The Most POPULAR Oral Steroids!! Are They Worth It, Or Not?

Summary

In this comprehensive discussion, VigorousSteve delves into the world of oral anabolic steroids, evaluating their worth and application. Starting with a focus on Anavar, he explores its benefits, dosage recommendations, and its place in the steroid hierarchy. He also discusses other popular oral steroids like Proviron, Turinabol, and Winstrol, evaluating their effectiveness in different contexts and shedding light on when they might be worth using. Offering a mix of scientific insights and personal anecdotes, Steve provides a detailed overview of these substances, their effects, and the nuances of their usage for both men and women, while also cautioning about potential side effects and misuse.

Highlights

• Steve emphasizes Anavar's unique place as a versatile and effective oral steroid for both men and women. 🌟
• Proviron is often misunderstood; it's not a substitute for testosterone but can adjust hormone levels effectively. ⚙️
• Turinabol is ideal for beginners due to its manageable side effects and ease of use. 🌱
• Winstrol is celebrated for its cutting phase benefits but requires careful handling due to potential joint issues. ❄️

Key Takeaways

• Anavar is considered one of the best oral steroids due to its metabolic resistance and sustained anabolic effects. 💪
• Proviron is mainly useful for lowering sex hormone-binding globulin to increase free testosterone but is not highly anabolic. 🚫
• Turinabol is seen as a suitable choice for first-time users due to its mild effects and non-aromatizing properties. 🍼
• Winstrol can enhance muscle definition and skin thinning but may negatively affect connective tissue and joint health. ⚠️
• Individuals should carefully consider the source and dosage of oral steroids to avoid underdosed or ineffective products. 🕵️‍♂️

Overview

In his detailed analysis, Steve praises Anavar for its robust anabolic effect and safety profile that allows for extended use, making it a favorite among both genders. His fascination with Anavar is palpable as he describes it as an Amazonian goddess among steroids, particularly for its ability to be run at low doses long-term without significant side effects.

Steve addresses the frequent misconceptions regarding Proviron, highlighting its use not for direct muscle building but for its ability to adjust hormone-binding proteins in the bloodstream. He explains its primary role in lowering sex hormone-binding globulin to help increase testosterone availability, although cautioning against overuse.

Turinabol and Winstrol come next in his scrutiny. Turinabol is presented as a good choice for newcomers to steroids given its non-aromatizing nature. In contrast, Winstrol is celebrated for its definition-enhancing properties but criticized for potentially negative effects on joint and tendon health, underscoring the need for careful dosing and consideration of individual response.

Chapters

• 00:00 - 01:00: Introduction to Oral Steroids In today's episode of 'Worth It or Not,' the focus is on oral steroids, specifically the dihydrotestosterone derivatives. Steve, often speaking favorably of anavar, addresses whether it is worth pursuing, given the challenges of sourcing legitimate versions online. The discussion includes four such derivatives, three of which are 17 Alpha alculated, a modification that reduces liver metabolism.
• 01:00 - 03:00: Popular Oral Steroids Overview This chapter discusses the metabolism and bioavailability of 17 Alpha-alkylated oral anabolic androgenic steroids. It reveals that consuming grapefruit juice can reduce the metabolism and increase the bioavailability of these substances. Additionally, it mentions a fourth compound that isn't a 17 Alpha-alkylated steroid, which acts as a substrate for three hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase enzymes in skeletal muscle. This interaction further reduces the anabolic potential and overall bioavailability of the compound.
• 03:00 - 11:00: Proviron: Uses and Considerations This chapter introduces the video series on oral anabolic androgenic steroids, focusing on Proviron. It mentions that Proviron is one of the most commonly known and easily sourced steroids. Proviron's chemical name is chloro dehydromethyltestosterone (CDMT), also known as Trinal. The chapter notes that Trinal was the only steroid originally designed specifically for athletes, although it has been administered to athletes without their consent.
• 11:00 - 15:00: Importance of SHBG and Testosterone Levels The chapter delves into the controversial history and application of doping protocols, specifically mentioning the hush-hush practices in East Germany. It highlights oxandrolone, known by the brand name Anavar, as the top oral steroid available. Its versatility is praised, noting its suitability for both men and women and its efficacy across various dosage levels and cycle designs. The narrator expresses strong support for oxandrolone, emphasizing its significance. Additionally, the chapter mentioned the discussion of another substance, stenzo L, though details are not provided within the excerpt.
