Schooling Globers - Episode 31 (Electric Field)

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Summary

In episode 31 of "Schooling Globers" by Witsit Gets It, the concept of Earth's electric field is explored in-depth. The episode suggests that the observed linear voltage gradient challenges the conventional globe model, which predicts a radial distribution of electric charge that decreases with distance. The discourse also implicates electric forces as fundamental to understanding gravity on a flat Earth model, offering explanations for observed phenomena like potential gradients and electromagnetic mechanisms replicating gravity. The episode attempts to provide a coherent and testable explanation for these phenomena, questioning well-accepted scientific models and encouraging listeners to rethink traditional concepts.

Highlights

The episode suggests the conventional globe model cannot explain Earth's uniform vertical electric field. 🌐
Hot air balloon experiments show linear voltage gradients, opposing spherical expectations. 🎈
Electromagnetic experiments replicate natural phenomena like gravity, hinting at a possible cause. 🧲
Current electric field theories might need revising according to observed phenomena. 🔄
Audience questions on Discord challenge and refine the presentation, sparking deeper discussion. 💬

Key Takeaways

The Earth has a linear voltage gradient that challenges the spherical globe model. 🌍
Conventional models fail to account for the consistency of this gradient across vast distances. 🤔
The observed increase in potential away from Earth's surface suggests a different configuration than previously thought. 📈
Replicating Earth's electric field on a sphere in a lab doesn't match observed data. 🔬
Electricity may play a bigger role in gravitational forces than traditionally believed. ⚡

Overview

In episode 31 of "Schooling Globers," the host Witsit Gets It dives into the topic of Earth's electric field, proposing that the observed linear voltage gradient directly contradicts the spherical globe model's predictions. The episode invites us to reconsider how we perceive Earth's charges, suggesting that a flat Earth model may more accurately describe observed electrical phenomena.

Witsit uses evidence from hot air balloon experiments measuring ionization and potential gradients to bolster his argument. He references well-known physicist Richard Feynman's surprise at these measurements, illustrating how these findings caught the scientific community off guard. This data challenges expectations of radial distributions around a sphere, highlighting discrepancies in conventional understanding.

The episode goes further to speculate on the role of electromagnetic forces in what we traditionally understand as gravity. By replicating these conditions in a lab using parallel plates and examining the results, Witsit suggests that electromagnetism can fully account for gravitational effects observed on Earth. This narrative encourages listeners to actively question and engage with established principles in science, using the Earth's electric field as a focal point for discussion.

Chapters

00:00 - 00:30: Introduction Episode 31 kicks off with an introduction sequence that welcomes listeners to the show with energy and music.
00:30 - 01:00: Transcript Overview This chapter titled 'Transcript Overview' seems to reflect on the essence of scientific exploration and philosophical inquiries. The text uses metaphorical language with phrases like 'days of days', 'science just a pict making theories they just can't explain', and 'philosophically bias CL days of days'. These lines suggest a contemplation of the limitations and biases inherent in scientific and philosophical pursuits. Additionally, the phrase 'we break away just like a renade' implies a sense of breaking free from these constraints. The use of 'renade' could be a typo or a poetic twist of the word 'renegade', reinforcing the theme of nonconformity and breaking away from established norms.
01:00 - 01:30: Debate Framework This chapter titled 'Debate Framework' discusses the schooling system and societal perceptions around education. It highlights the mentality of acquiring diplomas and the associated attitudes, especially around debates. The text indicates that once someone acknowledges a broader perspective (referred to here as "mind solar system disclosure"), they can't revert to their previous state of understanding. It also touches on the dynamics between those who are educated ('scholars') and those who follow them ('followers'), who provide support ('dollars'). The chapter acknowledges the conflict and criticism that accompanies new ideas or revelations, implying resilience in the face of attacks against unconventional thought.
01:30 - 02:00: Electric Field Explanation The chapter titled 'Electric Field Explanation' discusses the concept of electric fields, hinting at the complexity and the philosophical biases that may influence scientific explanations. It suggests a need for critical thinking beyond traditional educational systems, represented by 'grade school.' The transcript emphasizes breaking away from conventional ways of thinking ('break away like a grenade'), encouraging attention to new ideas despite its fragmented and poetic presentation.
02:00 - 02:30: Electric Field on Earth The chapter begins with an introduction by AIC Productions, setting the stage for a discussion about electric fields on Earth. However, the transcript provided cuts off shortly after the initial setup, leaving much of the content unexplored in the summary.
02:30 - 03:00: Replication of Electric Fields The chapter discusses the process of engaging with a live stream, focusing on inviting people who believe in the Earth as a spinning globe to join the stage in a Discord server. The speaker mentions ways to support the stream via kofi.com and interacts with the audience in real-time through Discord's Earth Awakenings channel. The main theme revolves around discussion and interaction regarding views on Earth's shape and characteristics.
03:00 - 03:30: Challenges to Electric Field Theory In the chapter titled 'Challenges to Electric Field Theory', the discussion centers around the concept of the electric field and its implications on existing Earth models. The host intends to challenge the traditional globe model by presenting arguments and evidence to demonstrate why the electric field as understood in conventional physics cannot exist on a spherical Earth. The chapter involves breaking down complex theories related to electric fields, supplemented by video content, and inviting audience participation to explore and debate these ideas further.
03:30 - 04:00: Cosmology and Electric Fields The chapter begins with a brief introduction and setup of a presentation focused on cosmology and electric fields. The presenter is getting everything ready for the audience, including switching screens to display the presentation properly on Discord.
04:00 - 04:30: Discussion and Q&A The chapter titled 'Discussion and Q&A' explores the concept of the electric field as it would exist on a global scale. It references visual depictions and lectures that delve into the precision of these representations. The chapter mentions a representation by the Air Force, which surpasses the current depiction but hasn't been discussed due to pending discussions with an Air Force representative. The focus is on simple explanatory models of the electric field on a globe.
04:30 - 05:00: Debunking Spherical Earth Hypothesis The chapter discusses the increase in voltage gradient as one moves up from the surface of the Earth, noting that it increases by 100 volts per meter. This phenomenon has been verified through various methods such as using electrometers on hot air balloons, capacitors, and voltmeters at different altitudes. Additionally, a visual from the fman lecture shows how the electric field conforms around a person standing on the ground, illustrating the concept further.
05:00 - 05:30: Rebuttals and Critique This chapter discusses the concept of grounding and how it relates to the transfer of electric charge. Grounding is described as the process of connecting a charged object to the Earth to discharge the excess charge safely. The chapter explains that when an object is connected to the ground, the charge is discharged into the ground. However, if the ground connection is removed, the object may begin to accumulate charge again from the surrounding environment. This process emphasizes the importance and function of grounding in managing electrical charges.
05:30 - 06:00: Empirical Evidence and Experiments The chapter discusses the concept of equipotential surfaces on Earth, where there is an equal voltage increase per meter (100 volts/meter), and how this principle applies to grounded metal plates, which can have the same surface charge as the Earth.
06:00 - 06:30: Electromagnetism and Gravity The chapter discusses the interaction between electromagnetism and gravity, illustrated through an experiment involving two parallel plates. The plates create an electric gradient, which can be manipulated to flip the polarity of the field. This manipulation demonstrates objects floating, showcasing the natural inclination towards downward movement due to gravity when the conditions are changed. The chapter emphasizes the concepts of electric fields, polarity, and gravitational force.
06:30 - 07:00: Capacitor and Electric Field Demonstrations This chapter discusses the demonstration of electric fields using a Van de Graaff generator. The setup involves two parallel horizontal metal plates, with the Van de Graaff generator connected to create an electric field. By connecting the negative end to the top plate and using a belt mechanism to create friction and build up charge, the polarity of the electric field can be flipped. This causes objects, including plastic, to move upward, demonstrating the interaction with the electric field.
07:00 - 07:30: Scientific Challenges and Explanations In this chapter, the discussion centers around a scientific experiment demonstrating the impact of manipulating electrostatic fields. Various small objects like iron filings, hair, paint chips, and styrofoam, regardless of their insulating properties, can be made to move upwards when subjected to a changing electrostatic field. Although the demonstration uses a small generator, it effectively illustrates the causal mechanism behind downward acceleration, commonly referred to as gravity. The key takeaway is the experimental validation that altering the electrostatic field can change the direction of objects, underlining a deeper understanding of gravitational forces.
07:30 - 08:00: Summary and Closing Remarks The chapter discusses the concept of a voltage gradient between two parallel plates. It is explained visually by depicting the gradient rising from Earth's surface. Videos will be shown to illustrate this linear voltage gradient, which increases with distance from the earth. The summary concludes by highlighting the seeming impossibility of maintaining a linear voltage gradient around a spherical object.

Schooling Globers - Episode 31 (Electric Field) Transcription

00:00 - 00:30 going globers episode 31 let's get [Music] it
00:30 - 01:00 [Music] days of days science just a pict making theories they just can't explain philosophically bias CL days of days we break away just like a renade
01:00 - 01:30 to pay attention going to get a school and tell they all schooling glob with diplomas and a chip on the shoulder debate is over mind solar system disclosure can't go back once you heard the make a pack never take the schooling Ballers and the followers that give them the dollars they try to holler in the chat that you're a f not a scholar they ha y that's why they attack the Earth is no matter how I days of
01:30 - 02:00 dayso science just a BCT making the they just can't explain on philosophically bias CLE days of days we break away just like a renade so pay attention going to get a grade school and Globus tell they all way
02:00 - 02:30 [Music] [Applause] [Music] AIC Productions in a world all right what's going on uh per usual ual if you want to let me actually
02:30 - 03:00 I always forget for a second let me unmute all right we're good in Discord pretty usual if you want to support the stream uh kofi.com whtz it it'll pop up we'll read it also if you want to join the stream we let people that think that the Earth is in fact the spinning globe that we've been taught we give them priority to pop up on the stage you just join the Discord raise your hand and we'll bring you up um and the link is in the description that's Earth Awakenings on Discord the link straight to the stage that that we're on hosting the
03:00 - 03:30 show is in the description as always so go ahead and join if you want to jump on the show and then as always when we open it up we want it to be on the topic of the show if you see the title it is about the electric field we have kind of covered that before I uh feel like some people don't fully get it yet I want to kind of break it down play a couple videos and open it up so if you do want to come on I'm going to present the information as to how the electric fill on the earth is actually Impossible on the sphere we were told that we live on so that's the specific reputation of the globe model so we are hoping that
03:30 - 04:00 someone will come and address that specifically um cool and that's about it so we're just going to jump right into it let me switch my screen over for Discord so they see the presentation bang bang and then we'll come over here to the full screen all right all right school and globers episode 31 the electric field and the subtitle here is is the Earth electric
04:00 - 04:30 field possible on a globe let's check it out so this is a depiction of the electric field we're going to pull up fan lectures we have been do this a few times like I said but I think this is one of the most precise reputations of the globe I've come across a very uh specific reputation of the globe recently that I think may actually be above this one but I didn't want to bring that one out yet I'm supposed to meet and talk to the guy from the Air Force a bit more before we go over it so anyway um this is just pretty simple right so we have a
04:30 - 05:00 voltage gradient okay and it increases 100 volts per meter up from the surface of the Earth this has been verified many different ways electrometers on hot air balloons that have capacitors attached to them um voltmeters at different altitudes there are many different ways to measure this um and like I said this is a screenshot from the fman lecture so if you see here as the guy stands on the ground the electric field basically conforms around him that's because he's
05:00 - 05:30 connected to the ground and so as you acquire charge and you're connected to the ground the charge is discharged into the ground right the surface of the Earth this is why we connect things to the ground and call it grounding it um it's to discharge it right to facilitate the charge to the ground soon as you take the charge off or soon as you take the um the ground off of whatever object it is it'll begin to charge back up because it will actually um gain charge from the ambient environment so this is is what we have
05:30 - 06:00 on the earth and if you look very carefully you have the ground and you have parallel uh voltage lines basically right you have a gradient and you have what's called equip potential surfaces there's an equal amount of potential increase per distance and in this it's 100 volts per meter every meter you have 100 volts increase it's an equal potential increase so it's called an equip potential surface or an equipotential Line This is what we have on the earth if you see here here's a depe of a grounded metal plate and it will have the same surface charge as the Earth if the plate is covered with a
06:00 - 06:30 grounded conductor it will have no surface charge so you see here we have two parallel plates um if you've seen the level documentary the most recent one I actually uh do an an experiment um where I show that you can take two metal plates create um electric gradient between the two and you can actually flip the polarity of the field and make objects floats showing that the natural uh situation is that it's going to go down of course it's more in the air and
06:30 - 07:00 there's also just a naturally occurring electric field which is what we're discussing here as you put put the two parallel um horizontal metal plates and flip the field and you do this by using a vandergraph generator that's what I used I put the negative end of the vandag graph generator on the top plate and as I began to spin the wheel it's a little um belt that creates friction that builds up charge it flips the polarity of the field the object will then go up you can do this with pretty much any object all right whether that be plastic
07:00 - 07:30 uh little iron filings hair paint chips you styrofoam you name it doesn't matter if it's insulator if it's rubber doesn't really matter it'll still go up now it has to be smaller cuz the vog graph generator I used was small but nevertheless it's just a demonstration showing that if you manipulate the independent variable of the electrostatic field you can flip the direction objects go so this is of course an experimentally valid demonstration of the causal mechanism of downward acceleration commonly referred to as gravity now what's important here
07:30 - 08:00 is that you see that you have two parallel plates in order to have this uh voltage gradient and here's another depiction of it coming up from Earth's surface from the sea level so and we're going to get into a few videos we're going to play but we have a linear voltage gradient that increases a away from the earth so away from the surface as we see here right here right it increases away from the earth 100 volts 200 volt 300 volt we have a linear voltage gradient that increases away from the earth which is entirely impossible around a sphere a
08:00 - 08:30 sphere will have a radial distribution of charge away from the surface in addition we actually have a uniform vertical electric field um and this the the antecedent of this is perpendicular plates so what's perpendicular to Vertical it is of course horizontal so you need two horizontal plates that are parallel to each other to to actually replicate the field that we have on this on the earth of course I did that in level documentary veritasium has done it you can do it at home it's very easy to
08:30 - 09:00 replicate it understanding that the surface is a plane of course that's what that's what they did here and actually they did this when they sent the balloon up and this is actually what capacitors are literally capacitors have two parallel plates that that utilize this fact this Vol voltage gradient right to give us power that's what a capacitor does and that's how it works effectively you live within a capacitor and that's what the evidence shows and that's what would happen on the plain Earth so the major problem here and you will see that there's obviously a contrast between the two stat stats one is that it's a linear
09:00 - 09:30 voltage gradient and then in the alternative with a conductive sphere you place that with an electric field you're going to have radial distribution okay and of course this charge is going to decrease the further away you get from the surface of that sphere so you're going to have a drop off as you get away from the surface and you're going to have a radial distribution basically this is a way to conceptualize that you'll have concentric circles so you see the this the interior Circle would be the the Earth being a sphere and and then you have this out um Outer Circle
09:30 - 10:00 that they uh depict as the osphere here you would have tons of little concentric circles with in between the two and each circle would get bigger and bigger right so that would create a greater volume now the charge is going to distribute away from the surface feeling the greater and greater volume and it's going to distribute regularly right because it's a sphere and so it's going to drop off as you get away from the surface now what do we see in reality we actually see that the voltage gradient increases away from the surface again if we were on a conductive
