on day one they came in they went through a process and they and it's possible at that time i mean I remember you know I was old enough to remember the Iran hostage situation i remember the the fallout wow
22:30 - 23:00 flex afterwards there may have been some form of temporary uh protected status whatever it was at the time that allows people to come in then they're assessed and processed it's determined that yes their claim for asylum is appropriate or not etc etc that's what we're looking at there as you as you scroll up on those other other charts you can see when when Title 42 ends which was only supposed to be an
23:00 - 23:30 emergency situation for have that has to do with health and you can't have it both ways either ends or it the left-wingers going on these shows like even Sam Cedar you're not going to find a better debater than Sam Cedar you're not going to find a better communicator of leftwing ideas in my opinion um but I almost feel like he's just too smart almost for these people and their audience like the audience wants people to just yell like Vinnie and be like "The people they're flooding across the border." And like 5 seconds into Sam's actual explanation for what's going on their eyes have probably already glazed
23:30 - 24:00 over you know what I mean he's probably already lost him because he's not beating his chest and screaming about how you know illegals are taking over it's like how how do you actually fight this like I almost feel like we need a left-wing version of one of these dudes you know one of these Vinnie types one of these PPD types who will just be stupid but in a left-wing way like cuz it seems like there's a real appetite for that right now like someone who's just a dumbass someone who's just stupid who doesn't make an intellectual case at all for the policies they're arguing um
24:00 - 24:30 but can just kind of bellow and you know be annoying but I guess I guess Zach is you know he's like I think that's I'll answer the call everyone you I was telling Gavin I think it would be really fun if we ever got invited on Tim Pool because then we could just go in with brat sunglasses and like a six-ack of Miller highlights crush some beers at 11 and just be huge douchebags to his entire uh crew you know all of the just go in there and be mean just go in there and bulldoze over the top of them just
24:30 - 25:00 be like we're the left and we're [ __ ] proud but we're angry as [ __ ] at you i think there's the place for that i did want to skip ahead unless you had uh the time stamp for that TYT shout out uh just to get Sam's uh you know discourse on the Kla Harris 2024 because that was also kind of spicy the one that I thought would be funny to listen to is starts at around 4028 if you want to go there it's not very long sure um but yeah that one's pretty funny this is where uh Oh and you'll have to tab back a few but yeah uh this is that's good that this is where really weird exchange
25:00 - 25:30 uh uh maybe you know you'll make something different of it than I did but it just stuck in my memory as a weird moment where Patrick like like I just don't even understand what he's trying to get from Sam or but it's just a good example of how like even when Sam is saying something totally innocuous patrick's still like looking for a gotcha somehow but take a look people rich people are bad people and they're probably not making a lot of money and they come to Sam to save them hey let's trash and bash rich people
25:30 - 26:00 because this is what we got to do yes Sam let's go after the rich people but in reality are you talking about me because we just had our biggest month and and when people uh on You had the biggest month because of Jubilee jub you were on Jubilee and you were on that show going back up no you were on Jubilee and Jubilee gave you a lot of eyeballs so Jubilee brought a lot of traffic a lot of people agreed a lot of I mean I mean a lot of people agreed did more agree or disagree i would say a lot more agreed well you would say that because you're in it so I
26:00 - 26:30 mean you want me to do metrics we had our biggest subscription i believe you because Jubilee helped you okay but my point is is that credit to you should say thank you to Jubilee that's a that's a very Thank you Jubilee i would also add that like I think it's like a JD Vance remover you know what where where's your gratefulness i literally think he got that from JD i think he's been you know looking up to these loser [ __ ] and now he just is copying them like a child like you know like a when when you when some [ __ ] [ __ ] kid has a really [ __ ] dad and the
26:30 - 27:00 [ __ ] kid starts to say the same phrases and repeat the same bigoted language you know just to be like his dad that's what's happening he's like "Say thank you to Jubilee." Imagine looking at JD Vans and being like I want to be like him [ __ ] loser with mascara and [ __ ] eyeliner on jesus Christ there are definitely people who watch my show and then over a period of time are going I disagree with Sam and proudly those people move to the left of
27:00 - 27:30 where I'm at you think people move to the left of you 100% sam I am an example of that i think so is Gavin i think there are times where we have found ourselves to the left of Sam Cedar on an issue or two and I just chalk it up to the fact that you know we're young youthful spry and radical yeah sam's just like a very standard liberal you know left-wing liberal you know what I'm saying they act like he is this avatar of like the most extremist leftism ever imagined it's so funny do you realize Do you