• 15:00 - 20:00: Exploring Turinabol This chapter is titled 'Exploring Turinabol'. The transcript begins with an introduction encouraging viewers to engage with the channel by liking, commenting, subscribing, and turning on notifications. The speaker then proceeds to discuss Milan Proviron, questioning its worth and the contexts in which Proviron might offer benefits. The transcript also hints at a comparison or evaluation of Prov, although specific benefits are not detailed in the provided text.
• 20:00 - 25:00: Anavar: The Amazonian Goddess of Steroids The chapter discusses the compound Anavar and its role in steroid use. It emphasizes that Anavar has low anabolic properties, requiring higher doses for effective use. However, there are other compounds available that can achieve better anabolism at lower dosages. Proviron is mentioned as a possible alternative with a high affinity for the sex hormone binding.
• 25:00 - 30:00: Oxandrolone's Benefits and Usage The chapter discusses the use and benefits of Oxandrolone, particularly focusing on its ability to lower sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) concentrations and increase free testosterone levels in the bloodstream. It highlights how Proviron, often used for enhancing libido, has been prescribed in instances of Androgen deficiency. However, the text advises that Proviron should not be considered a suitable replacement for testosterone in treating Androgen deficiency, suggesting that testosterone is the proven best approach in such cases.
• 30:00 - 40:00: Winstrol: When and How to Use The chapter discusses the use of Winstrol in the context of testosterone replacement therapy (TRT). It specifically focuses on how to adjust sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels that remain higher than desired, even when maintaining serum testosterone levels between 700 and 1200 nanograms per deciliter with bi-weekly administrations. The goal is to optimize SHBG levels to a target of 20 to 30 nanomoles per liter, as current levels might still lie between 40 to 60 nanomoles per liter.
• 40:00 - 45:00: Conclusion: Evaluating Oral Steroids The chapter titled 'Conclusion: Evaluating Oral Steroids' discusses the use of Proviron, specifically at a dosage of 12.5 milligrams taken in the morning and evening, to reduce sex hormone-binding globulin (SHBG) levels and increase free testosterone. The discussion highlights a potential issue with SHBG, which forms a receptor complex that can enhance anabolic processes through different pathways aside from the androgen receptor. This interaction, in turn, increases cyclic adenosine monophosphate (cAMP) inside the cells, affecting the anabolic processes.

The Most POPULAR Oral Steroids!! Are They Worth It, Or Not? Transcription

• 00:00 - 00:30 and yeah yeah yes Steve you always talk about anavar like it's the best thing ever but be honest with this bro is anavar really worth it is it worth sourcing the entire internet for finding legitimate anavar figure Steve here on today's episode of worth it or not we're going to discuss four oral ESS dihydro testosterone derivatives three of them are 17 Alpha alculated reducing metabolism in the liver on the first
• 00:30 - 01:00 pass and between you and me you can actually reduce this metabolism and increase the bioavailability of 17 Alpha alculated oral anabolic androgenic steroids with grapefruit juice don't tell anybody that's our secret and the fourth compound which we're going to discuss isn't 17 Alpha alkal and a very good substrate for the three hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase enzymes which are found in skeletal muscle which further reduces its anabolic potential and its overall bioavailability we're going to
• 01:00 - 01:30 start off this video series which oral anabolic androgenic steroids are worth it or not with the most cookie cutter steroids anybody could Source anywhere that are very commonly used that everybody's familiar with Mone brand name proviron chloro de hydrome methyl testosterone abbreviated to cdmt brand name trinal the only steroid which was designed for athletes albeit that many of these athletes were administered with table with without their knowledge so
• 01:30 - 02:00 that was a little bit of a hush hush doping protocol as part of East Germany we're going to discuss oxandrolone brand name anavar which is hands down no contest no ifs or buts about it the best oral steroid out there that can be taken for longer periods of time whether you're a woman or a man higher dosages lower dosages any kind of cycle design oxandrolon has its place right I'm a huge fan of oxandrolon and we're also going to discuss stenzo L brand name
• 02:00 - 02:30 winol before we get into all of that please like the video leave a comment for the algorithm and consider subscribing if you haven't already and please do me a solid hit the notification Bell button so you can get notified whenever a new worth it or not video drops let's start with M alone proviron is proviron worth taking or not in which context does Prov offer some benefits again I already mentioned that Von is readily metabolized by the three