10:00 - 10:30 sphere we would have concentric equip potential surfaces there would be a radial distribution and there would be a drop off away from the surface but rather we see uh parallel horizontal equipotential surfaces we see a uniform electric field we see a linear voltage gradient and we see an increase away from the surface and again this is this is the depiction that you will find online um but admittedly no one really understands it within the sphere Paradigm so here
10:30 - 11:00 are the questions that we have tonight the first one is why does the electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth and there should be another one yep second question is why is the electric voltage gradient on the earth linear now there are many sub questions right like why is it uniform why do we have a uniform vertical electric field how do you have a a uniform vertical electric field without um two perpendicular surfaces that are pair parallel to one another now of course
11:00 - 11:30 all this is easy explained on a plane here there's some type of surface above us that we do not have access to it's parallel to the ground and uh this is why you have it increased from the surface this is why you have a linear distribution this is why you have a uniform distribution it's a major problem for a sphere again it will be radial it will not be uniform and you do not have the antecedent of the parallel gajian surfaces so we've covered this quite a bit some of this may have gone over your head I encourage anyone to uh at me with any types of questions we're going to open it up in a second so we'll make sure that people can fully
11:30 - 12:00 understand it uh this is an absolute death blow to the sphere um this is absolute death blow to the claim that a plain Earth could not explain the phenomena referred to as gravity um and we'll get into more of those specifics and some of the typical uh contentions that people use and show what's wrong with them but again this is a very straightforward question here right why does the electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth why is the electric voltage gradient on the earth linear and this is within in the context of someone that
12:00 - 12:30 believes the Earth's a sphere wouldn't it be a radial distribution of charge wouldn't it decrease as you get further away from the surface of the Earth the answer is of course yes so I want to show you guys a couple videos so I think we'll start with this one this guy actually um he runs what's called a Corona motor it's an electrostatic generator he does this utilizing this uh vertical uh field on the Earth right so he uses the um linear
12:30 - 13:00 voltage gradient to actually run this generator very fascinating he kind of breaks it down gives you some depictions so it is 5 minutes long but I'm going to watch it hopefully the Discord can hear it I think they should be able to once I switch over to YouTube for them and let me come over here bang all right so everyone should be able to hear it just give me feedback in the YouTube chat or the Discord chat if you guys can't hear it and then I will be back hi gang I'd previously demonstrated
13:00 - 13:30 generating power using atmospheric electricity a hexacopter was used to lift one end of a wire high up into the air meanwhile the other end of the wire was connected to a Corona motor near the ground electricity then flowed Through the Wire and Corona motor making a turn in this video I'm going to explain how it works much of the following explanation is adapted from Nobel prize winning physicist Richard Fan's lecture on physics a section called electricity in the atmosphere for every meter you go up in the air the vol voltage increases by around 100 volt or we could say
13:30 - 14:00 around 100 volts per yard we can draw these voltage increases using what are called equ potential lines notice that the ground is negative and the sky is positive with respect to each other according to Fineman this extends upward to 50 km or 31 Mi where the air is very conductive this is the case in fair weather in stormy weather like a thunderstorm things are quite different and I won't talk about that here but if this voltage exists between your head and the ground why don't don't you get a shock the reason is that your body is a
14:00 - 14:30 good enough electrical conductor that's standing on the ground you're basically a part of the ground the equip potential lines would look like this there's still effectively zero volts between the top of your head and ground similar effects happen with trees buildings and so on what about the electric current the downward electrical current exists and consists of positive ions molecules are clumps of matter that have a positive charge these ions are moving slowly toward the ground the current density from these ions is very small around all
14:30 - 15:00 right we'll use this to point out that there really is no such thing as negative Andor positive charge it's just a concept that we use any physicist wor their assult will tell you that it was an arbitrary determination we have some type of propaganda story about Benjamin frein and stuff that aside it could go either way there are no positives and negatives floating around in the world of course there are no negatives in nature whatsoever right we call the phenomena of charging the process of charging up positive we call the process of discharging negative charge G so they're events they're processes there
15:00 - 15:30 are no actual plus signs or minus signs there are no distinct different types of charges there is just charge and there's the process of charging or discharging but for intensive purposes based on the actual um you know parameters that we kind of have understood electricity so far we'll rock with it I just want to make sure that that's clear because that will actually come up in this discussion almost guaranteed so let's continue molecules are clumps of matter that have a positive charge these ions are moving slowly toward the ground the current density from these ions is very small around 10 micro micro amps or 10 Pico
15:30 - 16:00 amps Crossing each square meter or yard every second so in any small area there's not a lot of power and that's the explanation about atmospheric electricity adapted from Fan's lectures to take advantage of this atmospheric electricity we electrically connect one end of a wire to the ground and lift the other end up into the air in our case we got good results at around 120 M or 390 ft up at 100 volt per meter or 100 volts per yard that's 12,000 volt between that
16:00 - 16:30 height and the ground but just as with you standing on the ground the wire is an electrical conductor and so is also a ground potential looking at the equip potential lines around the wire that voltage of 12,000 volts exists between some distance away from the wire and the wire you can see that the equipotential lines are closest together at the top of the wire this means the attraction is strongest there and electrons make their way upward in The Wire let's look more closely at the top of the wire we'd put six sharp points using so pins at the top of that wire but for EAS of
16:30 - 17:00 illustration I'll draw just one notice that because of the sharp shape at the point the charges are crowded together at that point remember also that there are positively charged ions in the air an electric field exists between the negative charges on the wire and the positive charges in the air and we can represent that electric field by drawing lines between Pairs of opposite charges notice that the electric field lines are closer together near the point meaning the electric field is stronger there it's strong enough to remove the negative electrons from the sharp point where they neutralize positive ions but
17:00 - 17:30 due to the voltage there are fresh positive ions moving downward and fresh negative charges coming up from The Wire we now have electricity flowing through the wire the electric current in that electricity is very weak though we didn't measure it but from my experience with electrostatics I'd estimated it into low microamps or more likely even lower that's not enough to turn an electromagnetic motor one like you use in everyday life but it is enough to turn an electrostatic motor like this Corona motor
17:30 - 18:00 the corona motor consists of a plastic cylinder surrounded by sharp edged metal blades every second one of those blades is connected to the wire going up into the sky that means that when the wire starts conducting those blades are now whatever voltage the top of the wire is up in the sky though opposite in polarity positive that's why you get a shock when you touch one of those wires okay sorry I got to unmute three different things so um we we'll watch the last minute but I
18:00 - 18:30 just want to show you guys this is real life application of it I get that it's kind of dry and the music is uh the songs a real Banger we'll watch last minute then we're going to pop over and we're going to watch my boy good times for ra explain it and then we're going to watch just like a minute and a half of um an MIT professor and then we'll we'll kind of close it up and open it up but um I know that it's maybe a bit hard to pay attention that's why I'm talking real fast just like stick with me this is super important um and once again
18:30 - 19:00 shocker what we see in reality perfectly matches not only a plain Earth's ability to explain it but its exact prediction and we are able to replicate it um this is a major problem for the globe I've talked to a former or physicist that works at CERN I've talked to electrical engineers there there is no answer um so hopefully we'll get one tonight but uh we'll finish this off and then we'll move to the next video negative charge is then pulled from the plastic cylinder through a gap between the edge of the
19:00 - 19:30 blade and the cylinder that leaves a cylinder with the same charge and since light charges repel a repulsion occurs that rotates the cylinder the next blade is connected to Earth ground and becomes negatively charged and since opposite charges Attract it attracts the charged area of the cylinder it then neutralizes that charged area by taking electrons from the ground and that's how atmospheric electricity can power an electrostatic motor like a Corona motor and obviously there's 's a lot of sorry there's obviously a lot of
19:30 - 20:00 conceptual problems with that uh explanation the reification of little spheres you know how they love their little spheres but anyway um I see someone ask if there is a link to the vandegraph generator test um I'm sure someone can drop it go to hibler Productions on YouTube You'll see the level documentary you can uh skip through it till you'll see that I did it um and I'll also show you this while we're at it so this is someone levitating an object and we'll just kind of skip some of this here this is actually a
20:00 - 20:30 conductive object of course and you can do it with anything you can do it with again insulators so you can do it with rubber you can do it with glass you can do it with styrofoam you can do it with paint iron filings you name it um it is actually independent of the specific material that you are using it is manipulating the bias and if that bias of the due to the polarity of the field overcomes the distribution of the object
20:30 - 21:00 relative to its medium that is of course based on density then what we call weight which is a side subject that we can talk about then it will go up so if you see here you're going to see it floating I think he is talking so look first of all this phenomenon is flat up mesmerizing and often small objects can hover perfectly as if held up by a string but this isn't about strings or something that you can see okay obviously if you look here you're going to see that there are two
21:00 - 21:30 parallel plates this is how you replicate it let's listen to my boy good times for all kind of explain it this is just 3 minutes hello everybody out there on YouTube land this is good times for all there Zachary's zala here if you prefer in this video we're going to be taking a look at why the force of gravity is electric potential [Music]
21:30 - 22:00 in a gravitational field matter like a piece of chalk wants to go from high potential to low potential if I just release it with zero speed for all of those that love to appeal to Authority this is not some scrub this is Walter Leen very famous and well revered and respected MIT Professor there it goes high potential to low potential in analogy positive charges will also go from a high
22:00 - 22:30 electric potential to a low electric potential and of course this is unique for electricity negative charges will go from a low potential to a high electric potential so let's really soak that in what he's saying there it's going to actually go where it goes based on potential let's listen to it one more time think about where we live also go from a high electric potential to a low El electric potential and of course this
22:30 - 23:00 is unique for electricity negative charges will go from a low potential to a high electric potential so let's take a look at what Walter Luan is saying and apply it to what we see here on Earth up real fast shout out to run Boston bear I guess he grabbed the level documentary with the time stamp so we'll pop this up as
23:00 - 23:30 well um yeah and this is how science Works you're able to replicate things um don't worry about how goofy I look all right let's finish this up and if you have any questions at me um if I miss it you can always you can just drop a couple bucks and it'll pop up on the screen I should see it if you add me in the chat though we have the ground which is our negative and the electric potential grows 100
23:30 - 24:00 volts every meter it gains an elevation so in the air up here at around 3 m you will have 300 volts per meter of atmosphere if we were to place an object right here at this elevation it would gather the charge surrounding it at 300 volt per meter now if you release it it will accelerate
24:00 - 24:30 down towards the negative because there is a difference in electric potential there it wants to go towards the negative which is the ground this is why we see so many similarities with electric field equations and gravitational field equations because this is how it works this positive above us and negative below
24:30 - 25:00 us is polarizing everything in it and going from the positive to the negative it's that easy and we'll show you here in this demonstration so what I've done here is taken the vandag graph generator to separate the charges but instead of doing it like the Earth is with the positive on top and negative on the bottom I've reversed it so the negative is on the top positive is on the bottom and you will see as I start applying a current here that it will polarize the piece of tissue paper and then become attracted towards the Nega plate okay so this is the same thing
25:00 - 25:30 that I did so again to make sure you understand the way that you have this this vertical voltage gradient that is linear is you have two parallel plates creates a finite volume certain amount of space right so now the charge is going to distribute based on that space it changes at the edges right because you're starting to lose that finite volume and so when we do it mathematically we treat the parallel surfaces as if they are infinite that means that if you're on a plain Earth it
25:30 - 26:00 would begin the electrofield will begin to change at the quote unquote edges wherever that would be if the containment cutes down or whatever if it were to go on infinite it would remain the same everywhere the point here is that what you do is you take this fander graph generator and you put you put the negative on the top which is the opposite of the way it naturally is on the earth and things will actually go up now why is that it would be incredibly naive and ignorant to ignore the role of
26:00 - 26:30 this in why we see things go down on the earth now this is not specifically about gravity per se but it's a two for one here right this shows that we cannot be living on a sphere due to the linear voltage gradient the lack of radial distribution the uniformity of the vertical electric field it also gives you an explanation of gravity so if you pay attention he just flips the polarity of the field by putting the negative plate on the top and of course the plate itself is not negative it's attached to
26:30 - 27:00 the vandag graph generator basically we're discharging on the top plate it flips the polarity and it makes the object go up I will I will address the common rebuttal and you will see there really is no rebuttal this is just negative like the Earth is with the positive on top and negative on the bottom I reversed it so the negative is on the top positive is on the bottom and you will see as I started applying a current here that it will polarize the piece of tissue paper and then become attracted towards the negative plate this is just like we see here in
27:00 - 27:30 reality there is a force that is being created an electrical force it's that simple it really is that simple um here is Walter Luen explaining it a bit more in depth I know we're watching a bunch of videos but I'm trying to give it you the information in different ways so maybe it clicks wonder what the hell holds the nle is together if there is such a tremendous
27:30 - 28:00 force on these protons well what is holding them together are the nuclear forces which we do not fully understand but thank goodness the nuclear forces are not part of 802 so I'll leave that alone for now so what holds our world together well on the nucleus scale 10 Theus 12 CM very important are the nuclear forces on an atomic scale up to thousands of kilometers is really
28:00 - 28:30 electric forces that hold our world together but on a much larger scale planets and stars and the Galaxy it is gravity that holds our world [Music] together this in for a second so it is gravity that holds our world together on the bigger scale is that so so what you're saying is on the actual scale that's accessible
28:30 - 29:00 the actual scale that we experience the one where we don't begin to reify ideas about lights in the sky everything that holds the force that holds everything together is electric but oh now now you're maybe starting to put together why it's not considered viable as an explanation for gravity in the mainstream consensus at the moment why is that because if gravity as it were coined is electrostatic it wouldn't explain what we see in the sky okay it would be way
29:00 - 29:30 too weak for the alleged masses and distances that they claim electrostatics could not cause the motion that we observe Now spoiler alert what we've been told about the sky is incorrect the mediums incorrect the distances is incorrect the masses are incorrect it's a bunch of reified mathematical Concepts the medium itself changes everything but also I would say it appears to be electromagnetic in the sky everything is we just have a voltage El voltage gradient with a uniform vertical
29:30 - 30:00 electric field on the surface of the Earth uh things begin to discharge and that creates the bias so I wanted to point that out just so you understand what he's he's pointing out he's like well on the earth in reality that we can actually test right it's really electric forces that hold everything together but when we get into the giant scale of galaxies and planets all of a sudden it's gravity is needed now they can't define gravity it doesn't work etc but we're not going to get into that I just want to make sure you guys see the difference here we're going to actually discuss the Earth what is the earth what's going on on the earth and then we're not going to jump over into fairy