27:30 - 28:00 realize how how to to make a statement i And I love that you said it oh it's true i love that you said it so you think people who age and live longer they go further to the left than to the right you think as people mature in life am I the oldest person on this no you're not but you pretty close I bet no you you're pretty far it's just the other guy looks very young but you you as you go he's 16 this poor [ __ ] bastard who gets cut
28:00 - 28:30 to awkwardly he's like "Oh that's the old bastard on the This guy is crusty AF and his tastes are dog shit." Yeah he also is the least entertaining to like watch like I don't even know this guy's name yeah at least the other dude is like an idiot bobblehead and Vinnie gets all red and worked up this guy just says a bunch of blasze regurgitated horseshit it's like you could have been big on conservative radio in the 90s but now you actually have to have some riz power foul yeah also someone in chat just pointed out this guy obviously is dying his hair and most likely using Botox which is you know I mean not to make it
28:30 - 29:00 about looks but I I will say Sam has aged pretty well uh this guy you know not so much oh yeah dude according to many people that I know Sam Cedar has aged very well they that he's considered a very handsome man by most women that I've I mean even by me I I would consider him a very handsome man true you know and uh he uh he's uh I think 59 which is crazy like I would I would guess that he would be like you know 48 48 we're not just trying to flatter Sam Cedar but yeah you know he was mid you
29:00 - 29:30 know okay uh you got me by three years yeah so you're not so you're 59 dude Yeah good for you but but do you think do you think there's people that's the one thing that could unite us all sam looks pretty good for his age hell you know damn bro i do like this guy in the corner he's dumb as [ __ ] and he's just like the reply guy like he's like you know the flavor of Flave to the you know Chuck D of PB you know not to debase
29:30 - 30:00 flavor flave but he's a hype man right he's like the you know the number one dude standing next to you be like "Yeah what he said." You know what I mean but even then he just chimes in and he's like "Damn dog real recognize real you stay good bro you look good bro." Also this is most of what I wanted to react to from that exchange it was kind of just the Jubilee thing and then you know obviously this whole exchange is stupid but um we can fast forward to the next point yeah this is the last thing I want to get to before we get into the Russell Brand stuff but I thought this was another good moment from Sam
30:00 - 30:30 according to Hulu studies suggest all right i I undersold it a little bit according to who according to You can spend time attacking the people do these calculations do you need me to tell you more about that well I'm just cur Yeah I'm I'm just curious to what just rando tariffs applied in a willy-nilly fashion that crash the the economy so wait you don't So you don't think the tariffs that Trump is and I get it that's exact the tariffs are exactly what America
30:30 - 31:00 needs right now because Donald Trump just put out a video this morning saying that he was crashing our economy on purpose and these guys are still defending his actions okay there is no Crystal Ball put it very well she was like "There are no honest actors in media that can tell you why he is doing the tariff structures in this way most people speculate that it was the response of chat GPT and a prompt that he sent in and it spit out this chart that's why he's got uh you know the island that was only inhabited by [ __ ] penguins on the list and all
31:00 - 31:30 that stupid which at one point they try to deny at some point when Sam brings that up and then they try to make them look stupid and they're like all these countries have people living in them nope one of them only has freaking penguins and scientists that live on it which means there's no market and there's no commerce that's moving and certainly no exports that are coming from it but they don't care about any of that they're just going to start at the end point that Donald Trump is right and what he's doing is good for the economy and they're going to work backwards and when they get something wrong they're going to stop talking about it they're going to move on to the next thing it's just a shiny object uh game for
31:30 - 32:00 them let's just go to the border what he did with the border with Mexico with the tariffs what happened to fentanyl what happened to all the deaths what happened to all those illegals that are What do you mean he threatened them and they went through fentanyl comes across the border at ports of entry fentanyl because it comes from China fentanyl comes across the border not in illegals crossing the desert it comes in Oh really coyotes really comes in it comes in at ports of How the [ __ ] would a coyote have [ __ ] fentinel like what
32:00 - 32:30 is that how would that even be relevant to the job that they're doing yeah it's crazy i mean it's already dangerous enough you're not going to just start smuggling drugs on top of it guys struggle cops can't even be in the same room as it or else they start breaking out in hives you know those videos of those cops like we're like we were we touched fentinol and now we have to the rush to the ER it's crazy it's crazy most of what is uh sent over from Mexico at this point is is definitely not fentinyl and it's not weed either it's like uh I think it's a lot of amphetamines is what's mostly like being