• 02:30 - 03:00 Alpha hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase enzymes that means it has very low anabolic properties and you would need to dose this compound relatively high now if you're going to dose compounds relatively High there's much more suitable compounds out there that will potentiate anabolism even at lower and much more effective dosages so what can we use proviron for well contextually speaking there's only one reason to use proviron because it has such a high affinity for the sex hormone binding
• 03:00 - 03:30 globulin proviron can be used to lower sex hormone binding globulin concentrations in the bloodstream and increase free testosterone concentrations fingers crossed the main reason why people use proviron is to enhance their libido now proviron has been prescribed in cases of Androgen deficiency I don't think that's a suitable replacement for testosterone so if you're suffering from Androgen deficiency test is [ __ ] best but if
• 03:30 - 04:00 you're using a trt dose a true trt dose where serum testosterone levels are made on top of the reference range let's be a little bit more generous let's say 700 n per deciliter upwards of 1200 n per deciliter and in this context with bi-weekly administrations you see that your seing globin levels are still not optimal you would like to have them around 20 25 30 nanom per liter but in this case your shbg levels are 40 50 maybe still 60 nanomoles per liter in
• 04:00 - 04:30 this context you can use a lowd do proviron 12.5 milligrams in the morning and in the evening to reduce your shbg levels and free more testosterone now there's an issue here because there's a sex binding globulin receptor complex which potentiates anabolism through a different pathway besides the Androgen receptor when testosterone binds to shbg and attaches to the receptor complex on the cell membrane it increases cyclic ad
• 04:30 - 05:00 deny monophosphate concentrations within skeletal muscle which further activates the Androgen receptor and acts as a co-actor for Androgen mediated Gene transcription now if there's proviron in the seal mining globulin and the testosterone is floating around you probably miss out on the cyclic adenosine monophosphate so the testosterone that you're taking might actually be less anabolic you're taking the place of testosterone in the shbg with provid now proviron will lower shbg
• 05:00 - 05:30 concentrations over time freeing up more testosterone so maybe initially you notice that your liido will go up but over time as you keep taking proviron especially at higher dosages the shbg declines further and further and further now the cyclic adenosine monophosphate concentrations within skeletal muscle and perhaps other tissues in the body is rapidly declining not activating and acting as a co-actor for Androgen mediated Gene transcription and now you're Lo losing out on anabolism now
• 05:30 - 06:00 you're losing out on libido and well-being and this is a common side effect of people that megga do or overdo their proviron or Crush their shbg levels too much thinking that it's going to improve their libido but in reality it actually made it worse you have to respect proviron for what it is it has one sole purpose to reduce shbg and if you're on trt and you're doing daily micare administrations let's say 1550 milligrams test anate cypionate propionate whatever Esther you prefer
• 06:00 - 06:30 that will already reduce shbg levels because daily micro administrations reduces the conversion of testosterone into estradi and estr regulates shbg production in the liver so a steady unlu of antigens and a reduced aromatization potential through daily micro administrations you'll see that shbg levels generally speaking are already optimal and in this case there's absolutely no need to add proviron to
• 06:30 - 07:00 your trt protocol to reduce shbg further proviron has a relative binding affinity for the section one binding gloin compared to dihydrotestosterone at 80% up to 440 per. there's a range here because there's only been two surveys where they determine the relative binding Affinity of proviron compared to DHD which has a relative binding Affinity of 100 that's the gold standard for binding Infinity to the shbg and when you compare that to wind
• 07:00 - 07:30 it has a relative binding Infinity of 1 to 36% compared to DHD if you take windol 10 migs or per 25 milligrams from all the blood work that I've seen you see a comparable reduction in shbg again you see a worse reduction in HDL levels with wind strol but you also see more anabolism as a result of that right because wind strol has anabolic potential and proviron does not so there's only one context where you want to use proviron and that's solely to