30:00 - 30:30 tale reify the sky based on mathematical models we're going to stick on the earth and any idea that we come up with cosmologically must conform to actual testable reality that's accessible if it does not it is wrong if it's a paradox it is wrong if it has no evidence it is wrong so he's going to really break down exactly how now I want you to keep in mind right when you have like electrostatic charge what happens well you'll have things quote unquote attract right right really they accelerate towards each other and I want you to
30:30 - 31:00 think about what they claim gravity does and think about would you be able to isolate that I don't want to divert into gravity too much but it does play directly into the field so all right let me come back over and sorry I know Discord couldn't see me while I was talking but
31:00 - 31:30 but on a much larger scale planets and stars and the Galaxy it is gravity that holds our world together okay so pretty simple pretty simple and I guess we will play this real fast why not and and then we're going to um wrap it
31:30 - 32:00 up okay test this we can use something called a Corona motor and whenever we manipulate electrostatics we can make things levitate we can make things go up or down and we can actually change how fast they go down we can also manipulate the weight of an object oh dude I hate hearing myself so the uh the corona motor is what we watched the video about earlier atmospheric electricity it's a Corona motor electrostatic generator simply by manipulating electrostatics and of course that's how science
32:00 - 32:30 actually works as you do an experiment that shows you what the cause of the effect is and you can manipulate electrostatics and cause the effect of downward acceleration commonly referred to as gravity of course I've never seen a test that manipulates space time and you will never see that it doesn't exist everyone thinks that the reason Things Fall is because of gravity but actually everything that exists is electrostatic so when everything things go to the ground they're seeking equilibrium so they go find their B balance on the ground where their charge
32:30 - 33:00 disperses or spreads out in through the ground so we have positive charge in the air we have negative charge on the surface of the Earth or on the ground which is why it's called grounding and then we introduced positive charge and then it went back down to the ground to seek equilibrium this shows that that's actually what objects do when they fall to the ground they go to the ground because of the electric forces and they seek equilibrium on the earth we knew about it at all right cool um let me pop over back
33:00 - 33:30 to this let me explain the PowerPoint one last time and then we're going to open it up and uh I did use obviously I use positive and negative the terminology there it's because the video is to wake people up and we don't have time to divert into that at that time obviously but anyway um I want to I want to cover this one more time so we have a linear voltage grade radi that increases away from the earth which is entirely impossible around the
33:30 - 34:00 sphere okay and you don't have to believe me we can actually look at my boy it is kind of annoying I have to change it on Discord as well all right this is from the fan lectures right and I mean people love to say like oh you think all scientists are wrong and blah blah blah well this is a Nobel prize winning physicist very famous Richard fan and I don't really care about him right this
34:00 - 34:30 evidence is uh tested independent of any individual right and so one I want to show you so uh some of them may be discharged by on collected from the air but the current of these is very small because the air is a poor conductor but it does act as an insulator right and so here we have what we showed you earlier another thing that can be measured in addition to the potential gradient this is the point of this stream right is because this is
34:30 - 35:00 actually impossible this vertical uh voltage gradient but anyway is the current in the atmosphere the current density is small about 10 micro micro amps crosses each square meter parallel to the Earth okay so over a very small area the current is very weak okay makes sense actually right the air is evidently not a perfect insulator and because of this conductivity a small current caused by the electric field we have just been describing passes from the sky down to the Earth right if we come back down here and I've gone
35:00 - 35:30 through this a few times for sure although the electric current density in the air is only a few micro micro amps per square meter there are very many square meters on the Earth's surface the total electric current reaching the Earth's surface at any time is very nearly constant 1800 amps this current of course is quote unquote positive it carries plus charges to the Earth so we have a voltage supply of 400,000 volts with a current of 1,800 amps a power of 700 megaw now it would actually be greater than that if you don't assume the finite distances and dimensions of
35:30 - 36:00 the earth that we were told now the point is that what people will say to you and I just want to give you a few more depictions here and it really I encourage people to read this it really breaks down um when they first checked this out it was a surprise because they went up they weren't expecting it and let's see yeah look to test this Theory some physicists carried an experiment up in
36:00 - 36:30 balloons to measure the ionization of the air that's Hess in 1912 and discovered that the opposite was true the ionization per unit volume increased with altitude that is a major globular problem the apparatus was like that at figure 93 here you go now this is just effectively operating as a capacitor it's an electrometer the two plates were charged periodically to the potential V due to the conductivity of the air the plates slowly discharged the rate of discharge was measured with the reter this was a most mysterious result the most dramatic finding in the entire
36:30 - 37:00 history of atmospheric electricity so what did they do they started making up ideas they started to reine the idea of an ionosphere and they started to explain that it must be because of cosmic ray because what should happen there should be a radial distribution that decreases away from the surface of the Earth that is a major problem for the sphere so if we come back over here we have a linear voltage gradient that increases away from the earth which is entirely impossible
37:00 - 37:30 around a sphere a sphere will have a radial distribution of charge away from the surface so just a reminder you have the sphere you have concentric circles out from there as opposed to what two parallel plates like we see here now if there's a plane you would have a surface above you you would have this it would give you finite volume it give you a vertical electric field that would be perpendicular to those plates perpendicular to Vertical is horizontal you would have two horizontal parallel plates and then or surfaces gajian surfaces and then you would have a vertical electric gradient or voltage gradient in between those two and this
37:30 - 38:00 would actually give you um a downward bias right so major problem is the rear yal distribution so the question is why does the electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth when we know that if you were to take a conductive sphere put it in electric field the charge will be strongest near the B near the uh surface I said balloon cuz to make sure you
38:00 - 38:30 understand it imagine taking a balloon rubbing it on your head where's the charge going to be the strongest at the surface and it's going to drop off the further you get away from the surface of that balloon right the balloon will operate as this spherical Earth okay it's going to drop off and it's actually going to exponentially or dramatically drastically drop off as you get further and further away from the surface because you have a radial distribution okay but that's not what we see on the earth we see an increase 100 volts per not just an increase equip potential increase 100 volts per meter
38:30 - 39:00 so the consistency the L linearity and the uniformity are major problems for the spherical assumption so why does the electrical voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth that is the first question second question is why is the electric voltage gradient on the earth linear major major problem because it's supposed to be radial if there is a sphere again if you have have a sphere you'll have concentric circles coming out from there you could call
39:00 - 39:30 those equip potential surfaces the problem is that you wouldn't have an equal potential increase right for one it would decrease away from the surface of the sphere and it would be radial not linear those are antonyms okay what do we see on the earth we see a linear voltage gradient this is a major problem for a spherical assumption and so again we're going to open it up but I want the subject to to be what is discussed right we have two questions on the table um
39:30 - 40:00 the questions show a direct reputation of the claim that the Earth is a globe and I I'll make sure that everyone understands it it's pretty simple right but why does the electric voltage gradient that we observe on the earth it increases away from the surface when we know it should be decreasing within a spherical Globe model away from the surface should be strong to the surface and decrease away from there it's not what we see at all and secondly right why is the electric voltage gradient on the Earth linear which I would consider one of the the most lethal reputations
40:00 - 40:30 of the globe model so there you go that is the presentation let me uh come over here all right sorry I forgot to switch it back to the PowerPoint for Discord all right we're going to open it up to anyone that wants to um ask the questions again if you want to support the stream link is right there kofi.com with it it'll pop up I saw there was a donation we'll check them
40:30 - 41:00 periodically um and then if you want to jump on and have a discussion uh click the link in the description it's Earth Awakenings Discord it'll take you straight to the stage um that we're in if you actually click the link in the description and then we'll bring you in if you want to jump up just raise your hand we'll bring you on the stage and of course the rules are pretty simple no interrupting try to keep your points somewhat concise respect the room respect others um and just have a good Faith interaction um we don't need any gaslighting we don't need
41:00 - 41:30 any stereotyping we don't need any um interruptions we don't need people using any sophistry which is the use of fallacious arguments with the intention to deceive we're all on the same team we're all people they're just trying to figure out what the truth is we were all told a specific thing about what the Earth is and the discussion should be respectful and hopefully edifying so that really the only rules is keep it pertinent to the subject don't interrupt try to keep it somewhat concise and then we should be able to actually have a good discussion so okay I think we're
41:30 - 42:00 good if anyone that's already on the stage has anything they want to say uh let me know I see a few people I think three of these people may be quote unquote glob earthers um raise our awareness what's going on what's up hey what's up man how's it going good what's going on bro hey so I
42:00 - 42:30 don't necessarily have a particular answers to those questions that you put forth okay I mean what do you think about it well uh I wouldn't be able to tell you why there was an equip potential increase in voltage uh but I do I was looking at this one Reddit post from about uh I think it was a few months ago yeah like three months ago and there was this one individual named
42:30 - 43:00 um something weekly actually Electro weekly and uh basically watch I can't really find it right now I was wondering if there's any chance you could pull it up and share the link and read through what he wrote and then potentially respond to it if not no big deal what's it called uh I would look up schooling with it Reddit and then gaui and
43:00 - 43:30 services okay all right first of all I'll look it up in a second but um this this one is actually not even about the surfaces right it's about the fact that the so they'll have to try to come up with another explanation or whatever I'll read it in a sec but it's that the field that we have on the earth is linear so there's a uniform vertical electric field the voltage gradient is linear on a sphere it would be
43:30 - 44:00 radial right so I'll look it up I highly doubt that they address that whatsoever it's probably something to the effect of equipotential surfaces or gaziano the two gazan surfaces would be the Earth and then what's the other one is is it some the what is the well well I don't know I don't think it's spere I think there's some type of containment above us that creates finite volume the
44:00 - 44:30 reason the osphere doesn't really work is because they claim the osphere constantly changes which altitude it's at which mean that the electric field would constantly change how many volts it would increase per meter because it would change the amount of volume that's not what we see we see a very consistent uniform linear voltage gradient that has 100 volts per meter so the globe may try to claim that but so what what about the Dome do first off I am kind of a newbie
44:30 - 45:00 listener my brother is a lot long-term of a follower but do you believe there is a dome and if so would that not have additional issues um being a is that not part of the is that not a go gazan service the curv Dome yeah so there's a few answers to that one is that the Dome can of course just be kind of low to the surface so at the edges it's going to come up and then it would come across effectively
45:00 - 45:30 parallel to the ground and then come back down it doesn't have to be this giant arcing Dome that people draw with cartoons right it could just it could come up off the surface at the edge and then come across pretty low and parallel to the ground and pop back down and there could be something else acting as a solid that just there are parallel layers within a dome right there are parallel later layers um you can basically have like plasma turning into something akin to a super solid or something and what would happen is if
45:30 - 46:00 whatever the Dome is containing you would have parallel layers within that those would be parallel horizontal layers so both of those would work and again like I said in the presentation where it would be different in that scenario is when you get out close to wherever the edge quote unquote is or wherever a container would come back down the electric fill would change of course inconveniently you can't actually go out that far and test it so it's a it's interesting I I actually want to go
46:00 - 46:30 do that but uh yeah and that's why I brought up the way that we do it mathematically we assume infinite surfaces that way the math works but in reality as you get closer to the surface or to the edge it begins to drop off right the the voltage gradient changes um but the more more of the point is that what we see is that the vertical electric field is linear the voltage gradient is linear on the earth and if we were on a sphere it would be radial which is a major it's a major glow problem also that is
46:30 - 47:00 be radial only over distances would it be radial only over long distances no it it would be radial as soon as you got away from the surface of the Earth you could try to say if you were really really close that it would look kind of similar but of course we know that you keep going higher and higher and higher and it remains linear right it would be radial as soon as you go away right because like if I'm standing on the earth and you're standing on the earth even just 100 feet away from me you're technically at a different angle than I am cuz we're both going down relative to the center of mass so if I'm standing
47:00 - 47:30 here and then you're like 100 miles away it's going to be even more different right and then as soon as we go up just one mile now we have a whole mile of that charge Distributing radly but what we actually see in reality is if I'm on a mountain that is 30,000 ft and you're at a mountain that's 30,000 ft and we're hundreds of miles away we're going to have the exact same voltage gradient and it's going to be linear all the way to the ground so that's what we see in reality is a linear electric field all the way up and it would be a radial distribution immediately from the
47:30 - 48:00 surface I can go ahead and try to tell you like the still man of the globe the best thing can try to say is well it's it's it's flat for intents and purposes on the small scale in small sections and when you're close to the surface it would look like it's uniform but that doesn't that doesn't work because it doesn't just look uniform near the surface it remains uniform and vertical and linear all the way up with immense distances between us and it's not just like oh I'm just going to look at like a mile it's it's like no we we look at
48:00 - 48:30 hundreds or thousands of miles and it Remains the Same right so yeah so those would be rebuttal by uh globers if they hadn't done their actual homework it yeah it would be the best the best GLT I me honestly I can say I can't think of a still man rebuttal to the linearity of the voltage gradient I've never heard one I talked to a certain physicist for an hour and he did not have one he ended up conceding so I don't know that's interesting yeah I will look this up schooling wit
48:30 - 49:00 it is that what you said yeah schooling wits it um and goian surface on Reddit yeah let's see if I was right about what he says yeah I'm assuming he's gonna say weekly the comments by Electro weekly and it's like a few downs from three months ago starts out with wit its's latest argument yeah let me share it to the
49:00 - 49:30 stream we'll read it live we'll do it live hell yeah uh I got money that it's like cian service are just mathematical constructs I think it does say that actually I know because that's the best anyone's come up with well let's just read it let's just read it life um and I'll point out what's obviously wrong with that all right here we go I don't see it on the scen yeah let
49:30 - 50:00 me change it for the Discord let me all right you guys should see it now all right in last week's episode of schooling globers FL so stupid we may have entire Reddit posts about it wit it presents possibly his dumbest argument yet interesting uh he has been presenting questions he thinks that no glober can answer his most recent question is can you have equ potential lines in a vertical electric field without two cian
50:00 - 50:30 Services uh yeah and actually like a uniform vertical electric field the question itself shows that he doesn't understand the very nature of ging surfaces are equipotential lines and the more he talks the more he shows his lack of knowledge more details in the comments this episode was memeable that I couldn't just choose one was so memeable all right we'll come down this is him I think uh let's see what's yeah yeah equal uh electric potential above the surface of the Earth and that you need to have two guing surfaces store the electric charge didn't say that this creates a
50:30 - 51:00 finite volume to equalize the charge within that volume that's more accurate relative to the negative Andor positive charge of the plates I may have said that and therefore generates the equipotential lines he also claims that scientists invented the concept of the osphere so that they could pretend this acts as one of the two gu surfaces with the surface of the Earth being the other sort of what I said it's all very tactical strawman they came up with that because of R Radio Transmissions but now it's true that there's a measurable vol voltage above the surface of the Earth you can draw a line joining different locations with the E with the potential