32:30 - 33:00 trafficked by the cartels at this point but people who are bigger experts than me on that i'm sure some of it's fentinol but like that's not the Yeah Sam's right that's not the primary like if you're concerned about the fentinol trade then there are much better ways to deal with the problem than just like deporting innocent people in America and having an incredibly cruel approach to our border security 100% and I guarantee way more fentinol is coming from the oceans like coming into the ports on ships on container ships all these
33:00 - 33:30 tariffs that's why we got to do these tariffs act to just prevent them to deter them vietnam they were sending too much fentinel cambodian fentinel was destroying our nation had to had to punish the Turkish and they've been bad they've been very bad now we're gonna be very good go Google that Sam i don't need to Google when it's like you said you voted for a you voted for someone you're coming up with these policies the worst pick ever the biggest
33:30 - 34:00 loss ever she lost everything because your side you're talking about it wasn't that [ __ ] big of a loss she lost by like two percentage points these Trump people think they won in a Reagan style you know 48 state landslide bro she didn't even lose by that [ __ ] bat also Donald Trump lost the [ __ ] popular vote the first time he won he's only ever won it one single time so chill on the bragging a little bit let's watch you're acting like your whole side was surprised that Biden
34:00 - 34:30 wasn't there everybody knew including you he wasn't there at all but you guys are like he's just not Trump the the worst president in the history of the world yeah you mean he's not the guy that's shredding our constitution and tanking our [ __ ] economy right now i feel pretty good about my decision to pull the lever for Kla Harris oh 100% i feel more vindicated in our coverage of that race every day of this country four years because you guys were pretending that he was all there and we knew it and who was making all the decisions who was
34:30 - 35:00 making all the decisions who was signing all the [ __ ] who was signing off how many times did you have to see Biden sitting there and they'd ask him a question and he'd go "Oh I can't because they told me I couldn't he wasn't in charge." Who yeah who was they come on Sam it's like that the most devastating come on bro no sorry i didn't mean to go no you're good i was just making a similar joke go for it i was just going to say that like you know he can't even actually defend what Trump's doing he has to just [ __ ] on Biden it's like oh you don't like what Trump's doing well Biden was barely [ __ ] alive it's like yeah dude that was like that was like a
35:00 - 35:30 year ago dude like we're in a whole new world now um if this is your guy then [ __ ] defend him why are you bringing up a skeleton yeah i mean and and that's exactly what the conservatives do they live in the past when they're in power and uh then they live in an imaginary future when they're seeking power lost the world the country is over it you you guys aren't pivoting okay and if you think the future is Gavin Newsome AOC Bernie Sanders and Jasmine Crockett
35:30 - 36:00 you guys are doomed nothing is going to change and Elon Musk you think Elon Musk is a net positive or net negative you mean the people who are drawing massive crowds right now you mean people who are drawing historic crowds in places like Denver Colorado Tempe Arizona Las Vegas Nevada Los Angeles California uh pretty much all across the country also Gavin Newsome and Bernie Sanders have nothing in common they are represent completely different planks of the Democratic party um to just act like oh like you know there's no difference between the two no
36:00 - 36:30 Gavin Newsome completely sucks and he's right that yeah the Democrats are [ __ ] if they think that's who's going to lead us out of this but Bernie and AOC people with that ideology that actually is populism that's real [ __ ] American populism um and the American people would love it if they ever got a taste of that actual good governance like I said Zag you're you were against the three-term thing you you'd change your tune real quick if uh if Bernie Sanders was president you'd be begging for a fourth term uh I I don't think I would have a principled position i I believe
36:30 - 37:00 in the 22nd amendment um negative for society no I'm kidding yeah doing and pointing out what the hell these people have been screwing us for all these years and he's pointing out you guys are mad at the person pointing out who robbed from you than the actual robber that's the truth bro yeah he's a billionaire you think he's doing it because he needs the money how bad has he found what do you mean how much how much fraud is he fraud yeah what is the person who is going to be indicted for fraud well what about the waste what waste because it's not stop it Sam what
37:00 - 37:30 see they can't point to any singular example by the way guys 3 days ago Elon Musk tweeted that somebody that had stolen you know $400,000 or $400 million from social security was going down and he was like "Arest is imminent." And then nobody went down for fraud it was just complete [ __ ] it was a PR campaign by Elon Musk to deflect attention and then do you know what he did he went and announced that thousands more job cuts are coming to Social Security and I think about that a lot actually cuz my homie that lives next door Josiah has