• 07:30 - 08:00 reduce your shbg and I also know what you guys are going to say but Steve proviron also acts as a reversely binding aromatized inhibitor reducing the conversion of testosterone into estrad keeping serum estrad concentrations in range yes this will also reduce shbz levels further so now you get even less anabolism out of it so yes you can use piron during trt for that purpose reduce shbg freeing your testosterone levels a little bit more increasing your libido reducing the
• 08:00 - 08:30 conversion of testosterone into estrad again don't overdo it because you need testosterone and estrad and shbg for flawless libido and besides that there's no real application of using provarin on cycle you can use primabol or balone or dihydroboldenone or Mone to reduce the conversion of testosterone into estral because those compounds are also known to reversely bind to the aromatized
• 08:30 - 09:00 enzyme and prevent the conversion of testosterone into Ester but these compounds don't pass the liver don't potentiate any liver toxicity don't get metabolized in the liver on the first pass because you're taking them as an injectable they're estrop resulting in more stable serum concentrations and they're actually anabolic choose those compounds over proviron if you're actually doing a cycle and looking for anabolism last thing you might be able to consider if you're drug-free I've had
• 09:00 - 09:30 consultations with people who absolutely do not want to take injectables their serum shbd levels are very very high for whatever reason in that context a puny dose of 6.25 milligrams per viron once or twice per day spaced over two administrations morning and evening or only 6.5 milligrams per viron in the morning is more than enough to reduce shbg levels to more favorable ranges increasing libido by freeing up the little amount of endogenous testosterone
• 09:30 - 10:00 that they're producing no longer being stuck in the shbg but still weakly bound to alamine of course so in this context they might be able to improve libbido and increase their state of well-being because of it but 6.25 milligrams for iron or even 12.5 milligrams foron per day seems to be not enough to downregulate the hpta so there might be something to say for using proviron when you're otherwise drug free again you don't qualify as calling yourself drug free because provon after all is an
• 10:00 - 10:30 anabolic androgenic steroid albe it's very very low in androgenicity and very very low in anabolism it's still classified as one so you're no longer Natty but if you don't care about that a low dose of piron might be the Tipping Point between having decent libido and pretty goddamn good libido right so this is the only two places where I feel that provon has its place I know there are coaches out there that really Mega doiron 100 milligrams per day 200 300 milligrams oral proviron per day and
• 10:30 - 11:00 they seem to get good results of it I've never recommended that much proviron or recommended any proviron during a contest prep I've always um gotten pretty good results with the other oral steroids which we're going to discuss in this worth it or not video series so um I'm probably the wrong guy to ask for proviron during contest prep but I know there are fans of provon during contest prep and there seem to be quite a few of them so there must be something to say for it let's move over to trinal chloro dehydro testosterone the only steroid
• 11:00 - 11:30 designed for athletes when is it worth it well I think it's worth it on your first cycle so let's say you start with your first cycle I've discussed this a couple times before you're going with an oral that doesn't aromatized unlike the anabal for example that is always a very popular Kickstart which well that's the cycle of yester year I don't advise anybody to do a the anal Kickstart already made videos about that I'll link it at the end of this one so instead of using the anal on your first cycle ruining your
• 11:30 - 12:00 aromatization potential and of course resulting in a lot of acne water attention Moon and uh well luckily a danal comes with skin splitting pump so at least that's cool but I feel that Terin bable is a suitable replacement now I don't know anybody that uses Terin ball later on in their performance enhancing drug Journey but in the beginning when you're just getting your hands dirty with anabolic endogenic steroids you have your testosterone base you got some experience with that and then you want to add to reable on top
• 12:00 - 12:30 for let's say 8 weeks 12 weeks in duration in a low dose of maybe 25 mg and then titrate upwards to get more results out of it I don't see anything wrong with that entable doesn't metabolize into estr unlike dianal which metabolizes into metabolism resistant methyl eser so it's a little bit more cumbersome to manage and you do need to increase your aromatized Inhibitors or other dihydro testosterone derivatives to control how dianal converts it isn't the case with tyin Bol so it's