51:00 - 51:30 or the potential equal these are the equal lines at which to discusses there is nothing special about these lines they do not need a container these are no more physical than lines of equal pressure that you might see on a weather forecast the cian surface is essentially just a mathematical concept for calculating the flux of an electromagnetic field or any field it is an imaginary surface even the source that which it uses to introduce the concept describes gazan surface as imaginary and of course we will go right back here to Fan lectures and will show that this is a real life depiction of metal plates we'll also look here where
51:30 - 52:00 I'm literally doing it with real metal plates and we'll also look right here where Zach is doing it with real metal plates okay so these are not just math oh real metal plates so when you want to actually replicate a vertical electric field that's linear with a with equipotential surfaces right an equipotential distribution of charge then you use two actual real life physical surfaces metal plates now no one that knows anything about this would tell you that these are not gazan surfaces that's what they are you can
52:00 - 52:30 use a mathematical construct of that right you can use a ging surface as a mathematical construct I've said that specifically in the Stream which of course he tactically does not point out he acts like I didn't know that but okay anyway even the source that what it uses okay yeah wrong wi it glosses over the fact that Tex is presenting a particular choice of gajian surface that leverages symmetry to simplify the calculations not not the point actually the point is and that's not true either so we'll go
52:30 - 53:00 back to Fan he doesn't say that we're using this to simplify the equations he points out that the actual measurements of the field on the earth is such that to replicate it you would use two parallel metal plates he then points out that it was an absolute shock and surprise when people found it out so wrong again let me see if I can zoom in a little bit here it's not working all right um he presents this as actual rule about how a gsan surface behaves you can actually choose any appropriate surface to use as a gazan surface so as long as
53:00 - 53:30 it's closed surface that encloses a 3D Volume however this means the surface of the Earth explicitly cannot be a gazan surface what what also the Dome firmament could not be a gazan surface either in fact this whole premise of requiring two goian Services entirely flaw for this reason incorrect again I just explained it as I did in that stream multiple times I do find that the the reoccurring theme of having to tactically misrepresent and remove the clarity and explanations to the alleged rebuttal is pretty telling ignoring this fundamental flaw in with its argument he
53:30 - 54:00 goes on to claim that the gazing surface must be perpendicular to the field again this is untrue he got this from The Source above that choose a g gazing surface and this way to simplify the equations you can choose a different gazan surface which is not perpendicular to the fileld the calculations will still work just fine they're just more complicated this is where he shows his ignorance ironically he continues to conflate math with reality so I'm talking about a measurable real electric field in reality what we see on on the earth and the way that you can physically demonstrate it in reality the fact that you can try to mathematically
54:00 - 54:30 describe an electric field with different types of theoretical surfaces that are not physical is not the point and I guarantee you he's not going to talk about in the last couple paragraphs about how I pointed out it's a uniform vertical electric field and the linearity of it is the problem next he tries to imply that scientists have invented the osphere to be their goian surface well they actually invented the osphere because marone's radio Transmissions went far beyond what the globe so they had to come up with an idea and Oliver heavy side is the one that came up with it of a reason that
54:30 - 55:00 the radio waves would reflect back down as they went towards space as the curved surface of a globe would go down and away from the line of sight horizontal transmission of a radio wave they did not go up there and Discover it they theorized it based on what would be needed for the globe they then used that same idea to try to invoke the second gajian surface um anyway he says that scientists would have to prove in a lab that a plasma like that in I could store a charge in the way he mistakingly thinks a guian surface does um never
55:00 - 55:30 said anything about storing a charge I said it creates a finite volume between the two plates and then the charge actually distributes relative to that finite volume this is just basic basic laws of electrostatics um and I did not even say what he's saying about what they need to prove in a lab other than they would need to show an actual uh equip potential equip potential distribution right and uniformity of the electric field within a cond with a conducting sphere inside of electric field build without a physical gazing surface around it and even if it did exist it would be
55:30 - 56:00 a concentric Circle that was much bigger than the sphere itself which would cause a radial distribution that is the actual argument that no one has rebutted yet putting it all together wi it complains that the osphere couldnot be parallel to Earth's surface or perpendicular to the field since it's curved a flat earther asks him if the Dome would have the same problem since it also would be curved wi response is that the Dome would be far enough above you that you could treat it as essentially flat why do you have to strawman everything I say I don't no it what's what is it it's like Hitchin razor do not attribute malice to that
56:00 - 56:30 which can be adequately explained with in cence I don't know if he doesn't understand my argument or if it's intentional but with this response is that the Dome would be far enough blah blah this is now one of my favorite arguments from a flat earther also suggests that there could be a flat layer of plasma below the curved Dome that would act as a gazan surface apparently real scientists would have to prove that the osphere could act like a gazan surface but it's perfectly fine for him to assume not only this the that some other layer of plasma could do this but that such a layer exists to begin in and is flat okay now of course what I'm actually saying is that there does
56:30 - 57:00 appear to be potentially vertical layers of plasma that could turn to some type of solidity and I actually specifically say super solid um and that that would be uh it would be parallel to a to a surface below it even if the overall containment was a dome and as as to what I actually said about the Dome I didn't say it would be so high up you could treat like it's flat I said no like it it could actually be lower right and it just comes up from the surfaces and just goes across the Earth parallel to the surface and then curves back down at the edges it would drop off at the edges and
57:00 - 57:30 that's where you would actually have to test it um where were we at oh yeah okay so and apparently real SCI have to prove the osphere and actually my point is that within the globe model the ionosphere that they claim it tactically left this out of course they claim that it constantly changes the reason they do that is because radio waves change how far they go and they changes what frequencies go a certain distance if you're claiming they're bouncing off of an ion spere well they actually fluctuate the height at which that ionosphere supposedly is they'll say
57:30 - 58:00 it's at 30 mil okay it was at 50 Mi this time to explain the radio wave propagations you have to do that within the glowe Paradigm so like I said earlier if you were to believe that that that's going to actually change the amount of volume between the osphere and the surface right if it's at 30 miles you have a certain amount of volume if you then pop it up to 45 miles now there's a different amount of volume and in fact they say that this moves up and down all over the atmosphere meaning it doesn't all move up uniformly to change the volume together so you would have gross differences in the vert in the electric field all over the Earth and
58:00 - 58:30 they would change constantly you would not have consistent uniformity of a vertical electric field that is the actual argument against the globe Earth ionis here apparently real scientists okay we read that ironically what it believes that all this is a great argument against the globe when in fact it is probably one of the weakest arguments he has put forward okay so and this is the part that I did correct all that misinformation but what's even funnier than that is is he's not addressing the linearity of the voltage gradient which is the problem right you
58:30 - 59:00 would have concentric circles if you had equipotential surfaces on and if I'm going too fast at me in the chat or whatever let me know but if you had a conductive s surface or sphere right put that inside of a an electric field then you're going to have the strongest charge at the surface it's going to get weaker as you get further away and it's going to begin to exponentially fall off because the amount of volume that charge is spreading throughout or Distributing throughout is increasing right you would have concentric circles coming out from the sphere and it would be a radial
59:00 - 59:30 distribution you could not have a uniform vertical electric field with a linear voltage gradient unless you had two parallel plates with a finite volume right it's the linearity and the uniformity that specifically and explicitly refutes the claim of sphericity and so hopefully this guy would write a follow up and actually address the questions that I have put on today and let me I know I'm talking a lot and then I'll back up but let me go back to the two
59:30 - 60:00 questions bang why does the electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth when it should decrease and why is the electric voltage gradient on the earth linear so those are the two questions so I I kind of knew where that was going by the way because I heard the legend of bules and it was just that the gazin surf is just a mathematical concept so I'm like no but if we're going to talk about real life like reality physical
60:00 - 60:30 reality right well over here in plain Earth land I can take an actual physical metal plate one that's parallel to that create an actual voltage gradient and I can flip the polarity of the field and make things float even when they're more dense or heavier than the air right so we can replicate what we see on the earth with two actual physical plates whether or not you can do something mathematically doesn't mean anything we're talking about what's actually going on in physical reality and there has to be a physical C of our electric field we see in physical reality right the ability to do something
60:30 - 61:00 mathematically doesn't change that and I actually pointed out to the ter phys as well I'm like can you actually demonstrate for me physically at any scale um a vertical electric field that has uniform distribution and linearity within a lab using a sphere and he ended up conceding that you cannot do that that it will always be radial distribution um then got kind of triggered and left and so this is a guy that that Tau it or whatever um so I'm still kind of waiting on the answer to be honest and and Richard fireman start up tells you that the the uh the
61:00 - 61:30 discovery was incredibly unexpected so then people began to theorize about cosmic rays Etc even though that still doesn't answer it so I know that was a lot but hopefully I address that if there's another part of it that you think I didn't address let me know I think I literally read every part of it though so that's rough I want to ask you I still don't the the visual in my head radial versus
61:30 - 62:00 linear yeah okay well uh let me can you see that you can see the PowerPoint right you kind of I think he dropped I think he I think he dropped but probably by mistake and maybe he'll come back but I'll show I'll show it anyway like uh like I showed earlier this would be radio distribution right so pop that up
62:00 - 62:30 so you have the Earth here being this interior Circle and you're going to have concentric circles coming out from that so as the charge you see the charge going up to the quote unquote ionosphere here right as it comes up it's going to spread out cu because the area it has to spread out gets wider and wider the further away from the surface it gets now if you have sorry let me make sure that they can see it if you have two plates like this right well there's a finite volume there's the same amount of volume over
62:30 - 63:00 here as there is over here doesn't matter where you go right there's the same distance between the bottom plate and the top plate but on a sphere it's different right it gets wider as you go up so what's going to happen well you have a certain amount of charge now you have more space more volume right so it's going the amount of charge is going to drop off exponentially away from the sphere because you have more space to spread out in all directions so it will be radial as opposed opposed to linear which would be like this right here this would be
63:00 - 63:30 linear this would be radial and of course on a sphere it has to be radial and so we live on a sphere of electric field would have to be radial and I've heard people try to claim well if you just take a small segment of the earth and you're real close to the surface then it would look pretty much the same that isn't even entirely true but if you're really close to the surface it could give you the illusion right that it was equipotential but uh not 50 mil up right not even a few miles up and certain not many miles apart from each other so hey can you hear me yeah yep hey so
63:30 - 64:00 my question is kind of having to do with the surveyors and how they use that equipment I forget what it's called um with the plum lines and they you know make those radial lines going out from the center of the earth right they look out uh and look at things in the distance and they see oh because the plum lines are have a very slight different angle out of each other more spreading out from the center of the earth they would make the same argument
64:00 - 64:30 about the charge which is that on such small distances the effect of something being radial would be almost identical to something being linear like if you wipe out a CD clean a CD off right you're like wiping it radially so you don't scratch it out from the center but if the CD was like you know the size of like you know a whole town or whatever you'd be it would just look like you're wiping straight lines up from the surface but yeah I just wonder if if
64:30 - 65:00 that's if it's just such a scal problem where the scale is just so big that you wouldn't notice the difference between radial and linear and then later on if you just want to address it later in the Stream I I was watching something you did last week about the angular size of the sun not changing proper solar filters I just want later if you could address that sure sure well really quick I point out that if you have like a limit to how far you can see and the Sun is outside of that you're only going to
65:00 - 65:30 see the Sun from the same distance in all directions the angular size is not expect to change certainly not much um we can talk about that kind of what I thought yeah but like you can replicate this I have a little Dome over here you take a light over top of it it's going to stay the same size and it's going to Arc over top you even though it's staying the same height above you but um so yeah that the equal distant away from you will make the angular sides remain the same um so when it comes to the idea like the plum Bobs right this is a good analogy actually to use it so on earth
65:30 - 66:00 flat earth right you drop a plum Bob and that's a vertical Plum line straight down to the Earth and we assume the Earth is perpendicular to the plum Bob right um so we assume the Earth is a plane the globe model says well yeah we do that because for intens and purposes it's close enough you can treat it like it's a plane on the small scale then if we say we go 10 miles out we drop another Plum Bob right like on a flat Earth those are parallel to each other on a globe they're slightly diverging out from each other right cuz because it's on a sphere and yeah like you so they'll actually claim that they measure reciprocal Zenith angles and then
66:00 - 66:30 they'll point out that it's incredibly small the measurements are supposedly making and that lateral refraction is can affect it way more than that and it doesn't actually match and then they fluctuate it around and blah blah blah it's just it's just it's it's ridiculous but now imagine if you take those plum Bobs that are slightly diverging out right which I think your point is that well it just be very slight so you wouldn't really know the difference okay well keep going up from there so go a mile up how much are they diverted out okay go 3 miles up go 10 miles up now
66:30 - 67:00 they're diverging out quite a bit the space between them is increasing a lot which means the charge has a lot more space to distribute so you would see a difference in the field but what we know is you can actually put a hot air balloon up 30 miles and it's the same you can go to the top of a mountain and it's the same it should be different though so yes at the surface like I said you can say it would be kind of the same right but as it gets further away from the surface it would change I didn't know that they had um done measurements
67:00 - 67:30 about that that was sort of my question was you know hot air balloons altitude changes uh stuff like that you know obviously the Divergence of charge spreading out like it would naturally do would um would have a lot to do with that um so that's a good um is there any is there any uh thing I could take a look at about uh measurements of different altitudes of charge like that or yeah I'll find it I'll find it but they use what's called an electrometer and they put them on hot air balloons
67:30 - 68:00 they also use voltmeters at different elevations but I'll find something about the electrometer on the balloons but that's kind of what um let me see that's what Fan's talking about here let me hide the power point so he's talking about here he says um to test this Theory some physicists carried an experiment up in balloons to measure the ionization of the air and discovered that the opposite was true the ionization per unit volume increased with altitude so again if you look here the prediction of the globe is that it should decrease away from the
68:00 - 68:30 surface but what they found the opposite they found that it actually increased right and so it says here that um the two plates Char were charged periodically to the potential V due to the conduct conductivity of the air the plates slowly discharged rate of discharge was measured with the electrometer right and here's a depiction of it very similar to the setup of a capacitor right you have two parallel plates um so yeah they put electrometer on a hot air balloon and they watch the the ionization per unit volume increased with altitude which was not expected um and they started coming
68:30 - 69:00 up with different theories to try to explain why it actually increased away from the surface uh so yeah I'll show you it's so the 100 volts per meter is like a consistent relationship really high in the sky and you know some people may claim it changes when you get to space well it's like what are you talking about right you're talking about your vacuum where there's basically nothing there and we can't verify it ourselves so like you know the reality that we see is you can test whether or not it's a sphere even at like 20 miles you just