37:30 - 38:00 been working for Social Security for 10 years it's the one job he's had out of [ __ ] college and he's rightfully really scared that either he him or people that he knows and works with are going to get laid off in [ __ ] mass numbers and then not be able to help people who are desperately clinging to their social security checks as a lifeline and that's the end result of all of this that's what's really scary about all of this is when they say they're cleaning out waste what they're doing is they're getting rid of anything that actually helps working people they're getting rid of anything that actually helps the elderly and doesn't help Elon Musk get rich or it doesn't
38:00 - 38:30 help Donald Trump get richer it doesn't help PBD get richer right when you have to pay somebody to answer the phones all day uh because grandma and grandpa who are on social security checks don't know how to use the internet uh it's really hard for them to get down to the social security office we have perfectly good technology called the telephone that could help these people when something goes wrong it's what they've been accustomed to their entire [ __ ] lives gavin and I have both spent time with our grandparents they're way more adept on the [ __ ] phone than they are with you know their cell phone or you know
38:30 - 39:00 the internet or anything like that so of course those are going to be the vulnerable people who get hit or how about the you know miscellaneous $500,000 here and there that went to US aid to keep people from starving to death and was actually supporting US farmers right you're going to cut that and say that that was waste or the Department of Education that was waste but what's not waste is the hundreds of billions of dollars were given Elon Musk companies are you kidding me guys they just cut the the Sam They cut the agency that provides $295 million to
39:00 - 39:30 museums and libraries you appreciate libraries don't you i know how much we're reading sam you're pinpointing the one good thing that they probably did what about the waste of countries all around the world for LGBTQ agendas in Rwanda or something the money you're talking about do you want money going a fraction of a percentage and if we wanted to get rid of that money there is a way of doing it and that is to have Congress vote and reverse what they uh uh authorized in the first place but to
39:30 - 40:00 have a billionaire come in and decide based upon what his personal preferences are that he's going to cut government in this way I'm sorry that's not democracy he's not even remotely close to it he doesn't have the power to do anything he makes a suggestion why do you think the administration will do it why do you think Americans voted he makes a suggestion and then the uh administration will do i don't know it keeps going on like this for a while we can keep listening if you want to Gavin um or if there's any other segments that you want to skip to by the end oh yeah okay now we can move on um if you want
40:00 - 40:30 to keep watching we definitely can um I think we're probably good we've seen enough and also it's funny that he's like "Why do you think Americans voted for this?" Because they're [ __ ] stupid and because they listen to shows like this one you idiot and they don't know what the [ __ ] is good for them unfortunately as we're about to Do you know that farmers were the number one [ __ ] industry group that supported Donald Trump and now they're all [ __ ] because of these tariffs like have fun yeah that's actually a great point and it proves that people you know can be manipulated right and and people can be
40:30 - 41:00 sold a bunch of lies and I I don't begrudge the farmers in the sense that I want them to suffer right i want to be able to reach them in the future but the sad reality is is that they decided that they were going to go after cheap culture war talking points instead of their you know wallets and I you know potentially there's going to be an opportunity to change their mind coming up in the next election but yeah it is crazy that's a great point about the farmers Gavin it's genuinely insane it's genuinely insane it's not like this was unexpected like Trump is doing exactly what he said he was going to do with
41:00 - 41:30 these tariffs um yeah this is not unpredictable this is exactly what people warned would happen i remember everyone freaking out and you know running around with their hair on fire when Kamla you know was running against Trump people saying like "If these tariffs actually happen it's going to really [ __ ] people you know it's going to actually increase the cost of goods significantly it's going to cause a recession." Um and and no one cared and everyone was just like "Lol what are you talking about?" Nah yeah I'm still going to be able to get my bananas for a dollar or whatever the [ __ ] I've become used to um nothing will change yeah and
41:30 - 42:00 this is from the Midas Touch Network on October 29th so about a week before the election and here's Elon Musk spelling it out trump ally Elon Musk warns of necessary economic collapse if Trump is elected uh which is pretty crazy because then we have this morning Donald Trump coming out and then the roller on my [ __ ] thing doesn't work very well here we go trump shares video about how he is purposefully crashing the stock market so they did come out here and tell everybody this was the plan they were talking about how growing pains
42:00 - 42:30 were going to ensue and people just believed them they just were like "Oh it's the art of the deal trump's a businessman he's going to make China respect us again." And I just can't believe that so many people fell for it right so many people fell for it after we'd already been sold the same [ __ ] magic beans before and nothing grew right you know what I mean donald Trump already had four years of saying the stupid [ __ ] and all he's done the second time around is be more brazen more corrupt and more foolish yep yep and just overall less impressive in