• 12:30 - 13:00 reasonably safe and not too cumbersome to add on top of your first cycle as long as you do your blood work on testosterone only you figure out how you need to control your serum estrad concentrations you can add pinable on top now it's chlorinated this is one of the few compounds which is chlorinated at the fourth position meaning that it has little to zero androgenetic properties again the antigenic to anabolic rating of trinal has been determined on paper there's an androgenic rating of zero and an
• 13:00 - 13:30 anabolic rating of 100 again most of the anabolic to androgenic ratings have been determined on rodents in faulty studies which I still need to make a video about so maybe at one point I'll make a video debunking the anabolic and antigenic ratings for now all you need to know is that it potentiates very little androgenicity only anabolism which from anecdotal evidence and what I've seen with firsttime cyclers turns out to be quite true and generally speaking you don't really see any signs of virilization when men use thin Ball but
• 13:30 - 14:00 when women use thin ball there are certainly signs of virilization so even though on paper the androgenic rating of trinal is zero in practical application tyin Bol can certainly cause viralization so you would see maybe hair growth in places that you do not expect or changing of the voice and deepening of The Voice or maybe a little bit of hair loss right reall certainly not hair safe even though it's doubted to be hair safe I don't believe that's the case at all all still out of all the oral
• 14:00 - 14:30 anabolic endogenic STS you can choose from if you're doing a first cycle Terin Bol is probably the best oral you can choose to get your hands dirty and trinal has a reasonably long half-life of up to 16 hours making dosing quite easy you could choose to take the entire dose of tyin bable pre-workouts put that sublingually to increase the absorption increase the bioavailability by preventing the pass the first pass through the liver with lows it's bio availability then swallow the remainder
• 14:30 - 15:00 with grapefruit juice so you get the most bang for your buck on this reasonably benign anabolic androgenic steroids which you can take orally but preferably sublingually now how does it compare to oxandrolone anavar well we already know the answer so I'm not going to bore you with it what I will link at the end of this video is my comparison video comparing to rable to anavar which cases they can be used and how they compare between each other long story short short anavar wins of course and
• 15:00 - 15:30 yeah yeah yes Steve you always talk about anavar like it's the best thing ever but be honest with this bro is anavar really worth it is it worth sourcing the entire internet for finding legitimate anavar that's accurately doed containing actually anavar not something else or buying pharmaceutical grade anavar that seems to be five times the price of underground lab anavar and dosed freaking 2.5 milligrams per tablet Steve is it all worth it well look at it
• 15:30 - 16:00 this way in most of the situations where you find yourself taking anabolic androgenic steroids whether that's orally or injectable anavar always has its place it seem or at least in my book if anavar was a person she would be an Amazonian goddess or She-Hulk or Wonder Woman I mean man anavar is the [ __ ] I would love to run anavar year round and well I've actually have done that in the past at a lot dose of 2.5 or 5 Mig Anar per day
• 16:00 - 16:30 many guys would say that's crazy why would you run 5 milligrams Anar per day well it's the best compound out there that you can take orally and a low dose of 2.5 mg 5 milligrams maybe upwards of 10 milligrams per day for months in duration is where anavar truly shines one of the reasons is that anavar contains an oxygen atom at the C2 position making it resistant to metabolis ISM by the three Alpha
• 16:30 - 17:00 hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzymes which are found in skeletal muscle so unlike proviron which is readily metabolized and inactivated oxandrolone anavar is metabolism resistant just like methyl esile is metabolism resistant now xandr will continue potentiate its anabolic properties it passes through the liver if you take it Orly on the first pass and then ends up in skeletal muscle becoming metabolism resistant and iting more of an effect compared to
• 17:00 - 17:30 other steroids which don't contain this oxygen atom that anavar has anavar is probably the only sustainable anabolic steroid which you can take orally but ideally sublingually and wash down with grapefruit juice to increase its bioavailability further increasing its potential for anabolism anavar will keep transcribing DNA increasing its overall potential for anabolism and a low and effective dose doesn't seem to potenti apprciate any negative effects on your
• 17:30 - 18:00 liver and marginal effects on your lipid panel that's why I think anavar is best so in which context and dosing protocol can we use anavar if you can limit the dose to 2.5 milligram or 5 milligrams anavar per day I feel it's pretty safe to run year round I know several women who have run 2.5 milligrams anavar year round and got zero viralization if if anything they only ended up muscular a little bit more horny so that's an add benefit if you're in a relationship with