69:00 - 69:30 put a hot air I think one of the uh things that might people might struggle with is is people don't know a lot about electricity and you know just even in general household stuff so if you think of like water pressure if you shot water out you know or you had like a flat system and there was water pressure up and down well if you had it spreading out the water pressure would would go way down the higher you go up because the water has more space to have to occupy and that's what you're saying what it would be in a spherical or a
69:30 - 70:00 circular system is that as everything goes up and not only just going up it's having to account for all this more space it's entering per correct square foot or per per linear foot whatever so the fact that it's not measured as that is um yes is is is the the Crux of the whole thing yeah exactly yeah it has more left to right space to spread out so it wouldn't it wouldn't remain linear yeah exactly uh let me check the
70:00 - 70:30 donations thank you and then I don't know if you ever checked out the uh there's a similar to similar to michol morle there was a 1980 86 889 experiment called the silvertooth experiment having to do with interferometry and uh that's another very interesting um case study of interferometry and the search for the for the ether I've never heard of it the silver tooth yes they called the silver tooth experiment I think it was I want to say 1986 but might be 1989 I I don't
70:30 - 71:00 remember nice I'll check it out man maybe Allan's heard of it I've never heard of it all right let me check these out here can't wait for Miss switch to launch so we can have all this info in our pocket um technically it is launched we haven't uh so you can build a lot of it up but you have to choose to make it public a lot of it hasn't been made public yet but it is technically there that's members. swi.com I'm trying to get everyone pulled over um it's been trickier than I thought but yeah we will
71:00 - 71:30 have like an entire source of information there for sure thank you for $10 Luke and everyone just make sure you check your emails that you signed up with all right Jason blocker what do you reckon the smallest particle of matter is although everything is ultimately energy things there are things that manifest in physical forms do you believe in molecules atoms I'm curious because I have no idea did myself and I trust your opinion uh that's a good question man I mean I think
71:30 - 72:00 that the concept of molecules is interesting right like it it does seem to be a pretty reliable conceptualization of what we call matter when you get down to atoms I don't buy it at all right like the atom is claimed to be 99.9999999% empty space and of course you have the boore model and that was changed it's been changed like five times from like basically a mini Solar System model and
72:00 - 72:30 all of it keeps being disproven so the idea that there's like a physical atom of material that's 99.99999% empty space like literally 5 9es um is wild to me and I don't believe it and it takes a geometry of a Taurus field and so you're getting into an energetic manifestation when you get down to what people call atoms and of course you'll see that they uh they have a Vortex with a Taurus field so um yeah that would be my answer thank you for
72:30 - 73:00 the Super Chat Jason blocker and then Jesus is King love all the work you do brother may the Creator give you the desire of your heart and make all your plans succeed thank you so much man thank you for the $25 tip in the kind words greatly appreciated it Jesus is King thank you man yeah I TR I trust the Creator man he's got my back um actually let me take this time real quick and then everyone else that wants to pop up you can raise your hand or if you if anyone else wants to try to actually answer the questions here and again the questions
73:00 - 73:30 are why does the uh electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth and why is the voltage gradient of the earth linear um but I do want to let me come onto the screen real fast I'll do it for Discord as well all right um I want to give you guys a bit of an update so I did go to NASA twice so I went there there and then I decided to get a hotel so I paid
73:30 - 74:00 for a hotel and I stayed overnight because I was able to talk to a different astronaut the next day I wanted to go to the lunch with him but it wasn't available but I do plan on doing that in the future long story short I did have an interaction with two different astronauts um so I got my glasses I got the tickets I got my annual pass drove there about 3 hours got a hotel um and I did stream it for the miss swits even though we had a bit of an issue on the first day and then I do have it documented but not publicly releasing it
74:00 - 74:30 yet it was very interesting to say the least I will all right I'm going to do this I'm going to um show one thing real fast just so because I don't want people to I don't want to leave them hanging with that so I'm going to play this real quick and hopefully everyone will be patient with me but I want to give you guys a bit of a heads up for one one of the things so many of the things I'm not going to reveal yet for obvious reasons if you're a Mis with and you're vetted and you're trusted and you're known um then we could go from there but I do
74:30 - 75:00 have it documented but I'm trying to compile it uh let's just say the astronauts are messing up on their stories a lot which seems weird right cuz I thought they've been to space that seems weird to me like if you ask me what happened in my high school playoff game I know what happened CU I did it right so I don't know man um so stay tuned for that should be very interesting I want to to play this to give you one example of where they messed up and then we're going to open it back
75:00 - 75:30 up we'll okay so keep in mind pay attention to what they say here and then I'll tell you what the astronaut said to me and it's just wild so let me change it for Discord bang all right let's watch it will Mark Cameron this is from Mark Cameron wilst in space have you ever looked away
75:30 - 76:00 from Earth into the black void yeah so yeah you can see yeah CU you can see the stars oh yeah you know I know I pointed this out on NASA FR but like why is Don petett stare at him intently waiting for his answer like he doesn't know the answer and he's waiting to know what he says I thought you both been to space like that like hundreds of times or something like hundreds of hours watch this guy like turn and look like what's the answer and then as soon as he aners he's like yeah yeah it's like they're doing improv or something
76:00 - 76:30 but all right I won't interrupt again but just pay attention to Don ped's body language how how incredibly sus this is Wil wil Mark Cameron this is from Mark Cameron wilst in space have you ever looked away from Earth into the black void yeah so yeah CU you can see yeah CU you can see the stars oh yeah you know and uh pretty much all the time you can see the stars it's it's not a black void I mean it's black but there's all kinds
76:30 - 77:00 of little polka do there's all the there's all the stars there and the cool thing is about you can see it during the day yeah you can and there's more than Stars you can see planets you can see Moon so he said you can see it pretty much all the time and the cool thing about it is you can see it during the day okay moons you you see the G the gas U mellin clouds of melenic cloud melenic see I was I just want large one and a small one right and and then you can see uh the zodiacal lights those those are amazing right
77:00 - 77:30 before of the zodiac the lights of the zodiac zal lights but one thing to add to this I think which is kind of interesting about being able to look into the black void is that we can't do that when the sun is out here on Earth and it's not because the sun is so bright it's because this atmosphere right the light comes through the atmosphere and refracts and we see blue it scatter we see blue so what we see is when you looked up at the sky Could you actually see the star okay first of all what does he mean by when he's here on Earth I guess they're they're this is a
77:30 - 78:00 green screen behind them they're on the Earth but anyway um I won't go any further than that but let's just say I talked to an astronaut of course face to face and I asked her that very question I asked her can you see stars during the day on the side of the earth that is the sun where the sun is and if you don't know they supposedly go around the Earth every 90 minutes so you would have 45 minutes every 45 minutes of seeing the Stars where the sun is and I'm like can you see the stars during the day on the side of the Sun and she
78:00 - 78:30 said no you cannot see them and then she gave me the same script that the other astronaut did randomly wanted to tell me the talking point of well they look a lot like they do on the earth uh they look exactly the same because we're not much closer the only difference is that they don't twinkle because there is no atmosphere little she know of course that's that's a problem because the reason you would be able to see stars in space even during the day is because there is no atmosphere they always want
78:30 - 79:00 to tell you that talking point though both of them forced that in there and I'm like okay but just to clarify like you can't see the stars during the day on the side of the sun she said nope and you hear these people who claim to have been on the same space station in the same area of space in the same space claiming that you absolutely do see them all the time even during the day and the reason that you do see the stars during the day is because there is no atmosphere so pretty interesting I would say there's one piece just one example and of course
79:00 - 79:30 something else that to say that they look exactly the same as they do on the earth then you have another astronaut say uh you if you ever seen I'm from Colorado if you ever seen the stars in Colorado when you get away from light uh pollution you see tons of stars imagine that times a thousand when you're in space so they say specifically you see way more stars and it doesn't look the same as it does on Earth so we're getting contradictory statements from people who claim to go to space with our tax money seems pretty weird to me but anyway we have much um bigger home runs that came from the trip so I want to give you guys a head up heads up okay
79:30 - 80:00 and then one more thing I will also announce actually while I'm at it um I am going to be I think I'm officially going to be on Sam triple's podcast the tinfoil hat podcast a lot of people have asked me to get on there and ask when I'm going to do it blah blah blah I do think that I will be on there soon next month I believe it should be finalized soon I just have to of course get the money to fly out there both ways get a hotel and a rental car blah blah
80:00 - 80:30 blah but there you go there's the announcement I should be on Sam Trip's podcast next month should be very exciting so I think that is official okay so we'll go back to the room if anyone has anything else they want to talk about in whether you're globber or Flat Earth if anyone has any input on well I'm sharing Discord with you guys any input on the questions that we have here because as far as I can tell you know according to my simple mind this refutes the globe what's up
80:30 - 81:00 brother you were trying to talk you're you're breaking up yeah maybe try to reconnect and and mess with your mic or something you're breaking up uh Angel angelin were you trying to say something
81:00 - 81:30 okay very anticlimactic here okay I'm gonna mute you all right anyway um either either Globe Earth or Flat Earth or whatever just a reminder of the questions here why does the electric voltage gradient increase away from the surface of the Earth and why is the electric voltage gradient on the earth linear these are both major problems for the sphere it's actually a direct physical reputation of the sphere you would not have a linear voltage gradient and of course let's also I guess until someone jumps in jump in anytime someone wants to say something
81:30 - 82:00 if you want to jump on the stage raise your hand if you want to jump in from the YouTube or rumble or Rock fin uh click the link in the description and then we'll bring you up all you have to do is raise your hand you get brought up someone trying to say something okay real quick I want to answer a couple of the thing gf6 you trying to say something yeah yeah uh got a couple questions about the linearity point and the uniformity so it varies a lot right so the the voltage gradient can vary anywhere between 90 and a couple hundred volts per meter depending on
82:00 - 82:30 weather location and terrain um how far up is it linear well it doesn't change based on terrain where did you get that gradient yeah only directly by the surface sure it's just like standing on the surface so like a mountain or something the electric field will go around that as soon start to increase away from the surface it's going to be 100 volts per meter when it when it the uniformity is
82:30 - 83:00 not about the fact that it doesn't change right so like yeah like uh weather can make the field change right but the actual yeah but the actual original field itself has a uniform distribution it's 100 volts per meteor and it's linear so yeah it fluctuates within weather good the linearity right where is the uh in your stuff you haven't really shown us like a a graph of the the the voltage with altitude or
83:00 - 83:30 anything like that and how far the linearity extends for so Fineman was talking about the the amount of ionization increasing as we go up um but he didn't really talk too much about the actual voltage gradient he did as we go up did he did 100 volts per meter so like the official Narrative of the globe is that it's like that up to like 50 miles yep so expect to see much linearity change because of a sphere then that's only 100 miles in 3,000 so
83:30 - 84:00 it's only going to be a fraction of a percent and within the variability of the gradient we wouldn't expect to see we wouldn't be able to detect any difference between a parallel plates or a um spherical charge surface that's not correct it's not about percentage it's about actual volume itself like the percentage of the radius doesn't matter it's the amount of charge and then the amount of space the charge has you increase an a significant amount of charge left or right with a radial Distribution on a sphere so the
84:00 - 84:30 percentage of the radius is not relevant it is because the the so it's basically you're talking about the surface area of the sphere right so your gussian surface that you're looking at that so if you if you were to cover a g the the surface of the Earth with a galoian surface that was also a sphere but ease of analysis and you did one at each meter that as those spheres go out they get bigger in surface area or portion to radius square so that's the
84:30 - 85:00 rate you would expect the potential to drop off and over from from the surface potential to the potential at 100 km we're dealing with 100 in 3,000 change in the radius so there's only going to be 100 in 3,000 change in the electrical potential because of that so it's very small and that's you wouldn't be able to detect that from other normal variability in the the the the electric field that's present anyway that is not correct right so for
85:00 - 85:30 one uh we do not see a distribution of charge relative to a radius which is specifically what column's law on a spear would dictate we do not see that you're say you're basicly saying that you're not going to be able to tell the difference but you absolutely are we can actually measure the causes of the change in the electric field right like thunderstorm activity lightning storm activity Etc secondly it's not it's it sounds good to say oh but like 50 miles is just a small percentage of the radius but that doesn't matter the fact is that it would change because as you get
85:30 - 86:00 further away from the surface there's more area so it actually just be a relationship between the increase in volume and the amount of charge it isn't like oh it wouldn't be much because it's a small portion of the R value the R value just gives you the initial amount of charge that you would have right and then it's going to distribute radially after that and it doesn't do that admittedly it doesn't do that I don't even know I've never heard of actual explanation what's up yeah yeah I think if you actually did it
86:00 - 86:30 mathematically it it would show I should do it um but the the difference in in um you know the rate of change of potential of of a if the Earth was a perfect sphere with a perfectly distributed charge in a vacuum with no atmosphere so you had it you know there there was no conductivity in the atmosphere changing the charge distribution the electric field the difference in the electric field strength between the Earth and 50 km is is going to be
86:30 - 87:00 small notion to to the radius wait do you do you agree it's going to begin to drop off exponentially not exponentially it'll drop off with a square with with the surface area so with r squ basically it's an R squ relationship uh are you sure I think so it's cubed is it not uh yeah if you're going for a sphere it'll be well that's what you're that's
87:00 - 87:30 what yeah that's what you guys claim we live on so it's yeah I was just thinking about the the cross-sectional shape Circle well that's okay yeah so so it's like it's it's convenient from a globular list position right to say well we'll treat it like it's flat in small sections but that has implications over the course of the entire Earth you're going to have an exponential drop off the further away you get from the surface it's going to drop off at exponential well it's a significant
87:30 - 88:00 rate significant rate and it increases proportionate to distance away from the surface so it it there's a radial distribution you have concentric circles and it would not in any way remain linear nor uniform the fluctuations from uniformity because of external variables doesn't reut the uniformity and then you just baselessly claim that you wouldn't be able ble to tell the difference if it was linear or not that is not true we've Ed electrometers on hot air balloons we know that there is a linear distribution
88:00 - 88:30 all the way up as far as we can access and then believe it or not I'm not going to believe that like you know NASA is going to tell me what happens above that so you would be able to tell but it's there's only going to be a 5% drop at 100 kilm in terms of the um electric field strength I don't believe that that's I don't believe that that's correct right and
88:30 - 89:00 regardless of the percentage you would see there's no uniformity or linearity but it is linear so there's no uniformity or linearity in the atmosphere it's highly variable it absolutely is linear the amount of it's not approximately linear but it's not precisely in it's not like your experiment where you had a very precise and uniform vol things like so anytime you have a um a conductor in an electric field um you
89:00 - 89:30 will get a change in the shape of the electric field so the Earth electric field is full of moisture it's full of charged particles currents are flowing and um which is something that is not happening between in a capacitor there's no current flowing between the plates you've just got charge stored so you've got all of these things electrical things moving around in the earth electric field the field is not uniform I just addressed that concise uniform on
89:30 - 90:00 average I just address that right and we can actually isolate the input that varies it from uniformity you can measure it right so like the field itself if you didn't introduce external variables it's a uniform linear distribution and then say we have like a lightning storm popup well the field in that local region will change and then what happens whenever the the lightning storm resides it goes back to its uniform field it's measurable we've done