42:30 - 43:00 every way like it's it's crazy it seems like the first term he at least like had some sort of a plan and now it's just total total just you know chaos like I don't even think anyone in the Republican party is defending these ter like actually defends these terrorists i'm sure they are publicly on TV and stuff but like as far as actual Republicans in the Senate or the House or even in the [ __ ] White House internally they're all like what the [ __ ] is going on this is a complete disaster uh but they're terrified of
43:00 - 43:30 speaking out because Trump is so vindictive right and they're terrified of his pettiness but yeah yeah lol terrified no it's crazy he's just lead he's like the Pied Piper leading the whole [ __ ] party and potentially the whole country to its demise yeah the only thing that I could try and imagine that he's doing is that he's intentionally creating so much chaos so that it creates the environment where he's able to do even more power grabs
43:30 - 44:00 right he's consolidating everything uh and that's what's really terrifying right this is kind of the early stages of fascism i want to even say the middle stages of fascism right because he's gotten back to power he's decided that he doesn't care about our constitutional rights he's in broad daylight violating one of them and he is beginning to violate a second one which is the 22nd amendment which he might just decide doesn't apply to him until he already wins another [ __ ] election if he does win another election if we even have elections which is also something that I'm getting more and more afraid of what
44:00 - 44:30 if we get into an economic downturn and then the only way that Trump sees as the the next step for our country to make the world respect us again is we get into a hot war and then it's martial law and we suspend elections and all kinds of [ __ ] it's just it's horrifying um and and it really will let your brain spiral out of control if you go down the rabbit hole but we're going to keep an eye on everything i thought Sam did as good of a job as you possibly could though or yesterday on PBD kind of batting down some of those talking points yeah yeah
44:30 - 45:00 um I don't know i kind of wish he could just have an exchange with one of these guys at a time because I do feel like it being like sixon-one made it a little bit hard for him to really compete with just the torrent of [ __ ] that was being thrown at him like obviously we know that Sam was obviously 100% on point but I do worry that some people that watch that it would just look like he's getting teamed up on so much and everything he says they have like six stupid [ __ ] retorts to um so I I don't know how that would have Do you think like your average normie or even
45:00 - 45:30 right leaning listener do you think Sam Cedar won them over with that um it's tough to say right and I don't know how YouTube categorizes top comments but these are the ones that I've been suggested over here so uh they all seem to be relatively positively directed at Sam's here uh it's hard to win an argument with a smart person but it's damn near impossible to win an argument with a stupid person and that's a Bill Murray quote and that was 100% referencing Sam arguing with Dude that is the perfect application of that quote holy [ __ ] that's exactly what I've been trying to say this whole time yeah exactly and then obviously somebody else
45:30 - 46:00 pointed out Sam's second jubilee this year amazing someone said somewhere Steven Crowder is watching this in the safety of his bedroom under a blanket just happy it isn't him again uh it was glorious to see every time PBD crew accused Sam lying about something they look it up online only to prove Sam was 100% accurate it happened at least a dozen times in this vid uh angry patriot dude was about to burst a blood vessel how do I turn down Vinnie's microphone uh damn the comment section is not on PBD side the first episode was way
46:00 - 46:30 better guys you were so unclassy on this one but thanks again for having him on sincerely they were hella unclassy the comment section gives me hope for our society thank you everyone actually listening with an objective ear how can you call yourself a capitalist and not fundamentally understand what a tariff is and how it works this was like watching a high school teacher try and give his lessons to a screaming classroom not letting him talk is crazy someone says "Let me ask you 40 questions and then interrupt you 5 seconds into your first answer oh and if you start talking about something I know
46:30 - 47:00 nothing about I'm just going to change the topic immediately." Uh a couple of questions like that but these are all with massive amounts of up votes these are real uh popular opinions literally no one on this panel except for Sam actually understood what a trade deficit or tariff is um yeah that's crazy so I hope that obviously Sam has a huge army of stands on YouTube and I imagine that they showed up and showed out during this PBD exchange but to have absolutely no PBD defenders rising up to the top I think that is a good sign or as good a
47:00 - 47:30 sign as any that Sam performed well there's no one being like "Look at this dumb lefty." Yeah no that's a that's great to see um Sam definitely killed it and I guess one thing I would just like to see is I would like to see more of these right-wing idiots come on to Sam's turf you know I feel [Music]
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