• 18:00 - 18:30 a girl running anavar don't put the girl on anavar to make her horny but if she decides by herself to run a low those anavar year round to look a little bit more fit and get all of the benefits associated with anavar well I hope your Sixx Drive is up to par and for men whether you're on trt or doing a full-blown cycle and everything in between 2.5 to 5 migs anavar year round goes a very very very very long way now once you start escalating those upwards to 20 Mig per day 50 migs per day I
• 18:30 - 19:00 don't see how anybody can tolerate 50 Mig pharmaceutical legitimate 100% Purity anavar per day I don't see how anybody could tolerate it um so if you're dosing your anavar at 50 milligrams per day or 100 milligrams per day it's probably tunable baby or it's severely underdosed I cannot tolerate anything upwards of 25 Mig anavar per day and this is coming from a guy that ran 2 G of testosterone annotate per
• 19:00 - 19:30 week and besides all of that there's a ton of scientific evidence covering various treatments involving oxandra loone in a multitude of different clinical settings and there's a lot of literature about oxandrolone in animal models or how oxandrolone acts in Vivo as well as in vitro there's a lot of research you can do on this particular compound and many of these studies that you'll read about oxandrolone show that it's highly promising in a multitude of different settings that it's very
• 19:30 - 20:00 beneficial for collagen synthesis wound repair and oxandrolone might act as a partial antagonist for The glucocorticoid receptors inhibiting some of the negative effects that corticosteroids have on skeletal muscle or other parts of the body most notably the connective tissue we all know that corticosteroids can reduce inflammation but they also inhibit and reduce healing and collagen synthesis now a compound like oxandrolone or stanazolol or trone or halotestin for that matter they're
• 20:00 - 20:30 all known to inhibit these effects of cortical steroids and halotestin might be the most potent in this regard not only blocking The glucocorticoid receptors but also inhibiting the enzymes which were responsible for the metabolism of cortisol into cortisone which is biologically inactive now these enzymes are the 11 beta hydroxy steroid dehydrogenase enzymes not to be mistaken with the three Alpha hydroxysteroid dehydrogenase enzymes which are found in
• 20:30 - 21:00 skeletal muscle which inactivate steroid hormones and the 11 beta hsd enzymes are responsible for the breakdown of cortisol so halotestin uniquely and we're probably better off discussing this in the halotestin worth it or not video quick tangent here with Halo testin you see that serum cortisol levels actually go quite High because cortisol has nowhere to bind to and nowhere to metabolize into right so this is unique characteristic of halotestin and the only real negative effects that
• 21:00 - 21:30 you feel from this super physiological amount of cortisol is a very high blood pressure and increased aggression so now you're stimulating aggression through the cortisol pathway in the brain as well as the andren pathway in the brain in the form of halotestin all right back to oxandrolone so this is a unique characteristic of oxandrolone that overlaps into Tren bone wistol and Halo testin but those three aren't very sustainable Trenbolone exposure 6 to 8 weeks windol exposure maybe 8 to 12
• 21:30 - 22:00 weeks is if it's injectable and I would limit oral windol exposure to maybe 8 weeks in duration because again it passes through the liver we'll discuss that next after we're done with oxandrolon and Halo testin well that's a LoveHate relationship of two weeks and you'll love the way you look and how strong you get on Halo testin but you'll hate the way you feel you'll hate yourself for hating everything else so again oxandrolone is the only sustainable compound that potentiate
• 22:00 - 22:30 some anti corticosteroid effects it's still being prescribed quite readily for burn victims or to potentiate collagen synthesis in cases of muscle wasting diseases and CIA up to dosages of 20 milligrams per day now when you look at all of the prescription literature besides testosterone and oxymetholone oxandrolone probably has one of the highest prescription dosages of 140 milligrams per week and that's estess so
• 22:30 - 23:00 that's pure oxandrolone at 140 milligrams per week now prescription of testosterone inthat or cenate would range anywhere between 100 milligrams to 150 milligrams and of course A Generous trt Clinic is going to bump up the dose to 200 250 300 milligrams per week but the legitimate trt dosages are 100 to 50 Mig per week that's including the Esther making the dose of testosterone on prescription lower than the dose of