90:00 - 90:30 this many times all over the world at different altitudes and different distances away from each other and it remains linear it matches exactly what you would see with uh external variability within a finite volume of two parallel plates well I'm happy to be corrected on that but if you could provide some specific references going the um the uniform ity of the field with altitude over time that would be really good we know there thunderstorms and electrical
90:30 - 91:00 activity but the evidence is that it's variable and highly variable and um yeah they can say on average it's 40,000 no 400,000 volts isn't it up to the ionosphere something like that it's very high voltage but the average is only in average and it's not particularly distant okay we can accurately predict the amount of voltage based on a linear
91:00 - 91:30 distribution that's uniform at altitude so I can say okay you're about to go up 20 miles this is what the voltage potential is going to be there and you can go up there and without like external variability meaning there's a storm or whatever right you're going to see that the voltage match is the prediction of a linear distribution not a radial distribution that's what we see in reality that's what we see and in fact it also increases from the surface so why does
91:30 - 92:00 the voltage do you do you agree that voltage potential decreases away from the surface of like a conducting sphere uh the potential does increase away from a sphere yes uh decrease sorry right if I have a balloon and and yeah I rub it on my head it's gonna be the strongest of surface so why does the why does the voltage gradient increase away from I haven't seen anything talking about the increasing
92:00 - 92:30 gradient I've seen information about increasing amounts of ionization but not increasing gradient the potential increases 100 volts per meter oh yeah the gradient is 100 volts per meter inre potential right yeah yeah yeah so the potential is increasing the gradient isn't what the gradient is a description of the change in potential gradient is change in Delta potential yes right
92:30 - 93:00 that's it but the actual potential right it is increasing at a relatively linear rate the the rate of change of potential isn't increasing did you see where it did you actually read Fan's paper where they talk about this specifically right they talk about how they they put an electrometer on a balloon and went up and it increased surprisingly and it shocked everyone what what is electrometer measuring the
93:00 - 93:30 potential no it's measuring the amount of ionization in the in the air it's measuring how many charged particles are in the air you realize it has a direct relationship with potential right no it doesn't what charge particles charge part so charge particles create potential but they are not the two aren't directly related like that so what they that the that instrument
93:30 - 94:00 applies a charge to plates and the CH rate of discharge of the plates depends on how many charge particles are flowing through allowing current to flow it measures how much ionization is in the atmosphere not measur where do you where do you get ionization from well that's the question right and he's talking about Cosmic radiation all that kind of stuff that causes ionization of particles in the atmosphere the ionization is not caused
94:00 - 94:30 by the electrical potential of the atmosphere unless it's extreme causing volage breakdown so you think that the potential increases from the surface and ionization increases from the surface and they're unrelated yeah I think so the ionization yeah the because the potential gradient right is not necessarily causing the
94:30 - 95:00 ionization 100 volts per meter is not enough to cause ionization of air you need thousands of volts per meter to make air ioniz like in lightning right it's you've got 20,000 volts per kilometer or something like that with ionization of air okay wait up let me read the exact values here we have uh let's see wait up we have
95:00 - 95:30 uh sorry I'll find it we have 700 megawatts in 400,000 volts coming down at any point yeah so 400,000 volts is the potential to the top of the ionosphere right 50 km yeah roughly I mean your your system fluctuates yeah yeah across the surface yeah with about 1,800 amps flowing and that's assuming assuming an R value of
95:30 - 96:00 course it's assuming the dimensions but nevertheless yeah yeah but you can also yeah good ah yeah so you could also do that for some finite chunk of the Earth right you could you could work out what the potential is what the conductivity is how much power is being delivered through that electric field okay so to still man your position the electric voltage gradient increases away
96:00 - 96:30 from the surface as does measurable ionization but they are unrelated the radial distribution would not be distinguishable from a linear distribution with parallel plates and because there are fluctuations based on external variables such as weather you can't actually Det determine if there is a uniformity to the field that's a still man
96:30 - 97:00 right yeah so there's no uniformity to the field it's highly variable the amount of ionization is not dependent on the gradient and the gradient I'm still to see evidence of the gradient being highly nonlinear being being highly um let me start again yeah still looking for strong evidence of the uniformity of
97:00 - 97:30 the gradient the evidence is the actual measur measurements of the voltage gradient bro it's 100 volts per meter there's slight fluctuations in the presence of weather right and there's an increase away from the surface and if we're on a sphere in a vacuum we're going to have a radial distribution that drops off away from the surface right and prior to any external variables we're going to have a consistent decrease away from the surface we do not observe this and in
97:30 - 98:00 fact we have less and less of a medium the higher we go up yet we have an increase in the voltage gradient we do not see a consistent drop off in proportion to an assumed radius value based on colum's law right yeah yeah yeah so I'm still still looking for that evidence of the voltage gradient not the ionization levels the voltage gradient increases with altitude yeah yeah that that's I I
98:00 - 98:30 haven't seen any evidence of that yet okay but if it does present it I'll I'll give you the evidence but you agree that if it does that is not a radial distribution away from a sphere which would predict that it would drop off and that it would be radial oh yeah you you predi a two or 3% drop over 100 km on a sphere that's a radius of 3,000 km so there would be some reduction but yeah to see that
98:30 - 99:00 linearity all the way to whatever altitude has been measured to that would be really good okay but just to clarify you agree that if there is a uniform linear distribution away from the surface where there's an increase in voltage potential that that would not match the predictions of a sphere inside of electric fill with radial
99:00 - 99:30 distribution uh it depends how far you're measuring up right so so I don't think there'd be any noticeable difference at at up to say 100 kilm in the linearity of a field you wouldn't be able to pick it from um something was generated from parallel plates versus a point charge or sphere why would you not be able to tell a difference when it would be gradually decreasing away from the surface yeah because the the gradual decrease is lost in the noise basically then we
99:30 - 100:00 can't average it so much well you can average it but then you don't know whether it's linear or not so that's I'm saying so we can though because we can predict it at different altitudes like this is what always happens with the globe Earth the model becomes unfalsifiable yes yes so the model always becomes unfalsifiable simply based on distance away from the surface with a known average of 100 volts per meter and it's accurate it's accurate we
100:00 - 100:30 can go to a specific mountain and we can know what the voltage gradient is going to be there and we can see fluctuations away from that and as things calm down it goes back to the predicted value or right at it right but like on a sphere the prediction is specifically different it's a radial Distribution on a mountain you're it's even going to be less right it's going to be a fraction of off linear that that you're not even going to be a to pick a linear any difference from a linear gradient on a
100:30 - 101:00 mountain it's not good evidence that you want to see it no but you can stick a voltmeter out off the mountain right the the better measurements are certainly balloons though to use a balloon because as soon as you come off the surface it's going to begin to level out the voltage gradient it's just like with what happens is right off the surface it all bunches up right it all bunches up then it goes right yeah but then it goes right back to where the surrounding area is yeah yeah
101:00 - 101:30 MH so we have a vertical electric field on the earth with a downward electric current we have equip potential surfaces that are parallel to each other right we have a vertical voltage gradient that increases away from the surface all of these are exactly what you would have and predict if you had two parallel plates that were horizontal it's exactly what you have right no parallel plates that were perp
101:30 - 102:00 were exactly parallel the voltage gradient would be perfectly uniform it wouldn't increase we no that's not true if we had the parallel plates first what do you mean bro first of all if we had two par two parallel plates the electric field is uniform that the electric field runs directly from plate to Plate the equal the potential line in those fields are perfectly uniformly spaced it does and it would increase away from the surface the potential would increase and
102:00 - 102:30 the potential increases but the rate is linear perfectly linear okay so now if we had two parallel plates and then we occasionally introduce like additional charge right like a like a thunderstorm like a lightning storm right then it would slightly change in that isolated area and then whenever that external introduction resided it would go back to its General uniformity and linearity so so basically with alud no
102:30 - 103:00 I'm not telling you that I'm telling you it is you said it increases with altitude didn't you as in like yeah the potential continually increases because there's an aqua potential potential increases or the rate of potential the potential B per meter or the actual total potential the total potential yeah total potential so that'll be the same in both cases it will not be the same in both cases it is linear or radial distinctly different like can you replicate what you're saying in a lab can you create a
103:00 - 103:30 conduct can you have a conductive surface put it within an electric field and show that there's going to be um uniformity because you're claiming there's no uniformity but there is it's widely accepted that there is uniformity that's why your model invokes the ionosphere right and then it invokes cosmic rays to explain it increasing from the surface and then admittedly we don't fully understand the electric field within the glob Paradigm but like what I'm asking is can you go to a lab can you take a sphere and can you replicate the electric field that we see
103:30 - 104:00 on the earth so you can take a sphere you you you can replicate an electrical field that will correspond to the theoretical field so you know as you've said it's a radial radial field with concentric lines of equ potential the if you were to measure that with a change in radius of 1% you would say that it would be linear you wouldn't be able to measure it you
104:00 - 104:30 wouldn't be able to detect that it wasn't a linear change Well yeah if you do it in a really yeah if you do it in a really small scale where you just have like basically no room at All Above This sphere but if you do it in real life yeah but you do it do it in real life where that that equates to yes where that equates to dozens of miles and thousands of miles left and right because you don't have horizontal then
104:30 - 105:00 you would absolutely see a difference you would have a huge change in the drop off of the charge it would distribute radially and why would it increase away from the surface your your model requires invoking cosmic rays you get what does yours increase away from the surface because there's a positive plate above us why would it not of course it the potential increases the in both cases the potential increases away from the
105:00 - 105:30 surface it's expected to be that way with a positive plate above you and of course of course I don't even dispute that there are there is energy coming from the sky but the point is like let's just read what fan says here right because obviously it was not expected right we agree with that it was an unexpected result they saw the charge the amount of ionization increasing in the atmosphere it was unexpected yeah
105:30 - 106:00 why uh they didn't know about the ionization in the upper atmosphere back then but why why was it unexpected because the prediction would be that it wouldn't do that that's why right so that's why I explained right here what's up you don't confuse ionization with the electrical potential two different things yeah but you're acting like they're completely unrelated they are not if you have more
106:00 - 106:30 potential you have you can have more ionization obviously yeah right okay so they're directly Rel you get more moving charge right so if you've got a high potential and lots of ionization you get a large current flow because those ionized particles will move in the electric field but earlier they weren't related so I'm glad we agree that they're directly related no it's the the electrical potential is not causing the ionization is what is what I'm saying electrical gradient is not
106:30 - 107:00 causing no the electrical field now they're not altitude is not causing the ionization now they're not directly related again let's read this another thing that can be measured in addition to the potential gradient is the current in the atmosphere the current density is small about 10 Micro microamps crosses each square meter parallel to the Earth the air is evidently not a perfect in L and because of this conductivity a small current caused by the electric field we've just been describing passes from the sky down to the Earth why does the
107:00 - 107:30 atmosphere have conductivity here and there among the air molecules there is an ion a molecule of oxygen say which has acquired an extra electron or perhaps lost one these ions do not stay as single molecules because of their electric field they usually accumulate a few other molecules around them each ion becomes a little lump which along with other lumps drifts in the field moving slowly upward or downward making the erve current where did the ions come from it was first guessed that the ions were produced by the radioactivity of the earth it was known that the
107:30 - 108:00 radiation from radioactive materials would make air conducting by ionizing ionizing the air molecules particles from the B Rays coming out the atomic nuclear moving so fast they tear electrons from the atoms leaving ions behind this would imply of course that if we were to go to higher altitudes we should find less ionization because the radioactivity is all in the dirt on the ground and the traces of radium uranium pottassium Etc and just even with without the radioactive input it's just like the prediction of a sphere so to test this Theory some physicists carried an experiment up in
108:00 - 108:30 balloons to measure the ionization of the air and discover that the opposite was true the ionization per unit volume increased with altitude the apparatus like figure 993 the two plates were charged periodically to the potential V due to the conductivity of the air the plate slowly discharged the rate of discharge was measured with the electrometer this was a most mysterious result the most dramatic finding in the entire history of atmospheric electricity it was so dramatic in fact that it required a branching off an entirely new subject cosmic ray atmosphere electricity itself remained
108:30 - 109:00 less dramatic ionization was evidently being produced by something from outside the Earth the investigation of this Source led to the discovery of the cosmic rays we will not discuss the subject of cosm R now except to say that they maintain the supply of ions meaning that simply assuming that the Earth is a sphere with radial distribution you can't actually explain what we see when it comes to ionization right we agree we need an external source for the ionization what I'm saying is you have a second charged actual physical plate and it could certainly be charged
109:00 - 109:30 by things from outside of that right I mean certainly there could be energy that passes through that plate that charges up that plate Etc that would then pass down certainly the ionosphere behaves like a a charge plate in equal potential plate in some senses because it's a distribution of charge but the the charge with the so looking at the um the levels of ionization right that if the electrical potential is um
109:30 - 110:00 gradient is uniform all the way up or should be uniform all the way up according to you then the amount of ionization caused by the electrical field would be the same all the way up there's no difference between 100 Vols per meter of the surface of the Earth and 100 Vols per meter at 40 km altitude so if that electric field is causing ionization it should be the same's more electric potential though and it's and
110:00 - 110:30 we have a Charged plate we have a Charged plate and this is what I'm not understanding here right first of all let's just use let's say the ionosphere is the second plate it's serve like do you is that what you think the ionosphere serves as the second goian surface for the globe um it's definitely a source of charge yeah and would it would impact the overall electric field of the earth
110:30 - 111:00 okay go ahead well I was just going to ask real quick well how do you know you're not I mean how are you not assuming that because the fact that it increases does that not indicate that it has to be a physical actual gusan surface for the fact that it increases it's a it's a a region of of higher charge density right so you're just but you're assuming that a non-physical surface could create that increase from the surface are you
111:00 - 111:30 not yeah all you need to create an electric field is an electric charge you don't have to have a second surface at all or a second you know if you've got a if the Earth is negatively charged you don't need a positive charge anywhere to create the electric field yeah but we're talking about the fact that it increases from the surface so do do you have any experimental validation that you can have that increase between two regions without two physical surfaces that to me that kind
111:30 - 112:00 of is what a lot of this is boiling down to or at least part of it the way I'm seeing it yeah yeah yeah so you you can a good example of this is your um the vandag graph generator right that you have it is a sphere it gets charged up if you were to um measure the electrical potential between um a probe and the sphere you would be able to measure the the the the the you know the spherical drop off that you would expect to see you don't need a second surface you
112:00 - 112:30 just need the sphere to be highly charged incorrect the second surface is the plate on the meter I build meters by the way I don't just use them yeah I'm about say should we play a video explaining how the capacitor works well you're measuring measuring the field there right yeah so you need to have something to measure the field Absol correct and you should admit that you were incorrect can you explain what you were saying again then please the second plate is the meter
112:30 - 113:00 itself the meter itself is not generating the electric field electric field exists without the meter being there that's cor that's correct but the measurement is able to be done by the meter because it's part of the circuit and it it gets the reason why that drops off when you get farther away is because you don't have a solid condu conductor unlike the at the atmospheric electricity experiments the conductor is
113:00 - 113:30 raised up okay with the balloon and I think you're missing that point well that's another thing altogether yeah so so we were talking about fineman's balloon experiment He was discussing it wasn't his experiment but measuring the ionization yeah so if if you take your probe you've built have one end on the generator and one end in the air you'll measure a very specific dropping voltage with distance yeah but this is increasing
113:30 - 114:00 that's the whole point it's not decreasing the voltage is increasing yes yes yeah so electrical potential is distance yeah 100 volts per meter so if at any point if that was actualized and grounded essentially this could get into potentially what you know how lightning is functioning like that that voltage is becoming actualized and then it's grounding essentially shorting the circuit in that sense but yeah the 100 volts per meter that's increasing the question is can that increase without an
114:00 - 114:30 actual physical barrier is there any way you could show that replicated without a physical barrier because the globe doesn't have that you you mean ioniz you could try to come up with ideas that there's some kind of a barrier but that would be theoretical and not able to be unless you could show that replicated yeah yeah so and that's exactly what we're just discussing the sphere the charg vand generator with a high high charge on the surface the voltage gradient going away
114:30 - 115:00 from that is um as you would expect and the voltage increases as you get further away the potential difference between you and the charge is increasing wait like I I guess what I I feel like this is really kind of simple too it's like if you want to replicate what we see on the earth you can easily do it in a lab with physical
115:00 - 115:30 surfaces you're claiming that we live on a sphere with radial distribution inside of a vacuum okay right like they would have to have the two plates and then remove one of the plates and then come up with some other thing that could act as a plate which is no you don't need a plate electrical Fields don't need two plates to have the field we have on the earth you absolutely do that's why your model tries to claim it's the ionosphere even in fan lectures even in every University
115:30 - 116:00 textbook ever that tries to explain the electric field they invoke the osphere as the second surface it's important but you don't need to have one a sphere a charge sphere or even a point charge by itself has an electric field and an electrical potential if you didn't have a plate think about what the charge would do you don't need a plate yeah about what the charge would do in an infinite vacuum you get an infinite electric
116:00 - 116:30 field okay your model invoke for the electric field we see on the earth which is actually measured to be a uniform vertical electric field with the linear electric potential gradient the voltage gradient is explained in your Paradigm by invoking the ionosphere that has major problems conceptually even if you're granted the idea that it's actually there well it constantly fluctuates within your Paradigm so you would be able to predict the actual change in the electric field and drastic changes in the electric field right based on how
116:30 - 117:00 far you could shoot radio wavs that day but that we don't see that at all we don't see major fluctuations based on the alleged ionosphere location like its height which supposedly fluctuates do of Miles the evidence I've seen is that that the 100 volt meter can vary between anywhere between 80 and 90 in 3 300 Vols per meter yes you need a direct causal relationship between your assumed ionosphere and the amount that it
117:00 - 117:30 changes what we see in reality is it changes during like lightning storms thunderstorms right and it's temporal that just wind wind is enough okay but you need to show that it changes proportionate to the alleged increase of the height of the ionosphere which in your model changes all the time minutes let alone the oblate spheroid claim so is that is that ionosphere oblate spheroid and then you've got that
117:30 - 118:00 those differences as well exactly even more a blat spheroid right the same deal right the radius if if the base radius of the spherical charge is 3,600 mil or whatever it is and we move to 3,600 or 3,700 mil or go to a mountain 3,00 610 miles um the difference between that and a perfectly perfect set of parallel
118:00 - 118:30 plates is negligible right that the linearity of the field there is very high no there what you're not understanding is we're starting from the surface that's what we're starting from okay we have a certain amount of charge to the surface now it's starting to but it's already distributed right proportion to the radius so the field strength at the surface of the sphere is based on the radius that you're at already so if you've got your initial radius of 3,600 Mi and a charge
118:30 - 119:00 distribution you have a specific um field strength at that point if you go up another 10 miles the charge is spreading out or the field is spreading out and the potential is increasing but the rate that is increasing is proportional to the change in radius that is not what is measured and observed though and what you're saying is oh well it's so close you would yeah see it's pretty close I promise you
119:00 - 119:30 wouldn't notice trust me because your 100 met is not pretty is not linear either right there's no such thing as a perfect linear but anyway I've got a run guys I'm actually meant to be at work but been an interesting chat um and I'm sure it won't be the last time we'll talk all right brother thanks for being no thanks for being cordial man y i I just want to point out that the problem remains right like the the fact that the field constantly changes we all know that that happens right like of course there's weather there's wind there's all kinds of things there's
119:30 - 120:00 elevation differences topographical differences right it constantly changes even with topographical differences it just basically the field bunches up right above the surface but then it starts to go back to its linearity on a sphere it is a consistent predictable drop off based on the R value it is a radial distribution fluctuations back and forth then it leveling back out around the general linearity is not the same thing as a consistent drop off radially those are different meaning if I go to the Top If I send a hot air
120:00 - 120:30 balloon I should know where what the voltage gradient should be in relationship to the altitude below it as it goes up and it may fluctuate some but there should be it should fluctuate from a base that's dropping off radially that is not what we observe that is not even how when you get into geoengineering patents and the Technologies they assume a linear Rel a ship of the voltage gradient that's how they measure it that's how they utilize it right and then they monitor external variables that will change it they do not say oh
120:30 - 121:00 well based on the R value it should drop off this much right the regular distribution is completely a con origin reality and so the glob will try to tell you stuff like well it's close enough don't worry about it oh well if you just take a small section it'll basically be linear it'll look like it's linear or whatever and now what we've seen now is pretty clearly the best defense is that it's like inflating the fluctuations in the field the variability of the field with uh a radial distribution but see radial is consistently changing from the
121:00 - 121:30 surface of a sphere right as opposed to randomly fluctuating based on environmental conditions and then leveling back out to a linear distribution so hopefully that makes sense but one thing uh I know that Allan sent me this I think it's probably a good thing to watch I'm G I'm going to um if you guys are cool with it it's like a f minute video and it explains how a capacitor works and clearly what the evidence shows is that we live in a giant capacitor right um so I think
121:30 - 122:00 maybe some people I'm seeing in the chat don't really um understand that so are you guys cool with playing this video real quick yep all right cool let me share the screen um and I I think the ionosphere causes serious problems for them to act like the as the surface it just I don't know it's just crazy because what it always ends up boiling down to is like something that can't be tested and just trust me
122:00 - 122:30 trust that's what I was gonna say real quick is that every time they make a prediction and it's totally totally wrong they just make up a something to explain it away that's unfalsifiable it's the most annoying [ __ ] pseudo science and they are so adamant that it's [ __ ] science and it's not science it's anti-science I agree just watch the weak wordss Gio what's up oh sorry sorry you're good good well I was just gonna say on the oblate spheroid nature of it wouldn't it
122:30 - 123:00 be different wouldn't the entire gradient be different from the equator going up versus let's say 30° latitude North or 40 degrees north wouldn't it be a like literally a different type of gradient a different uh a different distribution yes it would yeah they're gonna hide there so we see clearly what they're trying to do is hide in inside the variability of the field right the fact that the field changes based on like weather they're going to hide
123:00 - 123:30 within that and be like I promise it matches the sphere you just can never tell now you're not going to be able to tell and they're going to say the same should we add this to the list of wobbles yeah yeah bro this is the electric field Wobble the wular of the field to just fit whatever they needed to fit yeah we should get paid to make the globe all right let's uh let's check out this video explains the basic understanding of a capacitor and and this this is very interesting because this doubles as an
123:30 - 124:00 explanation for Gravity um and when you look at the sheer amount of voltage and amps coming from the sky creating this downward bias and we have on the smallest scale right like uh like Electro Stacks being 10 to 36 power stronger than grav was even claimed to be everything fits right in snugly like a little perfect puzzle piece on a plain Earth um but anyway let's watch this video I think Discord should be able to see it you guys let me know for sure that you can hear it because this is actually on X but you should be able to hear
124:00 - 124:30 it um just let me know if you can't hear it I guess and then there we go from a physics Viewpoint the energy of a capacitor is stored in the metal plates and not directly in the dialectric as we energize the wires by using a power source such as this battery notice that the two capacitor plates are accumulating charge one is positive and one is negative this creates an electrical
124:30 - 125:00 imbalance between the two plates since the electron is a negatively charged particle the negative plate is filling up with electrons this leaves the positive plate in a position where it is continually giving up electrons now we can add a electric material in between these plates if we like and that changes the electrical capacity that can be stored I'm not but
125:00 - 125:30 if we remove the dialectric no the audio is good we can hear it I don't know who said that we can here from this field it should not have any charge on it since the electric field is produced by the imbalance of this plate and this plate so the real test of this free electron Theory would be to remove the dialectric that's in this electric
125:30 - 126:00 field and then use that same dialectric and discharge it using two different metal plates and now I'll take off the electrodes and then discharge the energy that's stored in this capacitor okay now we're going to remove the top
126:00 - 126:30 and bottom plate so there'll be no metal switch the jar over to a completely different set of plates all new metal and then we're going to discharge it and this should show that the energy of a capacitor is stored in the dialectric and not in the
126:30 - 127:00 metal this is a screenshot of the capacitor discharge that we just saw you can better see the corona discharge that happens inside the bottle there are also small Corona streamers that you can see coming up
127:00 - 127:30 around the bottom of the container and then the obvious discharge and the lighting of the lamp another device I have is a Thomas Kim electroscope so I built this one based upon his design and what's great is it shows the polarity of these dialectric after you charge them you can see the positive side on the
127:30 - 128:00 bottom and the negative side on Top This is called a capacitor indeed any two metal plates separated by some distance with stuff between a knot could be called a condenser or a capacitor now this one you see can be taken apart this goes inside and this goes outside and I'm going to do some remarkable experiments now you watch what happens please a little more little more that's
128:00 - 128:30 enough thank you now I am going to disassemble that I'm going to take it apart Watch How I do it I have taken the innermost out and I have taken the middle one out and am I not connecting them all with abandon right right would you not think that if I ground this to this and this to this that all the energy would be lost would you not think so yes beginners think
128:30 - 129:00 this but watch now what happens I'm going to assemble it watch get in close watch watch do you see the energy is still there how do you like that father isn't that amazing so the question arises how is it that that I can charge this Laden jar disassemble its parts reassemble it and still have the
129:00 - 129:30 energy there okay it's now fully charged and I take these insulated handles overcome the coolon force and then oops obviously there was never any charge on this metal at all oh sure the dialectric no the dialectric we can take out of the capacitor we can roll it up as a matter of fact I'll touch both plates both plates together there's no
129:30 - 130:00 there's never was charge there [Applause] okay where you put and if you got across both those cross this room now we are going to check it okay it was right at actually about 9 KV
130:00 - 130:30 okay I got to be careful as long as I'm not grounded I should be all right so watch this okay watch [Music] this okay you can hear it's kind of staticky so what I'm going to actually do is show you that it is it is staticky it has a
130:30 - 131:00 static type feel to it okay now I'm going to roll this up this way I guess we can check our voltage it is nothing okay I can touch this nothing happens light so it doesn't Jump The Gap
131:00 - 131:30 there okay here we go so it's sitting at about uh 8 Kilt something like that so now we're going to discharge it okay so we're just going to clamp ground on here and we're basically going to discharge it so here we go hear that spark see that spark now I can touch it no
131:30 - 132:00 problem okay yeah I didn't realize that that video was that based it is a it is pretty good reminder though this goes back to Charles P sment who pointed out the misconception of uh this the charge being stored in the plates uh I mean that's not specifically related to what the argument is but I was basically like just going with generalized terms and stuff and this is
132:00 - 132:30 actually evidence of ether that's because it requires counter space for storage so basically it's the area between the coils or the area between the plates and in this SP you actually have a dialectric material that stores the charge uh yeah I mean Charles Proto diamond expl exp this and he uses the analogy of like um of like a fence that holds in animals right and it's actually the area between
132:30 - 133:00 the fence the wires of the of the like electric fence that has the charge it's not the actual wire same with the plates it's the dialectric and then that gets into counter space and how the charge is actually coming from counter space it's the area between it um which is pretty interesting but that wasn't actually that wasn't specifically about capacitors turns out but I I was going to end it because that uh that's pretty fascinating most people just kind of think that uh let pop Discord up most
133:00 - 133:30 people just kind of assume that it's stored in the plates but it's definitely not it's a dialectric material between that but anyway um yeah so I can kind of just recap my argument here cuz it is it's like 130 but um okay okay so we have a vertical electric field on the earth and we have equipotential surfaces it's 100 volts meter it fluctuates but then it goes back to its
133:30 - 134:00 General uh equip potential layout or lines right so it fluctuates based on environmental conditions and stuff like that but then it goes back so much so that we can actually predict what the voltage gradient will be like what the electric potential will be based on altitude just based on linear distance above the Earth and it does fluctuate but then whenever it kind of calms down it gets back to that General uh potential that's expected and on a sphere we should have
134:00 - 134:30 a very consistent and predictable drop off from the surface and then you would account for the change in the voltage gradient so we have a vertical voltage gradient we have linearity to the field and we have it we have it increasing from the surface uh whereas on a sphere with no um additional gajian surface you expect it to actually drop off as you get further away from the surface you expect it to drop off I mean I say exponentially it's pretty close right
134:30 - 135:00 because the further out you get the more dramatic or drastic the drop off is um you would expect uh a radial distribution that's not linear and of course the antecedent to a vertical electric field is perpendicular plates specifically to replicate in real life you need two physical plates you wouldn't have a finite volume you would have no uniformity and and then uh as we see the argument basically is oh well it's it's not uniform and that's a conflation of the base uniformity and the the uh
135:00 - 135:30 subsequent variability so hopefully I'm not going too fast with ideas there but yeah so the questions still remain right like why does it drop off going away from the or why does it increase going away from the surface and why is it linear why is there a linear distribution as opposed to a radial distribution um and of what is acting as a second gazing surface and trying to invoke the ionosphere doesn't work because within your own Paradigm and mind you this is not actually measured within the globe Paradigm it's assumed
135:30 - 136:00 so if I send a radio wave out linear or like line of sight and it'll go too far well based on where it's received people assume it must have bounced off of the ionos sphere at a certain distance because the sphere would block it and so since that distance constantly changes which on a plane Earth is easy to explain it's based on interference and attenuation of the signal right so it's based on environmental conditions between point a and point B but in the glow Paradigm you're climing it bounces down long story short the atmosphere constantly fluctuates and at different places so it's going up and down and so it would it would it would uh change and