• 23:00 - 23:30 oxandrolone on prescription and with oxy methylone the dosages are way higher they're based on body weights the effective dosages rain between 1 to 2 milligrams per 1 kilo of body weight so that means I could run at 100 kilos give or take 100 milligrams of oxy methylone up to 200 milligrams oxy methylone but there are extreme cases for body weight gain where 5 millgram per 1 kilo of body weight are prescribed so if I wanted to gain any more size that will be 500
• 23:30 - 24:00 millgram oxymetholone per day man I can't wait to run 500 milligrams Anadrol per day my liver is failing just thinking about it I think that covers pretty much everything I wanted to discuss about oxandrolone I think it's highly worth it in a multitude of different contexts whether that's during the off season during a cutting phase a contest prep if you're a woman again you have to respect the dosages because oxandrolone is somewhat metabolism resistant so you get more bang for your buck for each
• 24:00 - 24:30 milligram of oxandrolone that you take and as you escalate the dosages upwards of course the exposure duration is going to be limited I don't think anywhere upwards of 25 milligrams oxandrolone per day is warranted unless your gandon is underdosed or Terin so please do your due diligence researching make sure you get your oxandrolone from a reliable source or ideally pharmaceutical grad and I believe there's only two pharmaceutical grade oandr left unless you get it from a compounding pharmacy
• 24:30 - 25:00 in the United States do your due diligence sourcing and if you do get legitimate oand man it seems to be the best oral steroid you can run for a longer period of time that being said let's move over to stanazol windol before this video gets way too long when is windol worth it in my opinion and everybody seems to agree wistol tablets just like inject wind strol suspension is only worth it
• 25:00 - 25:30 during a cutting phase when you're trying to get lean and your single digit body fat levels already let's say 8% body fat or maybe 9% or you're bordering on 10% body fat in that case wind stroke can be introduced maybe 8 weeks up to 12 weeks depending on the administration route and the dosing protocol leading into your photo shoots or stepping on stage now I will say this it seems that Asians and Arabs respond
• 25:30 - 26:00 better to Winstrol or Winstrol that is than Caucasians and people of African descent and that's purely by anecdotal observation coaching a decent amount of competitors from all kinds of different nationalities and races oral Winstrol tablets do very very well from the competitors perspective in this part of the world and if you're a little bit more towards Europe and America what North or South America
• 26:00 - 26:30 injectable wind strol seems to get the job done a lot better now of course with injectable wind strol you really have to suffer through the post injection pain already making it not worth it but if you're one of those genetic people that seem to respond very very well to oral wind stroll you go with that because then you don't have to suffer from the terrible post- injection pain all you have to worry about is Liver Health and even though wind stroll is 17 Alpha alculated whether that's injectable or the oral version it still prevents
• 26:30 - 27:00 breakdown when it passes through the liver now with the injectable version it's only going to pass the liver once right because it's going through the injectable rout increasing its bioavailability further until it's deactivated by the three Alpha hydroxy stero dehydrogenase enzymes and of course when you take it Orly it passes through the liver twice once on the way into the bloodstream and then another pass before it ends up in skeletal muscle so if you do respond well to oral wind so stay tuned otherwise I would
• 27:00 - 27:30 rather go with injectable windol suspension instead even though it's highly painful unless you really dilute it with um some sort of dilutant in the form of B12 carnitine injectable glutathione or good old sterile water the downside the major downside in both contexts is that wind stroll even though it increases collagen synthesis probably greater than oxandrolone it doesn't improve the filaments which keep collagen together so you see this negative effect in the
• 27:30 - 28:00 connective tissue predominantly where there's a multitude of different collagen types holding everything together wind strol will make the tendons thicker but because the filaments between the colatin types and the whole structure isn't optimal the tendons break easier and of course before the tendons break you already notice that the tendons start to hurts you get this drying out feeling there might be an effect of WIIL even though I can't find any scientific EV to support this that winol also inhibits estrogen