136:00 - 136:30 drastic greatly I mean uh vary greatly or drastically specific to the uh ionosphere right this is not what we see though what we see is that it changes based on like is the wind blowing right you have ionization of wind and then um is there like thunderstorm activity is there cloud is there static charge Etc topographical differences but we do not see that all of those variables remaining constant or somewhat controlled that it's just fluctuating based on the surface moving up above it
136:30 - 137:00 right we see like a consistent distribution we see a consistent distribution of the charge now I want to address a couple more things so go ahead yeah would you say that the flatness problem could be slly associated with linear distribution the flatness problem you know how it's stretched out flat right everything's got uniformity it's symmetrical around us it's like stretched out wild correct so there's
137:00 - 137:30 your there's your um linear distribution that's the reason why so stretched out so wide what you say when you say that you mean like in the universe like the flatness problem of the universe so yeah so the flatness problem just because it's so uniformed around us in a in a in a I guess a a flat is I guess a way to put it because I did read the paper that you suggested looking at when Edwin Hubble um the
137:30 - 138:00 observational approach to cosmology he wrote to Harvard and he kind of described it in that manner and y'all were talking about linear distribution and if you do look at what they call the cosmos which I don't believe it's any of that but I it does look flat so yep you know depending on what is is over us and like you suggested earlier that it is really wide and it doesn't have to be just like this tall Dome it could be so stretched out and massive that you know
138:00 - 138:30 that's just how it works I just want to say I appreciate what you do I believe in you everything that you've spoken about I do lives on Facebook I've learned a lot from you keep doing what you're doing because it's people that are way intelligent aren't just from the 1800s so keep doing what you're doing man it's awesome your work is awesome brother thank you so much bro and uh I really appreciate it and I do understand what you're saying now so like the flatness problem where they say the universe is effectively flat and it does look like
138:30 - 139:00 that from the earth and they come up with all kinds of stories about inflaton and stuff like that cuz it doesn't match their big bang cosmology but yeah that would fit right within with like some giant containment that's effectively serving as like a second flat parallel surface above us yeah until you got to the edges and the question is question where are those good I'm sorry didn't me interrupt you I got a question for you so we have a North this is um North Pole they say with a um an iron like some type of great Black Rock right so is the
139:00 - 139:30 force pulling to the north what it good question so I think the north personally I think that the North Pole is in the sky and I think that the South Pole is below the Earth I think that the center of the earth is not a technical North Pole of a magnet magnetic field I I think it's it's the center I was looking at it and the flux goes inward doesn't it like if it's if it's going down that's a Southward pool wouldn't it
139:30 - 140:00 be well yeah I mean you get into what is a North and South Pole which is it's a whole R it it goes inward like your compass basically tilts down a bit and that makes perfect sense when you have like centripetal convergence meaning like the field is as a Vortex and it's converging in at the center the reason our Compass is drawn that way is cuz that's the closest proximity of pressure mediation meaning like we're not close enough to the North or South Pole to affect our Compass right that's what I think right also I'm 15 minutes from Lio
140:00 - 140:30 Livingston oh Li wait ligo was Lio yeah Lio what's is the the actual abstract for they found gravitational waves out somewhere if you read that abstract and instead of looking at it as they're shooting into Cosmos look at it as a linear kind of view Scope when you go into the abstract they talk about white noise and gaan
140:30 - 141:00 noise and all these pink all these noises and then you start looking at what it is actually it's like a terahertz frequency isn't it that they're emitting two cross convergent lasers that create a some type of frequency isn't that correct yes okay so imagine this is a big topic behind this and what I'm I I read through the abstract and what they do in the same type of terahertz frequency they kind of use in
141:00 - 141:30 airports correct so what if what I'm just saying it could be weird as like I think they know it far it's out there what it if you stop and think about it really you know what I'm saying if they if they're true scientists they already know they got funding from people that already know that they're you know that we have a close system think about it so what are they really using it for just saying can register you know register like any kind
141:30 - 142:00 of goua noise they can depict it makes old tiles this frequency makes like these old tiles so it's like a sixd cad rendering of everything then you if you want to go into like the atomic scale of what's in our atmosphere because of what's above us that goes up comes down that they emit it's in our substrate it's in all of the like the foliage and all of our trees and stuff through the years these scaler waves have this certain probably microp particle that is accepted it doesn't kill any of our green you know grass and stuff like that
142:00 - 142:30 it's a natural py particle it's not good for us to breathe on a major scale but anyway I think that this frequency can pass through all of our substrate basically and and and just focus on centralized areas it's pretty deep when you get into the abstract on it you'll kind of get a better understand what I'm trying to expl it does uh stopping scaler is really difficult I uh have attempted to uh basically F uh to block it or even and I
142:30 - 143:00 can Bas can't really block it but I am able to like get it to change uh directions slightly like you can kind of get it to bounce a little bit like depending on the angle of like the materials you're using and you need like really special Alloys um but yeah that stuff is Lally impossible to block yes I believe that I think I hear like and I'm not trying to they they they call the um
143:00 - 143:30 thing tentis and we have actual crystalline structures within our our our ear cavity right like actual crystalline structures an actual element they say so I mean this is you know medicine but anyway so um you know it's Elemental there it's fractal it's all waves up potential energy it's just awesome thing and when you get into listening to like these teachings that wit's doing Dave Weiss you got jiren it's amazing because the truth fears no
143:30 - 144:00 scrutiny and it Bears witness with the vessel and that's what's so awesome about and that's what draws people in so wi it keep doing what you're doing and I just wanted to come forward and say this we Pebbles and I've been watching your shows forever God bless you man keep doing what you're doing I want to sign off thanks for letting me uh say a few things I'm from holding Louisiana God bless thanks thanks for saying something man thanks for the kind words I think that's a pretty crazy idea I I think that there may be some powers that be that can maybe know there's a containment but
144:00 - 144:30 it's pretty brilliant the way that they've done this if you think you're on a sphere and you have an omnidirectional observable universe then anywhere you are there would be some type of uh curvature to perceived curvature to the sky although in an overall linear uh like flat expression in all directions so like if you were to receive signals you think there's an bending around the globe and it constantly fluctuates that's going to you're going to see that there's a change in the alleged curvature rate but you're just going to think it's because the atmosphere is variable you're going to do a lot of
144:30 - 145:00 these tests and not really even know and then whenever you don't know the medium that's above you you're going to interpret it to be vast distances when in fact the propagation is going through a more dense medium meaning that things would be much more local you would just think that they're much further away so all have to say I think that within kind of like the reified pseudoscientific concept of this of this model they believe in I don't I think that the vast majority of people wouldn't know when you actually read their papers from ligo and about gravitational waves and about antimatter and all this stuff like they're clearly lost in the sauce there
145:00 - 145:30 probably is a power that has taken the experimental data like that of harp as well right in Lio and kind of understanding like well there's a theoric vibrational displacement that's what we're actually observing and there's a fluid dense medium surrounding us but I think that the vast majority of the people doing the test they don't know they run it through like neural networks and they kind of just like like cherry pick and reify their model but I do want to say this real fast about the um gravity thing so like when I bring up well okay I mean if we want to talk about the cause of it we can prove of
145:30 - 146:00 course that you can pull the whole entire Dynamic claim out of this newtonium belief of mass attracts mass and is simply chematic and that the mass attracting mass is is not reliable it's not viable Etc and that's a whole different stream it boils down a simply kinematic and you can directly falsify even mathematically falsify the dynamic claim of mass tracks mask even on the source of some scull shout out to mstone he did that he pointed it out he explained like even the sun earth Moon relationship doesn't work with the Newtonian Dynamics mathematically
146:00 - 146:30 there's a whole problem with it but the point is that they don't have a cause relationship but the Flat Earth does a plain Earth does and it is electric and so when you look at it you know yeah sure you have 10 micro micro amps per square meter but there's a lot of square meters right we have an insane amount of energy coming down from above us and it creates this bias it's 10 to 36 power stronger than gra even claimed to be on the smallest scale so I want to go through um this does this is the followup of the fact that of course we have a again we have a uniform vertical electric field it slightly fluctuates
146:30 - 147:00 based on environmental conditions but the overall distribution is uniform and linear so we have equip potential surfaces so just Envision in your mind a flat Earth a plain Earth and then like parallel lines coming up from that just like we saw with fan lectures 100 volts per meter all the way up to anywhere that can be accessible including with balloons 30 mil up or whatever then it's there an exp potential linear increase from the surface um and it's exactly what you would get if you were to replicate it with two parallel plates
147:00 - 147:30 now you so when I did the parallel plates and you saw in the in the documentary that I did you saw Zach do it veritasium's done it right so we have everything discharging on the earth in reality well you'd have your negative plate your positive plate it would just stay exactly the way it is you put something in it it's going to go to the bottom plate if you then put a vagra generator and you make the top plate the negative plate and you begin to introduce charge electrostatic charge what happens is it flips the polarity of the field between the two plates and the object will go up so you're shown a direct manipulation with the
147:30 - 148:00 directionality of the field between the plates and that changes the direction things go so you've actually done science right the dependent variable the naturally occurring observable phenomena is that objects go up Andor down you're trying to figure out the cause of that well you you you have a presumed cause or independent variable you can control your other variables so like the density of the object the density of the medium Etc so you control those variables let's say density for example and then you manipulate the independent variable or your presumed cause which is
148:00 - 148:30 electrostatics or the electrostatic field right and that the that electrostatic field is actually going to cause the object to go up and or down you manipulate that and you change the direction or the vector which is magnitude and direction of the object so you've proven scientifically there's a direct cause relationship between the electrostatic field the environment electrically with the object and its direction okay now again on a small scale it's 10 to 36 power strong as gr is even claimed to be on a plain Earth you do not need anything else to explain 9.8 m/s squar it's very nearly constant
148:30 - 149:00 fluctuates just like the downward electric current on the earth is very nearly constant but slightly fluctuates it explains the phenomena of gravity perfectly this is what people say back to supposedly reut it if that was true well then it would be um like a dual pole like dual polar and so you have the positive and the negative charge and they're not understanding like no it's electrostatic it's based on a voltage gradient right and you have a singular Direction down creating the bias and then everything distributes relative to that they will say oh well if that was
149:00 - 149:30 true we'd be able to have anti-gravity cars or whatever right it would be super easy well that isn't true either so you can fully replicate it with something small and depending on your vag graph gener you could do it with something big but to try to make someone like a human Levitate by manipulating the you would have to kill them hundreds if not thousands of times over so far beyond a lethal amount that obviously no one's going to test that
149:30 - 150:00 that doesn't mean that physics all of a sudden goes out the window and doesn't scale just because it would require so much voltage that you would kill someone right and so to say oh well sure you're actually manipulating the direction things go by in you know manipulating the independent variable but I promise or that doesn't count because you can't do it with something bigger is ignorant it's like dropping a ping-pong ball in water and be like sure the density of the ping pong ball makes it float but I promise until you it doesn't count until you get the world's biggest pingpong ball and thow in the ocean I don't believe you it's like okay well that's
150:00 - 150:30 weird and physics scales it doesn't change and you know the mechanism is the same blah blah blah so those are like the two main things that you'll hear is like oh why don't things with different charges fall at different rates well first of all who us to say that they don't because things actually do fall at different rates and they fall at different rates during thunderstorm activity and I know I'm covering a lot of stuff and maybe this will make people like to see it when I cover a lot of stuff but like who's to say they don't fall different rates because they're in a thunderstorm activity objects do fall at different rates okay and the the rate
150:30 - 151:00 that it falls is going to change very slightly it's very nearly constant what a coincidence that the down electric current the electric field on the earth is very nearly constant the rate at which Things Fall is very nearly constant now Walter Lu showed you the problem he said everything that controls what we see on the earth is actually run by electrical forces and everything is held together by electrical forces and when you get on the big scale when it comes to galaxies and planets and stars that's when gravity takes over well it's because in their model of an immense distances of a vacuum and huge masses it
151:00 - 151:30 doesn't work electrostats is way too weak now we don't have to believe in any of that nor does it even have to be the same reason that Things fall down we have electrostatic field vertical electric field on the earth and then things in the sky could just be electromagnetic right because we don't live in this confinement of oh things must be pulled on directional to a sphere so whatever is doing that must be the same thing that's pulling all these giant objects around each other in the sky that isn't the case now you do need a force going around the central point on a stationary plane and that is of
151:30 - 152:00 course the vortex that we measure with interferometry Etc it's a giant Taurus field you have red shift because of electromagnetic retardation going out from the outside and that's why we see red shift you know typically relative to what we perceive to be distance and then we have a giant Vortex everything moving around that is a force you know a spatial extension of the magnetic the convergent dialectric counter spatial component I know that that sounds it's word solid whatever I'm not that's not what it's about but the point I'm trying to make to you is this is the key to what's
152:00 - 152:30 going on the electric fill on the earth is it's right in front of everyone and you go outside and at thunderstorm your hair sticks up bumblebees utilize this to pick certain flowers they they utilize this to even fly like it's right in front of you what's going on right and you have all kinds of Sparks called lightning which are electrical discharges specifically dielectrical discharges and they're everywhere and we're constantly seeing this we're grounding things the fuel plane we ground it we know that everything is constantly receiving charge from its
152:30 - 153:00 environment and if you don't ground it it could be dangerous we use this every day and it's it makes perfect sense it unifies everything on the quantum scale everything's electromagnetic it's the strongest variable right and they reify all kinds of Concepts below that but it's too weak to find it blah blah blah so what I'm trying to tell you is there is there is a very logical intuitive coherent explanation to where you live all right and it's that you're on a plane that there's a surface above you parallel to you right into the plane
153:00 - 153:30 that you live on and there's just an a finite volume that gives you equip potential increase right there just a finite volume for the electric field and that there's energy up above you it comes down it kind of like breathes on you electrically it creates this bias to the ground everything seeks equilibrium based on that the the quote unquote molecules the matter it's self is co is clumped together based on the electric charge and everything is just very simple everything's very simple it's what you see everything's electric well how would gravity not be electric if
153:30 - 154:00 literally everything that exists is electric and gravity is not a bad word it means weight so I'm bringing all this up to say that I know that this is a foreign concept of people and whenever there is um a concept or or evidence let's say a phenomena that doesn't work perfectly in the globe you won't hear about it you know like you know people haven't heard about the vertical electric gradient the equa potential increase why have people not heard about that why is that not something you're TI seems like a pretty
154:00 - 154:30 important variable or phenomena in life right like you're surrounded an electric field why would you not know about that it's because the globe doesn't really have a fully functional model for it they've moved the goalpost for over a hundred years I don't know how to explain it so that's why you haven't heard of it and and this is going to go full circle back to to what the questions are the questions are why does the potential increase away from the surface and why is it a linear Distribution on a sphere it should be radial it should change predictably away
154:30 - 155:00 from the the surface of the Earth um it's going to spread out more and more and so it's going to start to drop off more and more and that is not what we observe we