• 28:00 - 28:30 mediated collagen synthesis to a similar extent that mol might inhibit estrogen mediated DNA transcription again I can't find any scientific evidence but I do notice that whether your serum Ester levels are Skyhigh or bottomed out this negative effect that wistol has on the connective tissue this super dry and squeaky feeling that you get in your knees and elbows every time you put them underload and stress training for
• 28:30 - 29:00 hypertrophy this happens regardless of how high your serum Ester levels get so I feel that there's some inhibitory action of winstrol regarding estrogen mediated collagen synthesis in this area and it also seems to happen in skin because Winstrol like no other making it highly worth it whether it's injectable or oral if you respond well to it thinning the skin with wind stroll is a real thing now a lot of people would assume that Winstrol because this is a great cutting drug and it sure is but
• 29:00 - 29:30 wistol itself doesn't result in Fat Loss instead it seems to change the collagen ratio within the skin and the subcutaneous space allowing the skin to retract and again people from Asian or Arabic or Persian or Indian descent people coming from this part of the world they seem to respond quite favorably to Winstrol regarding its skin thinning effects allowing these people to get away with a much
• 29:30 - 30:00 lower dose compared to the Caucasians or people of African descent so you see that that commonly used dosages here in Thailand range from 30 to 50 milligrams oral Winstrol per day and whereas Caucasians often go up to 80 or 100 milligrams oral Winstrol per day even though the body weight might be quite comparable maybe the Caucasians are a little bit heavier because well we generally have have a bigger bone structure compared to the Asians but
• 30:00 - 30:30 that's just generally speaking in most cases for similar body weight levels we would need to dose the oral Winstrol higher making it not worth it probably preferred to go with the injectable Administration routes compared to people coming from this part of the world regardless of its user the skin thinning effects are observed within six weeks assuming that the dose is high enough now again in Asians people of this part
• 30:30 - 31:00 of the world the dose might be 30 to 50 milligrams Orly per day space that over several servings and with Caucasians or people of African descent that might be higher maybe 80 to 100 milligrams per day in which case it's probably better to cut down the dose in half and go with 50 milligrams injectable windol suspension instead six weeks is all it takes the last six weeks of your cutting phase or contest prep subjecting yourself to oral or
• 31:00 - 31:30 injectable wind strol for all of these benefits and look phenomenally freaky because man the skin thing effects are so pronounced especially if you combine that with a cream containing clustal acetate I'll link that video at the end of this one which is also supposedly skin thinning you get such paper thin skin that you have Micro veins everywhere and really guys I'm not joking the term dick skin was inspired by windr use for at least 6 weeks and
• 31:30 - 32:00 well some guys push it a little bit longer up until 12 weeks but again the skin thinning effects are observed in most cases to its maximum potential assuming that you're already single digit body fight levels and if you're skin is not thin yet by the six week Mark you're still fat dude and you need to diet longer you should abstain from the wistol because the longer you take it the more it will compromise your connective tissue health so again I would limit the exposure to maybe eight
• 32:00 - 32:30 weeks in duration at higher dosages and you should only take wistol when you're already sufficiently lean uniformly lean so you can rely on the skin thinning effects not think that windr is some sort of magical fat burner that is going to strip pounds of fat off you you should already be shredded and then you add in the wind strol and then you look like a giant walking [ __ ] with veins everywhere that's fully erect all right I'll leave it there we're now getting way off topic again those just can range
• 32:30 - 33:00 from 20 milligrams 30 milligrams 50 milligrams up to 100 milligrams oral wistol per day only during contest prep or a cutting phase when you're single digits and please don't do an oral windol only cycle or an oral aner only cycle or an oral trinal only cycle well you can do an oral proviron only cycle but only if you dose it very very little 6.25 milligrams once or twice per day but in the case of tyin oxandrolone or
• 33:00 - 33:30 stanazolol you still need that sweet testosterone base anywhere upwards of a trt dose is acceptable so at least you can rely on some physiological amount of testosterone and Ester while you're adding these oral 17 Alpha alkal anabolic androgenic steroids on top for this episode I'll leave it here this video is probably like 40 minutes or something but I think it was insightful let me know if it was insightful let me know which one of these four is your
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